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Srdja Popovic: How to topple a dictator
Srđa Popović: Kako svrgnuti diktatora
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2011. je bila godina izuzetnih otpora koje je predvodio narod, koji su počeli arapskim prolećem i proširili se svetom. Kako su ti otpori tako dobro funkcionisali? Srđa Popović (koji je predvodio nenasilni pokret koji je svrgnuo Miloševića u Srbiji 2000.) predstavlja planove, veštine i alate potrebne svakom pokretu - od nenasilnih taktika do smisla za humor. (Snimljeno na TEDxKrakow.)
Srdja Popovic - Organizer
Srdja Popovic was a founder and leader of the student movement that brought down the Milosovic regime. Now, he helps other nonviolent movements learn and grow. Full bio
Srdja Popovic was a founder and leader of the student movement that brought down the Milosovic regime. Now, he helps other nonviolent movements learn and grow. Full bio
Double-click the English transcript below to play the video.
00:13
Good afternoon. I am proud to be here at TEDxKrakow.
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Dobar dan, drago mi je što sam ovde
na TEDxKrakow
na TEDxKrakow
00:16
I'll try to speak a little bit today about a phenomenon
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gde ću danas malo govoriti o fenomenu
00:19
which can and is actually changing the world,
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koji može da promeni svet, a to i čini,
00:22
and whose name is people power.
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a koji se naziva moć naroda.
00:24
I'll start with the anecdote, or for those of you
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Počeću jednom anegdotom ili za one koji su ljubitelji
00:27
who are Monty Python lovers, a Monty Python type of sketch.
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Monti Pajtona,
jednim montipajtonovskim skečom.
jednim montipajtonovskim skečom.
00:30
Here it is. It is December 15, 2010.
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Evo ga. Petnaesti decembar 2010.
00:34
Somebody gives you a bet. You will look at a crystal ball
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Neko vam ponudi opkladu:
pogledaćete u kristalnu kuglu
pogledaćete u kristalnu kuglu
00:37
and you will see the future. The future will be accurate.
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i videćete budućnost;
ona će biti tačna.
ona će biti tačna.
00:40
But you need to share it with the world. Okay?
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Ali morate je podeliti sa svetom. Ok?
00:43
Curiosity killed the cat. You take the bet.
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Mnogo ste radoznali,
prihvatate opkladu,
prihvatate opkladu,
00:45
You look at the crystal ball. One hour later,
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gledate u kristalnu kuglu.
Sat vremena kasnije,
Sat vremena kasnije,
00:48
you are sitting in a building on the national TV
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sedite u zgradi nacionalne TV
00:51
in a talkshow, and you tell the story.
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u gledanoj emisiji i pričate tu priču:
00:53
"Before the end of 2011, Ben Ali and Mubarak
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"Pre kraja 2011., Ben Ali i Mubarak
00:58
and Gaddafi will be down and prosecuted.
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i Gadafi će pasti i biće im suđeno.
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Saleh of Yemen and Assad of Syria
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Saleh iz Jemena i Asad iz Sirije
01:05
would be either challenged or already on their knees.
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biće izazvani ili već poraženi.
01:08
Osama bin Laden will be dead,
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Osama bin Laden biće mrtav,
01:10
and Ratko Mladic will be in the Hague."
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a Ratko Mladić biće u Hagu."
01:13
Now, the anchor watches you with a strange gaze on his face,
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Voditelj vas gleda
sa čudnim izrazom lica.
sa čudnim izrazom lica.
01:16
and then on the top of it you add,
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I onda povrh svega, dodajete:
01:18
"And thousands of the young people from Athens, Madrid
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"...i hiljade mladih iz Atine,
Madrida i Njujorka
Madrida i Njujorka
01:21
and New York will demonstrate for social justice,
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protestovaće za socijalnu pravdu,
01:24
claiming that they are inspired with Arabs."
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tvrdeći da su ih inspirisali Arapi."
01:27
Next thing you know, two guys in white appear.
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Sledeće što se dešava
je da dolaze dvojica u belom,
je da dolaze dvojica u belom,
01:30
They give you the strange t-shirt,
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daju vam neku čudnu majicu
01:32
take you to the nearest mental institution.
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i odvode vas u najbližu duševnu bolnicu.
01:34
So I would like to speak a little bit about the phenomenon
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Voleo bih da govorim
o fenomenu
o fenomenu
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which is behind what already seems to be the very bad year
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koji je u pozadini onoga što već izgleda
kao veoma loša godina
kao veoma loša godina
01:41
for bad guys, and this phenomenon is called people power.
