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Tristram Wyatt - Zoologist
Do humans have pheromones? Tristram Wyatt is on the case. A researcher at Oxford, Wyatt is interested in the evolution of pheromones throughout the animal kingdom.

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Tristram Wyatt wants to understand the messages that animals send with their smell. At Oxford, he researches the intersection of pheromone evolution and animal behavior, particularly in mammals. He's interested in the distinction between pheromones, the chemical signals a species produces, and each individual's signature mixture of distinct molecules. The zoologist has discovered some surprising biological coincidences along the way — like the fact that Asian elephants have the same female sex pheromones as 140 species of moths.

Wyatt is the author of Pheromones and Animal Behavior.

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Tristram Wyatt: The smelly mystery of the human pheromone

崔斯特 瑞姆悦: 人类费洛蒙的气味之谜

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我们的气味是否让我们性感?科学家说对的 - 费洛蒙从腋窝发出,传递吸引力的化学信号给潜在配偶。但是,尽管你可能听说过,没有确凿的研究证实人类有这些气味分子。在这个大开眼界的演讲中,动物学家崔斯特瑞姆悦解释了当前费洛蒙研究的根本缺陷,并分享他希望在未来的解锁迷人的、挽救生命的气味知识。
- Zoologist
Do humans have pheromones? Tristram Wyatt is on the case. A researcher at Oxford, Wyatt is interested in the evolution of pheromones throughout the animal kingdom. Full bio

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"Pheromone费洛蒙" is a very powerful强大 word.
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“费洛蒙”是一种非常强大的物质。
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It conjures浮现 up sex性别, abandon放弃, loss失利 of control控制,
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它激起性欲,使人放纵或失去控制,
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and you can see, it's very important重要 as a word.
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因此它是一种非常强大的物质。
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But it's only 50 years年份 old. It was invented发明 in 1959.
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但它只有50岁,在1959年被发明。
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Now, if you put that word into the web卷筒纸,
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如果你在网络中搜索,
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as you may可能 have doneDONE,
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也许你已经搜索过了,
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you'll你会 come up with millions百万 of hits点击,
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你会得到百万的搜索结果。
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and almost几乎 all of those sites网站 are trying to sell you
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而且几乎所有的那些网站都试图
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something to make you irresistible不可抗拒
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卖给你些 10 美元左右的
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for 10 dollars美元 or more.
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让人不能抗拒的东西。
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Now, this is a very attractive有吸引力 idea理念,
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这些广告格外吸引人,
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and the molecules分子 they mention提到
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并且他们所提到的分子们
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sound声音 really science-y科学-Y.
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听起来很有科学原理。
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They've他们已经 got lots of syllables音节.
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那些单词都有很多音节。
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It's things like androstenol雄甾烯醇, androstenone
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就像雄甾烯醇,雄烯酮(androstenol, androstenone)。
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or androstadienone雄甾二烯酮.
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或雄烯二酮(androstenedione)的单词一样。
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It gets得到 better and better,
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接着那些广告越来越吸引人,
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and when you combine结合 that with white白色 lab实验室 coats大衣,
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当你看到穿着白大褂的科学家时,
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you must必须 imagine想像 that there is
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你一定会想
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fantastic奇妙 science科学 behind背后 this.
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这东西蕴含深奥的科学。
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But sadly可悲的是, these are fraudulent骗人的 claims索赔
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不幸的是,那些只是欺诈性的宣传
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supported支持的 by dodgy躲闪的 science科学.
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有伪科学撑腰罢了。
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The problem问题 is that, although虽然 there are many许多
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问题出在于,即使有很多
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good scientists科学家们 working加工 on what they think
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优秀的科学家在进行研究
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are human人的 pheromones费洛蒙,
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他们所认为的人类费洛蒙,
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and they're publishing出版 in respectable可敬 journals期刊,
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并将其发表于值得信赖的杂志中,
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at the basis基础 of this,
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但归根到底,
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despite尽管 very sophisticated复杂的 experiments实验,
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除去那些非常复杂的实验,
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there really is no good science科学 behind背后 it,
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还没有真正的科学得以证实,
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because it's based基于 on a problem问题,
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因为费洛蒙是基于一个问题所猜想出的物质,
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which哪一个 is nobody没有人 has systematically系统 gone走了 through通过
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人类产生数以千计的气味分子,
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all the odors气味 that humans人类 produce生产 --
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但还没有人系统地
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and there are thousands数千 of
molecules分子 that we give off.
