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Amanda Bennett: We need a heroic narrative for death
Amanda Benet (Amanda Bennett): Treba nam herojska priča o smrti
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Amanda Benet i njen suprug su bili strastveni i puni života celog svog zajedničkog života, a takvi su bili i na samom kraju. Benet drži simpatični ali u isto vreme i snažan govor, o tome kako za porodice umirućih pacijenata nada u izlečenje ne bi trebalo da sa sobom nosi dijagnozu ‚‚poricanja stvarnosti". Ona nas poziva na stvaranje herojske priče o smrti koja bi upotpunila one koje imamo o životu.
Amanda Bennett - Journalist
In "The Cost of Hope," Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Amanda Bennett brings an investigative angle to the conversation about end-of-life care. Full bio
In "The Cost of Hope," Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Amanda Bennett brings an investigative angle to the conversation about end-of-life care. Full bio
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So I'd like you to come back with me
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Hoću da se vratite sa mnom
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just for a few minutes
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barem na nekoliko minuta
00:17
to a dark night in China,
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u tamnu kinesku noć
00:19
the night I met my husband.
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kada sam upoznala svog supruga.
00:22
It was a city so long ago that it was still called
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Bilo je to u jednom gradu,
toliko davno
toliko davno
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Peking.
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da se grad još uvek zvao Peking.
00:28
So I went to a party.
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Otišla sam na žurku
00:30
I sat down next to a stout, middle-aged man
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i sela pored punačkog,
srednjovečnog čoveka
srednjovečnog čoveka
00:34
with owl glasses and a bow tie,
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sa naočarima sa debelim okvirom
i leptir mašnom
i leptir mašnom
00:37
and he turned out to be a Fulbright scholar,
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za koga se ispostavilo da je
stipendista Fulbrajtovog programa
stipendista Fulbrajtovog programa
00:40
there in China specifically to study
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koji je došao u Kinu
sa namerom da proučava
sa namerom da proučava
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Sino-Soviet relations.
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bilateralne odnose između Kine i Rusije.
00:46
What a gift it was to the eager,
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Njegovo znanje
je došlo kao poručeno
je došlo kao poručeno
00:48
young foreign correspondent that I was then.
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meni, tada poletnom mladom
stranom dopisniku.
stranom dopisniku.
00:51
I'd pump him for information,
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Ispitivala sam ga i upijala informacije,
00:53
I'm mentally scribbling notes
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pravila mentalne zabeleške
00:55
for the stories I plan to write.
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za priče koje sam
htela da napišem.
htela da napišem.
00:57
I talk to him for hours.
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Pričali bismo satima.
00:59
Only months later,
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Tek posle nekoliko meseci
01:03
I discover who he really was.
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sam otkrila ko je on u stvari.
01:05
He was the China representative
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Bio je predstavnik
01:08
for the American Soybean Association.
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Američke asocijacije za soju u Kini.
01:12
"I don't understand. Soybeans?
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‚‚Soja? Ne razumem.
01:16
You told me you were a Fulbright scholar."
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A meni si rekao
da si Fulbrajtov stipendista."
da si Fulbrajtov stipendista."
01:18
"Well, how long would you have talked to me
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‚‚Da li bi uopšte pričala
sa mnom da sam ti rekao
sa mnom da sam ti rekao
01:20
if I told you we're in soybeans?"
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da radim sa sojom?"
01:22
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
01:25
I said, "You jerk."
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Nazvala sam ga kretenom.
01:28
Only jerk wasn't the word I used.
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Samo što to nije baš prava reč
koju sam upotrebila.
koju sam upotrebila.
01:32
I said, "You could've gotten me fired."
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Rekla sam: ‚‚Mogla sam
da dobijem otkaz zbog tebe!"
da dobijem otkaz zbog tebe!"
01:36
And he said, "Let's get married."
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A on me je zaprosio.
01:39
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
01:41
"Travel the world and have lots of kids."
