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Martine Rothblatt: My daughter, my wife, our robot, and the quest for immortality
Martine Rothblattová: Moja dcéra, moja manželka, náš robot a hľadanie nesmrteľnosti
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Zakladateľka satelitného rádia Sírius XM, Martine Rothblattová, teraz vedie farmaceutickú spoločnosť, ktorá vyrába lieky zachraňujúce životy pacientov so vzácnymi chorobami (vrátane lieku, ktorý zachránil život jej vlastnej dcéry). Popri tom pracuje na zachovaní vedomia ženy, ktorú miluje, v digitálnom súbore… a v robotovi - spoločníkovi. V rozhovore s Chrisom Andersonom z TEDu sa s nami Rothblattová podelí o pôsobivý príbeh lásky, identity, tvorivosti a bezhraničných možností.
Martine Rothblatt - Transhumanist
Whether she’s inventing satellite radio, developing life-saving drugs or digitizing the human mind, Martine Rothblatt has a knack for turning visionary ideas into commonplace technology. Full bio
Whether she’s inventing satellite radio, developing life-saving drugs or digitizing the human mind, Martine Rothblatt has a knack for turning visionary ideas into commonplace technology. Full bio
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00:12
Chris Anderson: So I guess
what we're going to do is
what we're going to do is
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Chris Anderson: Predpokladám,
00:14
we're going to talk about your life,
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že sa budeme rozprávať o vašom živote,
00:17
and using some pictures
that you shared with me.
that you shared with me.
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a využijeme niektoré fotografie,
ktoré ste mi ukázali.
ktoré ste mi ukázali.
00:20
And I think we should start
right here with this one.
right here with this one.
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Myslím, že by sme mali začať touto.
00:23
Okay, now who is this?
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Kto je to?
00:26
Martine Rothblatt: This is me
with our oldest son Eli.
with our oldest son Eli.
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Martine Rothblattová: To som ja
s naším najstarším synom Elim.
s naším najstarším synom Elim.
00:31
He was about age five.
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Mal asi päť rokov.
00:33
This is taken in Nigeria
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Táto fotka vznikla v Nigérii
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right after having taken
the Washington, D.C. bar exam.
the Washington, D.C. bar exam.
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hneď po mojich sudcovských skúškach
vo Washingtone D.C.
vo Washingtone D.C.
00:39
CA: Okay. But this doesn't
really look like a Martine.
really look like a Martine.
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CA: Dobre. Tento muž však
nevyzerá celkom ako Martine.
nevyzerá celkom ako Martine.
00:44
MR: Right. That was myself as a male,
the way I was brought up.
the way I was brought up.
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MR: To je pravda. Som to ja ako muž,
tak, ako som bola vychovaná,
tak, ako som bola vychovaná,
00:51
Before I transitioned from male
to female and Martin to Martine.
to female and Martin to Martine.
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predtým, ako som sa zmenila z muža
na ženu a z Martina na Martine.
na ženu a z Martina na Martine.
00:55
CA: You were brought up Martin Rothblatt.
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CA: Vychovali vás ako Martina Rothblatta.
00:57
MR: Correct.
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MR: Správne.
00:58
CA: And about a year after this picture,
you married a beautiful woman.
you married a beautiful woman.
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CA: A asi rok po tejto fotografii
ste si vzali krásnu ženu.
ste si vzali krásnu ženu.
01:03
Was this love at first sight?
What happened there?
What happened there?
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Bola to láska na prvý pohľad?
Ako sa to stalo?
Ako sa to stalo?
01:05
MR: It was love at the first sight.
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MR: Bola to láska na prvý pohľad.
01:07
I saw Bina at a discotheque
in Los Angeles,
in Los Angeles,
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Binu som spoznala na jednej
diskotéke v Los Angeles
diskotéke v Los Angeles
01:12
and we later began living together,
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a neskôr sme spolu začali bývať,
01:15
but the moment I saw her,
I saw just an aura of energy around her.
I saw just an aura of energy around her.
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ale hneď ako som ju zbadala,
som si okolo nej všimla auru energie.
som si okolo nej všimla auru energie.
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I asked her to dance.
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Pozvala som ju na parket.
01:21
She said she saw an aura
of energy around me.
of energy around me.
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Povedala mi, že aj ona
okolo mňa videla auru energie.
okolo mňa videla auru energie.
01:24
I was a single male parent.
She was a single female parent.
She was a single female parent.
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Bola som slobodný otec.
Ona bola slobodná matka.
Ona bola slobodná matka.
01:27
We showed each other
our kids' pictures,
our kids' pictures,
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Ukázali sme si fotky svojich detí
01:30
and we've been happily married
for a third of a century now.
for a third of a century now.
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a už tretinu storočia
sme šťastní manželia.
sme šťastní manželia.
01:34
(Applause)
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(potlesk)
01:38
CA: And at the time, you were
kind of this hotshot entrepreneur,
kind of this hotshot entrepreneur,
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CA: V tom čase sa vám
v biznise veľmi darilo,
v biznise veľmi darilo,
01:41
working with satellites.
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venovali ste sa satelitom.
01:43
I think you had two successful companies,
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Myslím, že ste mali
dve úspešné spoločnosti.
dve úspešné spoločnosti.
01:45
and then you started
addressing this problem
addressing this problem
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Začali ste sa venovať otázke,
01:47
of how could you use satellites
to revolutionize radio.
to revolutionize radio.
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ako dosiahnuť revolúciu rádia
prostredníctvom satelitu.
prostredníctvom satelitu.
01:52
Tell us about that.
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Porozprávajte nám o tom.
01:53
MR: Right. I always
loved space technology,
loved space technology,
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MR: Vždy som milovala vesmírnu techniku
01:55
and satellites, to me, are sort of
like the canoes that our ancestors
like the canoes that our ancestors
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a satelity sú pre mňa niečo
ako kanoe, ktoré naši predkovia
ako kanoe, ktoré naši predkovia
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first pushed out into the water.
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ako prvé vtlačili do vody.