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za loše momke, a taj fenomen
se zove moć naroda.
se zove moć naroda.
01:46
Well, people power has been there for a while.
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Moć naroda postoji već duže vreme.
01:48
It helped Gandhi kick the Brits from India.
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Pomogla je Gandiju da istera
Britance iz Indije,
Britance iz Indije,
01:51
It helped Martin Luther King win a historic racial struggle.
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pomogla je Martinu Luteru Kingu
u istorijskoj borbi protiv rasizma.
u istorijskoj borbi protiv rasizma.
01:55
It helped local Lech Walesa to kick out
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Pomogla je lokalnom političaru,
Lehu Valesi
Lehu Valesi
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one million Soviet troops from Poland
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da istera milion sovjetskih vojnika
iz Poljske
iz Poljske
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and beginning the end of the Soviet Union as we know it.
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i započne kraj Sovjetskog Saveza
koji smo poznavali.
koji smo poznavali.
02:04
So what's new in it? What seems to be very new,
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Dakle šta je tu novo?
Ono što je izgleda novo,
Ono što je izgleda novo,
02:08
which is the idea I would like to share with you today,
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a tu ideju ću podeliti sa vama danas,
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that there is a set of rules and skills which can be learned
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je to da postoje određena pravila i veštine
koje se mogu učiti i podučavati
koje se mogu učiti i podučavati
02:15
and taught in order to perform successful nonviolent struggle.
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kako bi se izvela uspešna
nenasilna borba.
nenasilna borba.
02:19
If this is true, we can help these movements.
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Ako je to istinito,
možemo pomoći tim pokretima.
možemo pomoći tim pokretima.
02:23
Well, first one, analytic skills.
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Prva veština je analitička.
02:26
I'll try where it all started in the Middle East,
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Pokušaću sa Bliskim istokom,
mestom na kom je sve počelo.
mestom na kom je sve počelo.
02:29
and for so many years we were living with completely the wrong
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Toliko mnogo godina smo živeli
sa potpuno pogrešnim
sa potpuno pogrešnim
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perception of the Middle East.
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shvatanjem Bliskog istoka.
02:35
It was looking like the frozen region, literally a refrigerator,
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Izgledao je kao zamrznuti region.
Bukvalno kao frižider.
Bukvalno kao frižider.
02:38
and there are only two types of meals there:
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U njemu su bile samo dve vrste jela:
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steak, which stands for a Mubarak, Ben Ali-type of
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odrezak koji predstavlja vojno-policijski
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military police dictatorship, or a potato,
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diktatorski režim Ben Alija i Mubaraka
ili krompir, koji predstavlja
ili krompir, koji predstavlja
02:48
which stands for Tehran types of theocracies.
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teokratiju teheranskog tipa.
02:51
And everybody was amazed when the refrigerator opened
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Svi su se začudili
kada se frižider otvorio
kada se frižider otvorio
02:54
and millions of young, mainly secular people step out
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i milioni mladih, uglavnom sekularnih ljudi
su izašli da pokrenu promenu.
su izašli da pokrenu promenu.
02:57
to do the change. Guess what? They didn't watch the demographics.
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Pogađajte - nisu gledali
demografske podatke.
demografske podatke.
03:02
What is the average age of Egyptians? 24.
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Koliko prosečni Egipćanin ima godina?
24.
24.
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How long was Mubarak in power? 31.
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Koliko dugo je Mubarak vladao?
31 godinu.
31 godinu.
03:07
So this system: just obsolete. They expired,
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Dakle, taj sistem je bio
suvišan, istekao mu je rok.
suvišan, istekao mu je rok.
03:11
and young people of the Arab World have awakened
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Mladi ljudi širom sveta
su se probudili jednog jutra
su se probudili jednog jutra
03:13
one morning and understood that power lies in their hands.
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i shvatili da moć leži
u njihovim rukama.
u njihovim rukama.
03:18
The rest is the year in front of us. And guess what?
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Ostalo je u godini koja je pred nama.
03:21
The same Generation Epsilon with their rules,
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Pogađajte: ista generacija Y, sa svojim pravilima,
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with their tools, with their games and with their language,
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alatima, svojim igrama i svojim jezikom,
03:26
which sounds a little bit strange to me. I am 38 now.
