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Rick Warren: A life of purpose
Rick Warren acerca de una vida con propósito.
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El pastor Rick Warren, autor de Una Vida con Propósito, reflexiona acerca del propósito de su propia vida tras el gran éxito de su libro. En esta charla, Warren explica su creencia de que la intención de Dios es que cada uno de nosotros use sus talentos e influencia para hacer el bien.
Rick Warren - Pastor, author
Pastor Rick Warren is the author of The Purpose-Driven Life, which has sold more than 30 million copies worldwide. His has become an immensely influential voice seeking to apply the values of his faith to issues such as global poverty, HIV/AIDS and injustice. Full bio
Pastor Rick Warren is the author of The Purpose-Driven Life, which has sold more than 30 million copies worldwide. His has become an immensely influential voice seeking to apply the values of his faith to issues such as global poverty, HIV/AIDS and injustice. Full bio
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Muchas veces me preguntan,
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I'm often asked,
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¿sabes qué es lo que más te sorprende acerca tu libro?
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"What surprised you about the book?"
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yo siempre respondo, que haya llegado a escribirlo.
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And I say, "That I got to write it."
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Jamás me lo hubiera imaginado,
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I would have never imagined that.
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Ni siquiera en mi sueño más descabellado --
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Not in my wildest dreams did I think --
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Ni siquiera me considero un autor.
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I don't even consider
myself to be an author.
myself to be an author.
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Y me preguntan con mucha frequencia,
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And I'm often asked,
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¿Por qué crees que tanta gente ha leido tu libro?
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"Why do you think so many
people have read this?
people have read this?
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This thing's selling still
about a million copies a month."
about a million copies a month."
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Todavía se venden cerca de un millón de copias al mes.
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And I think it's because
spiritual emptiness
spiritual emptiness
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Yo creo que es porque el vacío espiritual
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is a universal disease.
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es una enfermedad universal.
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I think inside at some point, we put
our heads down on the pillow and we go,
our heads down on the pillow and we go,
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Yo creo que en algún momento de nuestras vidas, ponemos nuestra cabeza en la almohada y nos preguntamos,
"La vida no puede ser solamente esto, tiene que haber mucho más".
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"There's got to be more
to life than this."
to life than this."
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Nos levantamos por la mañana, vamos al trabajo, regresamos a casa, miramos televisión
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Get up in the morning, go to work,
come home and watch TV,
come home and watch TV,
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nos acostamos, nos despertamos por la mañana, vamos al trabajo, regresamos a casa, miramos televisión, dormimos,
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go to bed, get up in the morning, go
to work, come home, watch TV, go to bed,
to work, come home, watch TV, go to bed,
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vamos a fiestas en los fines de semana.
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go to parties on weekends.
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Y mucha gente dice, "Estoy viviendo". "No, tú no estás viviendo, estás simplemente existiendo".
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A lot of people say, "I'm living." No,
you're not living -- that's just existing.
you're not living -- that's just existing.
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Simplemente existiendo.
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Just existing.
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Yo realmente creo que hay un deseo interior.
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I really think that
there's this inner desire.
there's this inner desire.
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Creo firmemente en lo que Cristo dijo. Tu existencia no es una casualidad.
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I do believe what Chris said;
I believe that you're not an accident.
I believe that you're not an accident.
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Puede que tus padres no te hayan planeado, pero creo que Dios sí.
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Your parents may not have planned you,
but I believe God did.
but I believe God did.
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No hay duda de que hay personas que llegan a ser padres por accidente.
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I think there are accidental parents;
there's no doubt about that.
there's no doubt about that.
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Pero no creo en niños que vienen a este mundo por casualidad.
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I don't think there are accidental kids.
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And I think you matter.
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Creo que tú eres muy importante.
Creo que tú le importas a Dios, creo que tú le importas a la historia,
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I think you matter to God;
I think you matter to history;
I think you matter to history;
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creo que tú le importas a este universo.
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I think you matter to this universe.
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And I think that the difference
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Y creo que la diferencia entre
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between what I call the survival level
of living, the success level of living,
of living, the success level of living,
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lo que yo llamo una vida de sobrevivencia, una vida de éxito
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and the significance level of living is:
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y una vida de sentido es,
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Do you figure out,
"What on Earth am I here for?"
"What on Earth am I here for?"
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el hecho de comprender, ¿cuál es la razón de mi existencia?
He conocido muchas personas muy inteligentes que dicen,
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I meet a lot of people who are very smart,
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and say, "But why can't I
figure out my problems?"
figure out my problems?"
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"¿Por qué aún soy tan incapaz de resolver mis problemas?"
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And I meet a lot of people
who are very successful,
who are very successful,
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Y también he conocido mucha gente exitosa que dice,
"¿Por qué no me siento más realizado?"
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who say, "Why don't I feel more fulfilled?
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¿Por qué me siento como un farsante?
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Why do I feel like a fake?
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Why do I feel like I've got to pretend
that I'm more than I really am?"
that I'm more than I really am?"
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¿Por qué siento que
siempre tengo que estar pretendiendo ser más de lo que realmente soy?"
Creo que esto se resume en el asunto de llevar una vida de sentido, de trascendencia, de propósito.
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I think that comes down to this issue
of meaning, of significance, of purpose.
of meaning, of significance, of purpose.