02:02
So it was exciting for me
to be part of the navigation
to be part of the navigation
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Takže som si užívala
byť súčasťou objavnej plavby
byť súčasťou objavnej plavby
02:05
of the oceans of the sky,
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po oceánoch oblohy
02:07
and as I developed different types
of satellite communication systems,
of satellite communication systems,
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a keď som vyvíjala rôzne druhy
satelitných komunikačných systémov,
satelitných komunikačných systémov,
02:12
the main thing I did was to launch
bigger and more powerful satellites,
bigger and more powerful satellites,
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moja hlavná náplň bola vypúšťať
stále väčšie a silnejšie satelity,
stále väčšie a silnejšie satelity,
02:17
the consequence of which
was that the receiving antennas
was that the receiving antennas
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vďaka čomu prijímacie antény
02:21
could be smaller and smaller,
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mohli byť stále menšie a menšie,
02:23
and after going through
direct television broadcasting,
direct television broadcasting,
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a po skúsenostiach s priamym
televíznym vysielaním
televíznym vysielaním
02:27
I had the idea that if we could make
a more powerful satellite,
a more powerful satellite,
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som mala nápad, že ak by sme
vyrobili silnejší satelit,
vyrobili silnejší satelit,
02:30
the receiving dish could be so small
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prijímač by mohol byť taký malý,
02:33
that it would just be a section
of a parabolic dish,
of a parabolic dish,
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že by bol iba ako časť
parabolickej antény,
parabolickej antény,
02:36
a flat little plate embedded
into the roof of an automobile,
into the roof of an automobile,
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malý tenký plátok zabudovaný
v streche auta,
v streche auta,
02:40
and it would be possible to have
nationwide satellite radio,
nationwide satellite radio,
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a bolo by možné mať
celoštátne satelitné rádio.
celoštátne satelitné rádio.
02:44
and that's Sirius XM today.
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A práve tým je dnes Sirius XM.
02:46
CA: Wow. So who here has used Sirius?
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CA: Fíha. Kto z vás tu počúva Sirius?
02:48
(Applause)
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(potlesk)
02:51
MR: Thank you for
your monthly subscriptions.
your monthly subscriptions.
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MR: Ďakujem vám za mesačný poplatok.
02:53
(Laughter)
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(smiech)
02:56
CA: So that succeeded despite
all predictions at the time.
all predictions at the time.
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CA: Takže to bol úspech napriek
všetkým pôvodným predpovediam.
všetkým pôvodným predpovediam.
03:00
It was a huge commercial success,
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Bol to obrovský obchodný úspech,
03:02
but soon after this, in the early 1990s,
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ale krátko nato, začiatkom
deväťdesiatych rokov,
deväťdesiatych rokov,
03:07
there was this big transition in your life
and you became Martine.
and you became Martine.
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sa odohrala vo vašom živote veľká zmena
a stala sa z vás Martine.
a stala sa z vás Martine.
03:11
MR: Correct.
CA: So tell me, how did that happen?
CA: So tell me, how did that happen?
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MR: Správne.
CA: Povedzte mi, ako sa to stalo?
CA: Povedzte mi, ako sa to stalo?
03:17
MR: It happened in consultation with Bina
and our four beautiful children,
and our four beautiful children,
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MR: Stalo sa to po rozhovore s Binou
a našimi štyrmi krásnymi deťmi,
a našimi štyrmi krásnymi deťmi,
03:23
and I discussed with each of them
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každému z nich som vysvetlila,
03:28
that I felt my soul was always female,
and as a woman,
and as a woman,
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ako som cítila,
že moja duša bola vždy ženská,
že moja duša bola vždy ženská,
03:34
but I was afraid people would
laugh at me if I expressed it,
laugh at me if I expressed it,
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ale bála som sa, že ľudia sa zo mňa
budú smiať, ak ju prejavím,
budú smiať, ak ju prejavím,
03:39
so I always kept it bottled up
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a tak som ju vždy schovávala
03:41
and just showed my male side.
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a ukazovala som len svoju mužskú stránku.
03:44
And each of them
had a different take on this.
had a different take on this.
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Každé dieťa na to malo odlišný pohľad.
03:48
Bina said, "I love your soul,
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Bina povedala: „Milujem tvoju dušu
03:52
and whether the outside
is Martin and Martine,
is Martin and Martine,
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a či už budeš navonok
Martin alebo Martine,
Martin alebo Martine,
03:56
it doesn't it matter to me,
I love your soul."
I love your soul."
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je mi to jedno, ja milujem tvoju dušu.“
03:58
My son said, "If you become a woman,
will you still be my father?"
will you still be my father?"
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Môj syn povedal: „Ak sa staneš ženou,
budeš stále mojím otcom?“
budeš stále mojím otcom?“
04:06
And I said, "Yes,
I'll always be your father,"
I'll always be your father,"
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A ja som odpovedal: „Áno,
vždy budem tvojím otcom,“
vždy budem tvojím otcom,“
04:09
and I'm still his father today.
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a aj dnes som stále jeho otcom.
04:12
My youngest daughter did an absolutely
brilliant five-year-old thing.
brilliant five-year-old thing.
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Moja najmladšia dcéra urobila
na päťročné dieťa niečo úžasné.
na päťročné dieťa niečo úžasné.
04:17
She told people, "I love my dad
and she loves me."
and she loves me."
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Ľuďom hovorila: „Ľúbim
môjho ocka a on ľúbi mňa.“
môjho ocka a on ľúbi mňa.“
04:23
So she had no problem
with a gender blending whatsoever.
with a gender blending whatsoever.
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Nemala teda so mojou zmenou
pohlavia žiadny problém.
pohlavia žiadny problém.
04:28
CA: And a couple years after this,
you published this book:
you published this book:
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CA: Niekoľko rokov po tom
ste vydali knihu
ste vydali knihu
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"The Apartheid of Sex."
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Apartheid pohlaví.
04:33
What was your thesis in this book?
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Aká je hlavná myšlienka tejto knihy?
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MR: My thesis in this book is that there
are seven billion people in the world,
are seven billion people in the world,
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MR: Hlavná myšlienka tejto knihy je,
že na svete je 7 miliárd ľudí,
že na svete je 7 miliárd ľudí,
04:39
and actually, seven billion unique ways
to express one's gender.
to express one's gender.
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a teda 7 miliárd jedinečných
spôsobov, ako vyjadriť svoje pohlavie.
spôsobov, ako vyjadriť svoje pohlavie.
04:45
And while people may have
the genitals of a male or a female,
the genitals of a male or a female,
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Hoci ľudia môžu mať mužské
alebo ženské genitálie,
alebo ženské genitálie,
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the genitals don't determine your gender
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genitálie neurčujú vaše pohlavie
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or even really your sexual identity.
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a dokonca ani vašu pohlavnú identitu.
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That's just a matter of anatomy
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Je to len otázka anatómie
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and reproductive tracts,
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a rozmnožovacej sústavy
05:00
and people could choose
whatever gender they want
whatever gender they want
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a ľudia by si mohli vybrať
pohlavie, aké chcú,
pohlavie, aké chcú,
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if they weren't forced by society
into categories of either male or female
into categories of either male or female
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ak by neboli spoločnosťou tlačení
byť mužom alebo ženou podobne,
byť mužom alebo ženou podobne,
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the way South Africa used to force people
into categories of black or white.
into categories of black or white.
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ako sa v Južnej Afrike zvyklo
ľudí rozdeľovať na čiernych a bielych.
ľudí rozdeľovať na čiernych a bielych.
