Martin Danoesastro: What are you willing to give up to change the way we work?
Мартин Даноэсастро: От чего вы готовы отказаться, чтобы изменить подход к работе?
BCG’s Martin Danoesastro supports organizations to change their ways of working at scale, enabling them to succeed in an increasingly digital world. Full bio
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a flock of birds work together?
за полётом стаи птиц?
flying in perfect synchrony:
would not be able to do that
не смогли бы делать этого,
to follow one leader.
would simply be too low.
достаточно быстро.
that these birds are relying on
to make autonomous decisions
принимать решения самостоятельно
позволяет им быть независимыми,
makes them fast and flexible.
быстрыми и гибкими.
with any one of us?
I believe to be the most important change
на мой взгляд, изменение,
в современных методах работы.
and more complex,
alignment around purpose,
to make decisions faster.
принимать решения быстрее.
on a digital transformation.
на цифровые технологии.
more intuitive, more relevant.
коммерческое предложение.
have seen a bank from the inside,
видели работу банка изнутри,
what many traditional banks look like.
как устроен классический банк.
to their department,
engineers with engineers, etc.
инженеры к инженерам и так далее.
in PowerPoint parking lots.
на свалку презентаций PowerPoint.
between departments.
из одного отдела в другой.
чтобы довести дело до конца.
that in order to transform,
если они хотят перемен,
their time to market
выхода продукта на рынок,
their ways of working as well.
to go and have a look at companies
посмотреть на работу компаний,
the halls at one of these companies
одной из этих компаний
and a team of bankers.
и коллектив банкиров.
"How is your company organized?"
как устроена компания,
организационной структуры.
and "chapters" and "tribes"
«отряды», «отделения», «кланы»,
that to our own world.
перевести это на свой язык.
are working for you?"
на вас работает?»
were some of the basic principles
которые считали основой
understanding of their model.
of small, autonomous teams.
автономно действующих команд,
and IT engineers in the same team
и разработчики продуктов, и IT-инженеры,
and test ideas with customers
и тестируют проекты с клиентами
between departments.
поручения между отделами.
right there in the team.
все необходимые специалисты.
we had a session
to apply some of these ideas to a bank.
некоторые идеи в работе банка.
a guy who had not said a word all day,
который до этого всё время молчал,
but we knew he was right.
но поняли, что он прав.
embracing the new;
принятия чего-то нового,
on some of the old as well.
all over the world
has their own skeptics
going to work for them.
the legacy IT like we do,"
in our industry."
этого не допустит регламент».
for the other companies
blew up the old silos
поменяли взаимодействие
product, channels and IT.
каналами сбыта и IT.
into 350 multidisciplinary teams.
в 350 многопрофильных команд.
sitting just with product people
were now members of the same team.
responsible for account opening
которая отвечает за открытие счёта
of that new organization,
эта новая организация,
for the very first time,
пожали друг другу руки
sitting two minutes away from each other
ходьбы друг от друга,
and status reports for the last 10 years.
и отчётов последние 10 лет.
was always chasing for answers."
от которого ответа не дождёшься».
together every day.
he can just raise it
он может сразу
who is sitting right next to him.
который сидит рядом.
with customers immediately --
идею с клиентами.
в PowerPoint, бумажной волокиты.
requires multidisciplinary teams.
нужны многопрофильные команды.
up and down the organization,
двигались вверх-вниз по организации,
and expertise for that decision
необходимые специалисты собрались
who are working in different buildings,
людей, которые сейчас работают
different countries today?
или даже странах?
in better videoconferencing?
в развитие видеоконференций?
in the way we do things
of management matrix.
какая-то система управления.
and process and procedure --
процессах, порядке
difficult thing to change
flexible, creative, like a mini-start-up,
гибкими и творческими, как мини-стартапы,
все решения независимо.
commanding their people what to do,
руководителей, отдающих приказы:
needs to become a leader,
должен сам стать руководителем,
to take initiative.
running in different directions,
в разных направлениях,
certainly lead to chaos.
at the same time,
и независимость одновременно,
on something old as well.
that everyone in the organization
что все сотрудники компании
the overall purpose -- the why --
and trust their teams
и доверить своим командам
on how to get there.
open and transparent communication.
открытое и прозрачное общение.
that information is a source of power?
they're giving up that source of power.
если делятся информацией.
openly and transparently as well.
общаться открыто и прозрачно.
typically work in short sprints,
забеги на короткие дистанции.
they organize a demo session
они собираются вместе
of what they've done, transparently.
can be uncomfortable for people,
некомфортной для людей.
no place to hide anymore.
is transparent for everyone.
is not so obvious, either.
a master of milestone-tracking.
мастером в контроле этапов работы.
как продвигаются дела,
to attend one of their sessions.
a master of milestone-tracking.
контроля этапов работы.
over time and over budget, anyway.
не хватало времени или бюджета.
much earlier if needed."
тоже надо измениться.
need to change as well.
and the PowerPoint,
передачи поручений и PowerPoint,
руководителях меньше.
for middle managers.
мыслители и исполнители.
this idea of thinkers and doers.
чтобы управлять другими,
managing other people,
тренером и игроком одновременно.
to become player-coaches.
что давали людям поручения.
other people what to do,
делать что-то самому.
to do things yourself again.
new product features a few times per year.
каждые несколько недель,
and the red tape,
и бумажной бюрократии
becomes more efficient.
одной из таких компаний,
of these companies today,
огромного стартапа.
the halls of a very large start-up.
they cannot claim victory yet.
пока не могут провозгласить победу.
to respond to change.
реагировать на изменения.
and more complex,
перезагрузка методов работы.
is not in structure
не в изменении структуры,
senior executives taking charge.
сами брались за дело.
in the organization
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Martin Danoesastro - Transformation expertBCG’s Martin Danoesastro supports organizations to change their ways of working at scale, enabling them to succeed in an increasingly digital world.
Why you should listen
Martin Danoesastro supports organizations all over the world to come to a better way of working -- a way that creates alignment around purpose, takes out bureaucracy and empowers people to make decisions faster. He helps large, traditional organizations learn from digital innovators and replace their old departmental silos with organizations built around small, empowered, persistent, multi-disciplinary teams.
Danoesastro is a senior partner and managing director of The Boston Consulting Group, based in the firm's Amsterdam office. He leads DigitalBCG in Western Europe, Africa and South America. He holds an MBA from Kellogg School of Management and an MSc in Applied Physics from Delft University of Technology.
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