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I think it comes down to this issue of:
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Creo que todo se reduce a esta pregunta:
¿Por qué estoy aquí? ¿Para qué estoy aquí? ¿Para dónde voy?
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"Why am I here? What am I here for?
Where am I going?"
Where am I going?"
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Estas no son temas religiosos --
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These are not religious issues.
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son temas humanos.
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They're human issues.
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I wanted to tell Michael before he spoke
that I really appreciate what he does,
that I really appreciate what he does,
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Quería decirle a Michael antes de que él hablara
que sinceramente aprecio lo que él hace,
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because it makes my life work
a whole lot easier.
a whole lot easier.
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porque facilita mi vida en gran manera.
Como pastor, es muy normal ver muchos lunáticos
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As a pastor, I do see a lot of kooks.
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pero al mismo tiempo me he dado cuenta de que hay lunáticos en todas las áreas de la vida.
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And I have learned that there are
kooks in every area of life.
kooks in every area of life.
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La religión no tiene un
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Religion doesn't have a monopoly on that,
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monopolio en esta area, aunque sí hay un sinnúmero de lunáticos religiosos.
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but there are plenty of religious kooks.
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There are secular kooks;
there are smart kooks, dumb kooks.
there are smart kooks, dumb kooks.
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Existen los lunáticos seculares, los lunáticos inteligentes, los lunáticos ridículos
Un día una señora se me acercó,
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There are people -- a lady
came up to me the other day,
came up to me the other day,
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ella llevaba una hoja de papel en blanco-- Michael, te va a gustar esto--
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and she had a white piece of paper --
Michael, you'll like this one --
Michael, you'll like this one --
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y me pregunta, "¿Qué ves en esta hoja de papel?"
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and she said, "What do you see in it?"
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Yo la ojeé y le respondí, "Oh, no veo nada".
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And I looked at it and I said,
"Oh, I don't see anything."
"Oh, I don't see anything."
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Y ella me dice, "Bueno, yo veo a Jesús", y enseguida comenzó a llorar y se marchó.
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And she goes, "Well, I see Jesus,"
and started crying and left.
and started crying and left.
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Yo digo, OK, tu sabes. Está bien.
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I'm going, "OK," you know? "Fine."
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Hum.
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(Laughter)
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Me alegro por ti.
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Good for you.
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Cuando el libro se convirtió en un éxito editorial en todo el mundo durante los últimos tres años,
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When the book became the best-selling book
in the world for the last three years,
in the world for the last three years,
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Yo tuve mi pequeña crisis.
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I kind of had my little crisis.
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En ese entonces me preguntaba, ¿Cuál es el propósito de todo esto?
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And that was: What is the purpose of this?
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Because it brought in
enormous amounts of money.
enormous amounts of money.
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Ya que me comenzó a entrar una cantidad enorme de dinero.
Cuando escribes un éxito editorial mundial,
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When you write the best-selling
book in the world,
book in the world,
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recibes muchísimo dinero, además de que
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it's tons and tons of money.
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And it brought in a lot of attention,
neither of which I wanted.
neither of which I wanted.
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acaparas mucha atención y, al decir verdad, yo no quería ninguno de las dos cosas.
Cuando establecí la Iglesia en Saddleback, yo tenía 25 años de edad.
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When I started Saddleback Church,
I was 25 years old.
I was 25 years old.
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I started it with
one other family in 1980.
one other family in 1980.
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La comencé en 1980 juntamente con otra familia
en ese tiempo tomé la decision de nunca aparecer en televisión
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And I decided that I was never
going to go on TV,
going to go on TV,
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because I didn't want to be a celebrity.
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porque no tenía ningún deseo de convertirme en una celebridad
y tampoco quería tornarme en un, entre comillas, "evangelista o evangelista de televisión" --
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I didn't want to be a, quote,
"evangelist, televangelist" --
"evangelist, televangelist" --
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No es lo mío.
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that's not my thing.
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And all of the sudden, it brought a lot
of money and a lot of attention.
of money and a lot of attention.
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Y de repente, me llega muchísimo dinero y atención.
No creo que --
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I don't think --
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now, this is a worldview,
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Ahora, esta es mi visión del mundo, y te digo, todos tienen una visión del mundo.
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and I will tell you,
everybody's got a worldview.
everybody's got a worldview.
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Todo el mundo está apostando su vida por algo.
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Everybody's betting
their life on something.
their life on something.
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Tu estás apostando tu vida por algo --
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You're betting your life on something,
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Y más vale que sepas por qué estás apostando en lo que estás apostando.
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you just better know why
you're betting what you're betting on.
you're betting what you're betting on.
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Así, pues, todo el mundo apuesta su vida por algo.
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So, everybody's betting
their life on something.
their life on something.
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And when I, you know, made a bet,
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En mi caso, cuando hice mi apuesta, yo creía
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I happened to believe
that Jesus was who he said he was.
that Jesus was who he said he was.
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que Jesús era aquél quien él decía ser.
Y todos apuestan -- y creo en una sociedad pluralista --
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And I believe in a pluralistic society,
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todos están apostando por algo.
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everybody's betting on something.
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Cuando comencé la iglesia,
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And when I started the church,
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you know, I had no plans
to do what it's doing now.
to do what it's doing now.