05:13
We know from anthropological science
that race is fiction,
that race is fiction,
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Z antropológie vieme, že rasy sú fikcia,
05:17
even though racism is very, very real,
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aj keď existuje rasizmus,
05:20
and we now know from cultural studies
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a vďaka kulturológii teraz vieme aj to,
05:23
that separate male or female genders
is a constructed fiction.
is a constructed fiction.
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že oddelené mužské či ženské pohlavie
je len vykonštruovaný výmysel.
je len vykonštruovaný výmysel.
05:27
The reality is a gender fluidity
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Pohlavia neoddeľuje žiadna čiara,
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that crosses the entire continuum
from male to female.
from male to female.
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všetci v sebe máme celú škálu
mužských a ženských vlastností.
mužských a ženských vlastností.
05:34
CA: You yourself don't always
feel 100 percent female.
feel 100 percent female.
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CA: Ani vy sama sa vždy necítite
ako stopercentná žena.
ako stopercentná žena.
05:37
MR: Correct. I would say in some ways
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MR: Správne. Povedala by som,
že v istom zmysle
že v istom zmysle
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I change my gender about as often
as I change my hairstyle.
as I change my hairstyle.
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mením svoje pohlavie asi
tak často ako účes.
tak často ako účes.
05:43
CA: (Laughs) Okay, now, this is
your gorgeous daughter, Jenesis.
your gorgeous daughter, Jenesis.
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CA: (smiech) Dobre, toto je
vaša nádherná dcéra, Jenesis.
vaša nádherná dcéra, Jenesis.
05:51
And I guess she was about this age
when something pretty terrible happened.
when something pretty terrible happened.
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Myslím, že asi v tom veku
sa jej stalo niečo dosť hrozné.
sa jej stalo niečo dosť hrozné.
05:55
MR: Yes, she was finding herself
unable to walk up the stairs
unable to walk up the stairs
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MR: Áno, nedokázala vyjsť po schodoch
06:00
in our house to her bedroom,
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domu do svojej izby
06:02
and after several months of doctors,
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a po niekoľkých mesiacoch vyšetrení
06:04
she was diagnosed to have a rare,
almost invariably fatal disease
almost invariably fatal disease
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jej diagnostikovali vzácnu,
takmer určite smrteľnú chorobu
takmer určite smrteľnú chorobu
06:09
called pulmonary arterial hypertension.
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nazývanú pľúcna artériová hypertenzia.
06:13
CA: So how did you respond to that?
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CA: Ako ste na to zareagovali?
06:15
MR: Well, we first tried to get her
to the best doctors we could.
to the best doctors we could.
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MR: Najprv sme sa jej pokúsili
nájsť tých najlepších lekárov.
nájsť tých najlepších lekárov.
06:19
We ended up at Children's National
Medical Center in Washington, D.C.
Medical Center in Washington, D.C.
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Skončili sme v Národnom detskom
lekárskom centre vo Washingtone D.C.
lekárskom centre vo Washingtone D.C.
06:23
The head of pediatric cardiology
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Primár detskej kardiológie nám povedal,
06:25
told us that he was going to refer her
to get a lung transplant,
to get a lung transplant,
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že sa pokúsi získať nám
pre ňu transplantát pľúc,
pre ňu transplantát pľúc,
06:30
but not to hold out any hope,
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ale nič nám nesľubuje,
06:31
because there are
very few lungs available,
very few lungs available,
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lebo takých transplantátov je veľmi málo,
06:34
especially for children.
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a to najmä detských.
06:35
He said that all people
with this illness died,
with this illness died,
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Povedal, že všetci pacienti
s touto chorobou zomreli
s touto chorobou zomreli
06:40
and if any of you have seen
the film "Lorenzo's Oil,"
the film "Lorenzo's Oil,"
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a ak niekto z vás videl
film Liek pre Lorenza,
film Liek pre Lorenza,
06:44
there's a scene when the protagonist
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je tam scéna, v ktorej sa hlavný hrdina
06:46
kind of rolls down the stairway
crying and bemoaning the fate of his son,
crying and bemoaning the fate of his son,
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akoby skotúľa dolu schodmi
s plačom nad osudom svojho syna,
s plačom nad osudom svojho syna,
06:53
and that's exactly
how we felt about Jenesis.
how we felt about Jenesis.
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presne tak sme sa cítili pre Jenesis.
06:56
CA: But you didn't accept that
as the limit of what you could do.
as the limit of what you could do.
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CA: Ale nezmierili ste sa s tým
a nenechali to tak.
a nenechali to tak.
07:00
You started trying to research
and see if you could find a cure somehow.
and see if you could find a cure somehow.
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Začali ste skúmať, či by ste
vy nejako nemohli objaviť liek.
vy nejako nemohli objaviť liek.
07:04
MR: Correct. She was in the intensive
care ward for weeks at a time,
care ward for weeks at a time,
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MR: Áno. Často bývala celé týždne
na jednotke intenzívnej starostlivosti
na jednotke intenzívnej starostlivosti
07:08
and Bina and I would tag team
to stay at the hospital
to stay at the hospital
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a Bina a ja sme sa striedali,
aby pri nej niekto stále bol,
aby pri nej niekto stále bol,
07:12
while the other watched
the rest of the kids,
the rest of the kids,
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kým sa ten druhý staral o ostatné deti,
07:15
and when I was in the hospital
and she was sleeping,
and she was sleeping,
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a keď som bola v nemocnici ja a ona spala,
chodievala som do nemocničnej knižnice.
07:17
I went to the hospital library.
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07:19
I read every article that I could find
on pulmonary hypertension.
on pulmonary hypertension.
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Prečítala som každý článok o pľúcnej
hypertenzii, ktorý som našla.
hypertenzii, ktorý som našla.
07:24
I had not taken any biology,
even in college,
even in college,
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Nikdy som nemala biológiu,
ani na vysokej škole,
ani na vysokej škole,
07:27
so I had to go from a biology textbook
to a college-level textbook
to a college-level textbook
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takže som si musela naštudovať
všetky učebnice biológie,
všetky učebnice biológie,
07:33
and then medical textbook
and the journal articles, back and forth,
and the journal articles, back and forth,
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potom učebnice medicíny
a potom vedecké časopisy
a potom vedecké časopisy
07:37
and eventually I knew enough to think
that it might be possible
that it might be possible
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až kým som nevedela dosť na to,
aby som si myslela,
aby som si myslela,
07:41
that somebody could find a cure.
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že sa dá objaviť liek.
07:43
So we started a nonprofit foundation.
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Tak sme založili neziskovú organizáciu.
07:47
I wrote a description
asking people to submit grants
asking people to submit grants
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Napísala som článok, v ktorom
som žiadala ľudí o granty,
som žiadala ľudí o granty,
07:51
and we would pay for medical research.
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a my sme financovali lekársky výskum.