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研究过人类产生的所有气味。
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We're mammals哺乳动物. We produce生产 a lot of smell.
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我们是哺乳类动物。我们产生许多气味。
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Nobody没有人 has gone走了 through通过 systematically系统
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没有人通过系统研究
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to work out which哪一个 molecules分子 really are pheromones费洛蒙.
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找出过真正的费洛蒙。
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They've他们已经 just plucked拨弦 a few少数,
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他们摘取了一些样品,
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and all these experiments实验 are based基于 on those,
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但所有的实验也只是基于那些而已,
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but there's no good evidence证据 at all.
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并没有什么确凿的证据。
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Now, that's not to say
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那并不是说
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that smell is not important重要 to people.
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那气味对人类不重要。
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It is, and some people are real真实 enthusiasts发烧友,
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有些人对此非常痴迷。
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and one of these was Napoleon拿破仑.
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其中之一便是拿破仑。
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And famously著名, you may可能 remember记得
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你也许会记得,
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that out on the campaign运动 trail落后 for war战争,
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拿破仑在战争后
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he wrote to his lover情人, Empress皇后 Josephine约瑟芬,
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写给他的情人Empress Josephine
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saying, "Don't wash. I'm coming未来 home."
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说道 “别洗。我很快回家。”
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(Laughter笑声)
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(笑)
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So he didn't want to lose失去 any of her richness丰富
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所以他不想在他回家之前
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in the days before he'd他会 get home,
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让她失去她的体味。
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and it is still, you'll你会 find websites网站
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你可以在网上找到
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that offer提供 this as a major重大的 quirk俏皮话.
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销售这种怪癖的链接。
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At the same相同 time, though虽然,
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但是,与此同时
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we spend about as much money
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我们花费同样多的金钱,
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taking服用 the smells气味 off us
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先是除去我们的体味,
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as putting them back on in perfumes香水,
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接着又重新擦上香水。
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and perfumes香水 are a multi-billion-dollar数十亿美元 business商业.
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香水可是创造了数十亿美元的产业。
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So what I want to do in the rest休息 of this talk
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所以我想在接下来的时间里
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is tell you about what pheromones费洛蒙 really are,
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告诉你们什么是费洛蒙,
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tell you why I think we would expect期望
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告诉你们为什么
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humans人类 to have pheromones费洛蒙,
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人类会有费洛蒙,
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tell you about some of the
confusions混乱 in pheromones费洛蒙,
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告诉你们关于费洛蒙的误解。
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and then finally最后, I want to end结束 with
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最后
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a promising有希望 avenue大街 which哪一个 shows节目 us
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告诉你们一条我们应当走下去的
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the way we ought应该 to be going.
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研究道路。
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So the ancient Greeks希腊人 knew知道
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古希腊人知道
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that dogs小狗 sent发送 invisible无形 signals信号 between之间 each other.
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狗给彼此发送隐形的信号。
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A female dog in heat
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发情期的母狗
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sent发送 an invisible无形 signal信号 to male dogs小狗
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发送隐形的信号
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for miles英里 around,
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给数英里内的公狗。
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and it wasn't a sound声音, it was a smell.
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这个信号不是声音,而是气味。
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You could take the smell from the female dog,
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如果你沾上了母狗的这种气味
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and the dogs小狗 would chase the cloth.
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公狗便会尾随你。
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But the problem问题 for everybody每个人
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但是
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who could see this effect影响
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人们可以看到这种现象,
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was that you couldn't不能 identify鉴定 the molecules分子.
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却不能确认这种分子,
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You couldn't不能 demonstrate演示 it was chemical化学.
