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Philip K. Howard - Legal activist
Philip K. Howard is the founder of Common Good, a drive to overhaul the US legal system. His new book is 'The Rule of Nobody.'

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We love to laugh at America’s warning-label culture (the bag of airline peanuts that says Caution: Contains Nuts). But more troubling are the everyday acts of silence and loss promoted by the fear of being sued. Your doctor might not speak to you frankly; your kids’ principal might not feel he has the right to remove bad teachers.

Attorney Philip K. Howard founded the nonpartisan group Common Good to combat this culture and reform several key areas of our legal system. Among Common Good’s suggestions: specialized health care courts, which would give lower but smarter awards, and a project with the NYC Board of Ed and the Teachers Union to overhaul the disciplinary system in New York public schools. His new book is The Rule of Nobody: Saving America from Dead Laws and Broken Government.

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Philip K. Howard: Four ways to fix a broken legal system

菲利普.霍华德:修复残缺法律体系的四种方法

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菲利普K ·霍华德认为:美国这个自由国度已经成为法律雷区——特别是对于教师及医生,他们工作时充满了对吃官司的恐惧。有没有解决之道呢?身为一位律师,霍华德有四条简化美国法律的建议。
- Legal activist
Philip K. Howard is the founder of Common Good, a drive to overhaul the US legal system. His new book is 'The Rule of Nobody.' Full bio

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I've always been interested有兴趣 in
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我一直对
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the relationship关系 of formal正式 structures结构 and human人的 behavior行为.
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关系的形态及人类行为很有兴趣。
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If you build建立 a wide road out to the outskirts郊区 of town, people will move移动 there.
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如果我们修好通往郊区一条宽阔的路,就会有居民迁移到那里。
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Well, law is also a powerful强大 driver司机
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同样,法律也是一个强有力的
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of human人的 behavior行为.
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人类行为驱动器。
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And what I'd like to discuss讨论 today今天
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我今天想讨论的
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is the need to overhaul翻修 and simplify简化 the law
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是整顿和简化法律的必要性,
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to release发布 the energy能源 and passion
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以释放美国人民的能量与激情
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of Americans美国人, so that we can begin开始
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这样我们才能着手
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to address地址 the challenges挑战 of our society社会.
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处理当前社会的各种挑战。
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You might威力 have noticed注意到 that law has grown长大的
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你可以已经感觉到
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progressively逐步 denser更密集 in your lives生活 over the last decade or two.
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在过去的一二十年里你的生活渐渐被法律所笼罩。
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If you run a business商业, it's hard to do much of anything
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如果你经商
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without calling调用 your general一般 counsel法律顾问.
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若不咨询法律顾问,你将举步维艰。
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Indeed确实, there is this phenomenon现象 now
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现在确实就是这么一种状况:
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where the general一般 counsels律师 are becoming变得 the CEOs老总.
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法律顾问成为了CEO
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It's a little bit like the Invasion侵入 Of The Body身体 Snatchers掠夺者.
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这有点像外星人入侵。
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You need a lawyer律师 to run the company公司,
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你需要一个律师经营企业。
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because there's so much law.
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因为法律太多了。
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But it's not just business商业 that's affected受影响 by this,
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但不仅仅是商业受到这样的影响。
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it's actually其实 pressed压制 down into the daily日常 activities活动
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它实际上已经蔓延到
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of ordinary普通 people.
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人民群众的日常生活中。
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A couple一对 of years年份 ago I was hiking徒步旅行 near Cody科迪, Wyoming怀俄明.
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几年前我在怀俄明州科迪徒步旅行。
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It was in a grizzly灰熊 bear preserve保留,
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那是在一个白熊保护区,
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although虽然 no one told me that before we went.
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但去之前没人告诉我这些。
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And our guide指南 was a local本地 science科学 teacher老师.
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我们的导游是当地的一位教师。
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She was wholly unconcerned漠不关心 about the bears,
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她与这些熊毫无关联,
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but she was terrified of lawyers律师.
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但她非常害怕律师。
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The stories故事 started开始 pouring浇注 out.
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故事的倾诉由此开始。
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She'd just been involved参与 in an episode插曲 where a parent
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她刚刚卷入一场
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had threatened受威胁 to sue起诉 the school学校
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家长威胁要控告学校的纠纷中
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because she lowered降低 the grade年级 of the student学生 by 10 percent百分
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是因为她给一位学生降低了10%的分数,
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when he turned转身 the paper in late晚了.
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因为他不按时交卷。
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The principal主要 didn't want to stand up to the parent
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校长不想与家长作对
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because he didn't want to get dragged into some legal法律 proceedings诉讼.
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因为他不愿意陷入法律诉讼程序。
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So, she had to go to meeting会议 after meeting会议, same相同 arguments参数 made制作
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因此,她只好参加一个接一个的会议,
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over and over again.
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同样的论述重复了一遍又一遍。
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After 30 days of sleepless无眠 nights, she finally最后 capitulated投降
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经过长达30天的无眠之夜之后,她最终选择了投降,
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and raised上调 the grade年级.
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并上调了分数。
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She said, "Life's人生 too short, I just can't keep going with this."