07:54
I became an expert on the condition --
doctors said to me, Martine,
doctors said to me, Martine,
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Stala som sa expertkou na túto chorobu,
doktori mi povedali: Martine,
doktori mi povedali: Martine,
07:57
we really appreciate all the funding
you've provided us,
you've provided us,
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ceníme si všetky prostriedky,
ktoré ste nám poskytli,
ktoré ste nám poskytli,
08:01
but we are not going to be able
to find a cure in time
to find a cure in time
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ale nebudeme schopní
nájsť liek dostatočne skoro na to,
nájsť liek dostatočne skoro na to,
08:05
to save your daughter.
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aby sme zachránili vašu dcéru.
08:07
However, there is a medicine
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Existuje však liek,
08:09
that was developed at the
Burroughs Wellcome Company
Burroughs Wellcome Company
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ktorý vyvinula spoločnosť
Burroughs Wellcome
Burroughs Wellcome
08:14
that could halt the progression
of the disease,
of the disease,
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a mohol by zastaviť pokrok choroby,
08:17
but Burroughs Wellcome has just
been acquired by Glaxo Wellcome.
been acquired by Glaxo Wellcome.
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ale Burroughs Wellcome práve
kúpila spoločnosť Glaxo Wellcome.
kúpila spoločnosť Glaxo Wellcome.
08:22
They made a decision not to develop
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Rozhodli sa nevyvíjať
08:24
any medicines for rare
and orphan diseases,
and orphan diseases,
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žiadne lieky na vzácne choroby,
08:28
and maybe you could use your expertise
in satellite communications
in satellite communications
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no možno by ste mohli na vývin
lieku na pľúcnu hypertenziu
lieku na pľúcnu hypertenziu
08:32
to develop this cure
for pulmonary hypertension.
for pulmonary hypertension.
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využiť vaše znalosti
zo satelitnej komunikácie.
zo satelitnej komunikácie.
08:37
CA: So how on earth did you get
access to this drug?
access to this drug?
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CA: Ako ste teda liek získali?
08:40
MR: I went to Glaxo Wellcome
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MR: Prišla som do Glaxo Wellcome a po tom,
08:42
and after three times being rejected
and having the door slammed in my face
and having the door slammed in my face
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čo ma trikrát odmietli
a zabuchli mi dvere pred nosom,
a zabuchli mi dvere pred nosom,
08:47
because they weren't going
to out-license the drug
to out-license the drug
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pretože neplánovali dať licenciu na liek
08:51
to a satellite communications expert,
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expertovi na satelitné komunikácie,
08:54
they weren't going to send the drug
out to anybody at all,
out to anybody at all,
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neplánovali poskytnúť
ten liek vôbec nikomu,
ten liek vôbec nikomu,
09:00
and they thought
I didn't have the expertise,
I didn't have the expertise,
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a nemysleli si, že na to
mám odborné znalosti,
mám odborné znalosti,
09:03
finally I was able to persuade
a small team of people to work with me
a small team of people to work with me
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napokon sa mi ale podarilo presvedčiť
skupinku ľudí, aby so mnou spolupracovali,
skupinku ľudí, aby so mnou spolupracovali,
09:10
and develop enough credibility.
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a získať dostatočnú dôveru spoločnosti.
09:12
I wore down their resistance,
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Postupne som oslabila ich odpor,
09:14
and they had no hope this drug
would even work, by the way,
would even work, by the way,
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no, mimochodom, ani neverili,
že tento liek bude fungovať,
že tento liek bude fungovať,
09:18
and they tried to tell me,
"You're just wasting your time.
"You're just wasting your time.
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a povedali mi: „Iba márnite čas.
09:20
We're sorry about your daughter."
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Je nám vašej dcéry ľúto.“
09:22
But finally, for 25,000 dollars
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Ale nakoniec, za 25 000 dolárov
09:25
and agreement to pay 10 percent
of any revenues we might ever get,
of any revenues we might ever get,
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a prísľub zaplatiť im 10 %
z každého budúceho zisku,
z každého budúceho zisku,
09:29
they agreed to give me
worldwide rights to this drug.
worldwide rights to this drug.
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súhlasili a dali mi
na ten liek celosvetovú licenciu.
na ten liek celosvetovú licenciu.
09:34
CA: And so you put this drug on the market
in a really brilliant way,
in a really brilliant way,
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CA: A vy ste tento liek uviedli
na trh naozaj úžasným spôsobom,
na trh naozaj úžasným spôsobom,
09:40
by basically charging what it would take
to make the economics work.
to make the economics work.
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tak, že ste si v podstate účtovali správnu
sumu na to, aby to ekonomicky fungovalo.
sumu na to, aby to ekonomicky fungovalo.
09:45
MR: Oh yes, Chris, but this really wasn't
a drug that I ended up --
a drug that I ended up --
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MR: Áno, ale nebol to ani zďaleka
liek, aký som potrebovala,
liek, aký som potrebovala,
09:49
after I wrote the check for 25,000,
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keď som vypísala šek na tých 25-tisíc
09:52
and I said, "Okay, where's
the medicine for Jenesis?"
the medicine for Jenesis?"
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a spýtala sa:
„Kde je ten liek pre Jenesis?“
„Kde je ten liek pre Jenesis?“
09:54
they said, "Oh, Martine,
there's no medicine for Jenesis.
there's no medicine for Jenesis.
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povedali mi: „Martine,
nemáme pre Jenesis žiadny liek.
nemáme pre Jenesis žiadny liek.
09:58
This is just something we tried in rats."
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Je to len liek testovaný na potkanoch.“
10:00
And they gave me, like,
a little plastic Ziploc bag
a little plastic Ziploc bag
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Dali mi plastové vrecúško
10:04
of a small amount of powder.
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s troškou prášku.
10:05
They said, "Don't give it to any human,"
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Povedali mi: „Nedávajte
to žiadnemu človeku,“
to žiadnemu človeku,“
10:08
and they gave me a piece of paper
which said it was a patent,
which said it was a patent,
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dali mi papier, ktorý informoval,
že ide o patent,
že ide o patent,
10:12
and from that, we had to figure out
a way to make this medicine.
a way to make this medicine.
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a my sme museli zistiť, ako vyrobiť liek.
10:16
A hundred chemists in the U.S.
at the top universities
at the top universities
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Stovka chemikov z najlepších univerzít
v Spojených štátoch sa zhodla na tom,
v Spojených štátoch sa zhodla na tom,
10:19
all swore that little patent
could never be turned into a medicine.
could never be turned into a medicine.
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že z toho patentu liek nikdy nebude.
10:23
If it was turned into a medicine,
it could never be delivered
it could never be delivered
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Ak by sa podarilo vyrobiť liek,
nikdy by nemohol byť distribuovaný,
nikdy by nemohol byť distribuovaný,
10:27
because it had a half-life
of only 45 minutes.
of only 45 minutes.
