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Mary Roach: 10 things you didn't know about orgasm
Mary Roach: 10 stvari koje niste znali o orgazmu
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Autorica hita "Bonk", Mary Roach pretresa opskurna znanstvena istraživanja, neka i stoljećima stara, te izvodi deset iznenađujućih tvrdnji o seksualnom vrhuncu, od bizarnih do urnebesno smiješnih. (Ovo je predavanje namijenjeno odraslima. Predlaže se diskretno gledanje.)
Mary Roach - Writer
Death, the afterlife, and now sex -- Mary Roach tackles the most pondered and least understood conundrums that have baffled humans for centuries. (She's funny, too.) Full bio
Death, the afterlife, and now sex -- Mary Roach tackles the most pondered and least understood conundrums that have baffled humans for centuries. (She's funny, too.) Full bio
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Alright. I'm going to show you a couple of images
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No, dobro. Pokazat ću vam nekoliko fotografija
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from a very diverting paper
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iz vrlo zabavnog članka
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in The Journal of Ultrasound in Medicine.
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iz časopisa o ultrazvuku u medicini.
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I'm going to go way out on a limb and say that it is the most diverting paper
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Izložit ću se riziku i reći da je to najzabavniji članak
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ever published in The Journal of Ultrasound in Medicine.
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ikad objavljen u tom časopisu.
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The title is "Observations of In-Utero Masturbation."
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Naslov mu je „Promatranje masturbacije u maternici.“
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(Laughter)
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(smijeh)
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Okay. Now on the left you can see the hand -- that's the big arrow --
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Slijeva možete vidjeti ruku. To je velika strelica.
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and the penis on the right. The hand hovering.
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A desno je penis. Ruka lebdi.
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And over here we have,
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A ovdje imamo,
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in the words of radiologist Israel Meisner,
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prema riječima radiologa Israela Meisnera,
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"The hand grasping the penis in a fashion resembling masturbation movements."
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„Ruku koja dohvaća penis na način koji podsjeća na masturbaciju.“
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Bear in mind this was an ultrasound,
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Vodite računa da je to bio ultrazvučni snimak.
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so it would have been moving images.
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Dakle, promatrali su pokretnu sliku.
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Orgasm is a reflex of the autonomic nervous system.
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Orgazam je refleks autonomnog živčanog sustava.
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Now this is the part of the nervous system
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To je dio živčanog sustava
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that deals with the things that we don't consciously control,
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koji se bavi stvarima kojima ne upravljamo svjesno.
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like digestion, heart rate and sexual arousal.
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Kao što su probava, brzina kucanja srca ili seksualno uzbuđenje.
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And the orgasm reflex can be triggered
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A orgazam može pokrenuti
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by a surprisingly broad range of input.
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začuđujuće širok raspon podražaja.
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Genital stimulation. Duh.
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Podraživanje genitalija. Da, i ?
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But also Kinsey interviewed a woman
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No, Kinsey je intervjuirao ženu
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who could be brought to orgasm
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koju se moglo dovesti do orgazma
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by having someone stroke her eyebrow.
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gladeći joj obrvu.
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People with spinal cord injuries,
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Ljudi s povrijeđenom leđnom moždinom
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like paraplegias, quadriplegias,
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poput paraplegičara ili kvadriplegičara,
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will often develop a very, very sensitive area
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često razviju vrlo vrlo osjetljivo područje
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right above the level of their injury,
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odmah iznad mjesta povrede.
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wherever that is.
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Ma gdje to bilo.
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There is such a thing as a knee orgasm in the literature.
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U literaturi je poznat i orgazam koljena.
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I think the most curious one that I came across
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Mislim da mi je najneobičniji slučaj na koji sam naišla
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was a case report of a woman
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bio izvještaj o ženi
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who had an orgasm every time she brushed her teeth.
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koja je doživljavala orgazam svaki put kad je prala zube.
