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Eve Ensler: Happiness in body and soul
伊芙‧恩斯勒: 身體和心靈的快樂
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伊芙‧恩斯勒, 『陰道獨白』的創作者, 談到她由與友人討論更年期的話題開始, 再把女性的各種性經驗搬上舞台, 繼而演變成全球性的終止對女性暴力的運動, 在這過程中, 由討論, 到參與, 到行動, 她也分享了如何找到屬於自己的快樂。
Eve Ensler - Playwright, activist
Eve Ensler created the ground-breaking "Vagina Monologues," whose success propelled her to found V-Day -- a movement to end violence against women and girls everywhere. Full bio
Eve Ensler created the ground-breaking "Vagina Monologues," whose success propelled her to found V-Day -- a movement to end violence against women and girls everywhere. Full bio
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I bet you're worried.
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我敢說你很擔心
00:27
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
00:29
I was worried. That's why I began this piece.
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我也很擔心,這就是為什麼我開始這作品
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I was worried about vaginas. I was worried what we think about vaginas,
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我擔心陰道, 我擔心我們怎樣看待陰道
00:39
and even more worried that we don't think about them.
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但更擔心我們沒有想起陰道
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I was worried about my own vagina.
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我擔心自己的陰道
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It needed a context, a culture, a community of other vaginas.
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它的存在還需要其他陰道的存在, 還有陰道的文化, 背景, 以及陰道的社群
00:50
There is so much darkness and secrecy surrounding them.
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只是它們被很多的黑暗和秘密包圍著
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Like the Bermuda Triangle, nobody ever reports back from there.
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就好像百慕達三角, 從來沒有人回來回報那裡的情況
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
01:00
In the first place, it's not so easy to even find your vagina.
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第一, 你其實並不容易可以找到自己的陰道
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Women go days, weeks, months, without looking at it.
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女性往往年年, 月月, 日日也沒有好好的看過它
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I interviewed a high-powered businesswoman;
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我曾訪過一個很能幹的女實業家
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she told me she didn't have time.
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她跟我說她沒有時間
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"Looking at your vagina," she said, "is a full day's work."
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『要看自己的陰道』, 她說: 『那要花一整天的時間呢!』
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
01:16
"You've got to get down there on your back, in front of a mirror,
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『你需要彎下你的背, 在一塊鏡子前面
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full-length preferred. You've got to get in the perfect position,
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最好是全身鏡子。你需要找到一個完美的姿勢
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with the perfect light, which then becomes shadowed by the angle you're at.
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有著完美的燈光, 可是光線又很快的給你的身影遮住了
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You're twisting your head up, arching your back, it's exhausting."
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你需要扭轉你的頭, 拱起你的腰, 這真是很累人的.....』
01:29
She was busy; she didn't have time.
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她很忙, 她沒有時間
01:32
So I decided to talk to women about their vaginas.
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所以我決定去跟不同的女性去談談她們的陰道
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They began as casual vagina interviews,
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由一些很輕鬆的陰道訪談開始
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and they turned into vagina monologues.
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後來這些變成了『陰道獨白』
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I talked with over 200 women. I talked to older women,
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我曾經跟超過二百位女士談過, 我跟年老的女人談
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younger women, married women, lesbians, single women;
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年輕的女人, 己婚的女人, 同性戀者, 獨身的女人
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I talked to corporate professionals, college professors, actors, sex workers;
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我跟公司的企業人士談, 大學教授, 演員, 性工作者
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I talked to African-American women, Asian-American women,
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我跟非裔美國女性談, 亞裔美國女性
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Native-American women, Caucasian women, Jewish women.
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印第安女性, 白種女性, 猶太女性
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OK, at first women were a little shy, a little reluctant to talk.
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好了, 起初的時候, 他們都有點害羞, 有點不願意去講
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Once they got going, you couldn't stop them.
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但當她們開始了, 你便不能讓她們停止
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Women love to talk about their vaginas -- they do.
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女人都喜歡去講關於她們的陰道, 她們是喜歡的
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Mainly because no one's ever asked them before.
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只是因為之前沒有人問過她們而已
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
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Let's just start with the word "vagina" -- vagina, vagina.
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讓我們由陰道這個字眼開始---陰道, 陰道, 陰道
02:22
It sounds like an infection at best. Maybe a medical instrument.
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它聽起來好像是一種傳染病似的, 或好像是一件醫療用具
02:27
"Hurry, nurse, bring the vagina."
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『喂, 快點, 護士, 拿個陰道來。』
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
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Vagina, vagina, vagina. It doesn't matter how many times
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陰道, 陰道, 陰道, 你把這字眼說過多少次都沒所謂
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you say the word, it never sounds like a word you want to say.
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你說這字眼, 它總不會聽起來是讓你想說的字眼
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It's a completely ridiculous, totally un-sexy word.
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這是一個完全荒謬, 完全不性感的字眼
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If you use it during sex, trying to be politically correct,
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假如你在進行性行為時運用這個字眼, 試著用最正確的語言
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"Darling, would you stroke my vagina," you kill the act right there.