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pretože jeho polčas rozpadu
bol iba 45 minút.
bol iba 45 minút.
10:30
CA: And yet, a year or two later,
you were there with a medicine
you were there with a medicine
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CA: No aj tak ste o rok či dva mali liek,
10:34
that worked for Jenesis.
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ktorý u Jenesis zafungoval.
10:38
MR: Chris, the astonishing thing
is that this absolutely worthless
is that this absolutely worthless
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MR: Chris, najúžasnejšie je,
že táto absolútne bezcenná trocha prášku,
že táto absolútne bezcenná trocha prášku,
10:44
piece of powder
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10:45
that had the sparkle of a promise
of hope for Jenesis
of hope for Jenesis
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ktorá priniesla pre Jenesis iskru nádeje,
10:49
is not only keeping Jenesis
and other people alive today,
and other people alive today,
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dnes nielen udržiava Jenesis
a ďalších ľudí pri živote,
a ďalších ľudí pri živote,
10:54
but produces almost a billion
and a half dollars a year in revenue.
and a half dollars a year in revenue.
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ale vytvára zisk takmer
1,5 miliardy dolárov ročne.
1,5 miliardy dolárov ročne.
10:59
(Applause)
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11:02
CA: So here you go.
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CA: Tak vidíte.
11:05
So you took this company public, right?
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Takže ste začali ako nezisková organizácia
11:09
And made an absolute fortune.
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a zarobili majetok.
11:11
And how much have you paid Glaxo,
by the way, after that 25,000?
by the way, after that 25,000?
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Mimochodom, koľko ste zaplatili
Glaxu okrem tých 25 000?
Glaxu okrem tých 25 000?
11:15
MR: Yeah, well, every year we pay them
10 percent of 1.5 billion,
10 percent of 1.5 billion,
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MR: Každý rok im platíme
10 % z 1,5 miliardy,
10 % z 1,5 miliardy,
11:19
150 million dollars,
last year 100 million dollars.
last year 100 million dollars.
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150 miliónov dolárov,
minulý rok 100 miliónov.
minulý rok 100 miliónov.
11:23
It's the best return on investment
they ever received. (Laughter)
they ever received. (Laughter)
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Je to investícia s najlepšou
návratnosťou, akú kedy mali. (smiech)
návratnosťou, akú kedy mali. (smiech)
11:26
CA: And the best news of all, I guess,
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CA: A najlepšia správa, myslím si,
11:28
is this.
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je toto.
11:30
MR: Yes. Jenesis is an absolutely
brilliant young lady.
brilliant young lady.
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MR: Áno. Jenesis je úplne
úžasná mladá slečna.
úžasná mladá slečna.
11:34
She's alive, healthy today at 30.
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Dnes je živá a zdravá a má 30 rokov.
11:36
You see me, Bina and Jenesis there.
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Tu vidíte mňa, Binu a Jenesis.
11:39
The most amazing thing about Jenesis
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To najúžasnejšie na Genesis je,
11:42
is that while she could do
anything with her life,
anything with her life,
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že mohla urobiť čokoľvek,
11:45
and believe me, if you grew up
your whole life with people
your whole life with people
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a verte mi, ak by ste
celý život žili s tým,
celý život žili s tým,
11:48
in your face saying
that you've got a fatal disease,
that you've got a fatal disease,
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že vám ľudia do tváre vravia,
že máte nevyliečiteľnú chorobu,
že máte nevyliečiteľnú chorobu,
11:51
I would probably run to Tahiti and just
not want to run into anybody again.
not want to run into anybody again.
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ja by som bola asi ušla na Tahiti a už
nikdy nikoho nechcela vidieť.
nikdy nikoho nechcela vidieť.
11:56
But instead she chooses to work
in United Therapeutics.
in United Therapeutics.
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Namiesto toho sa však rozhodla
pracovať v United Therapeutics.
pracovať v United Therapeutics.
11:59
She says she wants to do all she can
to help other people
to help other people
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Hovorí, že chce spraviť všetko preto,
aby iným chorým
aby iným chorým
12:03
with orphan diseases get medicines,
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na vzácne choroby pomohla objaviť lieky,
12:05
and today, she's our project leader
for all telepresence activities,
for all telepresence activities,
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a dnes je našou projektovou riaditeľkou
pre všetky teleasistenčné aktivity,
pre všetky teleasistenčné aktivity,
12:10
where she helps digitally unite
the entire company to work together
the entire company to work together
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v ktorých pomáha digitálne
spájať celú spoločnosť,
spájať celú spoločnosť,
12:13
to find cures for pulmonary hypertension.
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aby sme našli lieky na pľúcnu hypertenziu.
12:16
CA: But not everyone who has this disease
has been so fortunate.
has been so fortunate.
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CA: Ale nie každý s touto
chorobou má také šťastie.
chorobou má také šťastie.
12:19
There are still many people dying,
and you are tackling that too. How?
and you are tackling that too. How?
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Stále mnoho ľudí zomiera
a vy bojujete aj proti tomu. Ako?
a vy bojujete aj proti tomu. Ako?
12:24
MR: Exactly, Chris. There's some 3,000
people a year in the United States alone,
people a year in the United States alone,
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MR: Presne tak, Chris. Každý rok len
v Spojených štátoch zomrie na túto chorobu
v Spojených štátoch zomrie na túto chorobu
12:28
perhaps 10 times that number worldwide,
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asi 3000 ľudí, celosvetovo
asi desaťkrát toľko,
asi desaťkrát toľko,
12:31
who continue to die of this illness
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12:33
because the medicines
slow down the progression
slow down the progression
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pretože lieky spomaľujú postup choroby,
12:36
but they don't halt it.
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ale nezastavia ju.
12:38
The only cure for pulmonary hypertension,
pulmonary fibrosis,
pulmonary fibrosis,
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Jediným liekom na pľúcnu
hypertenziu, pľúcnu fibrózu,
hypertenziu, pľúcnu fibrózu,
12:42
cystic fibrosis, emphysema,
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cystickú fibrózu, emfyzém,
12:45
COPD, what Leonard Nimoy just died of,
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CHOPCH, na ktorú práve
zomrel Leonard Nimoy,
zomrel Leonard Nimoy,
12:48
is a lung transplant,
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je pľúcny transplantát,
12:50
but sadly, there are only enough
available lungs for 2,000 people
available lungs for 2,000 people
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no bohužiaľ máme dosť
pľúc na transplantáciu
pľúc na transplantáciu
12:55
in the U.S. a year
to get a lung transplant,
to get a lung transplant,
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v USA iba pre 2000 ľudí ročne,
12:58
whereas nearly a half
million people a year
million people a year
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zatiaľ čo takmer pol milióna ľudí ročne
13:01
die of end-stage lung failure.
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zomrie na konečnú fázu zlyhania pľúc.
13:04
CA: So how can you address that?