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no había previsto que fuera a convertirse en lo que es actualmente.
y cuando escribí este libro años más tarde,
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And then when I wrote this book,
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de repente simplemente
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and all of a sudden, it just took off,
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levantó vuelo,
y empecé a preguntarme, ¿Cuál es el propósito de todo esto?
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and I started saying, now,
what's the purpose of this?
what's the purpose of this?
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Porque al mismo tiempo comencé a decir,
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Because as I started to say,
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No creo que tu recibas tanto dinero y tanta fama
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I don't think you're given money or fame
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para alimentar tu propio ego, jamás.
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for your own ego, ever.
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Estoy convencido de que no es así.
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I just don't believe that.
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y cuando tú escribes un libro que comienza con la frase:
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And when you write a book
that the first sentence of the book is,
that the first sentence of the book is,
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"no se trata ti",
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"It's not about you,"
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y cuando, de repente,
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then, when all of a sudden it becomes
the best-selling book in history,
the best-selling book in history,
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se convierte en el libro de mayor venta en la historia,
supongo que, de hecho, no se trata de ti.
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you've got to figure, well,
I guess it's not about me.
I guess it's not about me.
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That's kind of a no-brainer.
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es obvio, no hay que darle tantas vueltas al asunto.
entonces, ¿cuál es la razón de todo esto?
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So, what is it for?
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And I began to think about what I call
the "stewardship of affluence"
the "stewardship of affluence"
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Fue en ese momento que comencé a pensar acerca de la mayordomía de la opulencia
y la mayordomía de la influencia.
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and the "stewardship of influence."
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Yo creo que el liderazgo es esencialmente una mayordomía.
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So I believe, essentially,
leadership is stewardship.
leadership is stewardship.
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That if you are a leader in any area --
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Que si tú eres un líder en cualquier area --
ya sea en los negocios, en la política, en los deportes, en el arte,
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in business, in politics,
in sports, in art,
in sports, in art,
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en el campo académico, en cualquier area --
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in academics, in any area --
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tú no eres el dueño de ella,
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you don't own it.
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tú eres, más bien, un mayordomo de ella.
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You are a steward of it.
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For instance, that's why I believe
in protecting the environment.
in protecting the environment.
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Por ejemplo, yo creo en la protección del medio ambiente.
La tierra no me pertenece. Tampoco era mía cuando nací.
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This is not my planet.
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It wasn't mine before I was born,
it's not going to be mine after I die,
it's not going to be mine after I die,
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y no va a ser mía después de que muera.
Voy a estar aquí solamente por 80 años.
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I'm just here for 80 years
and then that's it.
and then that's it.
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Hace algunos días participé en un programa de entrevistas,
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I was debating
the other day on a talk show,
the other day on a talk show,
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en el cual uno de los asistentes a manera de desafío me preguntó,
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and the guy was challenging
me and he'd go,
me and he'd go,
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"¿Qué hace un pastor protegiendo el medio ambiente?"
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"What's a pastor doing
on protecting the environment?"
on protecting the environment?"
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And I asked this guy, I said,
"Well, do you believe
"Well, do you believe
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Entonces le pregunté, "bien, tú crees que
los seres humanos deberían asumir la responsabilidad
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that human beings are responsible
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de hacer del mundo un lugar mejor para las próximas generaciones?
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to make the world a little bit better
place for the next generation?
place for the next generation?
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¿tú crees que tenemos la mayordomía
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Do you think we have a stewardship here,
to take the environment seriously?"
to take the environment seriously?"
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de tomar en serio al medio ambiente?"
a lo que él respondió, "No".
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And he said, "No."
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"Oh, ¿no crees?", le pregunté, "entonces déjame aclararte la pregunta".
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I said, "Oh, you don't?"
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I said, "Let me make this clear again:
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Tú crees que como seres humanos -- y no me estoy refieriendo a la religión --
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Do you believe that as human beings --
I'm not talking about religion --
I'm not talking about religion --
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tú crees que como seres humanos, es nuestra responsabilidad
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do you believe that as human beings,
it is our responsibility
it is our responsibility
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de cuidar este planeta y hacer de él un mejor lugar para las generaciones futuras?"
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to take care of this planet,
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and make it just a little bit better
for the next generation?"
for the next generation?"
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Y él respondió, "No".
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And he said, "No. Not any more
than any other species."
than any other species."
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no tenemos más responsabilidad que cualquier otra especie".
Al mencionar la palabra "especies", él estaba revelando su visión del mundo.
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When he said the word "species,"
he was revealing his worldview.
he was revealing his worldview.
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y continuó, "no tengo más responsabilidad de cuidar del medio ambiente
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And he was saying,
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06:55
"I'm no more responsible to take care
of this environment than a duck is."
of this environment than a duck is."
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que un pato".
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Well now, I know a lot
of times we act like ducks,
of times we act like ducks,
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Claro, yo sé que muchas veces sí actuamos como patos,
pero no eres un pato.
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but you're not a duck.
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tú no eres un pato.
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You're not a duck.
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y tú sí eres responsable -- esa es mi visión del mundo.
07:07
And you are responsible --
that's my worldview.
that's my worldview.
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Tú tienes que entender cuál es tu mundo, tu visión del mundo.