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『親愛的, 你可以撫摸我的陰道嗎?』 你一定當場讓對方失去"性"趣
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(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
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I'm worried what we call them and don't call them.
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我會擔心我們叫它, 也擔心我們不提及它
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In Great Neck, New York, they call it a "pussy-cat."
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在紐約的大內克, 他們叫它做『小貓咪』
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A woman told me there, her mother used to tell her,
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有一個女人告訴我, 她媽媽曾經告訴她:
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"Don't wear panties, dear, underneath your pajamas.
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『親愛的不要穿內褲, 在你的睡衣內
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You need to air out your pussy-cat."
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要讓你的小貓咪透透氣。』
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(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
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In Westchester they call it a "pooky," in New Jersey a "twat."
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在韋斯特切斯特, 他們叫它做卜姬, 在新澤西, 它叫做屄
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There's powder-box, derriere, a pooky, a poochy, a poopy,
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還有粉盒, 私處, 下身, 豆腐,
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a poopaloo, a pooninana, a padepachetchki, a pow, and a peach.
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鮑魚, 果度, 妹妹, 梅花穴
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(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
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There's toadie, dee dee, nishi, dignity, coochie snorcher, cooter,
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這是鼠溪地, 桃花洞, 私密地, 花蕊
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labi, gladis siegelman, va, wee-wee, whore-spot, nappy dugout,
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下面, 秘密花園, v v , 黑森林, 松林深處
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mungo, ghoulie, powder-box, a "mimi" in Miami,
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尿道, 生命之道, 粉盒, 在邁阿密叫做咪咪
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a "split knish" in Philadelphia, and a "schmende" in the Bronx.
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在費城叫做『分裂了的餡餅』, 在布隆克斯區就叫做『史密迪』
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(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
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I am worried about vaginas.
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我因為掛念陰道
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This is how the "Vagina Monologues" begins.
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這就是『陰道獨白』的開始。
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But it really didn't begin there; it began with a conversation with a woman.
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但它也不是真正的在這裡開始, 它開始在我和一個女人的對談
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We were having a conversation about menopause,
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一個關於更年期的對談
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and we got onto the subject of her vagina --
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接著便提到有關她的陰道.....
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which you'll do if you're talking about menopause.
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談到更年期, 你都會談到陰道
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And she said things that really shocked me about her vagina --
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她說到她的陰道, 實在讓我非常震驚
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that it was dried-up and finished and dead -- and I was kind of shocked.
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就是它會變得乾涸, 會完結和死亡, 而讓我感到震驚
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And so I said to a friend casually, "Well, what do you think about your vagina?"
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所以我用輕鬆的語氣問她, 『那, 你怎樣看你的陰道?』
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And that woman said something more amazing,
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那個女人就說了一些很有趣的東西
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and then the next woman said something more amazing,
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接著下一個女人說了些更有趣的東西
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and before I knew it, every woman was telling me
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在我了解它之前, 每一個女人都跟我說
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I had to talk to somebody about their vagina because they had an amazing story,
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我需要去跟其他人談談她們的陰道, 因為每一個人都有一個有趣的陰道故事
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and I was sucked down the vagina trail.
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於是, 我便陷進了這個陰道的旅程之中了
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(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
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And I really haven't gotten off it. I think if you had told me
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我到現在仍然未能離開這旅程, 我想如果在我年輕的時候, 你告訴我
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when I was younger that I was going to grow up, and be in shoe stores,
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當我長大之後, 有一天在一家鞋店
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and people were going to scream out, "There she is, the Vagina Lady!"
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有人會指著我尖叫: 『就是她, 這個陰道的女人。』
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I don't know that that would have been my life ambition.
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我也不知道自己是否還會把這個變成我的人生使命
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(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
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But I want to talk a little bit about happiness and the relationship
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但我仍想講一些有關我遇過的快樂, 以及認識過的人
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to this whole vagina journey because
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在整個陰道旅程內, 因為
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it has been an extraordinary journey that began eight years ago.
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這八年真是一個不平凡的旅程
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I think before I did the "Vagina Monologues"
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我想我在開始陰道獨白之前
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I didn't really believe in happiness.
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我是從不曾真正的相信這世界是有快樂的
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I thought that only idiots were happy, to be honest.
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我以為只有傻瓜才會快樂, 是真的
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I remember when I started practicing Buddhism 14 years ago,
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我記得當我十四年前開始學習佛教的道理
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and I was told that the end of this practice was to be happy,
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別人告訴我, 我修練結束後便會變得快樂
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I said, "How could you be happy and live in this world of suffering
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我說: 『怎樣才可以在這個充滿苦難的塵世活得快樂,
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and live in this world of pain?" I mistook happiness for a lot of other things,
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以及怎樣在痛苦中生存?』我錯誤的以為快樂是許多其他的東西,
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like numbness or decadence or selfishness.