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‚‚Putovaćemo svetom
i imati puno dece."
i imati puno dece."
01:44
So we did.
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Tako je i bilo.
01:46
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
01:48
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
01:53
And what an alive man Terence Bryan Foley
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Terens Brajan Foli se pokazao
01:57
turned out to be.
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kao čovek pun duha.
01:58
He was a Chinese scholar
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Bio je kineski akademik
02:00
who later, in his 60s,
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koji je kasnije,
u svojim šezdesetim
u svojim šezdesetim
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got a Ph.D. in Chinese history.
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doktorirao kinesku istoriju.
02:04
He spoke six languages,
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Govorio je šest jezika,
02:07
he played 15 musical instruments,
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svirao petnaest instrumenata,
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he was a licensed pilot,
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imao pilotsku dozvolu,
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he had once been a San Francisco cable car operator,
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neko vreme je radio
kao vozač tramvaja u San Francisku,
kao vozač tramvaja u San Francisku,
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he was an expert in swine nutrition,
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bio je stručnjak
u polju ishrane svinja,
u polju ishrane svinja,
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dairy cattle, Dixieland jazz, film noir,
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krava muzara, Diksilend džeza,
film noara
film noara
02:21
and we did travel the country, and the world,
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i jesmo proputovali
našom zemljom, pa i planetom.
našom zemljom, pa i planetom.
02:25
and we did have a lot of kids.
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I imali smo mnogo dece.
02:27
We followed my job, and it seemed like
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Pratili smo moju karijeru i činilo se
02:29
there was nothing that we couldn't do.
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kao da ne poštoji ništa što
ne možemo da postignemo.
ne možemo da postignemo.
02:33
So when we found the cancer,
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Kada smo saznali da ima rak
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it doesn't seem strange to us at all
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nije nam se uopšte činilo
čudnim što smo
čudnim što smo
02:39
that without saying a word to each other,
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bez ijedne izgovorene reči
02:41
we believed that,
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oboje verovali da ukoliko
02:44
if we were smart enough
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budemo dovoljno pametni
02:46
and strong enough and brave enough,
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jaki, hrabri
02:51
and we worked hard enough,
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i ukoliko se dovoljno potrudimo
02:53
we could keep him from dying ever.
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mogli bismo da ga
spasimo od smrti - zauvek.
spasimo od smrti - zauvek.
02:58
And for years, it seemed like we were succeeding.
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Godinama nam se činilo
kao da imamo uspeha.
kao da imamo uspeha.
03:02
The surgeon emerged from the surgery.
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Hirurg se pojavio iz operacione sale.
03:05
What'd he say? He said what surgeons always say:
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I šta je rekao?
Ono što uvek i govore:
Ono što uvek i govore:
03:07
"We got it all."
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‚‚Uspeli smo da izvadimo ceo tumor".
03:09
Then there was a setback when the pathologists
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Pojavila se prepreka na putu kada
03:12
looked at the kidney cancer closely.
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su patolozi pregledali
njegov rak bubrega.
njegov rak bubrega.
03:14
It turned out to be a rare,
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Ispostavilo se da je imao redak,
03:16
exceedingly aggressive type,
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izuzetno agresivni tip raka
03:18
with a diagnosis that was almost universally fatal
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sa skoro stoprocentno
fatalnom dijagnozom
fatalnom dijagnozom
03:21
in several weeks at most.
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u roku od nekoliko nedelja
u najboljem slučaju.
u najboljem slučaju.
03:23
And yet, he did not die.
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Ipak, nije umro.
03:27
Mysteriously, he lived on.
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Iznenađujuće, ali preživeo je.
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He coached Little League for our son.
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Bio je trener u timu
male lige našeg sina,
male lige našeg sina,
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He built a playhouse for our daughter.
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napravio kućicu za lutke našoj ćerki.
03:35
And meanwhile, I'm burying myself in the Internet
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U međuvremenu, ja sam
provodila vreme na internetu
provodila vreme na internetu
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looking for specialists.