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你不能展示这是一种化学物质。
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The reason原因 for that, of course课程,
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当然,这其中原因是
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is that each of these animals动物
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这些动物
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produces产生 tiny quantities数量,
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只有一点点这种气味产生。
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and in the case案件 of the dog,
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拿狗的情况来说,
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males男性 dogs小狗 can smell it, but we can't smell it.
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公狗可以闻到,我们人类却不行。
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And it was only in 1959 that a German德语 team球队,
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一个德国的团队花了20年时间寻找这种分子,
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after spending开支 20 years年份 in
search搜索 of these molecules分子,
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终于首次在1959年
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discovered发现, identified确定, the first pheromone信息素,
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发现并且确定了第一个费洛蒙。
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and this was the sex性别 pheromone信息素 of a silk moth.
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这是蚕蛾的性费洛蒙。
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Now, this was an inspired启发 choice选择
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Adolf Butenandt团队选择蚕蛾
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because he needed需要 half a million百万 moths飞蛾
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是因为他们需要数近五十万的蚕蛾
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to get enough足够 material材料 to do the chemical化学 analysis分析.
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来提取足够的化学物质以进行分析。
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But he created创建 the model模型
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但是他建立了一个模型
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for how you should go about pheromone信息素 analysis分析.
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来启示以后的研究者应当怎样进行费洛蒙的研究。
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He basically基本上 went through通过 systematically系统,
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他系统地
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showing展示 that only the molecule分子 in question
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展示了那个唯一存在问题的分子
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was the one that stimulated刺激 the males男性,
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就是刺激雄性的分子,
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not all the others其他.
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排除了无关的分子,
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He analyzed分析 it very carefully小心.
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他仔细地分析了
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He synthesized综合 the molecule分子,
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并且合成了这些分子,
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and then tried试着 the synthesized综合
molecule分子 on the males男性
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他将这些合成分子用于雄性
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and got them to respond响应 and showed显示 it was,
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并且获取他们的反馈,
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indeed确实, that molecule分子.
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以确定这些分子是费洛蒙。
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That's closing关闭 the circle.
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由此完成了这一难题。
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That's the thing which哪一个 has
never been doneDONE with humans人类:
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但如此系统,并且如此强展示性的实验
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nothing systematic系统的, no real真实 demonstration示范.
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并未应用于人类。
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With that new concept概念,
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但这是个新概念,
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we needed需要 a new word,
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我们需要一个新名词,
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and that was the word "pheromone信息素,"
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这就是“费洛蒙”。
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and it's basically基本上 transferred转入 excitement激动,
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费洛蒙在个体之间
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transferred转入 between之间 individuals个人,
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传递兴奋。
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and since以来 1959, pheromones费洛蒙 have been found发现
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自1959年费洛蒙发现以来,
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right the way across横过 the animal动物 kingdom王国,
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这个在雄性与雌性间传递的概念
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in male animals动物, in female animals动物.
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已在动物王国中证实,
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It works作品 just as well underwater水下
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同时在水生生物中同样适用,
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for goldfish金鱼 and lobsters龙虾.
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比如金鱼和龙虾。
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And almost几乎 every一切 mammal哺乳动物 you can think of
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几乎所用的哺乳动物
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has had a pheromone信息素 identified确定,
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都有确定的费洛蒙,
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and of course课程, an enormous巨大 number of insects昆虫.
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当然, 还包括数量巨大的昆虫。
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So we know that pheromones费洛蒙 exist存在
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所以我们知道费洛蒙
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right the way across横过 the animal动物 kingdom王国.
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存在于动物王国中。
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What about humans人类?
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那么人类世界呢?
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Well, the first thing, of course课程,
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首先,当然
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is that we're mammals哺乳动物,
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我们是哺乳动物,
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and mammals哺乳动物 are smelly.
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哺乳动物都是有体味的。
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As any dog owner所有者 can tell you,
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养狗的人会告诉你,
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we smell, they smell.
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我们有体味,狗也有。
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But the real真实 reason原因 we might威力 think
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但是,我们认为
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that humans人类 have pheromones费洛蒙
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人类有体味的真实原因是
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is the change更改 that occurs发生 as we grow增长 up.