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好像是麻木, 或是頹廢, 或是自私
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And what happened through the course of the "Vagina Monologues"
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而在經歷過陰道獨白的過程中所發生的事
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and this journey is I think I have come to understand
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以及這個旅程, 我想我開始明白
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a little bit more about happiness.
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多一點有關快樂的事了。
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There're three qualities I want to talk about.
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我想談談這當中的三個特質
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One is seeing what's right in front of you, and talking about it,
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第一是 看到你面前的東西, 和談及它
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and stating it. I think what I learned from talking about the vagina,
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以及說明它。我想在談及陰道
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and speaking about the vagina, is it was the most obvious thing --
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以及說出陰道的過程, 我知道它是最明顯的----
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it was right in the center of my body and the center of the world --
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它就在我身體的中央, 也是世界的中心
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and yet it was the one thing nobody talked about.
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但卻是一件沒有人會談及的事
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The second thing is that what talking about the vagina did
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第二件事是, 在我們談及陰道的時候
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is it opened this door which allowed me to see
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也是開了一扇門, 容讓我去看到
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that there was a way to serve the world to make it better.
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我可以怎樣去服侍這世界而令它變得更好
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And that's where the deepest happiness has actually come from.
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而這就是最深刻的快樂的來源
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And the third principle of happiness, which I've realized recently.
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第三個快樂的原則, 我還是最近才發現的
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Eight years ago, this momentum and this energy, this "V-wave" started --
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八年前, 這股陰道的旋風和能量開始了---
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and I can only describe it as a "V-wave" because, to be honest,
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我只能說它是陰道旋風 因為坦白的,
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I really don't understand it completely; I feel at the service of it.
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我並不完全了解它, 我覺得我需要配合這旋風
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But this wave started, and if I question the wave,
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當這旋風開始了, 假如我去懷疑它
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or try to stop the wave or look back at the wave,
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或是嘗試去制止它, 或是回望它
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I often have the experience of whiplash
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我便常有一種給鞭打了
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or the potential of my neck breaking. But if I go with the wave,
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或是給問吊的感覺。但假如我順著這旋風
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and I trust the wave and I move with the wave, I go to the next place,
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我信任它, 我跟它同行, 我會到達彼岸
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and it happens logically and organically and truthfully.
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它就是如此的合理地, 有機地, 真實的在發生著
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And I started this piece, particularly with stories and narratives,
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我由這裡開始, 尤其是她們的故事和描述
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and I was talking to one woman and that led to another woman
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我跟一個女人談, 然後是另一個
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and that led to another woman, and then I wrote those stories down
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再轉到另一個, 接著我寫下她們的故事,
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and I put them out in front of other people.
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並在別人面前展示出來
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And every single time I did the show at the beginning,
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每次當我表演的時候
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women would literally line up after the show
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許多女人都會在表演後自發地排成隊伍
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because they wanted to tell me their stories.
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因為她們都想把自己的故事告訴我
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And at first I thought, "Oh great, I'll hear about wonderful orgasms,
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起初的時候, 我想: 『太好了, 我可以聽到絕妙的高潮,
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and great sex lives, and how women love their vaginas."
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很精彩的性生活, 以及她們怎樣愛惜自己的陰道。』
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But in fact, that's not what women lined up to tell me.
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但事實是, 這是都不是她們想排隊告訴我的事
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What women lined up to tell me was how they were raped,
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她們排隊告訴我她們怎樣給別人強姦
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and how they were battered, and how they were beaten,
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她們怎樣被虐待, 以及怎樣被毒打
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and how they were gang-raped in parking lots,
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她們怎樣在停車場內給輪姦
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and how they were incested by their uncles.
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以及她們被自己的叔叔亂倫強暴
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And I wanted to stop doing the "Vagina Monologues"
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我曾想過不要再寫『陰道獨白』了
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because it felt too daunting. I felt like a war photographer
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因為實在是太嚇人了。我覺得自己好像是戰地攝影師
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who takes pictures of terrible events, but doesn't intervene on their behalf.
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只在戰場上拍下可怕的照片, 但卻沒有做任何事去制止這些事情的發生
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And so in 1997, I said, "Let's get women together.
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所以在一九九七年, 我說: 『不如我們集合女性的力量,
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What could we do with this information that all these women are being violated?"
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當我們收集了這些女性被侵犯的資料, 究竟我們可以做些什麼?』
07:41
And it turned out, after thinking and investigating,
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最後, 在不住的思考和研究之後
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that I discovered -- and the UN has actually said this recently --
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我發現, 同時聯合國最近也說到 ---
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that one out of every three women on this planet
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地球上有三份之一的女性,
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will be beaten or raped in her lifetime.
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在她們的人生之中, 曾經遭遇過被虐打或是被強暴
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That's essentially a gender; that's essentially a resource of the planet, which is women.
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這地球上最基本的性別, 最基本的資源, 就是女性
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So in 1997 we got all these incredible women together and we said,
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所以在一九九七年, 我們集合了所有了不起的女性, 我們說:
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"How can we use the play, this energy, to stop violence against women?"