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她说,“生命如此短暂,我不能纠结在这里。”
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About the same相同 time, she was going to take two students学生们 to a leadership领导 conference会议
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与此同时,她要带两个学生出席一个领导力会议,
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in Laramie拉勒米, which哪一个 is a couple一对 of hours小时 away,
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位于几小时车程开外的拉勒米(Laramie),
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and she was going to drive驾驶 them in her car汽车,
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她本打算用自己的车送他们去,
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but the school学校 said, "No, you can't drive驾驶 them in the car汽车
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但学校却说,"不,出于责权考虑,
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for liability责任 reasons原因.
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你不能用自己的车送他们。
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You have to go in a school学校 bus总线."
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必须乘坐学校校车。“
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So, they provided提供 a bus总线 that held保持 60 people
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为此,动用了一辆可载60人的巴士
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and drove开车 the three of them back and forth向前
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花几小时送他们三人
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several一些 hours小时 to Laramie拉勒米.
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往返Laramie(拉勒米)。
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Her husband丈夫 is also a science科学 teacher老师,
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他丈夫也是一位理科教师,
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and he takes his biology生物学 class on a hike远足
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他经常带着他的生物课班学生
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in the nearby附近 national国民 park公园.
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去国家公园附近徒步旅行。
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But he was told he couldn't不能 go on the hike远足 this year
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但他被告知今年不能组织登山,
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because one of the students学生们 in the class was disabled,
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因为他班里有一个学生是残疾人,
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so the other 25 students学生们 didn't get to go on the hike远足 either.
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其他的25个学生也不能参加登山活动了。
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At the end结束 of this day I could have filled填充 a book
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在这天结束时我可以出一本
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just with stories故事 about law
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来源于这位教师
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from this one teacher老师.
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的法律故事书。
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Now, we've我们已经 been taught to believe that law
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现在,我们已经被教唆相信
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is the foundation基础 of freedom自由.
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法律是自由的基础。
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But somehow不知何故 or another另一个, in the last couple一对 of decades几十年,
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但因种种原因在过去几十年
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the land土地 of the free自由 has become成为 a legal法律 minefield雷区.
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我们的自由国度已成为一片法律雷区。
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It's really changed our lives生活 in ways方法
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它已经以
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that are sort分类 of imperceptible难以察觉;
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某种不知不觉的方式改变了我们的生活。
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and yet然而, when you pull back, you see it all the time.
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当你回想起来,你始终可以看到这一点。
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It's changed the way we talk. I was talking to a
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它改变了我们谈话的方式。我曾经和一位
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pediatrician儿科医师 friend朋友
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在北卡罗利纳的儿科医生朋友谈话。
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in North Carolina卡罗来纳州. He said,
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他说,
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"Well you know, I don't deal合同 with patients耐心 the same相同 way anymore.
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“你知道的,我再也不想以前那样和病人打交道了,
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You wouldn't不会 want to say something off-the-cuff现成的袖带
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你不会愿意从你口中说出的话
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that might威力 be used against反对 you."
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被他们用来起诉你的理由。“
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This is a doctor医生, whose谁的 life is caring爱心 for people.
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这是一位医生,他的使命是照顾人们。
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My own拥有 law firm公司 has a list名单 of questions问题
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我组件的律师事务所有一个
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that I'm not allowed允许 to ask
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与候选者交谈时不允许涉及的
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when interviewing面试 candidates候选人,
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问题列表。
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such这样 as the sinister险恶 question,
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比如不吉利的问题,
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bulging挺着 with hidden motives动机 and innuendo讽刺,
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凸显隐藏的动机和讥讽,
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"Where are you from?"
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诸如“你来自哪里?”
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(Laughter笑声)
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(笑声)
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Now for 20 years年份, tort侵权 reformers改革者 have been sounding听起来 the alarm报警
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在过去的20年中,民事侵权行为改革人士已经敲响了
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that lawsuits诉讼 are out of control控制.
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法律失控的警钟。
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And we read every一切 once一旦 in while
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并且我们每次读到
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about these crazy lawsuits诉讼, like the guy
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这些疯狂的起诉故事的时候,
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in the District of Columbia哥伦比亚 who sued起诉 his dry cleaners清洁工 for 54 million百万 dollars美元
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就像哥伦比亚区的那位起诉他的清洁工获得5千4百万美元
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because they lost丢失 his pair of pants裤子.
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因为他们使去了他的一条裤子。
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The case案件 went on for two years年份; I think he's still appealing吸引人的 the case案件.
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这个案子是两年了,我觉得他还在上诉这个案子。
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But the reality现实 is, these crazy cases
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但现实是,这些疯狂的案子是相对来讲很少的。
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are relatively相对 rare罕见. They don't usually平时 win赢得.
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它们一般不会胜诉。
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And the total of direct直接 tort侵权 cost成本
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因为美国的直接侵权行为的总成本
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in this country国家 is about two percent百分,
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大概有两个百分点,
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which哪一个 is twice两次 as much as in other countries国家
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是其它国家的两倍。
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but, as taxes go, hardly几乎不 crippling瘫痪.
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但是,随着税收的严重削减。
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But the direct直接 costs成本 are really only the tip小费 of the iceberg冰山.
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直接成本实际上只是冰山一角。
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What's happened发生 here, again,
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这里曾经发生的,
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almost几乎 without our knowing会心,
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几乎无需我们知道,
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is our culture文化 has changed.