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在我们成长中体味的变化。
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The smell of a room房间 of teenagers青少年
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青少年房间的气味
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is quite相当 different不同
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与小孩的房间气味
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from the smell of a room房间 of small children孩子.
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是很不一样的。
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What's changed? And of course课程, it's puberty青春期.
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什么变化了呢?当然,是青春期。
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Along沿 with the pubic耻骨 hair头发
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暴露的毛发
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and the hair头发 in the armpits腋下,
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和腋下的毛发,
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new glands腺体 start开始 to secrete分泌 in those places地方,
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腺体产生新的物质,
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and that's what's making制造 the change更改 in smell.
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这些都是体味改变的原因。
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If we were any other kind of mammal哺乳动物,
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如果我们是其它种类的哺乳动物
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or any other kind of animal动物,
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或者其它种类的动物,
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we would say,
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我们会说,
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"That must必须 be something to do with pheromones费洛蒙,"
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“这一定和费洛蒙有关”,
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and we'd星期三 start开始 looking properly正确.
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然后我们开始研究它。
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But there are some problems问题, and this is why,
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但是这其中有一些问题。
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I think, people have not looked看着 for
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我认为,这就是人们为什么
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pheromones费洛蒙 so effectively有效 in humans人类.
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不愿意如此深入的研究费洛蒙对于人类的作用。
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There are, indeed确实, problems问题.
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这确实有几个问题。
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And the first of these
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首先,
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is perhaps也许 surprising奇怪.
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这个原因有可能会使人惊讶,
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It's all about culture文化.
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那就是文化。
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Now moths飞蛾 don't learn学习 a lot
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蚕蛾不知道
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about what is good to smell, but humans人类 do,
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什么是好的气味,而人类知道。
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and up to the age年龄 of about four,
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在人类四岁以前,
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any smell, no matter how rancid,
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任何气味,不管有多糟糕,
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is simply只是 interesting有趣.
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都是有趣的。
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And I understand理解 that the major重大的 role角色 of parents父母
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我理解父母的一项主要工作
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is to stop kids孩子 putting their fingers手指 in poo便便,
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就是阻止小孩将手指放到大便里面,
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because it's always something nice不错 to smell.
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因为他们想闻那个气味。
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But gradually逐渐 we learn学习 what's not good,
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但是逐渐的,我们认识到什么气味是糟糕的。
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and one of the things we learn学习
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与此同时,
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at the same相同 time as what is not good
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我们认识到
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is what is good.
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什么气味是好的。
06:50
Now, the cheese起司 behind背后 me
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现在,在我身后的
06:52
is a British英国的, if not an English英语, delicacy美味.
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是一块来自大不列颠的(而不是英格兰)精美的奶酪。
06:56
It's ripe成熟 blue蓝色 Stilton斯蒂尔顿.
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这是一块成熟的蓝斯蒂尔顿(以强烈的气味和味道著名)。
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Liking喜欢 it is incomprehensible费解的 to
people from other countries国家.
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就像其它国家的人可能无法接受这种奶酪一样,
07:04
Every一切 culture文化 has its own拥有 special特别 food餐饮
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每一种文化都有其独特的食物
07:07
and national国民 delicacy美味.
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和闻名全国的美食。
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If you were to come from Iceland冰岛,
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如果你来自冰岛,
07:11
your national国民 dish
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最著名的美食是
07:13
is deep rotted腐烂 shark鲨鱼.
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深发酵鲨鱼肉。
07:16
Now, all of these things are acquired后天 tastes口味,
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所有这些都需要口味的适应,
07:18
but they form形成 almost几乎 a badge徽章 of identity身分.
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但这和成长环境有关,
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You're part部分 of the in-group在组.
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和所属群体有关。
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The second第二 thing is the sense of smell.
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第二是嗅觉。
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Each of us has a unique独特 odor气味 world世界,
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我们每个人都有独特的气味世界。
07:33
in the sense that what we smell,
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谈到我们闻到了什么,
07:35
we each smell a completely全然 different不同 world世界.