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koji meni zvuči pomalo čudno,
ja imam 38 godina...
ja imam 38 godina...
03:30
And can you look at the age of the people on the streets of Europe?
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Pogledajte godine ljudi
na ulicama Evrope.
na ulicama Evrope.
03:34
It seems that Generation Epsilon is coming.
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Izgleda da generacija Y dolazi.
03:38
Now let me set another example.
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Daću vam još jedan primer.
03:41
I'm meeting different people throughout the world,
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Širom sveta srećem različite ljude,
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and they are, you know, academics and professors
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to su akademici, profesori, lekari
03:46
and doctors, and they will always talk conditions.
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i uvek govore o uslovima.
03:49
They will say, "People power will work only if the regime is not too oppressive."
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Kažu: "Moć naroda će uspeti, samo
ako režim nije previše opresivan."
ako režim nije previše opresivan."
03:53
They will say, "People power will work if the annual income
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Reći će: "Moć naroda uspeva
ako je godišnji prihod
ako je godišnji prihod
03:56
of the country is between X and Z."
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zemlje između X i Y."
03:58
They will say, "People power will work only if there is a foreign pressure."
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Reći će: "Moć naroda će uspeti
samo ako postoji strani pritisak."
samo ako postoji strani pritisak."
04:02
They will say, "People power will work only if there is no oil."
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Reći će: "Moć naroda će uspeti
samo ako nema nafte."
samo ako nema nafte."
04:05
And, I mean, there is a set of conditions.
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Mislim, postoji skup uslova.
04:07
Well, the news here is that your skills [that you] bring in the conflict
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Pa, novost je da su
vaše veštine tokom konflikta
vaše veštine tokom konflikta
04:12
seem to be more important than the conditions,
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izgleda važnije od tih uslova.
04:15
namely skills of unity, planning,
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To su veštine ujedinjenja, planiranja,
04:18
and maintaining nonviolent discipline.
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nenasilnog održavanja discipline.
04:19
Let me give you the example.
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Daću vam jedan primer.
04:21
I am coming from a country called Serbia.
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Ja dolazim iz zemlje
koja se zove Srbija.
koja se zove Srbija.
04:23
It took us 10 years to unite 18 opposition party leaders,
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Bilo je potrebno deset godina
da se 18 opozicionih lidera
da se 18 opozicionih lidera
04:28
with their big egos, behind one single candidate
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sa velikim egom, ujedini iza
jednog jedinog kandidata
jednog jedinog kandidata
04:31
against Balkan dictator Slobodan Milosevic.
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protiv balkanskog diktatora
Slobodana Miloševića.
Slobodana Miloševića.
04:34
Guess what? That was the day of his defeat.
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Pogađate?
To je bio dan njegovog poraza.
To je bio dan njegovog poraza.
04:36
You look at the Egyptians, they fire on Tahrir Square,
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Pogledajte Egipćane,
bore se na trgu Tahrir,
bore se na trgu Tahrir,
04:39
they get rid of their individual symbols.
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uklone svoje lične simbole
04:41
They appear on the street only with the flag of Egypt.
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i pojave se na ulici
samo sa egipatskom zastavom.
samo sa egipatskom zastavom.
04:44
I will give you a counter-example.
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Daću vam jedan suprotan primer.
04:47
You see nine presidential candidates running against Lukashenko.
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Videli ste da je Lukašenko
imao devet protiv-kandidata.
imao devet protiv-kandidata.
04:50
You will know the outcome.
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Svi znate ishod.
04:51
So unity is a big thing, and this can be achieved.
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Dakle, jedinstvo je velika stvar.
A ono može biti postignuto.
A ono može biti postignuto.
04:55
Same with planning. Somebody has lied to you
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Isto važi i za planiranje.
Neko vas je slagao
Neko vas je slagao
04:57
about the successful and spontaneous nonviolent revolution?
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u vezi sa uspešnom i spontanom
nenasilnom revolucijom.
nenasilnom revolucijom.
05:01
That thing doesn't exist in the world.
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Tako nešto u svetu ne postoji.
05:04
Whenever you see young people in front of the road
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Kada god vidite mlade ljude
kako na čelu reda
kako na čelu reda
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trying to fraternize with the police or military,
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pokušavaju da se združe
sa milicijom ili vojskom,
sa milicijom ili vojskom,
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somebody was thinking about it before.
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neko je već ranije mislio na to.
