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Deborah Scranton: An Iraq war movie crowd-sourced from soldiers
Deborah Scranton despre "Casete de razboi'
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Devorah Scranton, cineast, vorbeste despre documentarul sau "Casete de razboi" si arata inregistrari din acesta, camerele video fiind in mana soldatilor ce lupta pentru Iraq.
Deborah Scranton - Filmmaker
The director of the award-winning documentary The War Tapes, Deborah Scranton is committed to using new technology to give people power to tell their own stories. Full bio
The director of the award-winning documentary The War Tapes, Deborah Scranton is committed to using new technology to give people power to tell their own stories. Full bio
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00:26
Three years ago, I got a phone call, based on an earlier film I had made,
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Acum trei ani, am primit un apel, bazat pe un film facut cu ceva timp in urma de mine,
00:29
with an offer to embed the New Hampshire National Guard.
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cu o oferta de a incorpora Garda Nationala New Hampshire.
00:33
My idea -- and literally, I woke up in the middle of the night,
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Ideea mea -- la propriu, m-am trezit in mijlocul noptii,
00:36
and we've all have those moments. You know, you go to sleep --
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si toti avem acele moment.
00:38
I was excited, with this phone call.
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Am fost entuziasmata, pentru acest apel.
00:41
I was thinking, I just finished making another film about World War II vets,
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Ma gandeam, ca abia terminasem de facut un film despre veteranii din Al doilea razboi mondial.
00:44
and I realized I'd gotten to know their stories,
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si mi-am dat seama ca am reusit sa le stiu povestile,
00:46
and I realized this was a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity
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si am mai realizat ca este o oportunitate unica in viata
00:50
to tell a warrior's story as it unfolded.
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sa spun povestea unui razboinic cand aceasta are loc.
00:52
So I went to bed that night pretty excited.
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Si am mers in pat in acea noapte entuziasmata.
00:55
Not sure of all the details, but excited.
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Nesigura de toate detaliile, dar entuziasmata.
01:00
It wasn't at four in the morning, but it was closer to midnight.
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Nu a fost patru dimineata, dar a fost aproape de miezul noptii.
01:02
Woke straight up. Wide-awake as could be.
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M-am trezit rapid. Cat de treaza s-ar putea.
01:04
And I had this idea: what if I could, in effect, virtually embed,
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Si aveam aceasta idee : cum ar fi daca as reda efectul in mod virtual?
01:07
and create a permeable relationship with the soldiers?
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Si sa creez o relatie permeabila cu soldatii?
01:10
To tell the story from the inside out, versus the outside in?
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Sa spun povestea din interior, contra celei din afara catre interior?
01:14
So, I called back Major Heilshorn,
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Asa ca l-am sunat inapoi pe Maiorul Heilsborn,
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who's the public affairs officer of the New Hampshire National Guard.
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care este ofiterul de Relatii publice de la Garda Nationala New Hapshire.
01:18
And he knew me, so I was like, "Greg?"
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Ma cunostea asa ca i-am spus "Greg?"
01:21
He's like, "Yes, Deborah?"
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Si el a spus, "Da, Deborah?"
01:23
Told him my idea, and you know,
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I-am spus ideea mea, si stiti,
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he is one of the bravest men in the world,
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este unul din cei mai viteji oameni din lume,
01:28
as is General Blair, who, in the end, gave me permission to try this experiment.
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ca si Generalul Blair, care mi-a dat in cele din urma permisiunea de a face acest experiment.
01:33
Within 10 days, I was down at Fort Dix.
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Pana in 10 zile eram la Fort Dix.
01:35
He gave me my pick of units.
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M-a lasat sa-mi aleg unitatea.
01:37
I picked one unit -- Charlie Company, Third of the 172nd,
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Am ales o unitate -- Compania lui Charlie, A treia din cele 172,
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they're mountain infantry -- for two reasons.
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acestia fiind infanterie de munte -- pentru doua motive.
01:42
One, they're infantry.
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Unu, sunt de infanterie,
01:44
Number two, they were going to be based at LSA Anaconda,
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Numarul doi, vor avea tabara la LSA Anaconda,
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so I knew they would have Internet access.
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deci am stiut ca vor avea acces la internet.
01:49
The caveat for my access was I had to get the soldiers to volunteer.
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Singura cerinta pentru accesul meu era ca acesti soldati sa-si ofere serviciile din propria initiativa.
01:51
This was a big thing that
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Acest lucru a fost un lucru greu.
01:53
I think when Major H told me,
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Cred ca atunci cand Maiorul H. mi-a spus asta
01:55
I wasn't really totally gathering what that would mean.
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nu asimilasem cu totul ce a spus.
01:58
So what that meant was, when I went down to Fort Dix,
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Deci, cand am mers la Fort Dix,
02:00
I had to hop out in front of 180 guys and tell them of my vision.