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u potrazi za specijalistima.
03:40
I'm looking for a cure.
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Tražila sam lek.
03:42
So a year goes by
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Tako je prošla cela godina,
03:44
before the cancer, as cancers do,
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a onda se rak,
kao što obično i biva,
kao što obično i biva,
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reappears,
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vratio
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and with it comes another death sentence,
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i sa njim i još jedna smrtna presuda.
03:52
this time nine months.
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Ovog puta je glasila
devet meseci života.
devet meseci života.
03:54
So we try another treatment, aggressive, nasty.
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Pokušali smo sa novom,
agresivnom i groznom terapijom
agresivnom i groznom terapijom
03:58
It makes him so sick, he has to quit it,
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koja ga je toliko namučila
da smo prestali sa lečenjem.
da smo prestali sa lečenjem.
04:00
yet still he lives on.
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Ponovo je preživeo.
04:03
Then another year goes by.
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Prošla je još jedna godina.
04:05
Two years go by.
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Još dve.
04:06
More specialists.
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Još specijalista.
04:08
We take the kids to Italy.
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Odveli smo decu u Italiju.
04:10
We take the kids to Australia.
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Odveli smo ih i u Australiju.
04:12
And then more years pass,
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Prođe još nekoliko godina
04:15
and the cancer begins to grow.
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i tumor je počeo da raste.
04:17
This time, there's new treatments on the horizon.
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Ovog puta su nam na raspolaganju
novi načini lečenja.
novi načini lečenja.
04:20
They're exotic. They're experimental.
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Egzotičniji, eksperimentalni,
04:22
They're going to attack the cancer in new ways.
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koji će napasti tumor
na neki novi način.
na neki novi način.
04:25
So he enters a clinical trial, and it works.
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Ubačen je u uspešan program
kliničkog ispitivanja lekova.
kliničkog ispitivanja lekova.
04:29
The cancer begins to shrink,
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Tumor je počeo da se smanjuje
04:31
and for the third time,
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i po treći put
04:33
we've dodged death.
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smo uspeli da izbegnemo smrt.
04:37
So now I ask you,
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Sada ja vas pitam
04:40
how do I feel
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šta mislite kako sam se osećala
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when the time finally comes
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kada je konačno došlo vreme
04:45
and there's another dark night,
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i pred nama je još jedna tamna noć
04:48
sometime between midnight and 2 a.m.?
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negde između ponoći i dva ujutru?
04:50
This time it's on the intensive care ward
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Ovaj put se nalazimo
na odeljenju intenzivne nege
na odeljenju intenzivne nege
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when a twentysomething resident
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i stažista od dvadeset i kusur godina
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that I've never met before
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koga nikad u životu nisam videla
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tells me that Terence is dying,
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me obaveštava da će Terens
05:00
perhaps tonight.
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najverovatnije večeras umreti.
05:02
So what do I say when he says,
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Šta mislite šta sam uradila
kada me je pitao
kada me je pitao
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"What do you want me to do?"
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šta želim da urade?
05:07
There's another drug out there.
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Rekla sam da ima još lekova.
05:09
It's newer. It's more powerful.
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Novih, jačih.
05:11
He started it just two weeks ago.
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Leči se tek dve nedelje.
05:14
Perhaps there's still hope ahead.
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Možda još uvek ima nade.
05:17
So what do I say?
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Šta sam rekla?
05:19
I say, "Keep him alive if you can."
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Rekla sam da ga
drže u životu ako mogu.
drže u životu ako mogu.
05:22
And Terence died six days later.
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Terens je preminuo
posle šest dana.
posle šest dana.
05:26
So we fought, we struggled, we triumphed.
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Borili smo se, opirali, pobeđivali.
05:30
It was an exhilarating fight,
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Bila je to uzbudljiva borba
05:31
and I'd repeat the fight today
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i sve bih ponovo isto uradila
05:33
without a moment's hesitation.