05:11
Now, at the end, nonviolent discipline,
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Na kraju, nenasilna disciplina,
05:14
and this is probably the game-changer.
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a to je ono što verovatno menja stvari.
05:16
If you maintain nonviolent discipline, you will exclusively win.
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Ako održite nenasilnu disciplinu,
uvek ćete pobediti.
uvek ćete pobediti.
05:20
You have 100,000 people in a nonviolent march,
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Imate 100 000 ljudi
u nenasilnoj šetnji,
u nenasilnoj šetnji,
05:23
and one idiot or agent provocateur is throwing stones,
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a jedna budala ili provokator
baci kamen.
baci kamen.
05:26
guess what takes all the cameras? That one guy.
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Šta privlači pažnju kamera?
Taj jedan lik.
Taj jedan lik.
05:28
One single act of violence can literally
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Jedan jedini čin nasilja
05:31
destroy your movement.
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bukvalno može uništiti vaš pokret.
05:33
Now let me move to another place.
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Dozvolite mi da pređem dalje.
05:36
It's selection of strategies and tactics.
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To je izbor strategija i taktika.
05:37
There are certain rules in nonviolent struggle you may follow.
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U nenasilnoj borbi postoje
neka pravila koja možete pratiti.
neka pravila koja možete pratiti.
05:41
First, you start small.
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Prvo, počnite s nečim malim.
05:43
Second, you pick the battles you can win.
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Drugo, odaberite bitke
koje možete da dobijete.
koje možete da dobijete.
05:46
It's only 200 of us in this room.
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Ovde nas ima samo 200.
05:49
We won't call for the March of Millions.
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Nećemo krenuti u milionsku šetnju.
05:51
But what if we organize spraying graffiti throughout the night
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Ali šta ako bismo organizovali
pisanje grafita tokom noći
pisanje grafita tokom noći
05:54
all over Krakow city? The city will know.
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po celom Krakovu?
Grad će znati.
Grad će znati.
05:57
So we pick the tactics which accommodates to the event,
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Dakle, biramo taktiku
u skladu sa događajem,
u skladu sa događajem,
06:00
especially this thing we call the small tactics of dispersion.
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posebno ono što nazivamo
malom taktikom raspršivanja.
malom taktikom raspršivanja.
06:04
They're very useful in a violent oppression.
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Veoma je korisna u nasilnom
ugnjetavanju.
ugnjetavanju.
06:08
We are actually witnessing the picture
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Zapravo smo svedoci slike
06:10
of one of the best tactics ever used.
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jedne od najboljih taktika.
06:13
It was on Tahrir Square, where the international community
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To je bilo na trgu Tahrir,
gde je međunarodna zajednica
gde je međunarodna zajednica
06:16
was constantly frightened that the Islamists
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stalno zastrašivana da će islamisti
06:19
will overtake the revolution. Well, they've organized
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preuzeti revoluciju.
Ono što su organizovali...
Ono što su organizovali...
06:22
Christians protecting Muslims, who are there praying,
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Hrišćani štite muslimane
pri njihovim molitvama,
pri njihovim molitvama,
06:25
Coptic wedding cheered by thousands of Muslims.
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hiljade muslimana pozdravlja
koptsko venčanje.
koptsko venčanje.
06:28
The world has just changed the picture,
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Svet je promenio sliku,
06:30
but somebody was thinking about this previously.
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ali neko je ranije mislio o tome.
06:33
So there are so many things you can do instead of
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Postoje mnoge stvari
koje možete uraditi
koje možete uraditi
06:35
getting into one place, shouting and
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umesto da odete na jedno mesto
06:38
showing off in front of the security forces.
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i vičete i pravite se važni
pred obezbeđenjem.
pred obezbeđenjem.
06:42
Now there is also another very important dynamic,
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Postoji još jedan važan odnos.
06:45
and this is a dynamic normally analytics don't see.
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Njega analitičari uglavnom ne vide.
06:49
This is dynamics between fear and apathy on one side
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To je odnos između straha i apatije
s jedne strane
s jedne strane
06:52
and enthusiasm and humor on another side.
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i entuzijazma i humora sa druge.
06:55
So it works like in a video game.
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To funkcioniše kao u video igri.
06:57
You have a fear high, you have status quo.
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Ako je strah na visokom nivou,
imate status kvo.
imate status kvo.
06:59
You have enthusiasm higher, you see fear starting to melt.
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Ako entuzijazam raste,
vidite kako strah počinje da se topi.
vidite kako strah počinje da se topi.