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trebuia sa apar in fata a 180 de barbati si sa le spun viziunea mea.
02:04
You can imagine the hailstorm of questions I got.
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Va puteti imagina ce furtuna de intrebari am primit.
02:06
The opening one was,
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Cea de inceput a fost,
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"What the fuck do you know about the National Guard?"
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"Ce dracu stii tu de Garda Nationala?"
02:11
I started with the 1607 Massachusetts Bay Colony Pequot Indian Wars.
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Am inceput cu Razboilele Indiene Massachusetts Bay Colony Pequod din 1607.
02:16
Gave them about a nine minute response,
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Le-am dat un raspuns de vreo 9 minute,
02:19
and there we went.
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si apoi am continuat.
02:21
So, I'd like to show the clip of the film.
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Si as vrea sa va arat un clip din film.
02:24
It's our trailer, because I know, obviously you guys are busy,
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Este filmuletul nostru de prezentare, pentru ca e de inteles ca multi sunteti ocupati --
02:27
many of you may not have had a chance to see it.
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multi dintre voi nereusind poate sa-l vedeti.
02:29
So, I want to show the trailer,
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Deci va voi arata filmuletul de prezentare,
02:31
and then I'm going to take apart one scene in detail.
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apoi voi diseca fiecare scena in detaliu.
02:34
If we could roll?
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S-ar putea difuza?
02:43
(Video) Stephen Pink: This is Sergeant Stephen Pink.
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Pink: Aici este Sergentul Stephen Pink.
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Michael Moriarty: Specialist Michael Moriarty.
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Moriarty: Specialist Michael Moriarty/
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Zack Bazzi: Do I really want to go? Probably not.
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Bazzi: Chiar vreau sa merg? Probabil nu.
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Soldier: We're not supposed to talk to the media.
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Soldat: Nu ar trebui sa vorbim cu media.
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SP: I'm not the media, dammit!
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P: nu sunt media, la naiba!
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MM: The day is here. Life will change.
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M: A venit ZIUA. Viata se va schimba.
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Voice: The real deal, man! Narrator: You ready?
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Soldat: Adevarata experienta, omule! Esti pregatit?
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Soldier: Bring it on! Narrator: You ready? Voice 2: Iraq, here we come!
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Sa te vad! Esti Pregatit? Iraq , venim spre tine!
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ZB: Every soldier eventually wants to go in combat.
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B: Orice soldat in cele din urma vrea sa mearga la lupta.
03:08
It's natural instinct.
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Este un instinct natural.
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SP: If you let fear get to you,
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P: Daca lasi frica sa te doboare,
03:11
then you're not going to be doing your job.
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atunci nu iti vei face slujba.
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MM: Every single time you go out there, there's attacks.
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M: De fiecare data cand mergi acolo, exista atacuri.
03:15
It's unbelievable.
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Este incredibil.
03:19
ZB: Hey, Nestor, your ass crack is right in my face.
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B: Hey Nestor, crapatura fundului tau e exact in fata mea.
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Soldiers: IV! Are we on fire? IV!
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Soldat: IV. Suntem atacati?
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Man down! Man down!
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Om doborat. Om doborat.
03:30
MM: Keep going, brother. You wanna play?
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M: Continua, frate. Vrei sa te joci?
03:33
Michael Moriarty's Wife: It's really hard for him to not have his dad.
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Sotia lui Moriaty: II este foarte greu fara tatal sau.
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MM: This little kid is in the middle of a war zone.
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M: Acest copil este in mijlocul zonei de razboi.
03:42
Stephen Pink's Girlfriend: In the beginning, he's like, "Write something dirty!"
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Prietena lui Pink: La inceput, era ceva de genul, "Scrie ceva murdar!"
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George W. Bush: The world's newest democracy.
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Geoge W. Bush: Noua Democratia mondiala.
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MM: They're shooting at me.
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M: Trag in mine.
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SP: You don't put 150,000 troops in there,
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P: Nu pui 150 000 de trupe de soldati aici
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and say we're there to create democracy.
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si spui ca suntem aici pentru a crea democratia.
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Soldier: We've got a drive through window at Burger King now.
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Soldat: Avem o intrare la Burger King acum.
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SP: We're here to create money.
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P: Suntem aici pentru a crea bani.
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MM: I support George Bush. We're not there for the oil.
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M: Il sustin pe George Bush. Nu suntem aici pentru petrol.
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Jon Baril: The worst thing in my life.
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Jon Baril: Cel mai urat lucru din viata mea.
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SP: Baril, don't look at it, bud.
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P: Baril, nu te uita la el prietene.
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Michael Moriarty's Wife: He's not the same person anymore.
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Sotia lui M: Nu mai este aceeasi persoana.
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MM: I will not go back.
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M: Nu ma voi mai intoarce.