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我们闻到的完全不同。
07:38
Now, smell was the hardest最难
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嗅觉是最难以
07:40
of the senses感官 to crack裂纹,
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破解的感觉,
07:42
and the Nobel诺贝尔 Prize awarded颁发 to
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2004 年的诺贝尔奖
07:44
Richard理查德 Axel阿克塞尔 and Linda琳达 Buck巴克
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颁给了
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was only awarded颁发 in 2004
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Richard Axel 和 Linda Buck,
07:48
for their discovery发现 of how smell works作品.
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因为他们发现了嗅觉是怎样工作的。
07:50
It's really hard,
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这确实非常困难,
07:52
but in essence本质, nerves神经 from the brain
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但在本质上,
07:54
go up into the nose鼻子
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大脑的神经延伸至鼻子
07:57
and on these nerves神经 exposed裸露 in the nose鼻子
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以及鼻子上类似传感器的
07:59
to the outside air空气 are receptors受体,
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暴露在空气中的神经。
08:02
and odor气味 molecules分子 coming未来 in on a sniff吸气
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气味分子通过吸气
08:05
interact相互作用 with these receptors受体,
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与传感器接触。
08:07
and if they bond, they send发送 the nerve神经 a signal信号
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如果他们键合,他们给神经传递一个信号,
08:12
which哪一个 goes back into the brain.
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这个信号将到达大脑。
08:14
We don't just have one kind of receptor接收器.
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我们不是只有一种传感器,
08:16
If you're a human人的, you have about 400
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人类有400种不同类型
08:18
different不同 kinds of receptors受体,
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的传感器,
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and the brain knows知道 what you're smelling
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并且大脑根据传感器
08:23
because of the combination组合 of receptors受体
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和刺激的神经的组合
08:25
and nerve神经 cells细胞 that they trigger触发,
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知道你闻到了什么,
08:27
sending发出 messages消息 up to the brain
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然后用一种组合的方式
08:29
in a combinatorial组合 fashion时尚.
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将这个信息送达大脑。
08:32
But it's a bit more complicated复杂,
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但它更复杂一点,
08:33
because each of those 400
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因为那400个传感器中的每一个
08:35
comes in various各个 variants变种,
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都有不同的变种,
08:37
and depending根据 which哪一个 variant变种 you have,
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取决于你所拥有的种类,
08:39
you might威力 smell coriander香菜, or cilantro胡荽叶, that herb草本植物,
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你可能会闻到芫荽,香菜或者香草,
08:43
either as something delicious美味的 and savory香香
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这种好吃又开胃的东西,
08:46
or something like soap肥皂.
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或者类似香皂的气味。
08:48
So we each have an individual个人 world世界 of smell,
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所以我们有不同的嗅觉世界。
08:51
and that complicates复杂化 anything
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这让嗅觉研究
08:52
when we're studying研究 smell.
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变得复杂。
08:55
Well, we really ought应该 to talk about armpits腋下,
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现在,我们应该谈到腋窝,
08:57
and I have to say that I do
have particularly尤其 good ones那些.
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我可以肯定地说我有好腋窝
09:01
Now, I'm not going to share分享 them with you,
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但我不会和你们分享。
09:03
but this is the place地点 that most people
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不过许多人从腋窝
09:05
have looked看着 for pheromones费洛蒙.
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寻找费洛蒙。
09:06
There is one good reason原因,
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这是有原因的。
09:08
which哪一个 is, the great apes类人猿 have armpits腋下
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拥有腋窝
09:11
as their unique独特 characteristic特性.
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是人猿的独特特征。
09:14
The other primates灵长类动物 have scent香味 glands腺体
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其它灵长类动物
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in other parts部分 of the body身体.
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在身体的其它部位拥有分泌腺。
09:18
The great apes类人猿 have these armpits腋下
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人猿的腋窝
09:20
full充分 of secretory分泌 glands腺体
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充满了分泌腺,
09:22
producing生产 smells气味 all the time,
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这些分泌腺时时刻刻散发着气味,
09:25
enormous巨大 numbers数字 of molecules分子.
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这里面包含了数量巨大的分子。
09:28
When they're secreted分泌 from the glands腺体,
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当它们从腺体里散发出来时,
09:30
the molecules分子 are odorless无臭的.