07:03
Day two, you see people running towards police
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Drugog dana vidite kako ljudi u Egiptu
trče ka policiji
trče ka policiji
07:06
instead of from the police.
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umesto od nje.
07:08
In Egypt, you can tell that something is happening there.
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Vidite da se nešto tu dešava.
07:11
And then it's about humor. Humor is such a powerful
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A onda nastupa humor.
Humor je veoma moćan
Humor je veoma moćan
07:15
game-changer, and of course it was very big in Poland.
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činilac promene i naravno,
veoma uticajan i u Poljskoj.
veoma uticajan i u Poljskoj.
07:17
And you know, we were just a small group of crazy students
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Znate, bili smo mala grupa
ludih studenata u Srbiji,
ludih studenata u Srbiji,
07:20
in Serbia when we made this big skit.
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kada smo napravili veliku parodiju.
07:24
We put the big petrol barrel with a
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Stavili smo veliko bure od goriva
07:27
portrait picture of Mr. President on it
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sa slikom Gospodina Predsednika
nasred glavne ulice.
nasred glavne ulice.
07:29
in the middle of the Main Street. There was a hole on the top
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Na vrhu je bila rupa.
07:32
so you could literally come, put a coin in,
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Mogli ste bukvalno da dođete,
ubacite novčić,
ubacite novčić,
07:35
get a baseball bat, and pow, hit his face.
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uzmete bezbol palicu
i udarite njegovo lice.
i udarite njegovo lice.
07:38
Sounds loud. And within the minutes, we were sitting
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Stvara buku. U roku od nekoliko minuta,
07:42
in a nearby cafe having coffee, and there was
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sedeli smo u obližnjem kafiću
i pili kafu,
i pili kafu,
07:44
a queue of people waiting to do this lovely thing.
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a ljudi su stajali u redu, čekajući
da urade ovu divnu stvar.
da urade ovu divnu stvar.
07:48
Well, that's just the beginning of the show.
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To je samo početak predstave.
07:50
The real show starts when the police appears.
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Prava predstava počinje
sa dolaskom policije.
sa dolaskom policije.
07:53
What will they do? Arrest us? We are nowhere to be seen.
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Šta će uraditi? Uhapsiti nas?
Nisu mogli da nas nađu.
Nisu mogli da nas nađu.
07:56
We are three blocks away observing it from our espresso bar.
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Posmatrali smo sve iz kafića
tri bloka dalje.
tri bloka dalje.
08:00
Arrest the shoppers with kids? Doesn't make sense.
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Da uhapse kupce sa decom?
To nema smisla.
To nema smisla.
08:03
Of course, you could bet they have done the most stupid thing:
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Naravno, možete se kladiti,
uradili su najgluplju stvar:
uradili su najgluplju stvar:
08:06
They arrested the barrel. And now the picture
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uhapsili su bure. I sada, slika
08:09
of the smashed face on the barrel with the policeman
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izubijanog lica na buretu
08:12
dragging them to the police car, that was the best day
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koje policajci vuku u auto,
08:15
for the photographers from newspapers that they ever will have.
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bila je za fotoreportere nešto
najbolje što su ikada dobili.
najbolje što su ikada dobili.
08:18
So, I mean, these are the things you can do,
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Mislim, to su stvari
koje možete uraditi.
koje možete uraditi.
08:20
and you can always use the humor.
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I uvek možete koristiti humor.
08:22
There is also one big thing about the humor: It really hurts,
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Ima još jedna velika stvar u vezi
sa humorom: on zaista povređuje.
sa humorom: on zaista povređuje.
08:25
because these guys really are taking themselves too seriously.
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Jer ovi momci stvarno
sebe shvataju preozbiljno.
sebe shvataju preozbiljno.
08:30
When you start to mock them, it hurts.
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Kad počnete da im se rugate, to boli.
08:32
Now, everybody is talking about His Majesty, the Internet,
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Sada svi govore o Njegovom Visočanstvu,
Internetu,
Internetu,
08:36
and it is also a very useful skill, but don't rush
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koji je takođe veoma korisna veština.
08:40
to label things like Facebook Revolution, Twitter Revolution.
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Ali nemojte žurno obeležavati stvari
kao "Fejsbuk revolucija", "Tviter revolucija."
kao "Fejsbuk revolucija", "Tviter revolucija."
08:44
Don't mix tools with the substance.