07:11
And so, you need to understand
what your worldview is.
what your worldview is.
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El problema es que la mayoría de las personas nunca reflexiona acerca de este asunto cabalmente.
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The problem is most people
never really think it through.
never really think it through.
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La mayoría de las personas nunca
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They never really ...
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codify it or qualify it or quantify it,
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lo codifican o cualifican o cuantifican,
de tal manera que puedan decir, "Yo creo firmemente en esto o aquello.
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and say, "This is what I believe in.
This is why I believe what I believe."
This is why I believe what I believe."
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Y creo en esto por ésta o aquella razón".
Yo personalmente no tengo la fe suficiente para ser un ateista.
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I don't personally have
enough faith to be an atheist.
enough faith to be an atheist.
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Pero puede que tú si la tengas.
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But you may, you may.
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07:38
Your worldview, though, does determine
everything else in your life,
everything else in your life,
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Tu visión del mundo va a determinar todo en tu vida,
porque determina tus decisiones,
07:42
because it determines your decisions;
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determina tus relaciones,
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it determines your relationships;
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determina tu nivel de confianza.
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it determines your level of confidence.
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Realmente determina todo en tu vida.
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It determines, really,
everything in your life.
everything in your life.
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Lo que creemos, obviamente --
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What we believe, obviously --
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07:55
and you know this --
determines our behavior,
determines our behavior,
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y ustedes lo saben muy bien -- determina nuestro comportamiento,
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and our behavior determines
what we become in life.
what we become in life.
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y nuestro comportamiento determina lo que seremos en la vida.
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So all of this money started pouring in,
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Así que el dinero me comenzó a llegar a raudales,
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and all of this fame started pouring in.
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al igual que mucha fama,
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And I'm going, what do I do with this?
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entonces me comencé a preguntar, ¿qué voy a hacer con todo esto?
Mi esposa y yo tomamos cinco decisiones en cuanto a qué a hacer con el dinero.
08:13
My wife and I first made five decisions
on what to do with the money.
on what to do with the money.
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Dijimos, "primero",
08:18
We said, "First, we're not
going to use it on ourselves."
going to use it on ourselves."
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no lo vamos a usar para nuestro propio beneficio".
No nos compramos una casa más grande.
08:22
I didn't go out and buy a bigger house.
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o una casa de huéspedes.
08:25
I don't own a guesthouse.
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08:26
I still drive the same four year-old
Ford that I've driven.
Ford that I've driven.
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Todavía manejo el mismo Ford viejo de hace cuatro años.
08:30
We just said, we're not
going to use it on us.
going to use it on us.
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Sencillamente dijimos, no vamos a usar este dinero para nosotros.
La segunda decision que tomamos fue,
08:33
The second thing was,
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Parar de devengar el salario de la iglesia que pastoreo.
08:36
I stopped taking a salary
from the church that I pastor.
from the church that I pastor.
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En tercer lugar, calculamos el total de todo el dinero que la iglesia me había pagado a lo largo de los últimos 25 años,
08:40
Third thing is, I added up
all that the church had paid me
all that the church had paid me
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08:43
over the last 25 years,
and I gave it back.
and I gave it back.
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y lo devolvimos en su totalidad.
Lo hice porque no quería que nadie fuera a pensar que
08:46
And I gave it back because
I didn't want anybody thinking
I didn't want anybody thinking
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lo que hago lo hago por causa del dinero -- no es así.
08:49
that I do what I do for money -- I don't.
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08:51
In fact, personally, I've never met
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De hecho, personalmente nunca he conocido a ningún
sacerdote o pastor o ministro que trabaje por causa del dinero.
08:55
a priest or a pastor or a minister
who does it for money.
who does it for money.
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Yo sé que es un estereotipo, pero nunca he conocido ni siquiera a uno.
08:58
I know that's the stereotype;
I've never met one of them.
I've never met one of them.
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09:01
Believe me, there's a whole lot
easier ways to make money.
easier ways to make money.
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Créanme, hay muchas otras maneras mucho más fáciles de ganar dinero.
09:05
Pastors are like on 24 hours-a-day call,
they're like doctors.
they're like doctors.
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Los pastores son como los doctores, deben estar a disposición las 24 horas del día.
Hoy salí de mi casa tarde. Estaba planeando venir aquí ayer,
09:09
I left late today -- I'd hoped
to be here yesterday --
to be here yesterday --
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pero no pude porque mi suegro está pasando probablemente por sus últimas 48 horas de vida
09:13
because my father-in-law
is in his last, probably, 48 hours
is in his last, probably, 48 hours
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antes de que muera de cancer.
09:16
before he dies of cancer.
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El es una persona que ha vivido una larga vida --
09:18
And I'm watching a guy
who's lived his life --
who's lived his life --
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09:21
he's now in his mid-80s --
and he's dying with peace.
and he's dying with peace.
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Ya está en sus 80 --
y ahora está muriendo en paz. La prueba de tu visión del mundo
09:24
You know, the test of your worldview
is not how you act in the good times.
is not how you act in the good times.
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no es cómo actúas en los buenos tiempos.
La prueba de tu visiòn del mundo es cómo actúas en tu funeral.
09:30
The test of your worldview
is how you act at the funeral.
is how you act at the funeral.