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CA: Ako sa to dá vyriešiť?
13:06
MR: So I conceptualize the possibility
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MR: Predpokladám,
13:09
that just like we keep cars and planes
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že tak, ako udržujeme autá, lietadlá
13:12
and buildings going forever
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a budovy navždy pri živote
13:15
with an unlimited supply
of building parts and machine parts,
of building parts and machine parts,
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pomocou neobmedzeného zdroja súčiastok,
13:19
why can't we create an unlimited supply
of transplantable organs
of transplantable organs
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by sme azda mohli vytvoriť
neobmedzený zdroj transplantátov,
neobmedzený zdroj transplantátov,
13:22
to keep people living indefinitely,
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aby ľudia mohli žiť dlhšie,
13:25
and especially people with lung disease.
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najmä ľudia s chorobou pľúc.
13:28
So we've teamed up with the decoder
of the human genome, Craig Venter,
of the human genome, Craig Venter,
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Tak sme sa spojili s odhaľovačom
ľudského genómu, Craigom Venterom,
ľudského genómu, Craigom Venterom,
13:33
and the company he founded
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a spoločnosťou, ktorú založil
13:35
with Peter Diamandis,
the founder of the X Prize,
the founder of the X Prize,
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spolu s Petrom Diamandisom,
zakladateľom nadácie X Prize,
zakladateľom nadácie X Prize,
13:38
to genetically modify
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aby sme geneticky modifikovali
prasací genóm,
prasací genóm,
13:41
the pig genome
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13:42
so that the pig's organs will not
be rejected by the human body
be rejected by the human body
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aby prasačie orgány
ľudské telo neodmietalo,
ľudské telo neodmietalo,
13:47
and thereby to create an unlimited supply
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a tak by vznikol neobmedzený zdroj
orgánov na transplantáciu.
orgánov na transplantáciu.
13:50
of transplantable organs.
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13:52
We do this through our company,
United Therapeutics.
United Therapeutics.
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Tomuto sa venujeme v našej spoločnosti
United Therapeutics.
United Therapeutics.
13:55
CA: So you really believe that within,
what, a decade,
what, a decade,
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CA: Takže veríte, že o takých desať rokov
13:58
that this shortage of transplantable lungs
maybe be cured, through these guys?
maybe be cured, through these guys?
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môže byť týmto spôsobom nedostatok
transplantátov vyriešený?
transplantátov vyriešený?
14:03
MR: Absolutely, Chris.
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MR: Áno, Chris.
14:04
I'm as certain of that as I was
of the success that we've had
of the success that we've had
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Som si tým rovnako istá,
ako som si bola istá úspechom,
ako som si bola istá úspechom,
14:08
with direct television
broadcasting, Sirius XM.
broadcasting, Sirius XM.
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ktorý sme mali s priamym rádiovým
vysielaním Sirius XM.
vysielaním Sirius XM.
14:11
It's actually not rocket science.
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Nie je to žiadna veľká veda.
14:13
It's straightforward engineering away
one gene after another.
one gene after another.
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Ideme postupne jeden gén za druhým.
14:17
We're so lucky to be born in the time
that sequencing genomes
that sequencing genomes
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Máme veľké šťastie,
že sme sa narodili v dobe,
že sme sa narodili v dobe,
14:21
is a routine activity,
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keď je sekvencovanie genómov bežné
14:24
and the brilliant folks
at Synthetic Genomics
at Synthetic Genomics
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a úžasní odborníci v Synthetic Genomics
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are able to zero in on the pig genome,
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sa dokážu pozrieť na prasací genóm,
14:28
find exactly the genes
that are problematic, and fix them.
that are problematic, and fix them.
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nájsť presne tie gény, ktoré sú
problematické, a opraviť ich.
problematické, a opraviť ich.
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CA: But it's not just bodies that --
though that is amazing.
though that is amazing.
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CA: Nezaoberáte sa však len telami,
hoci toto je úžasné.
hoci toto je úžasné.
14:35
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(potlesk)
14:38
It's not just long-lasting bodies
that are of interest to you now.
that are of interest to you now.
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Neide vám len
o dlhotrvácnosť tela, však?
o dlhotrvácnosť tela, však?
14:42
It's long-lasting minds.
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Ide aj o dlhotrvácnosť mysle.
14:45
And I think this graph for you
says something quite profound.
says something quite profound.
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A myslím, že tento graf má pre vás
hlboký význam.
hlboký význam.
14:50
What does this mean?
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Čo znamená?
14:52
MR: What this graph means,
and it comes from Ray Kurzweil,
and it comes from Ray Kurzweil,
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MR: Tento graf pochádza
od Raya Kurzweila a ukazuje,
od Raya Kurzweila a ukazuje,
14:55
is that the rate of development
in computer processing
in computer processing
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že vývoj hardvéru, firmvéru aj softvéru
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hardware, firmware and software,
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v oblasti počítačov
15:03
has been advancing along a curve
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je taký rýchly,
15:06
such that by the 2020s, as we saw
in earlier presentations today,
in earlier presentations today,
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že v dvadsiatych rokoch tohto
storočia, ako sme už dnes videli,
storočia, ako sme už dnes videli,
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there will be information technology
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budú existovať informačné technológie,
15:13
that processes information
and the world around us
and the world around us
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ktoré budú spracovávať
informácie a svet okolo nás
informácie a svet okolo nás
15:17
at the same rate as a human mind.
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rovnakým tempom ako ľudská myseľ.
15:20
CA: And so that being so, you're actually
getting ready for this world
getting ready for this world
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CA: Ak je to tak, vy sa vlastne
pripravujete na tento svet tým,
pripravujete na tento svet tým,
15:24
by believing that we will soon
be able to, what,
be able to, what,
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že veríte, že čoskoro
budeme schopní, povedzme,
budeme schopní, povedzme,
15:28
actually take the contents of our brains
and somehow preserve them forever?
and somehow preserve them forever?
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načítať obsah našich mozgov
a zachovať ich navždy?
a zachovať ich navždy?
15:34
How do you describe that?
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Ako by ste to opísali?
15:36
MR: Well, Chris, what we're working on
is creating a situation
is creating a situation
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MR: Chris, vytvárame systém,
15:40
where people can create a mind file,
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v ktorom si ľudia budú môcť
vytvoriť súbor svojej mysle,
vytvoriť súbor svojej mysle,
15:43
and a mind file is the collection
of their mannerisms, personality,
of their mannerisms, personality,
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ktorý bude obsahovať
ich zvyky, osobnosť,
ich zvyky, osobnosť,
15:47
recollection, feelings,
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spomienky, pocity,
15:49
beliefs, attitudes and values,
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presvedčenia, postoje a hodnoty,
15:50
everything that we've poured today
into Google, into Amazon, into Facebook,
into Google, into Amazon, into Facebook,
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všetko, čo dnes nalievame
do Googlu, Amazonu, Facebooku,
do Googlu, Amazonu, Facebooku,
15:56
and all of this information stored there
will be able, in the next couple decades,
will be able, in the next couple decades,
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a všetky tieto uložené informácie
budú o niekoľko desaťročí,
budú o niekoľko desaťročí,
16:03
once software is able
to recapitulate consciousness,
to recapitulate consciousness,
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keď softvér umožní obnoviť vedomie,
16:07
be able to revive the consciousness
which is imminent in our mind file.
which is imminent in our mind file.