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bez imalo premišljanja.
05:36
We fought together, we lived together.
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Živeli smo i borili se zajedno.
05:39
It turned what could have been
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Ono što je moglo da bude
05:41
seven of the grimmest years of our life
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sedam najstrašnijih
godina našeg života,
godina našeg života,
05:44
into seven of the most glorious.
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postalo je sedam najveličanstvenijih.
05:47
It was also an expensive fight.
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To je bila skupa borba.
05:50
It was the kind of fight and the kind of choices
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Takva vrsta borbe i takve odluke,
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that everyone here agrees
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složićete se,
05:54
pump up the cost of end-of-life care,
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cede budžet namenjen
brizi umirućih pacijenata
brizi umirućih pacijenata
05:56
and of healthcare for all of us.
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i zdravstvenog osiguranja svih nas.
05:58
And for me, for us,
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Ja, odnosno nas dvoje
06:01
we pushed the fight right over the edge,
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smo se borili koliko smo mogli,
06:03
and I never got the chance to say to him
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tako da nisam imala
prilike da mu kažem
prilike da mu kažem
06:07
what I say to him now almost every day:
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ono što mu sada često govorim:
06:10
"Hey, buddy, it was a hell of a ride."
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‚‚Hej, druže, bilo nam je
lepo dok je trajalo."
lepo dok je trajalo."
06:13
We never got the chance to say goodbye.
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Nismo imali prilike da se oprostimo
06:16
We never thought it was the end.
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zato što nismo mislili
da mu se bliži kraj.
da mu se bliži kraj.
06:18
We always had hope.
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Nadali smo se.
06:23
So what do we make of all of this?
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Šta možemo da izvučemo
iz mog iskustva?
iz mog iskustva?
06:27
Being a journalist, after Terence died,
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Pošto sam novinar,
nakon Terensove smrti
nakon Terensove smrti
06:31
I wrote a book, "The Cost Of Hope."
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napisala sam knjigu ‚‚Cena nade".
06:34
I wrote it because I wanted to know
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Napisala sam je zato
što sam htela da znam
što sam htela da znam
06:36
why I did what I did,
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zašto sam radila to što sam radila,
06:38
why he did what he did,
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zašto je on radio to što je radio
06:40
why everyone around us did what they did.
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i zašto su ljudi oko nas
radili to što su radili.
radili to što su radili.
06:42
And what did I discover?
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Šta sam otkrila?
06:44
Well, one of the things I discovered is that
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Za početak sam došla do zaključka
06:45
experts think that one answer to
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da stručnjaci misle da se
jedan način da se odreaguje
jedan način da se odreaguje
06:48
what I did at the end was a piece of paper,
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u toj situaciji nalazi
na parčetu papira,
na parčetu papira,
06:51
the advance directive,
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neke vrste biološkog testamenta
koji bi pomogao
koji bi pomogao
06:53
to help families get past the seemingly irrational choices.
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porodicama da se izbore
sa naizgled iracionalnim izborima.
sa naizgled iracionalnim izborima.
06:58
Yet I had that piece of paper.
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Imala sam taj papir kod sebe.
07:02
We both did.
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Oboje smo ga imali.
07:04
And they were readily available.
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Bio nam je lako dostupan.
07:05
I had them right at hand.
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Uvek pri ruci.
07:07
Both of them said the same thing:
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Na oba papira je pisalo jedno te isto:
07:10
Do nothing if there is no further hope.
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ništa ne činiti ukoliko
nema nade za izlečenje.
nema nade za izlečenje.
07:14
I knew Terence's wishes
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Znala sam Terensove želje
07:16
as clearly and as surely as I knew my own.
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jasno i sigurno kao što sam
znala i sopstvene.
znala i sopstvene.
07:20
Yet we never got to no further hope.
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Nije došlo do toga da prestanemo
da se nadamo.
da se nadamo.
07:25
Even with that clear-cut paper in our hands,
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Čak i sa tim parčetom papira u rukama
07:28
we just kept redefining hope.