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我们的文化已经改变。
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People no longer feel free自由
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人们已经在做他们最好的判断时
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to act法案 on their best最好 judgment判断.
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已经不再感觉到自由了。
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So, what do we do about it?
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那么,我们要怎么改变它?
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We certainly当然 don't want to give up the rights权利,
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我们当然不愿意放弃权力,
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when people do something wrong错误, to seek寻求 redress纠正 in the courts法院.
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当人们做错事的时候,去法庭寻求公正。
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We need regulation to make sure
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我们需要监管来确保人们不去污染
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people don't pollute污染 and such这样.
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或者做之类的坏事儿。
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We lack缺乏 even a vocabulary词汇 to deal合同 with
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我们甚至没有一个词汇来形容
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this problem问题,
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这个问题。
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and that's because we have the wrong错误 frame of reference参考.
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那是因为我们现在有错误的参考体系。
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We've我们已经 been trained熟练 to think that the way to look at every一切 dispute争议,
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我们已经被训练成研究每个争端,每个问题
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every一切 issue问题, is a matter of kind of individual个人 rights权利.
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是一种个人权益的问题。
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And so we peer窥视 through通过 a legal法律 microscope显微镜, and look at everything.
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我们通过法律的放大镜去研究每件事。
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Is it possible可能 that there are extenuating情有可原 circumstances情况
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有没有可能有其它的情况
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that explain说明 why Johnny约翰尼
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来解释怀俄明州的强尼
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turned转身 his paper in late晚了 in Cody科迪, Wyoming怀俄明?
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把他的遗书上交如此晚?
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Is it possible可能 that the doctor医生
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有没有可能让医生去做一些别的事情来
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might威力 have doneDONE something differently不同 when the sick生病 person gets得到 sicker病情加重?
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不让病人变的更严重。
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And of course课程 the hindsight事后 bias偏压 is perfect完善.
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当然有事后聪明马后炮的。
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There's always a different不同 scenario脚本 that you can sketch草图 out
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当然你总是可以轻松讲一些不同的场景
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where it's possible可能 that something could have been doneDONE differently不同.
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不同事情本来应该能完成的更好一些。
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And yet然而, we've我们已经 been trained熟练 to squint into this legal法律 microscope显微镜,
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但我们已经习惯了眯着眼睛拿着法律的放大镜
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hoping希望 that we can judge法官 any dispute争议
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希望我们用一个完美社会的标准来
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against反对 the standard标准 of a perfect完善 society社会,
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判断任何标准。
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where everyone大家 will agree同意 what's fair公平,
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一个任何人都同意的,公平的
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and where accidents事故 will be extinct绝种,
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不存在偶然事件的
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risk风险 will be no more.
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没有风险的标准。
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Of course课程, this is Utopia乌托邦;
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这当然是乌托帮了,
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it's a formula for paralysis麻痹, not freedom自由.
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这是一个瘫痪的,不自由的公式。
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It's not the basis基础 of the rule规则 of law,
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这不是法律的基石,
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it's not the basis基础 of a free自由 society社会.
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也不是自由社会的基石。
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So, now I have the first of four propositions命题
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所以,我们来看四大建议的第一个,
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I'm going to leave离开 with you about how you simplify简化 the law:
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我会告诉你你怎么样简化法律。
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You've got to judge法官 law mainly主要
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你判断法律主要是
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by its effect影响 on the broader更广泛 society社会,
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根据它对大社会产生的影响,
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not individual个人 disputes争议.
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而不是个案纠纷。
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Absolutely绝对 vital重要.
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绝对至关重要。
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So, let's pull back from the anecdotes轶事 for a second第二
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那么,我们再看一条轶事
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and look at our society社会 from high above以上.
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并且研究一下我们的上层社会。
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Is it working加工?
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这好使吗?
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What does the macro-data宏观数据 show显示 us?
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宏数据会告诉我们什么?
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Well, the healthcare卫生保健 system系统 has been transformed改造:
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医疗系统已经完成改革。
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a culture文化 pervaded弥散着 with defensiveness防御,
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一个弥漫着自我防守气息的文化。
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universal普遍 distrust怀疑 of the system系统 of justice正义,
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对系统公正性的普遍不信任。
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universal普遍 practice实践 of defensive防御性 medicine医学.
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自我保护性开一些常用药物的处方。
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It's very hard to measure测量
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衡量这些真的不容易
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because there are mixed motives动机.
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因为混合的动机太多了。
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Doctors医生 can make more on ordering排序 tests测试 sometimes有时,
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医生可以花更多的时候在排序测试上。
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and also they no longer even know what's right or wrong错误.
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并且他们不再知道什么是对的或者错的
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But reliable可靠 estimates估计
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但保守估计
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range范围 between之间 60 billion十亿 and
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会在600亿到2000亿美元的范围
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200 billion十亿 dollars美元 per year.
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每年。
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That's enough足够 to provide提供 care关心 to all the people
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in America美国 who don't have it.
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提供免费治疗了。
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The trial审讯 lawyers律师 say, "Well, this legal法律 fear恐惧
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makes品牌 doctors医生 practice实践 better medicine医学."
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使医生们采用更好的药物。“
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Well that's been studied研究 too, by the Institute研究所 of Medicine医学
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那已经是药品研究所和其它机构的研究成果。
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and others其他. Turns out that's not the case案件.