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schopné oživiť vedomie založené
na súbore našej mysle.
na súbore našej mysle.
16:12
CA: Now you're not just
messing around with this.
messing around with this.
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CA: Teraz nežartujete.
16:15
You're serious. I mean, who is this?
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Myslíte to vážne. Teda, kto je toto?
16:18
MR: This is a robot version of
my beloved spouse, Bina.
my beloved spouse, Bina.
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MR: Toto je robotická verzia
mojej milovanej ženy, Biny.
mojej milovanej ženy, Biny.
16:22
And we call her Bina 48.
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Voláme ju Bina 48.
16:25
She was programmed
by Hanson Robotics out of Texas.
by Hanson Robotics out of Texas.
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Naprogramovali ju
v Hanson Robotics v Texase.
v Hanson Robotics v Texase.
16:28
There's the centerfold
from National Geographic magazine
from National Geographic magazine
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Toto je fotografia z časopisu
National Geographic
National Geographic
16:31
with one of her caregivers,
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s jedným z jej opatrovateľov.
16:34
and she roams the web
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Robot prechádza internet
16:36
and has hundreds of hours
of Bina's mannerisms, personalities.
of Bina's mannerisms, personalities.
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a disponuje stovkami hodín
Bininých spôsobov a osobnosti.
Bininých spôsobov a osobnosti.
16:41
She's kind of like a two-year-old kid,
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Je tak trochu ako dvojročné dieťa,
16:43
but she says things
that blow people away,
that blow people away,
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ale hovorí veci, ktoré ľudí šokujú.
16:46
best expressed by perhaps
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Asi najlepšie to vyjadrila
16:49
a New York Times Pulitzer Prize-winning
journalist Amy Harmon
journalist Amy Harmon
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držiteľka Pulitzerovej ceny
z New York Timesu, Amy Harmonová,
z New York Timesu, Amy Harmonová,
16:53
who says her answers
are often frustrating,
are often frustrating,
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ktorá povedala,
že jej odpovede často sklamú,
že jej odpovede často sklamú,
16:55
but other times as compelling as those
of any flesh person she's interviewed.
of any flesh person she's interviewed.
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ale inokedy sú rovnako dobré
ako odpovede živého človeka.
ako odpovede živého človeka.
17:02
CA: And is your thinking here,
part of your hope here, is that
part of your hope here, is that
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CA: Myslíte si alebo dúfate,
17:06
this version of Bina can in a sense
live on forever, or some future upgrade
live on forever, or some future upgrade
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že táto verzia Biny môže istým spôsobom žiť
naveky alebo že nejaká budúca aktualizácia
naveky alebo že nejaká budúca aktualizácia
17:13
to this version can live on forever?
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tejto verzie bude môcť žiť navždy?
17:15
MR: Yes. Not just Bina, but everybody.
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MR: Áno. Nielen Bina, ale hocikto.
17:17
You know, it costs us virtually nothing
to store our mind files
to store our mind files
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Viete, uskladniť súbory našich myslí
na Facebooku, Instagrame a podobne
na Facebooku, Instagrame a podobne
17:21
on Facebook, Instagram, what-have-you.
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nás prakticky nič nestojí.
17:24
Social media is I think one of the most
extraordinary inventions of our time,
extraordinary inventions of our time,
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Sociálne siete sú podľa mňa jeden
z najväčších vynálezov našej doby
z najväčších vynálezov našej doby
17:28
and as apps become available
that will allow us
that will allow us
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a ako sa nám sprístupňujú aplikácie,
17:32
to out-Siri Siri, better and better,
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ktoré jedna druhú stále prekonávajú,
17:35
and develop consciousness
operating systems,
operating systems,
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a vyvíjajú sa vedome
fungujúce operačné systémy,
fungujúce operačné systémy,
17:38
everybody in the world,
billions of people,
billions of people,
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každý na svete, miliardy ľudí,
17:41
will be able to develop
mind clones of themselves
mind clones of themselves
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si bude môcť vytvoriť
vlastný klon svojej mysle,
vlastný klon svojej mysle,
17:45
that will have their own life on the web.
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ktorý bude žiť svoj vlastný život na webe.
17:47
CA: So the thing is, Martine,
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CA: Viete, Martine,
17:49
that in any normal conversation,
this would sound stark-staring mad,
this would sound stark-staring mad,
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že v každej normálnej konverzácii
by toto všetko znelo úplne šialene,
by toto všetko znelo úplne šialene,
17:53
but in the context of your life,
what you've done,
what you've done,
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ale v kontexte vášho života,
toho, čo ste dokázali,
toho, čo ste dokázali,
17:56
some of the things we've heard this week,
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vecí, o ktorých sme tento týždeň počuli,
17:58
the constructed realities
that our minds give,
that our minds give,
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všetkého, čo naše mysle dokážu vytvoriť,
18:00
I mean, you wouldn't bet against it.
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si myslím, že by ste sa
o to pokojne stavili.
o to pokojne stavili.
18:04
MR: Well, I think it's really nothing
coming from me.
coming from me.
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MR: Myslím, že nič z toho
nie je moja zásluha.
nie je moja zásluha.
18:07
If anything, I'm perhaps a bit
of a communicator of activities
of a communicator of activities
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Ja iba prepájam aktivity,
18:14
that are being undertaken
by the greatest companies
by the greatest companies
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ktoré uskutočňujú najväčšie spoločnosti
18:17
in China, Japan, India, the U.S., Europe.
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v Číne, Japonsku, Indii, USA či Európe.
18:21
There are tens of millions of people
working on writing code
working on writing code
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Desiatky miliónov ľudí píšu kód,
18:25
that expresses more and more aspects
of our human consciousness,
of our human consciousness,
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ktorý vyjadruje stále viac aspektov
nášho ľudského vedomia,
nášho ľudského vedomia,
18:29
and you don't have to be a genius
to see that all these threads
to see that all these threads
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a nemusíte byť géniom, aby ste videli,
že všetky tieto vlákna
že všetky tieto vlákna
18:34
are going to come together
and ultimately create human consciousness,
and ultimately create human consciousness,
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sa napokon spoja a vytvoria
umelé ľudské vedomie,
umelé ľudské vedomie,
18:38
and it's something we'll value.
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a to je niečo, čo si budeme naozaj vážiť.