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『我們可以怎樣運用舞台劇, 這股能量, 去制止對女性的暴力?』
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And we put on one event in New York City, in the theater,
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於是, 我們在紐約舉行了一個活動, 在舞台上
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and all these great actors came -- from Susan Sarandon,
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很多出名的演員都來了 --- 由蘇珊薩蘭登,
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to Glenn Close, to Whoopi Goldberg -- and we did one performance
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到格倫克洛斯, 到胡比高拔 --- 我們做了這個演出
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on one evening, and that catalyzed this wave, this energy.
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這一個晚上, 也催生了這股旋風, 這股能量
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And within five years, this extraordinary thing began to happen.
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就在接下來的五年間, 一些很不平凡的事情發生了
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One woman took that energy and she said, "I want to bring this wave,
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一位女士接收了這份能量然後說: 『我想把這旋風,
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this energy, to college campuses," and so she took the play
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這能量, 帶到大學的校園裡』, 於是她負責了這個舞台劇
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and she said, "Let's use the play and have performances of the play
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她也說: 『不如我們用這個演出,
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once a year, where we can raise money to stop violence against women
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每年一次的, 為這世上每一個當地的社群籌款
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in local communities all around the world."
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去制止對女性的暴力。』
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And in one year, it went to 50 colleges, and then it expanded.
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一年之內, 曾在五十間學院裡演出, 然後再擴大
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And over the course of the last six years, it's spread
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在過去的六年之間, 它傳出去
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and it's spread and it's spread and it's spread around the world.
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傳出去, 傳出去, 並且傳到全世界
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What I have learned is two things. One: that the epidemic
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我在當中學到兩件事, 第一, 原來這場對女性暴力的疫情
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of violence towards women is shocking; it's global;
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是相當驚人的, 也是全球性的
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it is so profound and it is so devastating,
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它是如此的深刻, 也是如此的具有破壞力
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and it is so in every little pocket of every little crater,
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就好像我們的每個社會的口袋裡
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of every little society, that we don't even recognize it
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都有一座小火山, 我們甚至不曾發現它
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because it's become ordinary. This journey has taken me to Afghanistan,
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就是因為它是如此的普遍。這旅程把我帶到阿富汗
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where I had the extraordinary honor and privilege to go into
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隨著塔利班, 讓我有特殊的榮幸可以走到
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parts of Afghanistan under the Taliban -- I was dressed in a burqa --
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阿富汗的內部---- 我穿著她們的布卡 (那種全身包裹的罩袍)
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and I went in with an extraordinary group called the
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我也走進了那個不平凡的
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Revolutionary Association of the Women of Afghanistan,
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阿富汗婦女革命聯盟
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and I saw firsthand how women had been stripped
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於是, 我可以第一手的看到
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of every single right that was possible to strip women of --
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當地怎樣剝削婦女的每一個權利
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from being educated, to being employed, to being
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由被剝削受教育, 被聘用, 甚至
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actually allowed to eat ice cream.
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被禁止吃冰淇淋
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For those of you who don't know it, it was illegal to eat ice cream under the Taliban.
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也許你們都不知道, 在塔利班統治下吃冰淇淋是犯法的
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And I actually saw and met women who had been flogged
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我是真的看過婦女因為被捉到吃
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by being caught eating vanilla ice cream.
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香草冰淇淋而受鞭笞
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And I was taken to the secret ice cream-eating place in a little town,
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我曾被帶到一個在小城內秘密吃冰淇淋的地方
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where we went to a back room, and women were seated
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我們去到一個很隱蔽的房間, 跟著一群女人坐下
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and a curtain was pulled around us, and they were served vanilla ice cream.
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圍上了布簾, 於是她們便被分發了香草冰淇淋
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And women lifted their burqas and ate this ice cream,
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那些女人掀起了她們的面紗, 在吃她們自己的冰淇淋
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and I don't think I ever understood pleasure until that moment,
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直到那一刻, 我才明白她們的真正滿足
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and how women have found a way to keep their pleasure alive.
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以及她們怎樣去令自己的滿足能够實現出來
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It has taken me, this journey, to Islamabad, where I have
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在這個旅程, 我到了伊斯蘭馬巴德
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witnessed and met women with their faces melted off.
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我遇過看過那些臉容被毀的婦女
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It has taken me to Juarez, Mexico, where I was a week ago,
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一星期前, 我在墨西哥的華瑞茲城,
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where I have literally been there in parking lots
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我在當地的停車場
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where bones of women have washed up and been dumped
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發現有女性的骨頭被清洗之後, 被丟棄在
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next to Coca-Cola bottles.
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一堆可樂樽的旁邊
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It has taken me to universities
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我也去到很多的大學
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all over this country where girls are date-raped and drugged.
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看到女孩子在約會當中被強姦和下毒
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I have seen terrible, terrible, terrible violence.
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我看過很恐佈, 很恐佈, 很恐佈的暴力
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But I have also recognized, in the course of seeing that violence,
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但我也發現, 在看到這些暴力的過程中
10:44
that being in the face of things and seeing actually
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除了事情的表面之外, 我更真實的看到:
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what's in front of us is the antidote to depression and to a feeling
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在面前的, 是對個人的抑鬱
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that one is worthless and has no value.