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Después de haber presidido cientos o inclusive miles de funerarios,
09:35
And having been through literally
hundreds if not thousands of funerals,
hundreds if not thousands of funerals,
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me he dado cuenta de que sí hace una gran diferencia.
09:39
it makes a difference.
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tus creencias marcan la diferencia.
09:41
It makes a difference what you believe.
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Así que, nosotros devolvimos todo,
09:44
So, we gave it all back,
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y después establecimos tres fundaciones
09:48
and then we set up three foundations,
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para ayudar a resolver los mayores problemas mundiales:
09:51
working on some of the major
problems of the world:
problems of the world:
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el analfabetismo, la pobreza, las epidemias -- particularmente HIV/AIDS --
09:53
illiteracy, poverty, pandemic diseases --
particularly HIV/AIDS --
particularly HIV/AIDS --
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De manera que creamos estas tres fundaciones,
09:59
and set up these three foundations,
and put the money into that.
and put the money into that.
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e invertimos el dinero en ellas.
Finalmente nos convertimos en "diezmeros inversos".
10:03
The last thing we did is we became
what I call "reverse tithers."
what I call "reverse tithers."
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Cuando mi esposa y yo nos casamos,
10:07
And that is, when my wife
and I got married 30 years ago,
and I got married 30 years ago,
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hace 30 años,
comenzamos a diezmar.
10:15
we started tithing.
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10:17
Now, that's a principle in the Bible
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El diezmo es un principio bíblico
el cual dice que debemos separar un 10 por ciento para obras de caridad,
10:20
that says give 10 percent
of what you get back to charity,
of what you get back to charity,
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y donarlo para ayudar a otras personas.
10:23
give it away to help other people.
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10:25
So, we started doing that, and each year
we would raise our tithe one percent.
we would raise our tithe one percent.
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Así que cuando comenzamos a diezmar, también decidimos aumentar el diezmo en 1 por ciento cada año.
10:29
So, our first year of marriage
we went to 11 percent,
we went to 11 percent,
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así es como en el primer año de nuestro matrimonio logramos dar 11 por ciento,
en el segundo año, diezmamos 12 por ciento,
10:32
second year we went to 12 percent,
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y en el tercer año 13 por ciento,
10:34
and the third year we went to 13 percent,
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10:36
and on and on and on.
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y así sucesivamente. Ahora, ¿por qué decidí hacer ésto?
10:39
Why did I do that?
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Porque cada vez que doy,
10:40
Because every time I give,
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más me libero del control que el materialismo ejerce en mi vida.
10:42
it breaks the grip
of materialism in my life.
of materialism in my life.
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El materialismo consiste solamente en adquirir cosas -- adquirir todo lo que más puedas.
10:46
Materialism is all about getting --
get, get, get, get all you can,
get, get, get, get all you can,
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Consiste en amontonar riquezas y sentarse en ellas sin que nos importe nada más.
10:50
can all you get, sit on the can
and spoil the rest.
and spoil the rest.
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Consiste en poseer cada vez más.
10:54
It's all about more, having more.
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Creemos que tener una buena vida es tener una buena apariencia.
10:58
And we think that the good life
is actually looking good --
is actually looking good --
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creemos que lo más importante es lucir bien,
11:02
that's most important of all --
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11:04
looking good, feeling good
and having the goods.
and having the goods.
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sentirnos bien y poseer cuantiosos bienes.
Pero esa no es la buena vida.
11:08
But that's not the good life.
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Yo continuamente conozco a personas que tienen estas cosas,
11:10
I meet people all the time who have
those, and they're not necessarily happy.
those, and they're not necessarily happy.
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y no son necesariamente felices.
Si el dinero realmente pudiera concederte la felicidad,
11:14
If money actually made you happy,
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11:17
then the wealthiest people
in the world would be the happiest.
in the world would be the happiest.
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entonces los más ricos en el mundo serían los más felices.
Y yo sé, personalmente, que ése no es el caso.
11:19
And that I know, personally,
I know, is not true.
I know, is not true.
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11:22
It's just not true.
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Sencillamente no es verdad.
11:25
So, the good life is not about looking
good, feeling good or having the goods,
good, feeling good or having the goods,
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La buena vida no radica en tener buena apariencia, sentirse bien o en poseer muchos bienes,
11:28
it's about being good and doing good.
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Se trata de ser bueno y hacer el bien.
Se trata de sacrificar tu vida.
11:32
Giving your life away.
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El sentido en la vida no tiene que ver con el estatus,
11:34
Significance in life
doesn't come from status,
doesn't come from status,
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porque siempre vas a encontrar a alguien que tiene más bienes que tú.
11:38
because you can always find
somebody who's got more than you.
somebody who's got more than you.
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Tampoco se origina en el sexo.
11:41
It doesn't come from sex.
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11:42
It doesn't come from salary.
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No proviene del salario.
Proviene de servir.
11:45
It comes from serving.
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Dando nuestras vidas es como encontramos sentido,
11:47
It is in giving our lives away
that we find meaning,
that we find meaning,
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encontramos significación.
11:50
we find significance.
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11:52
That's the way we were wired,
I believe, by God.
I believe, by God.
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Estamos hechos así, yo creo, por Dios.