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但这不是重点。
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The fear恐惧 has chilled professional专业的 interaction相互作用
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so thousands数千 of tragic悲惨 errors错误 occur发生
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因此数以千计的杯具发生,
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because doctors医生 are afraid害怕
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因为医生害怕多说话:
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to speak说话 up: "Are you sure that's the right dosage剂量?"
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“你确定这是正确的剂量吗?”
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Because they're not sure,
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因为他们不确定,
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and they don't want to take legal法律 responsibility责任.
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并且他们不想担负法律责任。
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Let's go to schools学校.
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让我们去学校吧。
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As we saw with the teacher老师 in Cody科迪, Wyoming怀俄明,
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就像我们看到的怀俄明州的那位老师一样,
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she seems似乎 to be affected受影响 by the law.
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她看起来深受法律影响。
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Well it turns out the schools学校 are literally按照字面 drowning溺死 in law.
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这表明学校简直在法律的海洋里溺死了。
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You could have a separate分离 section部分 of a law library图书馆
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你可以在法律图书馆按以下法律概念
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around each of the following以下 legal法律 concepts概念:
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找到单独的一个区域。
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due应有 process处理, special特别 education教育,
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正当程序,特殊教育,
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no child儿童 left behind背后,
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不让一个孩子掉队法案,
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zero tolerance公差, work rules规则 ...
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零容忍,工作守则。
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it goes on. We did a study研究
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它继续发展。
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of all the rules规则 that affect影响 one school学校
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in New York纽约. The Board of Ed埃德. had no idea理念.
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做了一个调查。 教育委员会对此并不知情。
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Tens of thousands数千 of discreet慎重 rules规则,
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数十万讲的慎密的条规,
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60 steps脚步 to suspend暂停 a student学生 from school学校:
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一个孩子休学需要60个步骤。
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It's a formula for paralysis麻痹.
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这是个让人瘫痪的公式。
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What's the effect影响 of that? One is a decline下降 in order订购.
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结果是什么?其中之一是效率的下降。
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Again, studies学习 have shown显示
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另外,研究表明
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it's directly attributable归属
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它直接归咎于
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to the rise上升 of due应有 process处理.
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正当程序的提升。
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Public上市 agenda议程 did a survey调查 for us a couple一对 of years年份 ago
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公众议程在几年前做了一个调查
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where they found发现 that 43 percent百分 of the high school学校 teachers教师 in America美国
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say that they spend at least最小 half of their time
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说他们花了至少一半的时间
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maintaining维持 order订购 in the classroom课堂.
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来维护课堂秩序。
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That means手段 those students学生们 are getting得到 half the learning学习
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这表明这些学生只用了他们规定学习时间的一半,
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they're supposed应该 to, because if one child儿童 is disrupting妨害 the class
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因为如果一个孩子扰乱课堂秩序,
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no one can learn学习.
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谁也学不成。
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And what happens发生 when the teacher老师 tries尝试 to assert断言 order订购?
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那么老师在试图维护课程秩序的时候会发生什么呢?
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They're threatened受威胁 with a legal法律 claim要求.
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他们被一个法律要求所威胁。
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We also surveyed调查 that. Seventy-eight七八 percent百分 of the middle中间 and high school学校 teachers教师
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我们还做了调查。美国境内的78%的高中或初中老师
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in America美国 have been threatened受威胁 by their students学生们
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都被他们的学生
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with violating违反 their rights权利, with lawsuits诉讼
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用侵权起诉来威胁过。
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by their students学生们. They are threatening危险的, their students学生们.
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他们威胁他们的学生。
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It's not that they usually平时 sue起诉,
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他们并不是经常起诉。
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it's not that they would win赢得, but it's an
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他们并不是一定会赢,
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indication迹象 of the corrosion腐蚀 of authority权威.
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但这是权威的瓦解的迹象。
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And how has this system系统 of law worked工作 for government政府?
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那么这套法律系统是怎么为政府运作的呢?
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It doesn't seem似乎 to be working加工 very well does it?
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它的运作情况看起来并不是很好,不是吗?
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Neither也不 in Sacramento萨克拉门托 nor也不 in Washington华盛顿.
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在萨克拉门托和华盛顿都很不好。
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The other day at the State of the Union联盟 speech言语,
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在另一天的发表的国情咨文中
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President主席 Obama奥巴马 said,
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总统奥巴马说,
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and I think we could all agree同意 with this goal目标,
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我想我们都有这个共同的目标,
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"From the first railroads铁路 to the interstate州际 highway高速公路 system系统,
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“从第一条铁路,到现在的州际高铁,
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our nation国家 has always been the first to compete竞争.
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我们的国家总是第一个完成这样的项目。
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There is no reason原因 Europe欧洲 or China中国 should have the fastest最快的 trains火车."
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没有理由让欧洲和中国拥有世界上最快的火车."
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Well, actually其实 there is a reason原因:
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事实上确实有一个理由,
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Environmental环境的 review评论 has evolved进化 into a process处理
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环境检查已经上升到标准流程中
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of no pebble卵石 left unturned千方百计
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十年中的任何主要的工程
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for any major重大的 project项目 taking服用 the better part部分 of a decade,
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都千方百计的通过环境检查。
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then followed其次 by years年份 of litigation诉讼
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然后是面对那些不喜欢这个项目的人,
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by anybody任何人 who doesn't like the project项目.