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Ne mešajte suštinu i formu.
08:47
It is true that the Internet and new media are very useful
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Istina je da su internet
i novi mediji veoma korisni
i novi mediji veoma korisni
08:51
in making things faster and cheaper.
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da se stvari urade brže i jeftinije.
08:53
They make it also a bit safer for the participants
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Takođe čine stvari bezbednijima
za učesnike,
za učesnike,
08:56
because they give the part of anonymity.
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jer obezbeđuju delimičnu anonimnost.
08:59
We are watching the great example of something else the Internet can do.
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Vidimo odličan primer još nečega
što internet može da uradi.
što internet može da uradi.
09:02
It can put the price tag of state-sponsored violence over nonviolent protesters.
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Može da stavi cenu državno sponzorisanog nasilja
nad nenasilnim protestantom.
nad nenasilnim protestantom.
09:07
This is a famous group, We are all Khaled Said,
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Ovo je čuvena grupa
"Svi smo mi Kaled Said"
"Svi smo mi Kaled Said"
09:10
made by Wael Ghonim in Egypt and his friend.
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koju su osnovali Vael Gonim
i njegov prijatelj u Egiptu.
i njegov prijatelj u Egiptu.
09:12
This is the mutilated face of the guy who was beaten by the police.
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Ovo je unakaženo lice momka
kog je prebila policija.
kog je prebila policija.
09:16
This is how he became the public, and this is what probably
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Ovako je postao poznat u javnosti
09:19
became the straw which broke the camel's back.
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i to je verovatno bila kap
koja je prelila čašu.
koja je prelila čašu.
09:22
But here is also the bad news.
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Ali postoje i loše vesti.
09:24
The nonviolent struggle is won in the real world,
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Nenasilna borba se dobija na ulicama,
u realnom svetu.
u realnom svetu.
09:26
in the streets. You will never change your society
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Nikada nećete uvesti svoje društvo
09:30
towards democracy or economics
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u demokratiju i ekonomiju,
09:33
if you sit down and click.
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ako sedite i klikćete.
09:35
There are risks to be taken and there are living people
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Postoje rizici koje treba preuzeti
09:38
who are winning the struggle.
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i živi ljudi koji se bore.
09:40
Well, million dollar question: What will happen in the Arab World?
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Pitanje za milion dolara:
šta će se desiti u arapskom svetu?
šta će se desiti u arapskom svetu?
09:44
And though young people from the Arab World
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Iako su mladi ljudi iz arapskog sveta
09:46
were pretty successful in bringing down three dictators,
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bili prilično uspešni
u svrgavanju tri diktatora,
u svrgavanju tri diktatora,
09:49
shaking the region, kind of persuading clever kings
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prodrmavanju regiona i ubeđivanju
pametnih kraljeva
pametnih kraljeva
09:54
from Jordan and Morocco doing substantial reforms,
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Jordana i Maroka da izvrše korenite reforme,
09:57
it is yet to be seen what will be the outcome,
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ostaje da se vidi šta će biti rezultat.
10:01
whether the Egyptians and Tunisians will make it through the transition
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Da li će Egipćani i Tunižani
uspešno proći tranziciju
uspešno proći tranziciju
10:04
or this will end in bloody ethnic and religious conflict,
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ili će se ovo završiti krvavim
etničkim i religijskim sukobom,
etničkim i religijskim sukobom,
10:08
whether the Syrians will maintain nonviolent discipline,
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da li će u Siriji opstati
nenasilna disciplina,
nenasilna disciplina,
10:12
faced with the brutal daily violence
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suočena sa brutalnim
svakodnevnim nasiljem
svakodnevnim nasiljem
10:16
which kills thousands already,
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koje je već ubilo hiljade
10:18
or they will slip into violent struggle
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ili će skliznuti u nasilnu borbu
10:20
and make ugly civil war.
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i započeti ružan građanski rat?
10:23
Will these revolutions be whole like through the transitions
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Da li će se ove revolucije probiti
kroz tranziciju u demokratiju
kroz tranziciju u demokratiju
10:27
to democracy or be overtaken by military
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ili će ih preuzeti vojska
10:30
or extremists of all kinds? We cannot tell.
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i razne ekstremističke grupe?
To ne možemo znati.
To ne možemo znati.