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这些分子是无臭无味的
09:32
They have no smell at all,
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绝对没有气味
09:34
and it's only the wonderful精彩 bacteria
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这些我们熟悉和喜爱的气味的产生
09:36
growing生长 on the rainforest雨林 of hair头发
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是由于雨林中
09:38
that actually其实 produces产生 the smells气味
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附着在毛发上的细菌
09:40
that we know and love.
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导致的。
09:42
And so incidentally顺便, if you want to reduce减少
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所以,
09:44
the amount of smell,
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如果你想减少气味,
09:45
clear-cutting皆伐 your armpits腋下
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除去腋窝的毛发
09:47
is a very effective有效 way of reducing减少
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是减少细菌温床的
09:49
the habitat栖息地 for bacteria,
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最行之有效的方法,
09:51
and you'll你会 find they remain less smelly
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并且你会发现这样可以
09:53
for much longer.
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使减少气味的效果保持得更久。
09:55
But although虽然 we've我们已经 focused重点 on armpits腋下,
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但是虽然我们只着眼于腋窝,
09:58
I think it's partly部分地 because they're the least最小
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我认为部分原因是
09:59
embarrassing尴尬 place地点 to go and ask people for samples样本.
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索取样品不是那么的难为情。
10:03
There is actually其实 another另一个 reason原因 why we might威力 not
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实际上我们不能从腋窝
10:06
be looking for a universal普遍 sex性别 pheromone信息素 there,
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寻找到通用的性费洛蒙的另一个原因是
10:09
and that's because 20 percent百分
of the world's世界 population人口
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世界上20%的人
10:12
doesn't have smelly armpits腋下 like me.
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没有像我这样的腋窝分泌。
10:16
And these are people from China中国, Japan日本,
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他们来自中国,日本,
10:20
Korea韩国, and other parts部分 of northeast东北 Asia亚洲.
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朝鲜,以及东北亚的其它地区。
10:22
They simply只是 don't secrete分泌 those odorless无臭的 precursors前体
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他们根本不分泌那些
10:26
that the bacteria love to use to produce生产 the smells气味
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细菌用于产生气味的前导体,
10:30
that in an ethnocentric种族中心主义 way we always thought of
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而自认为高大的我们认为
10:33
as characteristic特性 of armpits腋下.
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那是腋窝的特征。
10:35
So it doesn't apply应用 to 20 percent百分 of the world世界.
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但是并不适用于20%的人口。
10:39
So what should we be doing
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所以我们在人类费洛蒙的研究中
10:42
in our search搜索 for human人的 pheromones费洛蒙?
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应该做什么呢?
10:45
I'm fairly相当 convinced相信 that we do have them.
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我相信人类有费洛蒙。
10:48
We're mammals哺乳动物, like everybody每个人 else其他
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我们是哺乳动物,
10:50
who's谁是 a mammal哺乳动物, and we probably大概 do have them.
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就像其它的哺乳动物一样,我们确实有费洛蒙。
10:54
But what I think we should do
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但是我认为我们应该
10:55
is go right back to the beginning开始,
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回到最开始的研究,
10:57
and basically基本上 look all over the body身体.
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从身体的各个部位寻找费洛蒙。
10:59
No matter how embarrassing尴尬,
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不管这是多么的令人难为情,
11:01
we need to search搜索 and go for the first time
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我们应该从无人涉足的区域
11:05
where no one else其他 has dared tread.
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第一次寻找和研究。
11:07
It's going to be difficult,
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这将会非常困难,
11:08
it's going to be embarrassing尴尬, but we need to look.
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并且令人难为情,但是我们应当这么做。
11:11
We also need to go back to the ideas思路
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我们应该回到
11:14
that Butenandt布特南特 used when he
was studying研究 the silk moth.
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Butenandt 对蚕蛾的研究。
11:17
We need to go back and look systematically系统
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我们应该回到系统地研究
11:20
at all the molecules分子 that are being存在 produced生成,
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所有分泌出来的分子,
11:23
and work out which哪一个 ones那些 are really involved参与.