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(Laughter)
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(smijeh)
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This was something in the complex
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Nešto u složenoj osjetno-motoričkoj
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sensory-motor action of brushing her teeth
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aktivnosti pri pranju zuba
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was triggering orgasm.
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je poticalo orgazam.
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And she went to a neurologist who was fascinated.
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Otišla je neurologu koji je bio zapanjen.
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He checked to see if it was something in the toothpaste,
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Provjerio je da nije nešto u zubnoj pasti.
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but no -- it happened with any brand.
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Ali ne, dešavalo se sa svakom vrstom.
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They stimulated her gums
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Podražavali su njene desni čačkalicom,
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with a toothpick, to see if that was doing it.
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da vide mogu li postići isti efekt.
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No. It was the whole, you know, motion.
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Ali ne. Trebao je cijeli pokret.
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And the amazing thing to me is that
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Čudesno mi je kad pomislim
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now you would think this woman would like have
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da je ta žena morala imati
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excellent oral hygiene.
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savršenu higijenu usne šupljine.
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(Laughter)
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(smijeh)
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Sadly she -- this is what it said in the journal paper --
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Nažalost, ona je – tako piše u članku –
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"She believed that she was possessed by demons
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„vjerovala da je opsjednuta demonima“,
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and switched to mouthwash for her oral care."
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pa je zamijenila zubnu pastu vodicom za ispiranje.
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It's so sad.
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To je tužno.
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(Laughter)
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(smijeh)
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I interviewed, when I was working on the book,
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Intervjuirala sam, dok sam pripremala knjigu,
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I interviewed a woman who can think herself to orgasm.
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ženu koja se do orgazma mogla dovesti samo razmišljanjem.
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She was part of a study at Rutgers University.
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Sudjelovala je u istraživanju na Sveučilištu Rutgers.
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You gotta love that. Rutgers.
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To morate voljeti. Rutgers
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So I interviewed her in Oakland,
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Dakle, razgovarale smo u Oaklandu
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in a sushi restaurant.
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u japanskom restoranu.
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And I said, "So, could you do it right here?"
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Pitala sam ju: „Dakle, možete to napraviti sad odmah ovdje?“
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And she said, "Yeah, but you know I'd rather finish my meal if you don't mind."
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Odgovorila je: “Aha, ali radije bih prvo pojela, ako nemate ništa protiv.“
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(Laughter)
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(smijeh)
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But afterwards she was kind enough to demonstrate
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No, poslije je bila ljubazna i demonstrirala mi
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on a bench outside.
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vani na klupi.
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It was remarkable. It took about one minute.
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Bilo je nevjerojatno. Trebalo joj je oko jedne minute.
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And I said to her,
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Pitala sam ju:
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"Are you just doing this all the time?"
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„Radite li to stalno?“
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(Laughter)
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(smijeh)
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She said, "No. Honestly when I get home I'm usually too tired."
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„Ne“, odgovorila je. „Iskreno, kad dođem kući obično sam preumorna.“
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(Laughter)
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(smijeh)
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She said that the last time she had done it
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Rekla mi je da je to posljednji put učinila
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was on the Disneyland tram.
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u vlakiću u Diznilendu.
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(Laughter)
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(smijeh)
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The headquarters for orgasm, along the spinal nerve,
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Centar za orgazam je u korijenu zdjeličnog živca
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is something called the sacral nerve root, which is back here.
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pri leđnoj moždini. To je ovdje otraga.
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And if you trigger, if you stimulate with an electrode,
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Ako elektrodom podražimo pravu točku,
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the precise spot, you will trigger an orgasm.
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dogodit će se orgazam.
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And it is a fact that you can trigger spinal reflexes
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A poznata je činjenica da se mogu potaknuti
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in dead people --
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refleksne radnje kod mrtvih ljudi.
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a certain kind of dead person, a beating-heart cadaver.
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Posebna vrsta mrtvih ljudi: kojima srce još uvijek radi.