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度过数年的诉讼岁月。
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Then, just staying above以上 the Earth地球 for one more second第二,
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然后,在地球上多呆一秒钟,
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people are acting演戏 like idiots白痴,
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人们就表演的像傻蛋一样,
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(Laughter笑声)
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(笑声)
09:37
all across横过 the country国家.
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全国人民都一样。
09:39
(Applause掌声)
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(掌声)
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Idiots白痴. A couple一对 of years年份 ago,
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傻蛋。 几年之前,
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Broward布劳沃德 County, Florida佛罗里达, banned取缔 running赛跑 at recess凹槽.
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佛罗里达州布罗瓦郡,颁布法律禁止在休息时间跑动。
09:47
(Laughter笑声)
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(笑声)
09:48
That means手段 all the boys男孩 are going to be ADD.
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那意味着所有的男孩子们都会得多动症。
09:51
I mean it's just absolutely绝对
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我觉得这绝对是一个
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a formula for failure失败.
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失败的公式。
09:55
My favorite喜爱, though虽然, are all the warning警告 labels标签.
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我最喜欢讲的,是那些警告标签。
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"Caution警告: Contents内容 are hot,"
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警告,这些东西非常烫,
09:59
on billions数十亿 of coffee咖啡 cups.
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数亿杯咖啡的杯子上。
10:01
Archeologists考古学家 will dig us up in a thousand years年份
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考古学家想在一千年后把我们挖出来
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and they won't惯于 know about defensive防御性 medicine医学 and stuff东东,
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并且他们将不知道这些自我保护性的药品和口号,
10:07
but they'll他们会 see all these labels标签, "Contents内容 are extremely非常 hot."
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但他们会看到这些警告,这些东西超级Hot"烫"。
10:10
They'll他们会 think it was some kind of aphrodisiac春药.
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他们会认为这是某种春药。
10:12
That's the only explanation说明. Because why
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这是杯子上的唯一的解释。
10:15
would you have to tell people that something was actually其实 hot?
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因为你唯一要告诉别人的是什么东西非常非常的Hot”热“。
10:18
My favorite喜爱 warning警告 was one on a five-inch五寸 fishing钓鱼 lure.
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我喜欢的一个警告是五英寸的鱼铒。
10:21
I grew成长 up in the South and whiled消磨 away the summers夏天 fishing钓鱼.
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我长在南方并且每年夏天都要钓鱼。
10:24
Five-inch五英寸 fishing钓鱼 lure, it's a big fishing钓鱼 lure,
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五英寸的鱼铒,这是相当大的鱼饵,
10:26
with a three pronged双管齐下 hook in the back,
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后面带着一个三叉钩,
10:28
and outside it said, "Harmful有害 if swallowed吞食."
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但在外面它说,“吞食有害健康。”
10:31
(Laughter笑声)
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(笑声)
10:38
So, none没有 of these people
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所以,没有人去这样做
10:40
are doing what they think is right.
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他们认为正确的事情。
10:42
And why not? They don't trust相信 the law. Why don't they trust相信 the law?
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那为为什么不?他们不信任法律。他们为什么不信任法律?
10:44
Because it gives us the worst最差 of both worlds世界:
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因为法律给我们最坏的两种世界。
10:46
It's random随机 -- anybody任何人 can sue起诉 for almost几乎 anything
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它随机。任何人可以起诉几乎是任何东西
10:49
and take it to a jury陪审团, not even an effort功夫 at consistency一致性 --
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并且让它受伤。甚至没有一个一致性。
10:52
and it's also too detailed详细.
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并且它太详尽了。
10:54
In the areas that are regulated调控, there are so many许多 rules规则
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在被法律规范的区域里,
10:57
no human人的 could possibly或者 know it.
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有太多的人类不可能理解的规定。
10:59
Well how do you fix固定 it? We could spend 10,000 lifetimes寿命
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那么你怎么弥补呢?我们可以花1万人一生的时间来
11:01
trying to prune修剪 this legal法律 jungle丛林.
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尝试修剪这个热带雨森般复杂的法律。
11:03
But the challenge挑战 here is not one of just
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但真正的挑战不是仅仅的去
11:06
amending修订 the law,
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修正法律。
11:08
because the hurdle for success成功 is trust相信.
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因为成功的最本质原因是信任。
11:12
People -- for law to be the platform平台 for freedom自由,
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人们,在法律的范围内追寻自由,
11:16
people have to trust相信 it.
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人们必须信任它。
11:19
So, that's my second第二 proposition主张:
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所以,这是我第二个建议。
11:21
Trust相信 is an essential必要 condition条件
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信任是自由社会的一个
11:24
to a free自由 society社会.
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关键的条件。
11:26
Life is complicated复杂 enough足够 without legal法律 fear恐惧.
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即使除去对法律的恐惧的生活已经够复杂了。
11:29
But law is different不同 than other kinds of uncertainties不确定性,
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但法律又是不同于其它不确定因素。
11:31
because it carries携带 with it the power功率 of state.
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因为它象征着国家权利。
11:34
And so the state can come in.
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所以国家可以站出来。
11:36
It actually其实 changes变化 the way people think.