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寻找出真正有关联的那些来。
11:25
It isn't good enough足够 simply只是 to pluck采摘 a couple一对
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仅仅让一些夫妇说“他们有用”
11:27
and say, "They'll他们会 do."
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是不够的。
11:29
We have to actually其实 demonstrate演示
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我们需要展示
11:30
that they really have the effects效果 we claim要求.
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它们确实有我们宣称的效果。
11:33
There is one team球队 that I'm
actually其实 very impressed印象深刻 by.
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我对一个团队有非常深刻的印象。
11:36
They're in France法国, and their previous以前 success成功
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他们来自法国,他们曾经成功地
11:40
was identifying识别 the rabbit兔子 mammary乳腺 pheromone信息素.
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确定了兔子的乳腺费洛蒙。
11:44
They've他们已经 turned转身 their attention注意 now
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现在他们将注意力转移到
11:47
to human人的 babies婴儿 and mothers母亲.
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人类婴儿和母亲。
11:50
So this is a baby宝宝 having a drink of milk牛奶
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这个婴儿正在
11:53
from its mother's母亲 breast乳房.
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吸嚅母亲的乳房。
11:56
Her nipple乳头 is completely全然 hidden
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她的乳房完全被
11:58
by the baby's宝宝 head,
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婴儿的脑袋挡住,
11:59
but what you'll你会 notice注意 is a white白色 droplet水滴
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但是你会注意到
12:03
with an arrow箭头 pointing指点 to it,
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箭头指向的白色小点,
12:04
and that's the secretion分泌 from the areolar乳晕 glands腺体.
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那是乳晕腺的分泌。
12:08
Now, we all have them, men男人 and women妇女,
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不管男性还是女性,我们都有这种腺体,
12:11
and these are the little bumps颠簸 around the nipple乳头,
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就是乳头周围的小肿块
12:13
and if you're a lactating哺乳期 woman女人,
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哺乳期的女性
12:15
these start开始 to secrete分泌.
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会产生这种腺体的分泌物。
12:18
It's a very interesting有趣 secretion分泌.
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这是非常有意思的分泌物。
12:20
What BenoistBenoist SchaalSchaal and his team球队 developed发达
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Benoist Schaal和团队
12:23
was a simple简单 test测试 to investigate调查
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用一个非常简单的实验来研究
12:26
what the effect影响 of this secretion分泌 might威力 be,
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这种分泌物可能产生的作用。
12:29
in effect影响, a simple简单 bioassay生物测定.
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实际上,只是一个简单的生物测定。
12:32
So this is a sleeping睡眠 baby宝宝,
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这是一个熟睡的婴儿,
12:34
and under its nose鼻子, we've我们已经 put a clean清洁 glass玻璃 rod竿.
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我们将一个干净的玻璃滴管放在他的鼻子边。
12:39
The baby宝宝 remains遗迹 sleeping睡眠,
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这个婴儿仍然熟睡,
12:41
showing展示 no interest利益 at all.
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没有显示任何的兴趣。
12:44
But if we go to any mother母亲
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如果我们提取任何一个母亲
12:46
who is secreting分泌 from the areolar乳晕 glands腺体,
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的乳晕腺分泌物,
12:48
so it's not about recognition承认,
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这不是亲子鉴定,
12:50
it can be from any mother母亲,
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这可以来自任何一个母亲,
12:52
if we take the secretion分泌
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如果我们提取这种分泌物,
12:53
and now put it under the baby's宝宝 nose鼻子,
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将它放到婴儿的鼻子边,
12:56
we get a very different不同 reaction反应.
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我们看到截然不同的反应。
12:58
It's a connoisseur's行家 reaction反应 of delight,
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这是行家喜悦的表现,
13:01
and it opens打开 its mouth
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他张开嘴
13:03
and sticks out its tongue
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伸出舌头
13:05
and starts启动 to suck吮吸.
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开始吮吸。
13:07
Now, since以来 this is from any mother母亲,
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既然这是来自其她的母亲,
13:09
it could really be a pheromone信息素.
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很有可能是费洛蒙,
13:11
It's not about individual个人 recognition承认.