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Now this is somebody who is brain-dead,
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Njihov je mozak mrtav,
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legally dead, definitely checked out,
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pravno su mrtvi,
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but is being kept alive on a respirator,
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ali ih održavaju na respiratoru
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so that their organs will be oxygenated
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tako da organi žive
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for transplantation.
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kako bi mogli biti presađeni.
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Now in one of these brain-dead people,
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Kad se takvom čovjeku
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if you trigger the right spot,
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podraži prava točka,
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you will see something every now and then.
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ponekad se dogodi jedan pokret.
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There is a reflex called the Lazarus reflex.
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Taj refleks zovu Lazarov refleks.
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And this is -- I'll demonstrate as best I can, not being dead.
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Probat ću ga pokazati najbolje što mogu, s obzirom da nisam mrtva.
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It's like this. You trigger the spot.
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To izgleda ovako. Podražite točku.
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The dead guy, or gal, goes ... like that.
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A mrtvac učini … ovako.
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Very unsettling for people working in pathology labs.
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Prilično uznemirujuće za ljude koji rade na patologiji.
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(Laughter)
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(smijeh)
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Now if you can trigger the Lazarus reflex in a dead person,
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No, ako možemo potaknuti Lazarov refleks kod mrtvaca,
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why not the orgasm reflex?
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zašto ne bismo mogli orgazam?
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I asked this question to a brain death expert,
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Pitala sam to pitanje stručnjakinju za smrt mozga,
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Stephanie Mann, who was foolish enough to return my emails.
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Stephanie Mann, koja je bila dovoljno neoprezna da odgovori na moj e-mail.
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(Laughter)
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(smijeh)
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I said, "So, could you conceivably
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Pitala sam ju: „Može li se
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trigger an orgasm in a dead person?"
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potaknuti orgazam kod mrtve osobe?“
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She said, "Yes, if the sacral nerve is being oxygenated,
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Odgovorila je: „Da, ako je sakralni živac hranjen kisikom.
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you conceivably could."
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Moglo bi se“
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Obviously it wouldn't be as much fun for the person.
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Očito ne bi bilo previše zabavno mrtvoj osobi.
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But it would be an orgasm --
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Ali svejedno bi to bio
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(Laughter)
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(smijeh)
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nonetheless.
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orgazam.
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I actually suggested to -- there is a researcher at the University of Alabama
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Zapravo sam predložila – postoji istraživačica na Sveučilištu Alabama
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who does orgasm research.
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koja se bavi istraživanjem orgazma.
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I said to her, "You should do an experiment.
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Rekla sam joj: „Trebala bi napraviti eksperiment.
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You know? You can get cadavers if you work at a university."
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Znaš? Možeš nabaviti leš kad radiš na sveučilištu.
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I said, "You should actually do this."
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Stvarno bi trebala to napraviti.“
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She said, "You get the human subjects review board approval for this one."
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Odgovorila mi je: „Onda ti dobij odobrenje povjerenstva za eksperimente na ljudima.“
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(Laughter)
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(smijeh)
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According to 1930s marriage manual author,
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U svom priručniku za brak, 1930. godine
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Theodoor van de Velde,
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Theodoor Van de Velde je napisao da se
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a slight seminal odor can be detected on the breath of a woman
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lagani miris sperme može primijetiti u dahu žene
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within about an hour after sexual intercourse.
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oko jedan sat nakon seksualnog odnosa.
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Theodoor van de Velde was something of a semen connoisseur.
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On je bio svojevrstan znalac za spermu.
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(Laughter)
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(smijeh)
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This is a guy writing a book, "Ideal Marriage," you know.
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On je napisao knjigu „Idealni brak“, znate.
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Very heavy hetero guy.
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Vrlo heteroseksualni tip.