11:57
And so we began to give away,
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Así, pues, empezamos a donar,
12:00
and now after 30 years,
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y ahora después de 30 años,
12:02
my wife and I are reverse tithers --
we give away 90 percent and live on 10.
we give away 90 percent and live on 10.
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mi esposa y yo somos diezmeros inversos -- es decir, donamos 90 % y vivimos con 10%
Y esto, de hecho, fue lo más fácil.
12:07
That, actually, was the easy part.
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12:08
The hard part is, what do I do
with all this attention?
with all this attention?
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Lo difícil es, ¿qué hacer con toda la atención que recibí después.
Porque me comenzaron a llegar todo tipo de invitaciones.
12:12
Because I started getting
all kinds of invitations.
all kinds of invitations.
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De hecho, acabé de regresar de una gira de charlas de casi un més
12:15
I just came off a nearly
month-long speaking tour
month-long speaking tour
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en tres continentes diferentes,
12:19
on three different continents,
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sobre la cual no voy a comentar ahora,
12:21
and I won't go into that,
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pero les puedo decir que fue algo extraordinario.
12:23
but it was an amazing thing.
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Así que yo me preguntaba, ¿Qué hago con todo esto,
12:26
And I'm going, what do I do
with this notoriety
with this notoriety
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con la notoriedad que el libro me ha traido?
12:30
that the book has brought?
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12:32
And, being a pastor,
I started reading the Bible.
I started reading the Bible.
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Y ya que soy un pastor, lógicamente empecé a leer la Biblia.
Hay un capítulo en la Biblia llamado Salmo 72,
12:36
There's a chapter in the Bible
called Psalm 72,
called Psalm 72,
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el cual es una oración hecha por Salomón para ganar más influencia.
12:39
and it's Solomon's prayer
for more influence.
for more influence.
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Cuando lees esta oración,
12:43
When you read this prayer,
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12:45
it sounds incredibly
selfish, self-centered.
selfish, self-centered.
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pareciera que fuera increiblemente egocentrica,
Pareciera que él dijera,
"Dios, quiero que me conviertas en alguien famoso".
12:49
He says, "God, I want you
to make me famous."
to make me famous."
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Y esa es precisamente la oración que él hace.
12:51
That's what he prays.
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El dice, "quiero que me hagas famoso.
12:53
He said, "I want you to make me famous.
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12:54
I want you to spread the fame
of my name through every land,
of my name through every land,
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Quiero que la fama de mi nombre sea divulgada a través de toda la tierra,
Quiero que me concedas poder,
12:57
I want you to give me power.
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Quiero que me hagas famoso.
13:01
I want you to make me famous,
I want you to give me influence."
I want you to give me influence."
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Quiero que me confieras influencia".
13:04
And it just sounds like the most
egotistical request you could make,
egotistical request you could make,
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Pareciera que ésta fuera la petición más egoísta que alguien pudiera hacer
al momento de orar.
13:08
if you were going to pray.
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Esto es, hasta cuando lees todo el salmo, el capítulo entero.
13:10
Until you read the whole psalm,
the whole chapter.
the whole chapter.
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Después él dice, "Para que el rey" --
13:13
And then he says,
"So that the king ..." --
"So that the king ..." --
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él era el rey de Israel durante el apogeo de esta nación --
13:15
he was the king of Israel
at that time, at its apex in power --
at that time, at its apex in power --
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"para que el rey pueda atender a las viudas y huérfanos,
13:20
"... so that the king may care
for the widow and orphan,
for the widow and orphan,
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dar consuelo a los desanimados, defender a los oprimidos, cuidar a los enfermos,
13:24
support the oppressed, defend
the defenseless, care for the sick,
the defenseless, care for the sick,
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ayudar a los pobres, abogar por los extranjeros
13:28
assist the poor,
speak up for the foreigner,
speak up for the foreigner,
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13:32
those in prison."
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y aquellos que están en prisión".
13:34
Basically, he's talking about
all the marginalized in society.
all the marginalized in society.
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Básicamente, él se refiere a todos los marginados en la sociedad.
Y en cuanto leía este pasaje,
13:37
And as I read that,
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pensaba, bien,
13:39
I looked at it, and I thought, you know,
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13:42
what this is saying is that the purpose
of influence is to speak up
of influence is to speak up
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el propósito de tener influencia es para defender
a aquellos que no la tienen.
13:46
for those who have no influence.
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El propósito de tener influencia no es para edificar tu ego,
13:50
The purpose of influence
is not to build your ego.
is not to build your ego.
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o aumentar tu patrimonio neto.
13:55
Or your net worth.
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Y, por cierto, tu patrimonio neto no es igual
13:57
And, by the way, your net worth is not
the same thing as your self-worth.
the same thing as your self-worth.
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a tu autoestima.
14:00
Your value is not based on your valuables.
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Tu valor no se basa en el valor de tus bienes,
14:06
It's based on a whole
different set of things.
different set of things.
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Se basa en algo totalmente distinto.
14:08
And so the purpose
of influence is to speak up
of influence is to speak up
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Entonces el objetivo de la influencia es defender
a aquellos que no la tienen.
14:11
for those who have no influence.
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Y tuve que que admitir que
14:13
And I had to admit:
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no me acuerdo cuándo fue la última vez que pensé en viudas y huérfanos.
14:15
I can't think of the last time
I thought of widows and orphans.