04:16
Kevin Shangraw: The Iraqi people are who we are there to help --
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kevin Shangraw: Oamenii din Iraq sunt cei pentru care am venit aici sa ajutam--
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and we just killed one.
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si tocmai am ucis unu.
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Soldiers: Sergeant Smith is down! Sergeant Smith is down?
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Soldat: Sergentul Smith e doborat!Sergentul Smith e doborat?
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There they are! Right there! Fire, fire!
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Acolo sunt! Chiar acolo! Foc, foc!
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JB: It'll be a better country in 20 years, 'cause we were there.
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Baril: Vor fi o tara mai buna in 20 de ani, pentru ca noi am fost acolo.
04:36
I hope.
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Sper.
04:48
(Applause) Deborah Scranton: Thank you.
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Deborah Scranton: Multumesc.
04:49
One of the things I'd like to talk to you about
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Unul din lucrurile pe care vreau sa le discut
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is having a conversation about something that is difficult to talk about.
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este sa avem o conversatie despre ceva greu de vorbit.
04:56
And I'd like to relate an experience I had here at TED.
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Si as vrea sa ma leg de o experienta care am avut-o la Ted.
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I don't know how many of you might imagine it,
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Nu stiu cati din voi isi pot imagina,
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but there's actually a TEDster who recently got back from Iraq.
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dar avem chiar un TEDster care s-a intors recent din Iraq.
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Paul? Come on, stand up.
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Paul? Haide, ridica-te.
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This is Paul Anthony.
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Acesta este Paul Anthony.
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He served -- (Applause) -- with the Marines,
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A servit-- (Aplauze) - ca Puscas Marin,
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and I want to tell you a little, brief story.
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si vreau sa va spun o povestire scurta.
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We were one of the lucky ones
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Noi am fost unii din cei norocosi
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to get in the class with the Sony cameras and the Vista software.
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care au mers in clasa cu camere Sony si cu software Vista.
05:26
Right? And we started talking.
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Corect? Si am inceput sa vorbim.
05:27
People will see my tag, and they'll see "The War Tapes,"
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oamenii imi vedeau insigna, si vedea "casete de razboi"
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and then we'll start talking about war.
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si apoi incepeam sa vorbim despre razboi.
05:31
We got in a conversation with some other people in the class,
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Am intrat intr-o conversatie cu cativa oameni din clasa,
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and it went on and on.
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care a tinut mult.
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I mean, we were there for an hour, talking.
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Adica, am stat acolo o ora, vorbind.
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And it really highlighted something that I would like to ask
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Si a pus accent pe ceva ce as vrea sa va intreb
05:41
you guys to think about and hopefully to help with,
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si sa va ganditi in speranta ca ma puteti ajuta.
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which is, I think a lot of us are very afraid to have conversations about war,
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Adica, cred ca multi suntem speriati de a avea o conversatie despre razboi,
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and about politics.
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si despre politica.
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And really -- because maybe we're going to disagree.
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Si poate pentru ca nu vom fi de acord cu ceilalti.
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Maybe it's going to get uncomfortable.
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Poate va deveni incomod.
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How do we open it up to really be able to have a conversation?
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Cum ne deschidem, pentru a putea avea o conversatie?
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And you know, Paul was talking,
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Si stii, Paul vorbea,
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and he then turned to Constance and said,
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si apoi s-a intors catre Constance si a spus,
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"You know, I wouldn't have this conversation if she weren't here,
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"Stii, nu as avea aceats aconversatie daca ea nu ar fi aici,
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because I know she has my back."
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pentru ca stiu ca ea imi e alaturi."
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And I want to say, I was nervous.
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Adica, eram retinuta.
06:12
Because I'm used to doing Q&As.
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Chiar de sunt obisnuita sa fac prezentari.
06:14
I really related to what James was saying yesterday,
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Chiar am simtit acelas lucru ce-l spunea James ieri,
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because I'm behind the camera.
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pentru ca eu sunt in spatele camerei.
06:17
You know, I can answer questions about my movie,
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Stii, pot sa raspund intrebarilor depre film,
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but for me to come up and talk for 18 minutes is a really long time.
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dar pentru mine sa vin si sa vorbesc pentru 18 minute e foarte mult.
06:21
So, I wanted to say, Paul, I'm happy you're here,
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Asa ca am vrut sa spun,"Paul, ma bucur ca esti aici,
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because I know you have my back.
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pentru ca stiu ca ma sustii."
06:27
This film was not about the Internet,
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Filmul nu este despre Internet,
06:29
but it could not have been made without it.
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dar nu s-ar fi putut face fara acesta.
06:32
The guys' tapes on average took two weeks to get from Iraq to me.
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Casetele baietilor au ajuns in cam doua saptamani din Iraq la mine.
06:35
In the meantime, the soldiers -- we would email and IM.
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Intre timp, cu soldatii imi trimiteam mailuri si IM.