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mi nismo gubili nadu.
07:32
I believed I could keep him from dying,
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Bila sam uverena da mogu
da ga spasim od smrti
da ga spasim od smrti
07:37
and I'd be embarrassed to say that if I hadn't seen
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i bilo bi me sramota
da to izgovorim da nisam
da to izgovorim da nisam
07:40
so many people and have talked to so many people
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pričala i upoznala gomilu ljudi
07:42
who have felt exactly the same way.
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koji su se isto tako osećali.
07:44
Right up until days before his death,
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Do samog kraja,
poslednjih dana njegovog života
poslednjih dana njegovog života
07:48
I felt strongly
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imala sam snažno
07:52
and powerfully, and, you might say, irrationally,
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i neko bi rekao iracionalno uverenje
07:56
that I could keep him from dying ever.
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da ga mogu spasiti
od smrti - zauvek.
od smrti - zauvek.
08:01
Now, what do the experts call this?
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Kako stručnjaci nazivaju ovo osećanje?
08:04
They say it's denial.
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Kažu da je to poricanje.
08:07
It's a strong word, isn't it?
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Prilično snažna reč, zar ne?
08:09
Yet I will tell you that denial
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Reći ću vam da poricanje istine
08:11
isn't even close to a strong enough word
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nije ni približno odgovarajuća reč
08:16
to describe what those of us
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koja bi objasnila ono kroz šta
08:19
facing the death of our loved ones go through.
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ljudi suočeni sa smrću
voljene osobe prolaze.
voljene osobe prolaze.
08:23
And I hear the medical professionals say,
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Mogu da čujem
medicinske radnike koji govore
medicinske radnike koji govore
08:25
"Well, we'd like to do such-and-such,
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da bi voleli da postupe
na određeni način
na određeni način
08:27
but the family's in denial.
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ali porodice bolesnika poriču istinu.
08:29
The family won't listen to reason.
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Kažu da članovi porodice
ne slušaju glas razuma
ne slušaju glas razuma
08:32
They're in denial.
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i odbijaju da prihvate istinu.
08:34
How can they insist on this treatment at the end?
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Pitaju se zašto i dalje
insistiramo na lečenju.
insistiramo na lečenju.
08:36
It's so clear, yet they're in denial."
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Sve je jasno, a mi i dalje
odbijajamo da vidimo istinu.
odbijajamo da vidimo istinu.
08:39
Now, I think this maybe isn't
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Smatram da to nije
08:41
a very useful way of thinking.
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baš najkorisniji način razmišljanja.
08:44
It's not just families either.
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To se ne odnosi samo
na porodice pacijenata.
na porodice pacijenata.
08:47
The medical professionals too,
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I medicinsko osoblje
08:49
you out there, you're in denial too.
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da, baš vi, i vi poričete istinu.
08:52
You want to help. You want to fix.
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Želite da pomognete,
da popravite stvar.
da popravite stvar.
08:55
You want to do.
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Hoćete da uradite nešto.
08:57
You've succeeded in everything you've done,
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Dovršili ste sve što ste pokušali
09:00
and having a patient die,
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i kada vam pacijenti svejedno umiru
09:02
well, that must feel like failure.
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mora da se osećate kao gubitnici.
09:05
I saw it firsthand.
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Znam iz ličnog iskustva.
09:07
Just days before Terence died,
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Nekoliko dana pre Terensove smrti,
09:10
his oncologist said,
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onkolog mi je rekao:
09:12
"Tell Terence that better days are just ahead."
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da prenesem Terensu
da ga čekaju bolji dani.
da ga čekaju bolji dani.
09:15
Days before he died.
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To je bilo nekoliko dana
pre nego što je umro.
pre nego što je umro.