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But he wrote in this book, "Ideal Marriage" --
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Ali je u knjizi napisao
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he said that he could differentiate between the semen of a young man,
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da može razlikovati spermu mladića,
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which he said had a fresh, exhilarating smell,
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za koju kaže da ima svjež, živahan miris
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and the semen of mature men,
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i spermu zrelog muškarca
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whose semen smelled quote,
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koja miriše, citiram:
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"Remarkably like that of the flowers of the Spanish chestnut.
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„Iznenađujuće slično cvijetu španjolskog kestena.
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Sometimes quite freshly floral,
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Ponekad svježe, cvjetno,
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and then again sometimes extremely pungent."
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a opet ponekad vrlo jetko.“
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(Laughter)
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(smijeh)
06:30
Okay. In 1999, in the state of Israel,
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1999. u Izraelu je
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a man began hiccupping.
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jedan čovjek počeo štucati.
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And this was one of those cases that went on and on.
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I to je bio jedan od onih slučajeva koji nije prestajao.
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He tried everything his friends suggested.
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Pokušao je sve što su mu prijatelji predložili.
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Nothing seemed to help.
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I ništa nije pomoglo.
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Days went by. At a certain point, the man,
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Dani su prolazili. U jednom je trenutku,
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still hiccupping, had sex with his wife.
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i dalje štucajući, imao seks sa svojom ženom.
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And lo and behold, the hiccups went away.
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I na opće čuđenje, štucanje je prestalo.
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He told his doctor, who published a case report
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Rekao je to svom liječniku, koji je to objavio
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in a Canadian medical journal under the title,
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u kanadskom medicinskom časopisu s naslovom
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"Sexual Intercourse as a Potential Treatment
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„Seksualni odnos kao mogući lijek
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for Intractable Hiccups."
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za nezaustavljivo štucanje.“
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I love this article because at a certain point they suggested
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Drag mi je taj članak jer na jednom mjestu predlažu
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that unattached hiccuppers could try masturbation.
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da štucači koji nisu u vezi mogu probati masturbiranje kao rješenje.
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(Laughter)
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(smijeh)
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I love that because there is like a whole demographic: unattached hiccuppers.
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Postoji cijela demografska podskupina. Štucači koji nisu u vezi.
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(Laughter)
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(smijeh)
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Married, single, unattached hiccupper.
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Oženjeni. Samci. Slobodni štucač.
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In the 1900s, early 1900s
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Ranih 1900tih,
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gynecologists, a lot of gynecologists believed
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ginekolozi, mnogi ginekolozi, su smatrali
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that when a woman has an orgasm
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da orgazam ženi služi
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the contractions serve to suck the semen up through the cervix
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da kontrakcijama usisava spermu kroz grlić maternice
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and sort of deliver it really quickly to the egg,
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i na neki je način brzo isporuči jajašcu.
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thereby upping the odds of conception.
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I na taj način povećava šansu oplodnje.
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It was called the "upsuck" theory.
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Zvali su to „teorijom usisa“.
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(Laughter)
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(smijeh)
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If you go all the way back to Hippocrates,
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Još od Hipokrata
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physicians believed that orgasm in women was not just
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liječnici su smatrali da je orgazam žene
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helpful for conception, but necessary.
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ne samo koristan, već i nužan za oplodnju.
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Doctors back then were routinely telling men
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Liječnici su tada rutinski poučavali muškarce
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the importance of pleasuring their wives.
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o važnosti da zadovolje ženu.
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Marriage-manual author and semen-sniffer
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Autor bračnog priručnika i njuškać sperme
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Theodoor van de Velde --
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Theodoor Van de Velde
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(Laughter)
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(smijeh)
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has a line in his book.
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piše o tome u svojoj knjizi.
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I loved this guy. I got a lot of mileage out of Theodoor van de Velde.
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Obožavam tog tipa. Imam puno materijala od njega.
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He had this line in his book
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U svojoj knjizi piše,
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that supposedly comes from the Habsburg Monarchy,
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navodno to dolazi iz Habsburške monarhije.
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where there was an empress Maria Theresa,
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Marija Terezija je navodno imala probleme
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who was having trouble conceiving.