06:39
I didn't save all of them,
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Nu le-am salvat pe toate,
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because I didn't realize at the beginning
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pentru ca nu am realizat la inceput
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that it would be something that I would want to keep track of.
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ca este ceva la care as vrea sa tin evidenta.
06:48
But there were 3,211 emails and IMs and text messages
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Dar au fost 3 311 emailuri si mesaje IM si mesaje text
06:53
that I was able to save.
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care am reusit sa le salvez.
06:55
The reason I quantify that is because we really embarked on this as a mutual journey
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Motivul pentru care am spus asta e pentru ca am pornit impreuna in aceasta calatorie
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to really get inside of it.
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pentru a putea patrunde cu adevarat.
07:04
So I wanted to show you a clip,
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Si am vrut sa va arat o inregistare,
07:06
and then I was going tell you a little bit of how it got put together.
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apoi va voi spune ceva despre cum a fost realizat,
07:09
If we could roll the clip.
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daca s-ar putea difuza.
07:11
(Video) SP: Today is sport. [Unclear] Radio: [Unclear] Christian soldiers.
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Pink: Astazi e distractiv.
07:14
SP: We like to give these insurgents a fair chance.
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Vrem sa le oferim acestor rebeli o sansa corecta.
07:18
So, what we do, we ride with the windows down.
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Asa ca, mergem cu geamurile jos.
07:21
Because, you know, we obviously have the advantage. I'm just kidding.
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Pentru ca stii, cu siguranta avem un avantaj. Glumesc doar.
07:27
We don't fucking ride with the goddam windows down.
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Nu mergem cu geamurile netrase.
07:30
It's not true. Very unsafe.
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Nu este adevarat. Foarte periculos.
07:36
Whoa.
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Whoa.
07:37
Soldier: Right there.
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Soldat: Chiar acolo.
07:39
SP: All right, let's get over to that site.
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P: Bine, sa mergem in partea aceea.
07:43
Be advised, we're leaving Taji right now.
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Fii prevenit, parasim Taji chiar acum.
07:46
We believe that the blast was right outside the gate of Taji,
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Credem ca explozia a fost chiar in afara portii din Taji.
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we're heading to that location now.
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ne indreptam spre acea locatie chiar acum.
07:54
Soldier: That's a fucking car bomb!
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Soldat: Este o masina cu bomba!
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Soldier: Motherfuckers!
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Soldat: Nenorocitii!
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Soldiers: Get your vest on!
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Soldat: Pune-ti vesta!
07:59
Hey, get over the fucking -- yeah, yeah.
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hey, da-te de pe-- da,da.
08:01
Any one-four elements get to the gate!
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Oricine, patru elemente sa ajunga la poarta!
08:03
SP: Sheriff one-six, or any one-four elements,
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P: Sheriff unu sase, sau oricare alte patru elemente,
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we need you at the gate of Taji right now, over.
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avem nevoie de tine la poarte din Taji chiar acum, terminat.
08:09
Soldier: I'll walk you through it.
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Barbat: Va conduc eu printre.
08:11
(Voices)
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(Voci)
08:17
SP: Stay low. Head over to the right.
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P: Stai aplecat. Capul spre dreapta.
08:20
Get your bag, get your bag!
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Ia-ti geanta, ia-ti geanta CLS!
08:24
(Screams)
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(Tipete)
08:29
SP: It was mass casualties.
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P: Au fost pagube umane in masa.
08:31
Probably 20 dead, at least 20 or 30 wounded Iraqis.
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Probabil 20 morti, cel putin 20 sau 30 raniti .
08:42
SP: It just looked like, you know,
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P: Era ca si cum -- stii tu,
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someone had thrown a quarter through a guy,
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cineva ar fi aruncat o moneda prin tipul ala,
08:46
and it was just like -- there was no blood coming from the shrapnel wounds.
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si nu a fost sange care sa curga din ranile in forma de tija.
08:49
Everything was cauterized,
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Totul era cauterizat,
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and it was just like there was a void going through the body.
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si era ca un void trecand prin corp.
08:55
This is the scene north.
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Acesta e partea de Nord.
08:59
They just removed a burnt body, or half a body from here.
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Tocmai au luat un corp ars, sau jumatate de corp de aici.
09:03
I don't think there was anything left from his abdominal down.
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Nu cred ca mai era ceva ramas din el din partea abdominala in jos.
09:10
This is blood.
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Acesta e sange.
09:13
And you know, you walk,
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Si stii, mergi,
09:15
and you hear the pieces of skin.
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si auzi bucati de piele si --
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And that's it, that's all that's left.
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asta e tot, atat a ramas.
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I remember giving three IVs, bandaging several wounded.
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Tin minte ca am pus 3 perfuzii, am badajat mai multe persoane ranite.
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Soldiers sitting in the corner of a sandbag wall, shaking and screaming.