18:40
There are so many things
to do in this life,
to do in this life,
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V tomto živote sa dá robiť tak veľa vecí
18:43
and if we could have a simulacrum,
a digital doppelgänger of ourselves
a digital doppelgänger of ourselves
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a ak by sme mohli mať svoju vlastnú
podobu, digitálnu kópiu samých seba,
podobu, digitálnu kópiu samých seba,
18:47
that helps us process books, do shopping,
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ktorá by nám pomáhala
čítať knihy, nakupovať,
čítať knihy, nakupovať,
18:50
be our best friends,
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bola naším najlepším priateľom,
18:52
I believe our mind clones,
these digital versions of ourselves,
these digital versions of ourselves,
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verím, že klony našich myslí,
tieto digitálne verzie nás samých,
tieto digitálne verzie nás samých,
18:55
will ultimately be our best friends,
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budú napokon našimi najlepšími priateľmi
18:58
and for me personally and Bina personally,
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a pokiaľ ide o mňa a Binu osobne,
19:00
we love each other like crazy.
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navzájom sa šialene milujeme.
19:02
Each day, we are always saying, like,
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Každý deň si vravíme veci ako:
19:03
"Wow, I love you even more
than 30 years ago.
than 30 years ago.
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„Fíha, milujem ťa ešte
viac ako pred 30 rokmi.“
viac ako pred 30 rokmi.“
19:06
And so for us, the prospect of mind clones
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A tak je pre nás význam klonov myslí
19:09
and regenerated bodies
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a regenerovaných tiel v tom,
19:11
is that our love affair, Chris,
can go on forever.
can go on forever.
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že náš vzťah, Chris,
bude môcť pokračovať navždy.
bude môcť pokračovať navždy.
19:14
And we never get bored of each other.
I'm sure we never will.
I'm sure we never will.
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A nikdy sa navzájom nezačneme
nudiť. Som si istá, že nikdy.
nudiť. Som si istá, že nikdy.
19:17
CA: I think Bina's here, right?
MR: She is, yeah.
MR: She is, yeah.
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CA: Myslím, že Bina je tu, však?
MR: Áno, je.
MR: Áno, je.
19:20
CA: Would it be too much, I don't know,
do we have a handheld mic?
do we have a handheld mic?
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CA: Bolo by to príliš, neviem,
máme ručný mikrofón?
máme ručný mikrofón?
19:23
Bina, could we invite you to the stage?
I just have to ask you one question.
I just have to ask you one question.
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Bina, mohli by sme vás pozvať na pódium?
Musím vám položiť jednu otázku.
Musím vám položiť jednu otázku.
19:27
Besides, we need to see you.
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Okrem toho vás chceme vidieť.
19:28
(Applause)
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(potlesk)
19:35
Thank you, thank you.
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Ďakujem, ďakujem.
19:36
Come and join Martine here.
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Poďte a posaďte sa tu k Martine.
19:39
I mean, look, when you got married,
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Keď ste sa zobrali,
19:44
if someone had told you that,
in a few years time,
in a few years time,
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ak by vám niekto povedal,
že o pár rokov sa muž,
že o pár rokov sa muž,
19:47
the man you were marrying
would become a woman,
would become a woman,
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ktorého si beriete, stane ženou
19:49
and a few years after that,
you would become a robot --
you would become a robot --
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a o pár rokov neskôr sa vy
sama stanete robotom,
sama stanete robotom,
19:52
(Laughter) --
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(smiech)
19:55
how has this gone? How has it been?
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ako ste to prežívali? Aké to bolo?
19:59
Bina Rothblatt: It's been really
an exciting journey,
an exciting journey,
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Bina Rothblattová: Bolo to
veľmi zaujímavé
veľmi zaujímavé
20:01
and I would have never
thought that at the time,
thought that at the time,
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a nikdy by som to nebola čakala,
20:04
but we started making goals
and setting those goals
and setting those goals
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ale začali sme si robiť plány,
stanovovať si ciele
stanovovať si ciele
20:07
and accomplishing things,
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a dosahovať ich
20:09
and before you knew it,
we just keep going up and up
we just keep going up and up
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a jednoducho sme stále pokračovali vpred
20:11
and we're still not stopping,
so it's great.
so it's great.
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a nezastavujeme sa, takže to je úžasné.
20:14
CA: Martine told me something
really beautiful,
really beautiful,
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CA: Martine mi na Skype
pred týmto vystúpením
pred týmto vystúpením
20:17
just actually on Skype before this,
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povedala niečo naozaj nádherné,
20:20
which was that he wanted
to live for hundreds of years
to live for hundreds of years
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a to, že by chcela žiť stovky rokov
20:25
as a mind file,
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ako súbor mysle,
20:28
but not if it wasn't with you.
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ale nie, ak by to malo byť bez vás.
20:31
BR: That's right,
we want to do it together.
we want to do it together.
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BR: To je pravda, chceme to urobiť spolu.
20:33
We're cryonicists as well,
and we want to wake up together.
and we want to wake up together.
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Sme tiež kryonici, a tak
sa chceme zobudiť spolu.
sa chceme zobudiť spolu.
20:36
CA: So just so as you know,
from my point of view,
from my point of view,
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CA: Pre mňa je toto
20:39
this isn't only one of the most
astonishing lives I have heard,
astonishing lives I have heard,
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jednen z najohromnejších životných
príbehov, aké som kedy počul,
príbehov, aké som kedy počul,
20:42
it's one of the most astonishing
love stories I've ever heard.
love stories I've ever heard.
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a aj jeden z najúžasnejších
príbehov lásky, aké poznám.
príbehov lásky, aké poznám.
20:45
It's just a delight to have you
both here at TED.
both here at TED.
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Je jednoducho radosť
mať vás oboch tu na TEDe.
mať vás oboch tu na TEDe.
20:48
Thank you so much.
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Ďakujem veľmi pekne.
20:49
MR: Thank you.
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MR: Ďakujem.
20:51
(Applause)
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(potlesk)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Martine Rothblatt - TranshumanistWhether she’s inventing satellite radio, developing life-saving drugs or digitizing the human mind, Martine Rothblatt has a knack for turning visionary ideas into commonplace technology.
Why you should listen
After creating satellite radio with a startup that went on to become Sirius XM, Martine Rothblatt was on the verge of retirement. But her daughter’s rare lung disease inspired her to start United Therapeutics and develop an oral medication that changed the lives of thousands of patients. Now with the Terasem Foundation, she’s researching the digital preservation of personality as a means to enable the contents of our minds to outlast our bodies.
Rothblatt’s books include The Apartheid of Sex, which (inspired by her experiences as a transgendered woman) takes on conventional wisdom surrounding gender. Her latest book, Virtually Human, explores human rights for the digital lifeforms just over the horizon.
Martine Rothblatt | Speaker | TED.com