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začeti dijete.
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And apparently the royal court physician said to her,
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Navodno joj je kraljevski liječnik rekao:
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"I am of the opinion
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„Smatram da prije snošaja
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that the vulva of your most sacred majesty
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treba rukom stimulirati
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be titillated for some time prior to intercourse."
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vulvu vašeg Kraljevskog visočanstva.“
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(Laughter)
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(smijeh)
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It's apparently, I don't know, on the record somewhere.
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Navodno je to, ja to ne znam, negdje zapisano.
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Masters and Johnson: now we're moving forward to the 1950s.
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Masters i Johnson: sad se selimo u 1950te.
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Masters and Johnson were upsuck skeptics,
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Masters i Johnson su bili skeptični prema “teoriji usisa”.
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which is also really fun to say.
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Zabavno je o tome pričati.
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They didn't buy it.
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Oni u to nisu vjerovali.
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And they decided, being Masters and Johnson,
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I odlučili su, kavi su već bili,
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that they would get to the bottom of it.
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da to istraže do kraja.
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They brought women into the lab -- I think it was five women --
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Doveli su žene u laboratorij. Mislim da su odabrali pet žena.
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and outfitted them with cervical caps
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Postavili su im kapice na grlić maternice
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containing artificial semen.
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u kojima je bila umjetna sperma.
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And in the artificial semen
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U umjetnoj spermi je bila tvar
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was a radio-opaque substance,
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koja je neprozirna za rendgenske zrake,
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such that it would show up on an X-ray.
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pa se lako uočava na rendgenskoj snimci.
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This is the 1950s.
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To se dešava u 50tima.
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Anyway these women sat in front of an X-ray device.
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Dakle, žene su sjedile pred rendgenskim aparatom.
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And they masturbated.
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I masturbirale.
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And Masters and Johnson looked to see if the semen was being sucked up.
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A Masters i Johnson su promatrali da vide hoće li sperma biti usisana.
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Did not find any evidence of upsuck.
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Nisu našli dokaza za teoriju usisa.
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You may be wondering, "How do you make artificial semen?"
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Možda se pitate: „Kako se radi umjetna sperma?“
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(Laughter)
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(smijeh)
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I have an answer for you. I have two answers.
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Imam odgovor za vas. Imam dva odgovora.
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You can use flour and water, or cornstarch and water.
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Možete koristiti brašno i vodu ili škrob i vodu.
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I actually found three separate recipes in the literature.
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Zapravo sam u literaturi našla tri različita recepta.
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(Laughter)
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My favorite being the one that says --
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Moj omiljeni je onaj koji kaže –
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you know, they have the ingredients listed,
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znate, imaju popis sastojaka,
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and then in a recipe it will say, for example,
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a onda u receptu piše, na primjer,
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"Yield: two dozen cupcakes."
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„Za 20 kolačića.“
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This one said, "Yield: one ejaculate."
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U ovom receptu piše: „Za jedan ejakulat.“
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(Laughter)
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(smijeh)
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There's another way that orgasm might boost fertility.
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Postoji drugi način na koji orgazam može poboljšati plodnost.
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This one involves men.
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Ovaj uključuje muškarce.
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Sperm that sit around in the body for a week or more
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Sperma koja stoji u tijelu tjedan dana i više,
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start to develop abnormalities
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počinje se deformirati
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that make them less effective at head-banging their way
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zbog čega su manje uspješni
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into the egg.
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u jurišu prema jajašcu.
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British sexologist Roy Levin
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Britanski seksolog Roy Levin
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has speculated that this is perhaps why men
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spekulira da je to možda uzrokom zašto su muškarci
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evolved to be such enthusiastic and frequent masturbators.
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tako entuzijastični i česti masturbatori.
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He said, "If I keep tossing myself off
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Kaže: „Ako se ispraznim,
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I get fresh sperm being made."
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nova, svježa sperma se proizvede.“
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Which I thought was an interesting idea, theory.