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個人的沒價值感, 以及沒能力感的解藥
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Because before the "Vagina Monologues,"
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因為在『陰道獨白』之前
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I will say that 80 percent of my consciousness was closed off
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我會說我八成的意識並沒有留意
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to what was really going on in this reality.
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現實中真正發生的事情
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And that closing-off closed off my vitality and my life energy.
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這種跟世界隔絕的情況也封閉了我的生命力和活力
11:08
What has also happened is in the course of these travels --
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這旅程也真正的在影響著我 ---
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and it's been an extraordinary thing -- is that every single place
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這是一件很不平凡的事-- 在世界上
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that I have gone to in the world, I have met a new species.
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每一個我去過的地方, 我都遇到新人類
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And I really love hearing about all these species at the bottom of the sea.
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我是真的很喜歡聽到那些新人類他們藏在海底故事
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And I was thinking about how being with these
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我也在想, 怎樣可以把不同的陰道故事
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extraordinary people on this particular panel
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配合到這地球上這群不平凡的人
11:26
that it's beneath, beyond, and between,
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她們之間, 以及她們所超越的
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and the vagina kind of fits into all those categories.
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不同的範疇。
11:32
(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
11:33
But one of the things I've seen is this species --
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但在這群新人類之中, 我看到一件事
11:36
and it is a species, and it is a new paradigm,
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這是一種新的人類, 新的典範
11:39
and it doesn't get reported in the press or in the media
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只是新聞或媒體沒有報導過
11:41
because I don't think good news ever is news,
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因為我想好消息大概不是什麼的新聞吧
11:45
and I don't think people who are transforming the planet
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同時我也想他們改變世界的故事
11:47
are what gets the ratings on TV shows.
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也大概不能為電視節目帶來高收視
11:50
But every single country I have been to -- and in the last six years
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但每一個我去過的地方, 在過去的六年
11:53
I've been to about 45 countries, and many tiny little villages and cities and towns --
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我曾去過四十五個國家, 城市和小鎮,
11:58
I have seen something what I've come to call "vagina warriors."
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我曾見過那些我會稱為『陰道勇士』
12:02
A "vagina warrior" is a woman, or a vagina-friendly man,
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『陰道勇士』可以是一個女人, 也可以是一個善待陰道的男人
12:06
who has witnessed incredible violence or suffered it,
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他們看過, 或是經歷過暴力
12:10
and rather than getting an AK-47 or a weapon of mass destruction
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不是拿著AK-47手槍, 或是大規模破壞的武器
12:14
or a machete, they hold the violence in their bodies;
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也不是拿著大砍刀, 他們把暴力存在身體內
12:19
they grieve it; they experience it; and then they go out and devote
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他們為此傷痛, 他們經驗傷痛, 繼而他們走出去, 並且貢獻
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their lives to making sure it doesn't happen to anybody else.
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自己的生命, 為的是讓這些暴力事情, 不要再在別人身上發生
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I have met these women everywhere on the planet.
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我在地球的每一個地方都遇見過這樣的女性
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And I want to tell a few stories because I believe that
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我想講一些她們的故事, 因為我相信
12:33
stories are the way that we transmit information,
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故事是一種傳遞訊息的方法
12:36
where it goes into our bodies. And I think that one of the things
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能讓訊息走進我們的身體, 身同感受。我覺得自己
12:39
about being at TED that's been very interesting
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在TED 這裡, 有點有趣
12:42
is that I live in my body a lot, and I don't live in my head very much anymore.
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因為我是一個活在身體的人, 我是很少用腦來生活的
12:46
And this is a very heady place.
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但這是一個十分有腦的地方
12:48
And it's been really interesting to be in my head
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對我來說, 我覺得用腦的生活也真是特別
12:51
for the last two days; I've been very disoriented --
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所以在過去的兩天, 我都是十分的迷失方向----
12:53
(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
12:54
because I think the world, the V-world, is very much in your body.
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因為我認為這個世界, 這個有關陰道的世界, 是屬於身體的
12:58
It's a body world, and the species really exists in the body,
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這是一個身體的世界, 而人類是的確存在於身體之中
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and I think there's a real significance in us
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我想這也是十分重要的
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attaching our bodies to our heads -- that that separation
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讓我們的身體連接上我們的腦袋----因為這種分離
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has created a divide that is often separating purpose from intent.
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會製造一種分裂, 這樣會令目標和動機變得不一致
13:13
And the connection between body and head often brings those things into union.
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而身心合一才可以讓我們變得完整
13:19
I want to talk about three particular people
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我想談談我所遇過的三個特別的人物
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that I've met, vagina warriors, who really transformed my understanding
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她們是『陰道勇士』, 她們改變了我對
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of this whole principle and species,
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整件事, 以及對人類的理解
13:27
and one is a woman named Marsha Lopez.