09:17
Yet Ira Byock,
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Ipak, Ajra Bajok,
09:19
the director of palliative medicine at Dartmouth
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direktor palijativne medicine
na Dartmutu,
na Dartmutu,
09:21
said, "You know, the best doctor in the world
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mi je rekao da ni najbolji lekar
na svetu
na svetu
09:24
has never succeeded in making anyone immortal."
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nije nijednog čoveka učinio besmrtnim.
09:29
So what the experts call "denial," I call "hope,"
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Ono što stručnjaci smatraju poricanjem,
za mene je nada.
za mene je nada.
09:35
and I'd like to borrow a phrase
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Volela bih da sada pozajmim termin
09:38
from my friends in software design.
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koji koriste softverski inženjeri.
09:41
You just redefine denial and hope,
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Ako promenimo značenja
reči ‚‚poricanje" i ‚‚nada",
reči ‚‚poricanje" i ‚‚nada",
09:44
and it becomes a feature of being human.
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one postaju samo jedne
od karakteristika čoveka.
od karakteristika čoveka.
09:48
It's not a bug.
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Nada nije greška
u kompjuterskom programu.
u kompjuterskom programu.
09:49
It's a feature.
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Ona je samo jedna
od njegovih karakteristika.
od njegovih karakteristika.
09:52
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
09:55
So we need to think more constructively
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Moramo da podrobnije razmislimo
09:59
about this very common, very profound
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o ovoj čestoj, veoma dubokoj
10:03
and very powerful human emotion.
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i jakoj ljudskoj emociji.
10:07
It's part of the human condition,
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Ona je deo ljudskog postojanja
10:09
and yet our system and our thinking
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a ipak naš sistem i način razmišljanja
10:12
isn't built to accommodate it.
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ne može da se nosi sa njom.
10:15
So Terence told me a story on that long-ago night,
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Terens mi je ispričao priču
te davne noći
te davne noći
10:18
and I believed it.
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u koju sam ja poverovala.
10:20
Maybe I wanted to believe it.
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Možda sam htela da poverujem u nju.
10:23
And during Terence's illness, I, we,
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Tokom Terensove bolesti smo,
10:28
we wanted to believe the story
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hteli smo da verujemo u priču
10:30
of our fight together too.
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o zajedničkoj borbi.
10:33
Giving up the fight -- for that's how it felt,
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Ako odustanemo,
takav je bio osećaj,
takav je bio osećaj,
10:36
it felt like giving up --
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činilo nam se da odustajemo
10:38
meant giving up not only his life
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ne samo od njegovog života
10:41
but also our story,
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već i od naše priče -
10:45
our story of us as fighters,
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priče o nama kao borcima,
10:47
the story of us as invincible,
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priče o nepobedivim nama.
10:50
and for the doctors, the story of themselves
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Za doktore je to značilo
da odustanu od priče
da odustanu od priče
10:52
as healers.
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o njima kao isceliteljima.
10:55
So what do we need?
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Šta je ono što nam treba?
10:57
Maybe we don't need a new piece of paper.
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Možda nam ne treba
novo parče papira.
novo parče papira.
11:00
Maybe we need a new story,
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Možda nam treba nova priča
11:03
not a story about giving up the fight
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koja nije priča o odustajanju,
11:07
or of hopelessness,
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o beznađu,
11:09
but rather a story of victory and triumph,
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več priča o pobedi i trijumfu,
11:13
of a valiant battle and, eventually,
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o viteškoj borbi i naposletku,
11:18
a graceful retreat,
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dostojanstvenom povlačenju.
11:20
a story that acknowledges
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To bi bila priča u kojoj se priznaje
11:23
that not even the greatest general defeats every foe,
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da čak ni najbolji general
ne može da pobedi svakog neprijatelja
ne može da pobedi svakog neprijatelja
11:27
that no doctor has ever succeeded
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kao što ni najbolji doktor nije uspeo
11:29
in making anyone immortal,
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da ikoga učini besmrtnim
11:32
and that no wife, no matter how hard she tried,
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i da nijedna žena,
ma kako se trudila,
ma kako se trudila,
11:38
has ever stopped even the bravest,
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nije spasila čak ni najhrabrijeg,
11:42
wittiest and most maddeningly lovable husband
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najdovitljivijeg čoveka
koga je nemoguće ne voleti,
koga je nemoguće ne voleti,
11:47
from dying when it was his time to go.