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To mi se čini kao zanimljiva ideja, teorija.
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So now you have an evolutionary excuse.
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Dakle, sad imate evolucijsku ispriku.
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(Laughter)
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(smijeh)
10:34
Okay.
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Dobro.
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(Laughter)
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(smijeh)
10:39
Alrighty. There is considerable evidence for upsuck in the animal kingdom --
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U redu. Postoji izvjesni dokaz za teoriju usisa u životinjskom carstvu.
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pigs, for instance.
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Svinje, na primjer.
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In Denmark, the Danish National Committee for Pig Production
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U Danskoj, Danski nacionalni komitet za proizvodnju svinja
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found out that if you
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je otkrio da ako se
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sexually stimulate a sow while you artificially inseminate her,
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krmače seksualno stimuliraju dok ih se umjetno oplođuje,
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you will see a six-percent increase in the farrowing rate,
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očekuje se 6% povećanje
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which is the number of piglets produced.
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broja odojaka.
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So they came up with this plan, this five-point stimulation plan
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Pa su smislili plan. Plan stimulacije krmača
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for the sows.
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u pet točaka.
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And they had the farmers -- there is posters they put in the barn,
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I oni su farmerima – postoje posteri koje su stavili u svinjce,
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and they have a DVD.
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a napravili su i DVD.
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And I got a copy of this DVD.
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Nabavila sam kopiju tog DVD-a.
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(Laughter)
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(smijeh)
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This is my unveiling, because I am going to show you a clip.
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I sad ću ga prikazati. Pokazat ću vam isječak iz njega.
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(Laughter)
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(smijeh)
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So uh, okay.
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Dakle, uf, OK.
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Now here we go in to the -- la la la, off to work.
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Evo ga, ide na posao.
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It all looks very innocent.
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Izgleda vrlo nevino.
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He's going to be doing things with his hands
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On će rukama raditi ono
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that the boar would use his snout, lacking hands. Okay.
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što krmak radi njuškom, jer nema ruke.
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(Laughter)
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(smijeh)
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This is it. The boar has a very odd courtship repertoire.
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Krmak ima neobičan način udvaranja.
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(Laughter)
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(smijeh)
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This is to mimic the weight of the boar.
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Ovo imitira težinu krmka.
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(Laughter)
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(smijeh)
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You should know, the clitoris of the pig, inside the vagina.
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Morate znati da je klitoris kod svinja unutar vagine.
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So this may be sort of titillating for her. Here we go.
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Tako da bi joj ovo trebalo biti uzbudljivo. Krećemo.
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(Laughter)
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And the happy result.
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I radosni rezultat.
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(Applause)
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(pljesak)
12:24
I love this video.
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Obožavam ovaj video.
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There is a point in this video, towards the beginning
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Na jednom mjestu u videu, negdje na početku,
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where they zoom in for a close up of his hand with his wedding ring,
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približe njegovu ruku na kojoj se vidi vjenčani prsten,
12:30
as if to say, "It's okay, it's just his job. He really does like women."
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kao da žele reći: „To je u redu. To mu je samo posao. On zapravo voli žene.“
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(Laughter)
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(smijeh)
12:39
Okay. Now I said -- when I was in Denmark, my host was named Anne Marie.
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Kad sam bila u Danskoj, moj domaćin je bila Anne Marie.
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And I said, "So why don't you just stimulate the clitoris of the pig?
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Pitala sam: „Zašto jednostavno ne stimulirate klitoris svinje?
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Why don't you have the farmers do that?
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Zašto ne kažete seljacima da to rade?
12:50
That's not one of your five steps."
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To nije ni u jednom od vaših pet koraka.“
12:52
She said -- I have to read you what she said, because I love it.
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Moram vam pročitati što je rekla, jer to obožavam.
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She said, "It was a big hurdle
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Kaže: „Bilo je teško
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just to get farmers to touch underneath the vulva.