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Soldati in spatele unui zid de saci cu nisip, tremurand si tipand.
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Medics who were terrified and couldn't perform.
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Medici terifiati care nu-si putea face treaba.
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I later heard that Iraqi casualties were not to be treated in Taji.
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Mai tarziu am auzit ca ranile din Iraq nu trebuia sa fie tratate in Taji.
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They can work on the post for pennies, but can't die there.
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Pot lucra pe post pentru bani, dar nu pot sa moara aici.
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They've got to die outside.
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Trebuie sa moara afara.
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If one of those incompetent medical officers told me to stop treatment,
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Daca unii din acei ofiteri medicali incopetenti mi-ar fi spus sa termin tratamentul,
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I would've slit his throat right there.
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i-as fi taiat gatul chiar acolo.
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21:00 hours, and it's just our squad
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Ora 21, si este doar echipa noastra
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going through today's events in our heads,
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trecandu-ne prin cap toate evenimentele de astazi,
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whether we want to or not.
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chiar de vrem sau nu.
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News Anchor: More violence in Iraq.
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Anchor: Mai multa violenta in Iraq.
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Twin suicide car bombings killed eight Iraqis and wounded dozens more
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Doua masini cu bomba au ucis opt Iraqieni si au ranit inca alte zeci
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near a coalition base north of Baghdad.
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langa o baza de coalitie la nord de Baghdad..
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SP: We made the news.
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P: Am ajuns la stiri.
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I feel exploited and proud at the same time.
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Ma simt exploatat si mandru in acelas timp.
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I've lost all faith in the media --
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Am pierdut toata incredere in media --
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a hapless joke I would much rather laugh at than become a part of.
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o gluma nenorocoasa la care as prefera sa rad decat sa fac parte din ea.
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I should really thank God for saving my lucky ass.
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Chiar ar trebui sa-i multumesc lui Dumnezeu pentru ca mi-a salvat fundul norocos azi.
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I'll do that, then I'm gonna jerk off.
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Voi face asta, si pe urma ma voi masturba.
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Because these pages smell like Linds,
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Pentru ca aceste pagini miros ca Lindz,
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and there won't be any time for jerking off tomorrow.
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si nu va mai fi timp pentru masturbare maine.
10:42
Another mission at 06:00.
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Alta misiune la 6 am.
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DS: Now -- (Applause) -- thanks.
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Deborah Scranton: Acum -- (Aplauze).Multumesc.
10:52
When I said earlier, to try and tell a story from the inside out, versus the outside in --
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Cand am spus mai devreme, ca incerc sa spun o poveste din interior, versus cea din afara spre interior --
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part of what Chris said so eloquently in his introduction -- is this melding.
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parte din ce a spus Chris atat de elocvent este introducerea lui in acest mesaj.
11:02
It's a new way of trying to make a documentary.
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Este un nou mod de a incerca sa faci un documentar.
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When I met the guys, and 10 of them agreed to take cameras --
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Cand am intalnit baietii, si 10 din ei au fost de acord sa ia camerele.
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in total, 21 ended up filming.
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in total, 21 au ajuns sa filmeze.
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Five soldiers filmed the entire time.
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Cinci soldati au filmat tot timpul.
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There are three featured in the film.
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Sunt trei prezentati in film.
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The way I learned about Taji was Steve Pink sent me an email,
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Cum am auzit de Taji a fost prin Steve Pink care mi-a trimis un mail,
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and in it, attached a photo of that burned body out at the car.
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si a atasat o poza a acelui cadavru ars din afara acelei masini.
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And the tone from the email was,
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si tonul mailului a fost,
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you know, it had been a very bad day, obviously.
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stiti, a fost o zi foarte prosta, bineinteles.
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And I saw in my IM window that Mike Moriarty was at the base.
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Si am vazut in fereastra mea de IM ca Mike Moriatry era la baza.
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So, I pinged Mike and I said,
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asa ca l-am alertat pe Mike si i-am spus,
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"Mike, can you please go get that interview with Pink?"
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"Mike, poti te rog sa te duci sa iei interviul cu Pink?
11:36
Because the thing that very often is missing is,
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Pentru ca lucrul care lipseste foarte des este,
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in the military what they call "hot wash."
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ceea ce in armata este numit "dus fierbinte".
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It's that immediate interview after something immediately happens, you know.
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Este acel interviu luat imediat dupa ce s-a intamplat ceva rapid.
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And if you let time go by,
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Iar daca lasi timpul sa treaca,
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it kind of softens and smooths the edges.
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lucrurile se cam inmoaie si se netezesc.
11:47
And for me, I really wanted that.
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iar eu, chiar vroiam acea inregistrare.