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其中的一個女人名叫馬什洛佩茲
13:30
Marsha Lopez was a woman I met in Guatemala.
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她是一個我在危地馬拉認識的女人
13:33
She was 14 years old, and she was in a marriage
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她只有十四歲, 已婚
13:36
and her husband was beating her on a regular basis,
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她的丈夫經常會虐打她
13:39
and she couldn't get out because she was addicted to the relationship
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但她不能離開他, 因為她已經沈溺在這關係裡
13:43
and she had no money. Her sister was younger than her
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而且她沒有錢。她的妹妹
13:46
and she applied -- we had a "stop rape" contest a few years ago in New York --
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在數年前參加了我們一個在紐約舉辦的『終止強姦』的比賽--
13:51
and she applied, hoping that she would become a finalist
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她參加了, 希望她能够進入決賽
13:54
and she could bring her sister.
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那她便可以帶她姊姊到來
13:56
She did become a finalist; she brought Marsha to New York.
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她真的進入了決賽, 並且帶馬什來到了紐約
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And at that time we did this extraordinary V-Day
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就在這時, 我們在麥迪遜廣場做了一個十分特別的V日子活動
14:02
at Madison Square Garden where we sold out the entire testosterone-filled dome,
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整個熱鬧的場館, 擠滿了
14:07
18,000 people standing up to say
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一萬八千人站在那裡
14:09
"yes" to vaginas, which was really a pretty incredible transformation.
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向陰道歡呼, 這真是一個美妙得難以置信的轉化
14:13
And she came, and she witnessed this, and she decided
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馬什來到了, 她目睹了, 也決定了
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that she would go back and leave her husband,
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回去之後, 她便會離開她的丈夫
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and that she would bring V-Day to Guatemala.
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並且會把V日子帶到危地馬拉
14:20
She was 21 years old. I went to Guatemala and she had sold out
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當她二十一歲的時候, 我去了危地馬拉, 她讓整個
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the National Theater of Guatemala.
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危地馬拉國家大劇院都座無虛席
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And I watched her walk up on stage in her red short dress, and high heels,
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我望著她穿了紅色的裙子走上台, 還有高跟鞋
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and she stood there and she said, "My name is Marsha.
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她站在那裡, 她說: 『我的名字叫馬什
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I was beaten by my husband for five years.
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我被我的丈夫虐打了五年,
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He almost murdered me. I left and you can too."
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他差點殺了我, 我離開了, 你也可以。』
14:41
And the entire 2,000 people went absolutely crazy.
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在場的二千人都為她變得瘋狂
14:45
There's a woman named Esther Chavez
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這裡有一個女人名叫以斯帖
14:47
who I met in Juarez, Mexico. And Esther Chavez
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我在墨西哥的華瑞茲城遇到她的, 以斯帖
14:50
was a brilliant accountant in Mexico City; she was 72 years old;
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是墨西哥城裡一個很出色的會計師, 她已經七十二歲了
14:53
and she was planning to retire.
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她亦打算退休
14:55
She went to Juarez to take care of an ailing aunt, and over the course of it,
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她去了華瑞茲城去照顧一個生病的姨姨, 在這個過程中
15:00
she began to discover what was happening to the murdered
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她開始發現當地一些被殺
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and disappeared women of Juarez.
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和失蹤女性的事
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She gave up her life; she moved to Juarez;
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她放棄了她的生計, 她搬去了華瑞茲城
15:08
she started to write the stories which documented the disappeared women.
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她開寫下及紀錄那些失蹤女人的故事
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300 women have disappeared
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在這邊境的城市, 有三百個女人失蹤了
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in a border town because they're brown and poor.
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只因為她們是黑人, 以及貧窮
15:16
There has been no response to the disappearance,
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對於她們的失蹤, 人們都沒有反應
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and not one person has been held accountable.
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也沒有人需要為這事負上責任
15:20
She began to document it; she opened a center called Casa Amiga;
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她開始去記錄這些事情, 她也開了一間中心名叫Casa Amiga,
15:25
and in six years, she has literally brought this
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六年裡, 她卒之
15:27
to the consciousness of the world.
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讓世界意識到當地的情況
15:29
We were there a week ago, when there were 7,000 people on the street,
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我們在一星期前到了當地, 當時有七千人
15:32
and it was truly a miracle. And as we walked through the streets,
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就像我們一樣的走在街上, 這真是一個奇蹟
15:36
the people of Juarez, who normally don't even come into the streets
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一般來說, 華瑞茲城的人是不會上街的
15:39
because the streets are so dangerous, literally stood there and wept
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因為街上實在是太危險了, 他們就是站在街上, 哭著
15:42
to see that other people from the world had showed up
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的看到這世界上有其他人
15:45
for that particular community.
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竟然為這個特別的社區而出現
15:48
There's another woman named Agnes. And Agnes, for me,
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還有另外的一位女人名叫阿格尼斯, 而阿格尼斯, 對我來說
15:52
epitomizes what a vagina warrior is.