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nagovoriti seljake da samo dotaknu vulvu.
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So we thought, let's not mention the clitoris right now."
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Pa smo mislili da je za početak bolje ni ne spominjati klitoris.“
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(Laughter)
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(smijeh)
13:07
Shy but ambitious pig farmers, however, can purchase a -- this is true --
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Sramežljivi, ali ambiciozni farmeri, međutim mogu kupiti – to je istina –
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a sow vibrator,
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vibrator za krmače,
13:12
that hangs on the sperm feeder tube to vibrate.
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koji se ugradi na cijev za dovod sperme.
13:14
Because, as I mentioned,
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Jer, kao što sam već spomenula,
13:17
the clitoris is inside the vagina.
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klitoris je unutar vagine.
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So possibly, you know, a little more arousing than it looks.
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Dakle, možda, malo uzbudljivije nego što to izgleda.
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And I also said to her,
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Također sam joj rekla:
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"Now these sows. I mean, you may have noticed there,
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„Možda ste primijetili da krmače
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The sow doesn't look to be in the throes of ecstasy."
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baš i ne padaju u neku ekstazu.“
13:29
And she said, you can't make that conclusion,
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„To ne možete samo tako zaključiti“ odgovorila mi je.
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because animals don't register
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„Životinje ne pokazuju ni bol ni užitak
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pain or pleasure on their faces in the same way that we do.
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na svojim licima, kao što to mi radimo.
13:36
They tend to -- pigs, for example, are more like dogs.
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Svinje, na primjer, su više poput pasa.
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They use the upper half of the face; the ears are very expressive.
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Koriste gornju polovinu njuške. Uši su vrlo izražajne.
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So you're not really sure what's going on with the pig.
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Dakle, ne možete biti sasvim sigurni što se dešava sa svinjom.
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Primates, on the other hand, we use our mouths more.
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Primati, s druge strane, mi više koristimo usta.
13:50
This is the ejaculation face of the stump-tailed macaque.
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Ovo je lice makau majmuna prilikom ejakulacije.
13:54
(Laughter)
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(smijeh)
13:56
And, interestingly, this has been observed in female macaques,
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Zanimljivo je da je to primijećeno kod ženki makaua.
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but only when mounting another female.
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Ali samo kad jaše na drugoj ženki.
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(Laughter)
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(smijeh)
14:07
Masters and Johnson, in the 1950s, they decided,
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Masters i Johnson, 1950tih, su odlučili
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okay, we're going to figure out the entire human sexual response cycle,
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u redu, idemo otkriti cijeli ciklus ljudske seksualne reakcije.
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from arousal, all the way through orgasm, in men and women --
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Od uzbuđenja, sve do orgazma, kod muškaraca i žena.
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everything that happens in the human body.
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Sve što se dešava u ljudskom tijelu.
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Okay, with women, a lot of this is happening inside.
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Dobro, kod žena puno tog se dešava unutar tijela.
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This did not stop Masters and Johnson.
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Ali to ih nije zaustavilo.
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They developed an artificial coition machine.
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Razvili su umjetnu mašinu za snošaj.
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This is basically a penis camera on a motor.
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Zapravo se radi o kameri oblika penisa na motoru.
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There is a phallus,
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Ima falus,
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clear acrylic phallus, with a camera and a light source,
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prozirni plastični falus, izvor svjetla,
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attached to a motor that is kind of going like this.
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priključeno na motor koji se ovako kreće.
14:40
And the woman would have sex with it.
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I žene su se s njim seksale.
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That is what they would do. Pretty amazing.
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To su radile. Prilično zapanjujuće.
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Sadly, this device has been dismantled.
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Na žalost, taj su uređaj rastavili.
14:47
This just kills me, not because I wanted to use it --
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To me izjeda. Ne zato što bih ga htjela koristiti.
14:49
I wanted to see it.
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Htjela sam ga vidjeti.