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od smrti kada mu je bilo vreme.
11:51
People did mention hospice,
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Ljudi su savetovali da ga pošaljem
11:53
but I wouldn't listen.
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u dom za palijativnu negu,
ali sam ja odbijala.
ali sam ja odbijala.
11:56
Hospice was for people who were dying,
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To mesto je za ljude na samrti,
12:00
and Terence wasn't dying.
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a Terens nije umirao.
12:03
As a result, he spent just four days in hospice,
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Na kraju je proveo samo
četiri dana u domu
četiri dana u domu
12:06
which I'm sure, as you all know,
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što je, kao što već znate
12:08
is a pretty typical outcome,
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i bilo za očekivati,
12:10
and we never said goodbye
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a mi nismo stigli da se oprostimo
12:11
because we were unprepared for the end.
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zato što nismo bili spremni za kraj.
12:14
We have a noble path to curing the disease,
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Imamo plemeniti cilj izlečenja bolesti,
12:18
patients and doctors alike,
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kako pacijenti, tako i lekari,
12:21
but there doesn't seem to be
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ali, čini se da ne postoji
12:23
a noble path to dying.
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dostojanstveni način da se umre.
12:25
Dying is seen as failing,
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Smrt izjednačujemo sa gubitništvom.
12:28
and we had a heroic narrative
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Imali smo mit
12:31
for fighting together,
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o herojskoj borbi,
12:33
but we didn't have a heroic narrative for letting go.
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ali ne i o herojskim
suočavanjem sa smrću.
suočavanjem sa smrću.
12:38
So maybe we need a narrative
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Možda nam je neophodna priča
12:42
for acknowledging the end, and for saying goodbye,
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koja bi nam pomogla
da prihvatimo kraj i oprostimo se.
da prihvatimo kraj i oprostimo se.
12:46
and maybe our new story will be
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Možda će tada naša priča biti priča
12:48
about a hero's fight, and a hero's goodbye.
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o borbi i opraštanju
koji su dostojni heroja.
koji su dostojni heroja.
12:53
Terence loved poetry,
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Terens je voleo poeziju
12:55
and the Greek poet Constantine Cavafy
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a grčki pesnik Konstantin Kavafi
12:59
is one of my favorite poets.
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je jedan od mojih omiljenih pesnika.
13:01
So I'll give you a couple lines from him.
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Evo nekoliko njegovih stihova.
13:04
This is a poem about Mark Antony.
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Ova pesma je o Marku Antoniju
13:06
You know Mark Antony, the conquering hero,
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Znate Marka Antonija,
heroja i osvajača?
heroja i osvajača?
13:09
Cleopatra's guy?
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Kleopatrinog tipa?
13:11
Actually, one of Cleopatra's guys.
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To jest, jednog od njenih tipova.
13:13
And he's been a pretty good general.
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A bio je i solidan general.
13:16
He's won all the fights,
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Osvojio je sve bitke
u kojima je učestvovao,
u kojima je učestvovao,
13:17
he's eluded all the people that are out to get him,
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utekao svima koji su ga jurili
13:19
and yet this time, finally,
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i naposletku je
13:21
he's come to the city of Alexandria
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stigao u Aleksandriju
13:23
and realized he's lost.
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i shvatio da je izgubio bitku.
13:24
The people are leaving. They're playing instruments.
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Ljudi odlaze, sviraju instrumente,
13:26
They're singing.
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pevaju,
13:27
And suddenly he knows he's been defeated.
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a on shvata da je poražen.
13:30
And he suddenly knows
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Konačno shvata
13:32
he's been deserted by the gods,
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da bogovi više nisu
na njegovoj strani
na njegovoj strani
13:35
and it's time to let go.