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她就是代表什麼是一個『陰道勇士』
15:54
I met her three years ago in Kenya. And Agnes was mutilated as a little girl,
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我三年前在肯雅認識她, 當她還是一個小女孩時,
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she was circumcised against her will
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她被迫進行了女性的割禮
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when she was 10 years old, and she really made a decision
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那時她只得十歲, 於是, 她認真的決定
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that she didn't want this practice to continue anymore in her community.
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要讓這個習俗不要再在她的社區繼續下去
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So when she got older she created this incredible thing:
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所以當她長大之後, 她做了這件驚人的事
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it's an anatomical sculpture of a woman's body; it's half a woman's body.
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這是一個解剖女性身體的雕塑, 是女性的半身,
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And she walked through the Rift Valley, and she had
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跟著她步行穿過大裂谷, 她帶著
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vagina and vagina replacement parts where she would teach
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陰道和陰道的替代品, 這樣的, 她便開始
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girls and parents and boys and girls what a healthy vagina looks like,
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教導女孩, 男孩和父母, 一個健康陰道的模樣,
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and what a mutilated vagina looks like. And in the course of her travel
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以及一個被割掉的陰道的模樣。
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she walked literally for eight years through the Rift Valley,
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在她這八年走過裂谷的過程中,
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through dust, through sleeping on the ground -- because the Masais are nomads,
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她經歷過沙塵, 經歷過睡在地上 --- 因為馬塞族人是遊牧民族,
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and she would literally have to find them, and they would move,
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她需要去尋找他們, 因為族人經常遷徙,
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and she would find them again. She saved 1,500 girls from being cut.
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於是她又要去再找他們了--- 她共拯救了一千五百個女孩免去被割之苦
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And in that time she created an alternative ritual which involved
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當那些沒有被割的女孩, 到了差不多的年紀
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girls coming of age without the cut.
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她也創立了另外一種儀式給她們
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When we met her three years ago,
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當我們在三年前見到她的時候
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we said, "What could V-Day do for you?"
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我們問: 『有什麼V日子可以為你做的?』
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And she said, "Well, if you got me a Jeep, I could get around a lot faster."
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她說: 『好啊, 如果你們可以給我一輛吉普車, 那我便可以走得快一點。』
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(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
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So we bought her a Jeep. And in the year that she had the Jeep,
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於是, 我們給她買了一輛吉普車。那她有了一輛車
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she saved 4,500 girls from being cut. So then we said to her,
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她拯救了四千五百個女孩免於被割。於是, 我們跟她說:
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"Agnes, well, what else could we do for you?" And she said,
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『阿格尼斯, 我們還有什麼可以給你做的呢?』, 她回答說:
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"Well, Eve, you know, if you gave me some money,
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『好啊, 依芙, 你知嗎? 如果你給我一些錢
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I could open a house and girls could run away and they could be saved."
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我可以開一個庇護之家, 那些女孩可以離家出走, 她們便可以被救了。』
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And I want to tell this little story about my own beginnings
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而我在分享我自己的故事之前, 跟你們分享了這些小故事
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because it's very interrelated to happiness and Agnes.
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是因為這些故事是跟快樂, 和跟阿格斯尼有關的
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When I was a little girl -- and I grew up
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當我還是一個小女孩, 我是在一個
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in a wealthy community; it was an upper-middle class white community,
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很富有的社區長大的。這是中上階層的白人社區---
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and it had all the trappings
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這個假象外表是
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and the looks of a perfectly nice, wonderful, great life.
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很完美的, 宜人的, 精彩的, 偉大的生活
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And everyone was supposed to be happy in that community
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好像每一個人在這裡都應該活得很快樂似的
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and, in fact, my life was hell. I lived with an alcoholic father
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但事實是, 我活在仿如地獄裡。我跟一個酗酒的爸爸住在一起
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who beat me and molested me, and it was all inside that.
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他打我也非禮我, 而所有這些都是沒有曝光的
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And always as a child I had this fantasy that somebody would come and rescue me.
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我小時常幻想有人會出現來拯救我
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And I actually made up a little character whose name was Mr. Alligator,
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我事實上也創造了一個名叫鱷魚先生的角色
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and I would call him up when things got really bad,
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當有壞事發生時, 我會呼叫他
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and I would say it was time to come and pick me up.
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我會告訴他是時候要來帶我走
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And I would go and pack a little bag and I would wait for Mr. Alligator to come.
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跟著, 我就會去執拾我的小行李, 等待鱷魚先生來救我
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Now, Mr. Alligator never did come,
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直到現在, 鱷魚先生都沒有出現過
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but the idea of Mr. Alligator coming actually saved my sanity
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但鱷魚先生這意念卻讓我神志清醒
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and made it OK for me to keep going because I believed,
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以及令我可以繼續活下去, 因為我相信
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in the distance, there would be someone coming to rescue me.
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在某處, 將會有人會來拯救我
18:17
Cut to 40-some-odd years later, we go to Kenya,
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回到四十多年後, 我們去到肯雅
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and we're walking, we arrive at the opening of this house --
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我們到了這庇護之家開放的日子---
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and Agnes hadn't let me come to the house for days
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只是阿格尼斯數日來都不讓我們走進屋內---
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because they were preparing this whole ritual.