10:34
Same works for the Western sector, where you can see
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Isto važi za Zapadni deo sveta,
gde možete videti
gde možete videti
10:37
all of these excited young people protesting around the world,
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sve te uzbuđene mlade ljude
kako protestuju širom sveta,
kako protestuju širom sveta,
10:40
occupying this, occupying that.
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okupirajući ovo i ono.
10:43
Are they going to become the world wave?
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Da li će to zahvatiti čitav svet?
10:46
Are they going to find their skills, their enthusiasm,
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Da li će oni naći svoje
veštine, entuzijazam
veštine, entuzijazam
10:49
and their strategy to find what they really want
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i strategiju da bi našli ono što žele
10:53
and push for the reform, or will they just stay
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i pokrenuli reformu ili će ostati na tome
10:56
complaining about the endless list of the things they hate?
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da se žale na beskonačnu listu
stvari koje mrze?
stvari koje mrze?
11:01
This is the difference between two towns.
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U tome je razlika između ta dva puta.
11:04
Now, what [do] the statistics have?
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Ali, šta kaže statistika?
11:07
My friend's book, Maria Stephan's book,
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Knjiga moje prijateljice,
Marije Stefan,
Marije Stefan,
11:09
talks a lot about violent and nonviolent struggle,
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mnogo govori o nasilnoj
i nenasilnoj borbi
i nenasilnoj borbi
11:12
and there are some shocking data.
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i iznosi neke šokantne podatke.
11:15
If you look at the last 35 years
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Ako pogledate razne društvene promene
11:18
and different social transitions from dictatorship to democracy,
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u poslednjih 35 godina,
od diktature do demokratije,
od diktature do demokratije,
11:21
you will see that out of 67 different cases,
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videćete da, od 67 različitih slučajeva,
11:24
in 50 of these cases it was nonviolent struggle
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u 50 je nenasilna borba bila
11:28
which was the key power.
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ta koja je bila ključna.
11:31
This is one more reason to look at this phenomenon.
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To je još jedan od razloga
da posmatramo taj fenomen,
da posmatramo taj fenomen,
11:34
This is one more reason to look at the Generation Epsilon,
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još jedan od razloga da posmatramo
Y generaciju.
Y generaciju.
11:37
enough for me to give them credit and hope
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Meni je to dovolljno da im verujem
11:40
that they will find their skills and their courage
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i da se nadam da će
naći veštine i hrabrosti
naći veštine i hrabrosti
11:44
to use the nonviolent struggle
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da koriste nenasilnu borbu
11:46
and thus fix at least a part of the mess
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i tako poprave makar deo haosa
11:49
our generation is making in this world.
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koji naša generacija
pravi u ovom svetu.
pravi u ovom svetu.
11:51
Thank you. (Applause)
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Hvala vam.
(Aplauz)
(Aplauz)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Srdja Popovic - OrganizerSrdja Popovic was a founder and leader of the student movement that brought down the Milosovic regime. Now, he helps other nonviolent movements learn and grow.
Why you should listen
Srdja Popovic was one of the founders and key organizers of the Serbian nonviolent resistance group Otpor! Otpor!’s campaign to unseat Serbian president Slobodan Milosovic found success in October 2000 when hundreds of thousands of protestors converged upon and took over the Serbian Parliament, effectively ending Milosevic’s rule. After the revolution, Popovic served a term as a member of the Serbian National Assembly 2000-2003.
In 2003, Popovic and other ex-Otpor! activists started the nonprofit educational institution the Centre for Applied Nonviolent Action and Strategies (CANVAS) (www.canvasopedia.org). CANVAS has worked with people from 37 countries, including Zimbabwe, Burma, Iran and Venezuela, spreading knowledge on nonviolent strategies and tactics that was used by the Serbian pro-democracy movement to other non-democratic countries. CANVAS has worked with the activists responsible for successful movements such as the Georgian “Rose Revolution” of 2003 and the Ukrainian “Orange Revolution” of 2004-2005. It also transferred knowledge to Lebanese activists in 2004 to address the crisis after the assassination of Prime Minister Harriri, and assisted participants in the Maldives’ revolution in 2008. Recently CANVAS has worked with April 6th, a key group in the Egyptian nonviolent uprising, as well as other groups from the Middle East.
CANVAS’ teachings are available in a documentary, "Bringing Down a Dictator," featuring Otpor strategies to topple Milosevic. Its manual "Nonviolent Struggle: 50 Crucial Points" was translated into 16 languages, including Farsi and Arabic, and was downloaded 17,000 times from Iran during that country's 2009 protests.
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