11:50
So, in order to get the intimacy,
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Si, pentru a obtine intimitatea,
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to share that experience with you, the guys --
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de a imparti experienta cu tine, baietii --
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the two most popular mounts --
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cele mai importante locuri --
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there was a camera on the turret, the gun turret,
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a fost o camera pe turnulet -- turnuletul armei,
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and then on the dashboard of the Humvee.
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si una pe bordul masinii Humvee,
12:01
Most of the Humvees, we ended up mounting two cameras in them.
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Pe majoritatea masinilor Humvee, am ajuns sa montam, doua camere in ele.
12:06
So you get to experience that in real time, right?
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Asa ca ajungi sa experimentezi asta in timp real, corect?
12:10
The interview that you see is the one that Mike went and did
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Interviul pe care l-ai vazut e cel pe care l-a facut Mike
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within 24 hours of that episode happening.
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cu 24 de ore inainte de a se intampla acest episod.
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Steve Pink reading his journal
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Steve Pink citindu-si jurnalul
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happened five months after he came home.
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s-a intamplat cu 5 luni dupa ce s-a intors acasa.
12:21
I knew about that journal, but it was very, very private.
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Stiam desre acest jurnal, dar era foarte, foarte privat.
12:23
And you know, you earn someone's trust,
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Si stii, castigi increderea cuiva,
12:26
especially in doc filmmaking, through your relationship.
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in special in filmarea documentarelor, prin relatia voastra.
12:29
So, it wasn't until five months after he was home
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Si nu a fost decat dupa 5 luni de cand ajunse acasa
12:32
that he would read that journal.
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cand a citit jurnalul.
12:34
Now, the news footage I put in there to try to show --
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Acum, inregistrarea stirilor pe care le-am pus acolo pentru a le arata --
12:38
you know, I think mainstream media tries to do the best they can
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stii, cred ca media mainstream incearca sa faca tot ce poate
12:42
in the format that they have.
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in formatul pe care il au.
12:44
But the thing that I know you all have heard a lot of times,
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Dar un lucru sunt sigura ca l-ati auzit de multe ori,
12:46
American soldiers saying,
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soldati Americani spunand,
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"Why don't they talk about the good stuff that we do?"
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"De ce nu vorbesc despre lucurile bune pe care le facem?"
12:50
OK, this is a perfect example.
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OK, acesta este un exemplu perfect.
12:53
Pink's squad and another squad spent their entire day outside the wire.
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Trupa Pink si alta si-au petrecut o zi intreaga inafara sarmei.
12:57
They didn't have to go outside the wire.
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Nu trebuiau sa iasa inafara sarmei.
12:59
There were not Americans hurt out there.
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Nu erau americani raniti acolo.
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They spent their entire day outside the wire trying to save Iraqi lives --
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Si-au petrecut intreaga zi inafara sarmei incercand sa salveze viata iraquienilor --
13:06
the Iraqis who work on the post.
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iraqieni ce lucreaza pe post.
13:08
So, when you may hear soldiers complaining,
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Deci cand vei auzi soldati plangandu-se,
13:11
that's what they're talking about, you know?
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despre asta vorbesc, stii?
13:13
And I think it's such an amazing gift that they would share this
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Si cred ca este un adevarat cadou pentru ca impartasesc asta,
13:17
as a way of bridging.
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ca un mod de a face o legatura.
13:19
And when I talk about that polarity I get at so many different Q&As,
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Si cand vorbesc despre polaritate la diferite intruniri,
13:24
and people are really opinionated.
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oamenii au multe opinii.
13:26
But it seems like people don't want to hear so much,
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Dar pare ca oamenii nu prea vor sa auda.
13:28
or listen, or try to have an exchange.
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Sau asculte.Sau sa incearce sa aiba un schimb.
13:30
And I'm as fiery as the next person, but I really think --
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Si sunt la fel de patimasa ca urmatoarea persoana, dar chiar cred --
13:33
you know, different speakers have talked about their concern for the world,
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stiti, diferite persoane au vorbit despre preocuparea lor pentru lume,
13:38
and my concern is that we have to have these conversations.
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si grija mea e ca trebuie sa avem acest fel de conversatii.
13:41
And we have to be able to go into scary places where we may, you know,
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Si trebuie sa mergem in locuri infricosatoare pe care
13:45
we think we know.
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credem ca le cunostem.
13:47
But we just have to leave that little bit of openness, to know.
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Dar trebuie sa lasam acea deschidere, a cunoaste.
13:51
There's such a disconnect.
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Este o asa de mare deconectare.
13:53
And for me, it's trying to bridge that disconnect.
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Iar eu, doar incerc sa fac legatura acelei deconectari.
13:58
I'll share one story.
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va voi spune o intamplare.
14:00
I get -- I'm often asked, you know, for me,
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Sunt intrebata frecvent,
14:02
what have been some of the special moments from having worked on this film.
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care au fost unele din acele momente speciala in timp ce lucram la acest film.