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它实际上改变了人们的思考方式。
11:39
It's like having a little lawyer律师 on your shoulders肩膀
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就像是有一个小律师站在你的肩膀,
11:42
all day long, whispering耳语 in your ear,
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整天对着你的耳朵窃窃私语,
11:44
"Could that go wrong错误? Might威力 that go wrong错误?"
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“这个会出问题吗? 那个可能有问题吗?”
11:46
It drives驱动器 people from the smart聪明 part部分 of the brain --
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它能在很多方面,
11:50
that dark黑暗, deep well of the subconscious潜意识,
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从很深的潜意识层次,
11:53
where instincts本能 and experience经验,
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从本能上和经验上,
11:55
and all the other factors因素 of creativity创造力
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以及创新能力上或者判断力上,
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and good judgment判断 are --
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把人们非常聪明伶利变的因阴暗,
12:00
it drives驱动器 us to the thin veneer单板 of conscious意识 logic逻辑.
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它会驱使我们带个意识逻辑的外表。
12:03
Pretty漂亮 soon不久 the doctor's医生 saying, "Well, I doubt怀疑
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过些时间医生会说,“好吧,
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if that headache头痛 could be a tumor, but who would protect保护 me
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我怀疑这个头疼可能是一个肿瘤,但如果是,谁会保护我呢?
12:07
if it were? So maybe I'll just order订购 the MRIMRI."
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那么我就让他去做个磁共振(MRI)好了。
12:10
Then you've wasted浪费 200 billion十亿 dollars美元 in unnecessary不必要 tests测试.
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所以,你已经在不必要的测试上浪费了2000亿美金。
12:14
If you make people self-conscious自我意识
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如果你让你人们去做判断,
12:17
about their judgments判断, studies学习 show显示
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研究表明
12:19
you will make them make worse更差 judgments判断.
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你会让他们做更糟糕的判断。
12:22
If you tell the pianist钢琴家 to think about how she's hitting the notes笔记
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如果你告诉钢琴师当他们演奏时,让他们去考虑自己是如果敲击乐符的,
12:26
when she's playing播放 the piece, she can't play the piece.
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她们就无法演奏下去了。
12:30
Self-consciousness自我意识 is the enemy敌人 of accomplishment成就.
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自我意识是完成目标的敌人。
12:33
Edison爱迪生 stated声明 it best最好. He said,
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爱迪生就是最好的例子。 他说,
12:35
"Hell地狱, we ain't got no rules规则 around here,
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"该列,我们这里不要任何规则,
12:37
we're trying to accomplish完成 something."
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我们想真正做点实事儿。
12:39
(Laughter笑声)
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(笑声)
12:41
So, how do you restore恢复 trust相信?
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所以,怎么才能恢复信任?
12:42
Tweaking扭捏 the law's法律的 clearly明确地 not good enough足够,
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改进我们的法律很显然已经不够了。
12:44
and tort侵权 reform改革, which哪一个 is a great idea理念,
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改革侵权行为是一个特别好的主意。
12:47
lowers降低 your cost成本 if you're a businessperson商人,
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可以降低商人的成本,
12:49
but it's like a Band-Aid创可贴 on this gaping张开 wound伤口 of distrust怀疑.
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但像是一个急救绷带打在一个不信任的伤口上。
12:52
States状态 with extensive广泛 tort侵权 reform改革
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一个有着大量侵权行为改革的国家
12:54
still suffer遭受 all these pathologies病理.
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仍然遭受着这些病因。
12:56
So, what's needed需要 is not just to limit限制 claims索赔,
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所以,我们需要的不仅是有限的声明,
12:59
but actually其实 create创建 a dry ground地面 of freedom自由.
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而是真正的去创造一片自由之域。
13:02
It turns out that freedom自由 actually其实 has a formal正式 structure结构体.
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这样的结果就是自由实际上是一个正式的结构。
13:06
And it is this:
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并且它是这样:
13:08
Law sets boundaries边界,
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法律制定界限,
13:10
and on one side of those boundaries边界 are all the things
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一方面这些界限是所有你不能做的东西
13:12
you can't do or must必须 do --
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或者必须做的东西。
13:14
you can't steal, you've got to pay工资 your taxes --
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你不能偷。 你必须缴税。
13:15
but those same相同 boundaries边界 are supposed应该 to define确定
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但这相同的边界本应该去定义和保护
13:18
and protect保护 a dry ground地面 of freedom自由.
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自由之域。
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Isaiah以赛亚 Berlin柏林 put it this way:
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以赛亚·柏林这么认为,
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"Law sets frontiers前沿, not artificially人为 drawn,
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“法律制定边境,不是人工画出来的,
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within which哪一个 men男人 shall be inviolable不可侵犯."
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那就是人们应该是不可侵犯的。”
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We've我们已经 forgotten忘记了 that second第二 part部分.
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我们已经忘记了第二部份。
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Those dikes堤防 have burst爆裂. People wade through通过 law
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像决堤的大坝一样。 人们在法律的世界里跋山涉水呀
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all day long.
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日复一日。
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So, what's needed需要 now
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那么,我们现在要做的
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is to rebuild重建 these boundaries边界.
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就是重新定义这些边界。
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And it's especially特别 important重要 to rebuild重建 them
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并且对重新定义它们对于法律诉讼
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for lawsuits诉讼.
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有着很重要的意义。
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Because what people can sue起诉 for establishes建立 the boundaries边界
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因为人们可以起诉的那些边界
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for everybody每个人 else's别人的 freedom自由.