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i da je vreme da prestane da se bori.
13:37
And the poet tells him what to do.
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Pesnik mu govori šta mu je činiti.
13:39
He tells him how to say a noble goodbye,
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Govori mu da se
dostojanstveno oprosti,
dostojanstveno oprosti,
13:42
a goodbye that's fit for a hero.
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onako kako priliči jednom heroju.
13:46
"As if long-prepared,
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‚‚Kao da si spreman godinama,
13:48
as if courageous,
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kao junak,
13:51
as it becomes you
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kao što priliči tebi
13:54
who were worthy of such a city,
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što si bio zaslužan takvog jednog grada,
13:56
approach the window with a firm step,
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priđi prozoru sigurna koraka
13:58
and with emotion,
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i slušaj sa uzbuđenjem
14:01
but not with the entreaties
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ali ne proklinjući
14:03
or the complaints of a coward,
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ili tužeći poput kukavice,
14:06
as a last enjoyment,
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kao poslednje svoje zadovoljstvo
14:08
listen to the sounds,
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slušaj zvuke
14:10
the exquisite instruments of the musical troops,
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i sjajne instrumente muzičara
14:13
and bid her farewell,
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i pozdravi je,
14:16
the Alexandria you are losing."
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Aleksandriju koju si izgubio."
14:20
That's a goodbye for a man who was larger than life,
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To je poslednji pozdrav čoveka
koji je bio veći od samog života,
koji je bio veći od samog života,
14:24
a goodbye for a man
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poslednji pozdrav čoveka
14:26
for whom anything,
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kome se ništa,
14:28
well, almost anything,
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pa, skoro ništa
14:31
was possible,
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nije činilo nemogućim,
14:33
a goodbye for a man who kept hope alive.
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čoveka koji nije gubio nadu.
14:36
And isn't that what we're missing?
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Zar nije to ono što nam nedostaje?
14:38
How can we learn that people's decisions
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Kako to da ljudi donose odluke
14:40
about their loved ones
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o njima dragim osobama
14:42
are often based strongly, powerfully,
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često na osnovu snažnih,
14:45
many times irrationally,
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iracionalnih osećanja,
14:48
on the slimmest of hopes?
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baziranih na najtanjoj mogućoj nadi?
14:51
The overwhelming presence of hope
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Nada je nadmoćna
14:54
isn't denial.
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i nije isto što i poricanje.
14:55
It's part of our DNA as humans,
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Ona je deo naše DNK
14:58
and maybe it's time our healthcare system --
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i možda je krajnje vreme
da naš zdravstveni sistem -
da naš zdravstveni sistem -
15:00
doctors, patients, insurance companies, us,
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lekari, pacijenti, osiguranje,
mi sami
mi sami
15:05
started accounting for the power of that hope.
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shvatimo snagu nade.
15:09
Hope isn't a bug.
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Nada nije greška u programu.
15:11
It's a feature.
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Ona je karakteristika programa.
15:13
Thank you.
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Hvala na pažnji.
15:16
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Amanda Bennett - JournalistIn "The Cost of Hope," Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Amanda Bennett brings an investigative angle to the conversation about end-of-life care.
Why you should listen
Amanda Bennett is the Executive Editor of Projects and Investigations for Bloomberg News. Previously she served for three years as the Managing Editor of projects for The Oregonian in Portland and was a reporter for The Wall Street Journal for more than 20 years.
In 1997 Bennett shared the Pulitzer Prize for national reporting for a Wall Street Journal investigation on the struggle against AIDS, and in 2001 received a second Pulitzer Prize, for public service, as the lead of a team at The Oregonian. In 2010 Bennett was elected as co-Chairman of the Pulitzer Prize Board.
Bennett has written six books. Her most recent book, The Cost of Hope, is part-memoir, part-investigative report, about her seven-year struggle within the American healthcare system to save her husband from cancer.
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