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(Laughter)
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(smijeh)
14:55
One fine day
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Jednog lijepog dana je
14:58
Alfred Kinsey decided
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Alfred Kinsey odlučio
15:01
to calculate the average distance traveled by ejaculated semen.
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izračunati prosječnu udaljenost koju prijeđe izbačeni spermij.
15:06
This was not idle curiosity.
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Nije to bila znatiželja iz dosade.
15:08
Doctor Kinsey had heard --
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Doktor Kinsey je čuo,
15:12
and there was a theory kind of going around at the time, this being the 1940s --
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a to je bila kao teorija u to doba 1940tih,
15:15
that the force with which
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da je sila kojom se
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semen is thrown against the cervix
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izbacuje sperma prema maternici
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was a factor in fertility.
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važan faktor plodnosti.
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Kinsey thought it was bunk, so he got to work.
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Kinsey je mislio da to nije točno. Pa se primio posla.
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He got together in his lab
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Doveo je u svoj laboratorij
15:28
300 men, a measuring tape, and a movie camera.
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300 muškaraca, metar i filmsku kameru.
15:33
(Laughter)
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(smijeh)
15:35
And in fact he found
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I utvrdio je
15:37
that in three quarters of the men
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da u tri četvrtine muškaraca
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the stuff just kind of slopped out.
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stvar zapravo samo iscuri.
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It wasn't spurted or thrown or ejected under great force.
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Nije ištrcana, izbačena, ili ispaljena velikom silom.
15:46
However, the record holder
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Iako se rekorderova
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landed just shy of the eight-foot mark, which is impressive.
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prizemljila na gotovo 2,5 metra. Što je impresivno.
15:52
(Laughter)
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(smijeh)
15:54
(Applause)
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(pljesak)
15:55
Yes. Exactly.
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Da. Točno.
15:57
(Laughter)
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(smijeh)
15:58
Sadly, he's anonymous. His name is not mentioned.
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Na žalost, on je anoniman. Njegovo se ime ne spominje.
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In his write-up,
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U svom zapisu
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in his write-up of this experiment in his book,
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o ovom eksperimentu, u svojoj knjizi,
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Kinsey wrote,
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Kinsey je napisao:
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"Two sheets were laid down to protect the oriental carpets."
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„Na pod su stavljene dvije plahte, da zaštite orijentalni tepih.“
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(Laughter)
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(smijeh)
16:16
Which is my second favorite line
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To je moja druga najdraža rečenica
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in the entire oeuvre of Alfred Kinsey.
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u cijelom opusu Alfreda Kinseya.
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My favorite being, "Cheese crumbs spread before a pair of copulating rats
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Moja najdraža je: „Mrvice sira koje se stave pred štakore u seksualnom odnosu
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will distract the female, but not the male."
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će odvući pažnju ženke, ali ne i muškarca.“
16:27
(Laughter)
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(smijeh)
16:29
Thank you very much.
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Hvala vam.
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(Applause)
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(pljesak)
16:35
Thanks!
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Hvala.
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Mary Roach - WriterDeath, the afterlife, and now sex -- Mary Roach tackles the most pondered and least understood conundrums that have baffled humans for centuries. (She's funny, too.)
Why you should listen
Freelance writer and humorist turned accidental science journalist Mary Roach likes to ask the questions we all wonder about but are usually too polite to mention. What happens after we die, anyway? How fast do cadavers rot? Can a corpse have an orgasm?
Writing the Health & Body column for Salon.com quickened her interest in the dead -- that, and looking at the hit count for her columns on cadavers. Her books Stiff and Spook sprung out of research done for a proposed Salon column called the Dead Beat (sadly, it was killed). Her most recent book, Bonk, is a romp through the current landscape of gynecology, sex research and the adult novelty industry.
In addition to her dry (and sometimes silly) wit, Roach has a penchant for funny voices, faking her way through interviews with expert scientists, and wheedling her way into strange locales, among them a dildo factory and under the business end of an ultrasound wand during coitus.
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