I thought of widows and orphans.
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Ellos no están en mi radar.
14:18
They're not on my radar.
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La iglesia que yo pastoreo está en una de las áreas más acaudaladas de America--
14:21
I pastor a church in one of the most
affluent areas of America --
affluent areas of America --
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una área llena de condominios privados.
14:24
a bunch of gated communities.
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A mi iglesia asisten científicos y gerentes de empresas (CEOs)
14:26
I have a church full
of CEOs and scientists.
of CEOs and scientists.
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Y fácilmente podría pasar 5 años sin nunca ver un indigente
14:30
And I could go five years and never,
ever see a homeless person.
ever see a homeless person.
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14:35
They're just not in my pathway.
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Porque ellos no están en mi camino.
Aunque están a 21 kms de distancia en Santa Ana.
14:37
Now, they're 13 miles
up the road in Santa Ana.
up the road in Santa Ana.
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14:41
So I had to say, ok,
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Así que dije, "bien,
14:44
I would use whatever affluence
and whatever influence I've got
and whatever influence I've got
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voy a usar toda la afluencia e influencia que tengo para
ayudar a aquellos que no tienen ninguna de las dos".
14:47
to help those who don't have
either of those.
either of those.
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En la Biblia hay una historia acerca de Moisés.
14:52
You know, there's a story
in the Bible about Moses,
in the Bible about Moses,
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si ustedes creen que es verídica o no --
14:55
whether you believe it's true or not,
it really doesn't matter to me.
it really doesn't matter to me.
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la verdad no importa mucho aquí.
14:58
But Moses, if you saw the movie,
"The Ten Commandments,"
"The Ten Commandments,"
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Si vieron la película "Los Dies Mandamientos", se acordarán que
15:01
Moses goes out, and there's this
burning bush, and God talks to him,
burning bush, and God talks to him,
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Moisés un día ve un arbusto ardiente por el cual Dios le habla.
15:04
and God says,
"Moses, what's in your hand?"
"Moses, what's in your hand?"
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Dios le pregunta, "¿Moisés,
Qué tienes en tu mano?"
Esa es una de las preguntas más importantes que te podrán hacer.
15:10
I think that's one of the most important
questions you'll ever be asked:
questions you'll ever be asked:
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¿Qué hay en tu mano?
15:14
What's in your hand?
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Moisés responde, "un cayado.
15:16
Moses says, "It's a staff.
It's a shepherd's staff."
It's a shepherd's staff."
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Es un cayado para pastorear ovejas".
15:21
And God says, "Throw it down."
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Y Dios le dice, "Arrójalo al suelo".
15:22
And if you saw the movie, you know,
he throws it down and it becomes a snake.
he throws it down and it becomes a snake.
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Si vieron el filme, sabrán que cuando el lo lanza al suelo el cayado se convierte en una serpiente.
Dios después le dice, "recógela".
15:29
And then God says, "Pick it up."
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Y cuando Moisés la recoge,
15:32
And he picks it back up again,
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15:34
and it becomes a staff again.
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la serpiente se convierte en un cayado nuevamente.
Mientras yo leía este pasaje me preguntaba, ¿Qué significa todo esto?
15:37
Now, I'm reading this thing,
and I'm going, what is that all about?
and I'm going, what is that all about?
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¿Cuál es el significado de esta historia? Aquí hay dos puntos muy importantes.
15:41
OK. What's that all about? Well,
I do know a couple of things.
I do know a couple of things.
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Primeramente, Dios nunca hace un milagro para lucirse.
15:44
Number one, God never does
a miracle to show off.
a miracle to show off.
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El no lo hace simplemente para que digamos, "¡Vaya, qué impresionante!"
15:48
It's not just, "Wow, isn't that cool?"
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Y, a propósito, mi Dios no tiene necesidad de aparecerse en un pan de queso.
15:50
And, by the way, my God doesn't
have to show up on cheese bread.
have to show up on cheese bread.
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Porque si El ha de aparecerse,
15:53
You know, if God's going to show up,
he's not going to show up on cheese bread.
he's not going to show up on cheese bread.
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No lo va a hacer en un pan de queso.
(Risas)
15:57
(Laughter)
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¿No lo creen? Por eso es que me encanta lo que Michael hace,
15:59
Ok? I just, this is why I love
what Michael does,
what Michael does,
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16:01
because it's like, if he's debunking it,
then I don't have to.
then I don't have to.
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porque si él va a desmitificar algo, entonces yo no tengo que hacerlo.
16:06
But God -- my God --
doesn't show up on sprinkler images.
doesn't show up on sprinkler images.
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Pero Dios -- mi Dios -- no tiene necesidad de mostrarse en imágenes de aspersores de agua.
16:10
He's got a few more powerful ways
than that to do whatever he wants to do.
than that to do whatever he wants to do.
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El tiene otras maneras mucho más poderosas
para llevar a cabo lo que Él quiere realizar.
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But he doesn't do miracles
just to show off.
just to show off.
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Sin embargo, Él no hace milagros simplemente para presumir.
En segundo lugar, si Dios alguna vez te pregunta algo,
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Second thing is,
if God ever asks you a question,
if God ever asks you a question,
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El ya sabe la respuesta.
16:20
he already knows the answer.