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而不是个体识别。
13:13
Any mother母亲 will do.
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任何一个母亲都可以做到。
13:15
Now, why is this important重要,
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为什么这个实验如此重要,
13:16
apart距离 from being存在 simply只是 very interesting有趣?
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而不仅仅只是有意思?
13:19
It's because women妇女 vary变化
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女性具有
13:21
in the number of areolar乳晕 glands腺体 that they have,
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不同的乳晕腺数目。
13:23
and there is a correlation相关 between之间 the ease缓解
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哺乳宝宝的容易程度
13:26
with which哪一个 babies婴儿 start开始 to suckle哺乳
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和母亲具有的乳晕腺数目
13:28
and the number of areolar乳晕 glands腺体 she has.
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是正相关的。
13:30
It appears出现 that the more secretions分泌物 she's got,
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母亲拥有越多的分泌物,
13:33
the more likely容易 the baby宝宝 is to suckle哺乳 quickly很快.
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宝宝就越容易哺乳。
13:36
If you're a mammal哺乳动物,
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对于哺乳动物,
13:38
the most dangerous危险 time in life
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刚出生的几个小时
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is the first few少数 hours小时 after birth分娩.
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是最危险的。
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You have to get that first drink of milk牛奶,
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你必须有奶喝,
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and if you don't get it, you won't惯于 survive生存.
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如果没有,就难以存活,
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You'll你会 be dead.
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也就是会死亡。
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Since以来 many许多 babies婴儿 actually其实 find it difficult
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对于大多数婴儿,
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to take that first meal膳食,
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第一次哺乳是困难的,
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because they're not getting得到 the right stimulus刺激物,
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因为他们没有得到适当的刺激。
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if we could identify鉴定 what that molecule分子 was,
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如果我们知道其分子,
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and the French法国 team球队 are being存在 very cautious谨慎,
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尽管这个法国团队非常谨慎,
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but if we could identify鉴定 the molecule分子,
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如果我们可以确定其分子式
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synthesize合成 it, it would then mean
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并且合成它,这意味着
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premature过早 babies婴儿 would be more likely容易 to suckle哺乳,
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早产儿更有可能哺乳,
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and every一切 baby宝宝 would have a better chance机会
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每一个婴儿更有可能
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of survival生存.
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存活。
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So what I want to argue争论 is this is one example
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我想说的是,这个例子
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of where a systematic系统的, really scientific科学 approach途径
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使用了系统的、科学的方法,
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can actually其实 bring带来 you a real真实 understanding理解
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可以让你理解
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of pheromones费洛蒙.
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费洛蒙。
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There could be all sorts排序 of medical interventions干预措施.
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这可以是某种医疗干预,
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There could be all sorts排序 of things
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或者某种
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that humans人类 are doing with pheromones费洛蒙
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我们尚且不知道
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that we simply只是 don't know at the moment时刻.
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费洛蒙的用法。
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What we need to remember记得 is pheromones费洛蒙
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我们要记住的是
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are not just about sex性别.
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费洛蒙不只和性有关
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They're about all sorts排序 of things to do
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它们和哺乳动物
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with a mammal's哺乳动物 life.
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的各个方面都有关系。
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So do go forward前锋 and do search搜索 for more.
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所以应当有更多的研究。
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There's lots to find.
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还有很多要发现。
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Thank you very much.
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非常感谢。
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(Applause掌声)
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(掌声)
Translated by Li Li
Reviewed by Jing Peng

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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Tristram Wyatt - Zoologist
Do humans have pheromones? Tristram Wyatt is on the case. A researcher at Oxford, Wyatt is interested in the evolution of pheromones throughout the animal kingdom.

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Tristram Wyatt wants to understand the messages that animals send with their smell. At Oxford, he researches the intersection of pheromone evolution and animal behavior, particularly in mammals. He's interested in the distinction between pheromones, the chemical signals a species produces, and each individual's signature mixture of distinct molecules. The zoologist has discovered some surprising biological coincidences along the way — like the fact that Asian elephants have the same female sex pheromones as 140 species of moths.

Wyatt is the author of Pheromones and Animal Behavior.

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