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是别人的自由。
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If someone有人 brings带来 a lawsuit诉讼 over, "A kid孩子 fell下跌 off the seesaw跷跷板,"
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如果有人诉讼,一个孩子在跷跷板上摔下来了,
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it doesn't matter what happens发生 in the lawsuit诉讼,
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不管诉讼的结果如何,
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all the seesaws跷跷板 will disappear消失.
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所有的跷跷板都会消失掉。
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Because no one will want to take the risk风险 of a lawsuit诉讼.
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因为没有人愿意担着被起诉的危险。
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And that's what's happened发生. There are no seesaws跷跷板, jungle丛林 gyms健身房,
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这就是这个世界。 将不在会有跷跷板,攀登架,
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merry-go-rounds旋转木马轮, climbing攀登 ropes绳索,
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旋转木马,攀登绳,
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nothing that would interest利益 a kid孩子 over the age年龄 of four,
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大于四岁的孩子们将不再会有乐趣,
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because there's no risk风险 associated相关 with it.
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因为他们的世界没有任何风险。
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So, how do we rebuild重建 it?
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那么,我们如何重新打造它?
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Life is too complex复杂 for...
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生命已经太复杂而…
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(Applause掌声)
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Life is too complex复杂 for a software软件 program程序.
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生命过于复杂了而非一个软件程序能涵盖的。
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All these choices选择 involve涉及 value judgments判断
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所有的这些选择都包含价值判断,
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and social社会 norms规范, not objective目的 facts事实.
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和社会规范,而不是客观事实。
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And so here is the fourth第四 proposition主张.
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那么这里我的第四个建议。
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This is what we have, the philosophy哲学 we have to change更改 to.
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这是我们拥有的,我们不得不接受的哲学。
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And there are two essential必要 elements分子 of it:
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并且它的两个关键的元素。
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We have to simplify简化 the law.
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我们不得不简化这个法律。
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We have to migrate迁移 from all this complexity复杂
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我们不得不从这些复杂的东西转换成
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towards general一般 principles原则 and goals目标.
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总体的原则和目标。
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The constitution宪法 is only 16 pages网页 long.
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宪法只有16页长。
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Worked工作 pretty漂亮 well for 200 years年份.
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已经完美运作了快两百年。
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Law has to be simple简单 enough足够
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法律必须足够简单
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so that people can internalize内在 it
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所以人们可以进行内部消化
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in their daily日常 choices选择.
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真正运用在他们的日常生活中。
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If they can't internalize内在 it, they won't惯于 trust相信 it.
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如果不能真正把它们内部消化,他们也不会信任它。
14:58
And how do you make it simple简单?
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那么,怎么才能让它变的更简单一些?
15:00
Because life is complex复杂,
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因为人生是复杂的。
15:02
and here is the hardest最难 and biggest最大 change更改:
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那么,这里是最难也是最大的改变。
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We have to restore恢复 the authority权威
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我们必须恢复当局对审判
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to judges法官 and officials官员
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以及官方
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to interpret and apply应用 the law.
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对法律的诠释的权力。
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(Applause掌声)
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(掌声)
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We have to rehumanizerehumanize the law.
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我们必须把法律重新人道化。
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To make law simple简单 so that you feel free自由,
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将法律变的更简单,因此你会感觉更自由,
15:20
the people in charge收费 have to be free自由
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当权的人必须能自由的用他们的判断来
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to use their judgment判断 to interpret and apply应用 the law
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诠释和执行法律
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in accord符合 with reasonable合理 social社会 norms规范.
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与合理的社会标准保持一致。
15:27
As you're going down, and walking步行 down the sidewalk人行道 during the day,
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你在大白天的大马路上散步
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you have to think that if there is a dispute争议,
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你必须知道,如果那里有争端出现,
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there's somebody in society社会 who sees看到 it as their job工作
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如果你的行为合理,
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to affirmatively肯定地 protect保护 you
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这个社会上应该有人去当成本质工作去
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if you're acting演戏 reasonably合理.
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保护你。
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That person doesn't exist存在 today今天.
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我们现在没有这个角色。
15:45
This is the hardest最难 hurdle.
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这是最难克服的障碍。
15:48
It's actually其实 not very hard. Ninety-eight九八 percent百分 of cases, this is a piece of cake蛋糕.
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实际上,它不难。98%的案例都是小菜一碟。
15:51
Maybe you've got a claim要求 in small claims索赔 court法庭
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也许你接到小法庭的一个索赔,
15:53
for your lost丢失 pair of pants裤子 for $100,
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你丢了一条一百美元的裤子。
15:55
but not in a court法庭 of general一般 jurisdiction管辖权 for millions百万 of dollars美元.
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但不是在一个高级司法权的大法庭上的价值百万的案子。
15:58
Case案件 dismissed驳回 without prejudice偏见 or refilingrefiling in small claims索赔 court法庭.
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案例在小法庭上没有偏倚被取消。
16:01
Takes five minutes分钟. That's it,
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五分钟搞定。就这样。
16:03
it's not that hard.