14:06
And at screenings, inevitably --
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Dar la prezentari, inevitabil --
14:08
you know, as I'm sure all of you obviously do speaking stuff --
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stiti, doar toti faceti intalniri de genul acesta --
14:12
usually you have people who hang around and want to ask you more questions.
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de obicei sunt oameni ce vor sa mai ramana si sa iti puna mai multe intrebari.
14:16
And usually, the first questions are,
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Si de obicei primele intrebari sunt,
14:18
"Oh, what kind of cameras did you use?"
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"Oh, ce fel de camera ai folosit?"
14:20
Or you know, these things.
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Oh stii, aceste lucruri.
14:21
But there's always a few guys, almost always, who are the last ones.
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Dar sunt intotdeauna acei cativa barbati, aprope intotdeauna,cei din urma.
14:26
And I've learned over time that those are always the soldiers.
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Si am invatat cu timpul ca acestia sunt intotdeauna soldatii.
14:30
And they wait until pretty much everybody's gone.
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Asteapta pana toata lumea e plecata.
14:34
And for me, one of the most profound stories someone shared with me,
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Si pentru mine, una din cele mai profunde povesti impartasite cu mine,
14:43
that then became my story, was --
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care apoi a devenit si a mea, a fost --
14:45
for those of you who haven't seen the film, and it's not a spoiler --
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pentru cei care nu ati vazut filmul, si nu este un spoiler --
14:50
it's very common there are a lot of civilian accidents,
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se intampla foarte des sa fie multe accidente civile
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where people get in front of Humvees and they get killed.
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cand oamenii ajung in fata masinilor Humvee si sunt omorati.
14:55
In this film, there is a scene where an Iraqi woman is killed.
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In acest film, este o scena in care o femeie iraqiana este omorata.
15:00
A soldier came up to me and stood, you know really, pretty close,
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Un soldat a venit la mine si a stat, stiti, destul de aproape --
15:07
a foot away from me.
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30 de centrimetri departare de mine.
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He's a big guy.
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Este un tip inalt.
15:11
And he looked at me, and I smiled,
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Si s-a uitat la mine, si eu i-am zambit,
15:13
and then I saw the tears start welling up in his eyes.
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si apoi am vazut lacrimile cum se formau in ochii lui.
15:18
And he wasn't going to blink.
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Si nu avea de gand sa clipeasca.
15:21
And he said, "My gunner was throwing candy."
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Si a spus, "Tunarul meu arunca dulciuri"
15:24
And I knew what he was going to say.
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Si stiam ce avea de gand sa spuna.
15:27
The gunner was throwing candy.
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Tunarul meu arunca dulciuri.
15:30
They used to throw candy to the kids.
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Obisnuiau sa arunce dulciuri copiilor.
15:33
Kids got too close, very often.
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Copii se apropiau prea tare, foarte des,
15:36
And he said, "I killed a child.
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Si a spus, "Am omorat un copil.
15:39
And I'm a father. I have children.
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Si sunt tata. Am copii.
15:43
I haven't been able to tell my wife.
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Nu am fost in stare sa-i spun sotiei mele.
15:45
I'm afraid she's going to think I'm a monster."
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Mi-e frica ca va crede ca sunt un monstru."
15:52
I hugged him, of course,
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L-am imbratisat, bineinteles,
15:54
and I said, you know, "It's going to be OK."
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si am spus, stii, "Va fi bine"
15:56
And he said, "I'm going to bring her to see your film.
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Si a spus, "O voi aduce sa vada filmul tau.
15:59
And then I'm going to tell her."
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Si apoi ii voi spune."
16:05
So when I talk about a disconnect,
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Deci cand vorbesc despre o deconectare,
16:12
it's not only for maybe those people who don't know a soldier,
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nu este poate pentru acei oameni care nu stiu un soldat.
16:15
which there obviously are. You know, these days,
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care cu siguranta exista -- stii, in aceste zile.
16:17
it's not like World War II, where there was a war front and a home front,
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Nu e ca in Al doilea razboi mondial, unde ere un front de razboi si unul de acasa,
16:20
and everybody seemed involved.
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si toata lumea era implicata.
16:22
You can go for days here and not feel like there's a war going on.
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Poti sa traiesti zile si sa nu simti ca si cum este un razboi care se desfasoara.
16:25
And often, I'll hear people say,
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Si des aud oameni spunand,
16:27
who maybe know that I did this film,
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care probabil ca stiu ca am facut acest film,
16:29
and they say, "Oh, you know, I'm against the war, but I support the soldiers."
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si spun, " Oh, stii, sunt impotriva razboiului dar sustin soldatii."
16:36
And I've started to ask them,
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Si am inceput sa-i intreb,
16:39
"Well, that's nice. What are you doing?
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"Pai, asta e dragut -- ce faci?
16:42
Are you volunteering at a VA?