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因為她們正準備整個的儀式
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And I want to tell you a great story. When Agnes first started
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接著, 我想告訴你這個偉大的故事, 當阿格尼斯第一次
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fighting to stop female genital mutilation in her community,
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在她的社區中爭取停止女性的割禮
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she had become an outcast, and she was exiled and she was slandered,
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她變成了一個被驅逐的人, 她被流亡, 被誹謗
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and the whole community turned against her.
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整個社區的人都針對她
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But, being a vagina warrior, she kept going,
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但作為一個『陰道勇士』, 她沒有放棄
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and she kept committing herself to transforming consciousness.
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她繼續獻身去改變別人的觀念
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And in the Masai community, goats and cows are the most valued possession.
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在馬塞社區, 羊和牛都他們視為最寶貴的財產
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They're like the Mercedes-Benz of the Rift Valley.
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就好像是大裂谷裡的賓士汽車一樣
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And she said, two days before the house opened, two different people
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據她說, 在庇護之家開放前兩天, 分別有兩個不同的人
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arrived to give her a goat each, and she said to me,
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每人都給她送來了一頭羊, 接著她對我說:
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"I knew then that female genital mutilation would end one day in Africa."
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『我知道非洲有一天將不會再有女性的割禮。』
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Anyway, we arrived, and when we arrived,
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不論怎的, 我們到了, 我們到了那裡
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there were hundreds of girls dressed in red, homemade dresses --
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那裡有數以百計的女孩, 穿著紅色的, 自家做的裙子---
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which is the color of the Masai and the color of V-Day --
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這是馬塞族的顏色, 也是V日子的顏色---
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and they greeted us, and they had made up these songs
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她們在歡迎我們, 她們一邊唱一些
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that they were singing about the end of suffering,
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終止苦難, 終止割禮的曲子,
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and the end of mutilation, and they walked us down the path.
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一邊跟我們一起走過那些小徑
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And it was a gorgeous day in the African sun,
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這是一個有著非洲太陽的燦爛晴天
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and the dust was flying and the girls were dancing,
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塵土在飛揚, 女孩在跳舞
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and there was this house, and it said, "V-Day Safe House for the Girls."
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以及這裡有一小屋, 上面寫著V日子女子安全之家
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And it hit me in that moment that it had taken 47 years,
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這刻讓我發現這四十七年後
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but that Mr. Alligator had finally shown up.
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鱷魚先生終於出現了
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And he'd show up obviously in a form that it took me a long time to understand,
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他出現的方法, 明顯是讓我用許多時間去明白
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which is that when we give
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當我們為這世界付出
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in the world what we want the most, we heal the broken part inside each of us.
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我們最想得到的東西, 其實我們也在治療自己內裡的那些破碎的部份
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And I feel, in the last eight years,
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我覺得在這過去八年的旅程裡
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that this journey, this miraculous vagina journey,
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這奇蹟般的陰道旅程之中
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has taught me this really simple thing, which is that happiness exists in action;
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教懂我這簡單的東西, 就是原來快樂存在於行動之中
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it exists in telling the truth and saying what your truth is;
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它存在於說出真相, 和說出你自己的真相
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and it exists in giving away what you want the most.
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它存在於付出你最想得到的東西
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And I feel that knowledge and that journey
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我覺得能够去經歷這些智慧
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has been an extraordinary privilege,
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以及這樣的旅程, 實在是不平凡的榮幸
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and I feel really blessed to have been here today to communicate that to you.
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我為今天能跟你們分享, 感到十分感恩
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Thank you very much.
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謝謝大家。
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(Applause)
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Eve Ensler - Playwright, activistEve Ensler created the ground-breaking "Vagina Monologues," whose success propelled her to found V-Day -- a movement to end violence against women and girls everywhere.
Why you should listen
Inspired by intimate conversations with friends, Eve Ensler wrote The Vagina Monologues. The play recounts tender, funny, gripping and horrifying stories she gathered from hundreds of women about their bodies, their sexual experiences, and yes, their vaginas. Since its first staging in 1996, it has been translated into more than 45 languages, performed in more than 120 countries and re-created as an HBO film.
The Vagina Monologues' success allowed Ensler to create V-Day, a global activist movement to end violence against women and girls, which has so far raised $85 million to prevent violence and protect abused women. In February 2011, Ensler received the Isabelle Stephenson Tony Award for her philanthropic work. Ensler has also drawn praise for The Good Body, a play that cuts to women's obsession with their appearance, and her film What I Want My Words to Do to You, which portrays a writing group she leads at a correctional facility for women. Today, she continues to find new projects and push the envelope. Her latest play, I Am an Emotional Creature: The Secret Life of Girls Around the World, hit the New York Times bestseller list and just wrapped a workshop production in Johannesburg -- nest stop is Paris and then Berkeley in June 2012.
Eve Ensler | Speaker | TED.com