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这并不难。
16:05
But it's a hard hurdle because we got into this legal法律 quicksand流沙
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但难点在于我们已经陷入了法律流沙中
16:09
because we woke醒来 up in the 1960s
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因为我们在六十年代唤醒了这些
16:11
to all these really bad values: racism种族主义,
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特别邪恶的价值观,种族主义,
16:13
gender性别 discrimination区别, pollution污染 --
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性别歧视,污染。
16:15
they were bad values. And we wanted to create创建 a legal法律 system系统
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这些是很邪恶的价值观。并且我们希望创造一个法律系统,
16:18
where no one could have bad values anymore.
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一个人们不再能抱有邪恶价值观的法律系统。
16:22
The problem问题 is, we created创建 a system系统
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问题是,我们创造了这个系统,
16:24
where we eliminated淘汰 the right to have good values.
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一个我们把好的价值观也消灭掉的法律系统。
16:26
It doesn't mean that people in authority权威
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这并不是说当局可以为所欲为。
16:30
can do whatever随你 they want.
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这并不是说当局可以为所欲为。
16:32
They're still bounded by legal法律 goals目标 and principles原则:
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他们仍然被法律的目标和原则所界定。
16:35
The teacher老师 is accountable问责 to the principal主要,
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老师对原则负责。
16:38
the judge法官 is accountable问责 to an appellate受理上诉的 court法庭,
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法官对上诉法院负责。
16:40
the president主席 is accountable问责 to voters选民.
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总统对选民负责
16:43
But the accountability's问责制的 up the line线
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但是责任感可以上升到
16:45
judging判断 the decision决定 against反对 the effect影响 on everybody每个人,
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对这个决定对每个人产生的影响来判断。
16:48
not just on the disgruntled不满 person.
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而对于不爽的那个人的影响。
16:51
You can't run a society社会 by the lowest最低 common共同 denominator分母.
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你不能用最低标准去运行一个社会。
16:55
(Applause掌声)
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(掌声)
17:02
So, what's needed需要 is a basic基本 shift转移 in philosophy哲学.
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那么,我们要做的哲学上的一个基本转化。
17:04
We can pull the plug插头 on a lot of this stuff东东 if we shift转移 our philosophy哲学.
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如果我们转换自己的哲学,我们可以减少很多这样的问题。
17:07
We've我们已经 been taught that authority权威 is the enemy敌人 of freedom自由.
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我们被教唆的是权威是自由的敌人。
17:10
It's not true真正. Authority权威, in fact事实,
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那是瞎话。事实上,
17:12
is essential必要 to freedom自由.
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权威是自由的关键。
17:14
Law is a human人的 institution机构;
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法律是一种人类习俗。
17:16
responsibility责任 is a human人的 institution机构.
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责任感是一种人类习俗。
17:18
If teachers教师 don't have authority权威 to run the classroom课堂,
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如果老师并没有权威去管理教室,
17:20
to maintain保持 order订购, everybody's每个人的 learning学习 suffers患有.
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去维护秩序,每个人的学习。
17:23
If the judge法官 doesn't have the authority权威 to toss折腾 out unreasonable不合理 claims索赔,
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如果法官没有权利去拒绝不合理的上诉
17:26
then all of us go through通过 the day looking over our shoulders肩膀.
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那么我们会整天心惊胆战。
17:28
If the environmental环境的 agency机构 can't decide决定
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如果环境部门不能决定
17:30
that the power功率 lines线 are good for the environment环境,
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哪种电线对环境有利,
17:33
then there's no way to bring带来 the power功率 from the wind farms农场
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那么我们就没办法将电从风力电站
17:35
to the city.
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输送到城市。
17:37
A free自由 society社会 requires要求 red lights灯火 and green绿色 lights灯火,
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一个自由的社会一定要有红灯也有绿灯,
17:40
otherwise除此以外 it soon不久 descends下降 into gridlock僵局.
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否则很快就会交通拥堵。
17:43
That's what's happened发生 to America美国. Look around.
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这就是美国的现状。 四处看看吧。
17:46
What the world世界 needs需求 now
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我们的世界需要的是,
17:48
is to restore恢复 the authority权威 to make common共同 choices选择.
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恢复机构应该有做选择的权利。
17:51
It's the only way to get our freedom自由 back,
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这是我们夺回自由的唯一的方法。
17:55
and it's the only way to release发布 the energy能源 and passion
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这也是我们唯一需要释放能量和激情的地方
17:58
needed需要 so that we can meet遇到 the challenges挑战
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来克服我们的时代面临的挑战。
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of our time. Thank you.
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谢谢你们。
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(Applause掌声)
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(掌声)
Translated by Chunlei Chang
Reviewed by Miao Li

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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Philip K. Howard - Legal activist
Philip K. Howard is the founder of Common Good, a drive to overhaul the US legal system. His new book is 'The Rule of Nobody.'

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We love to laugh at America’s warning-label culture (the bag of airline peanuts that says Caution: Contains Nuts). But more troubling are the everyday acts of silence and loss promoted by the fear of being sued. Your doctor might not speak to you frankly; your kids’ principal might not feel he has the right to remove bad teachers.

Attorney Philip K. Howard founded the nonpartisan group Common Good to combat this culture and reform several key areas of our legal system. Among Common Good’s suggestions: specialized health care courts, which would give lower but smarter awards, and a project with the NYC Board of Ed and the Teachers Union to overhaul the disciplinary system in New York public schools. His new book is The Rule of Nobody: Saving America from Dead Laws and Broken Government.

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