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esti voluntar ca un VA?
16:45
You go and see anybody?
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Te duci si vezi pe oricine?
16:47
Do you, if you find out your neighbor's been, do you spend some time?
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Daca afli ca vecinul tau a fost acolo petreci niste timp cu el?
16:54
Not necessarily ask questions, but see if they want to talk?
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Nu neaparat sa pui intreabari dar sa vezi daca vor sa vorbeasca?
16:58
Do you give money to any of the charities?"
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oferi bani vreunei fundatii?
17:00
You know, obviously, like Dean Kamen's working on that amazing thing,
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Stiti, bineinteles, cum Dean Kermen lucreaza la acel lucru minunat --
17:03
but there's charities where you can sponsor computers for wounded soldiers.
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dar sunt si fundatii unde poti sponsoriza computere pentru soldatii raniti.
17:08
I think, I challenge us to say --
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Cred ca ma provoc sa spunem --
17:13
to operationalize those terms, when we say we support someone, you know?
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sa operationam acei termeni cand spunem ca sustinem pe cineva, stiti?
17:16
Are you a friend to them?
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Esti un prieten pentru ei?
17:18
Do you really care?
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Chiar iti pasa?
17:20
And I would just say it's my hope, and I would ask you guys
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Si as spune ca e speranta mea, si va rog,
17:24
to please, you know, reach out a hand.
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sa intindeti o mana.
17:30
And really do give them a hug.
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Si chiar sa le dati o imbratisare.
17:34
Thank you.
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Multumesc.
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Deborah Scranton - FilmmakerThe director of the award-winning documentary The War Tapes, Deborah Scranton is committed to using new technology to give people power to tell their own stories.
Why you should listen
Deborah Scranton made her feature film directorial debut with the award-winning documentary THE WAR TAPES, which premiered and won Best Documentary Feature at the 2006 Tribeca Film Festival. Hailed by the New York Times as "raw, honest and moving … one of the formally most radical films of 2006" and described as "the first indispensable Iraq documentary", THE WAR TAPES went on to win Best International Documentary at the 2006 BritDoc Festival, and was shortlisted for an Academy Award in 2007. In 2008, Scranton reprised her ‘virtual embed’ directorial technique in BAD VOODOO’S WAR which was commissioned and broadcast by WGBH/FRONTLINE on PBS during the height of the Iraq War troop surge.
Her second feature EARTH MADE OF GLASS, a political thriller set in post-genocide Rwanda and France, premiered at the 2010 Tribeca Film Festival in Documentary Competition. Broadcast on HBO in April 2011, EARTH MADE OF GLASS was one of six films nominated for Best Documentary Feature of the Year by the Producer’s Guild of America in 2011 and won a Peabody Award the same year.
Scranton was commissioned by HBO for her third feature, WAR DOG: A SOLDIER’S BEST FRIEND which reveals the intimate relationship between U.S. Army Special Operations Command dog handlers and the multi-purpose canines that serve together as human/animal teams in combat around the world. The film had its worldwide HBO broadcast premiere Veteran’s Day weekend November 2017.
Scranton is currently in pre-production on a hybrid documentary film series tracing the history of American and Soviet/Russian military from the American Revolutionary War through the Global War on Terror still underway in Afghanistan.
In 2007, she was a visiting fellow at The Watson Institute for International Studies at Brown University working with the Global Media Project in the Global Security Program. During her fellowship, Scranton created and co-taught a senior seminar on documentary filmmaking and social change. She also created and organized a two day conference, “Front Line, First Person: Iraq War Stories”, which featured speakers representing the direct experience of war.
More profile about the speakerHer second feature EARTH MADE OF GLASS, a political thriller set in post-genocide Rwanda and France, premiered at the 2010 Tribeca Film Festival in Documentary Competition. Broadcast on HBO in April 2011, EARTH MADE OF GLASS was one of six films nominated for Best Documentary Feature of the Year by the Producer’s Guild of America in 2011 and won a Peabody Award the same year.
Scranton was commissioned by HBO for her third feature, WAR DOG: A SOLDIER’S BEST FRIEND which reveals the intimate relationship between U.S. Army Special Operations Command dog handlers and the multi-purpose canines that serve together as human/animal teams in combat around the world. The film had its worldwide HBO broadcast premiere Veteran’s Day weekend November 2017.
Scranton is currently in pre-production on a hybrid documentary film series tracing the history of American and Soviet/Russian military from the American Revolutionary War through the Global War on Terror still underway in Afghanistan.
In 2007, she was a visiting fellow at The Watson Institute for International Studies at Brown University working with the Global Media Project in the Global Security Program. During her fellowship, Scranton created and co-taught a senior seminar on documentary filmmaking and social change. She also created and organized a two day conference, “Front Line, First Person: Iraq War Stories”, which featured speakers representing the direct experience of war.
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