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Obviously, if he's God,
then that would mean
then that would mean
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Evidentemente, si El es Dios, eso significa que
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that when he asks the question,
it's for your benefit, not his.
it's for your benefit, not his.
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cuando El te hace una pregunta, lo hace por tu bien y no por el de Él.
Entonces, Dios le pregunta a Moisés, "¿Qué tienes en tu mano?"
16:28
So he's going, "What's in your hand?"
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¿Y qué tenía Moisés en la mano?
16:30
Now, what was in Moses' hand?
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Well, it was a shepherd's staff.
Now, follow me on this.
Now, follow me on this.
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Tenía un cayado para pastorear ovejas. Ahora, quiero que me presten bien atención.
Este cayado representaba tres cosas acerca de la vida de Moisés.
16:36
This staff represented
three things about Moses' life.
three things about Moses' life.
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Primero, representaba su propia identidad.
16:39
First, it represented his identity;
he was a shepherd.
he was a shepherd.
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El era un pastor. Era el símbolo de su ocupación.
16:43
It's the symbol of his own occupation:
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El era un pastor. Es un símbolo de su indentidad, de su profesión, de su trabajo.
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I am a shepherd.
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It's a symbol of his identity,
his career, his job.
his career, his job.
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Segundo, el cayado es un símbolo no solamente de su identidad,
16:51
Second, it's a symbol
of not only his identity,
of not only his identity,
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sino también de sus ingresos, ya que todos sus bienes estaban ligados a sus ovejas.
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it's a symbol of his income, because all
of his assets are tied up in sheep.
of his assets are tied up in sheep.
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En ese tiempo nadie tenía cuentas bancarias,
16:58
In those days, nobody had bank accounts,
or American Express cards, or hedge funds.
or American Express cards, or hedge funds.
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o tarjetas de crédito American Express o fondos de cobertura.
Sus bienes estaban conectados a sus rebaños.
17:03
Your assets are tied up in your flocks.
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El cayado era un símbolo de su identidad como también de sus ingresos.
17:06
So it's a symbol of his identity,
and it's a symbol of his income.
and it's a symbol of his income.
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Tercero, el cayado es un símbolo de su influencia.
17:09
And the third thing:
it's a symbol of his influence.
it's a symbol of his influence.
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¿Para qué es el cayado?
17:13
What do you do with a shepherd's staff?
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Bueno, en primera instancia, tú lo utilizas para mobilizar a las ovejas de un lugar a otro,
17:16
Well, you know, you move sheep
from point A to point B with it,
from point A to point B with it,
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ya sea con un gancho o con una percha.
17:20
by hook or by crook.
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O las jalas o las empujas, o lo uno o lo otro.
17:22
You pull them or you poke them.
One or the other.
One or the other.
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Lo que Dios está diciendo aquí es,
17:26
So, he's saying,
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"Vas a despojarte de tu propia identidad".
17:28
"You're going to lay down your identity.
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¿Qué tienes en tu mano? ¿Tu identidad, tu salario, tu influencia?
17:30
What's in your hand?
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17:31
You've got identity, you've got income,
you've got influence.
you've got influence.
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¿Qué hay en tu mano?"
17:34
What's in your hand?"
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Y Dios dice, "Si te despojas de él, voy a ser que cobre vida.
17:36
And he's saying, "If you lay it down,
I'll make it come alive.
I'll make it come alive.
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Y haré cosas inimaginables".
17:39
I'll do some things
you could never imagine possible."
you could never imagine possible."
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Y si miraron la película "Los Diez Mandamientos",
17:42
And if you've watched that movie,
"Ten Commandments,"
"Ten Commandments,"
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todos esos grandes milagros que ocurrieron en Egipto
17:44
all of those big miracles that happen
in Egypt are done through this staff.
in Egypt are done through this staff.
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fueron hechos a través de este cayado.
El año pasado, fui invitado a dar una charla en el juego de las estrellas de la NBA.
17:51
Last year, I was invited to speak
at the NBA All-Stars game.
at the NBA All-Stars game.
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17:56
And so, I'm talking to the players,
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Cuando les estaba hablando a los jugadores,
18:00
because most of the NBA teams,
NFL teams and all the other teams
NFL teams and all the other teams
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ya que la mayoría de los equipos de la NBA, NFL, entre otros
han practicado los "40 Días de Propósito" basados en el libro.
18:04
have done this 40 Days of Purpose,
based on the book.
based on the book.
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Entonces, les preguntaba, "Qué tienen en su mano?
18:07
And I asked them, I said,
"What's in your hand?
"What's in your hand?
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¿Qué tienen en su mano?" Y les decía, "es un balón de baloncesto,
18:12
So, what's in your hand?"
I said, "It's a basketball.
I said, "It's a basketball.
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el baloncesto representa su identidad, lo que ustedes son.
18:16
And that basketball represents
your identity, who you are:
your identity, who you are:
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Como jugadores de la NBA, el balón también representa el salario que se ganan.
18:20
you're an NBA player.
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18:21
It represents your income:
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Y ustedes ganan mucho dinero por medio de ese pequeño balón.
18:23
you're making a lot of money
off that little ball.
off that little ball.
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El balón también representa la influencia que poseen.
18:26
And it represents your influence.
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18:28
And even though you're only going
to be in the NBA for a few years,
to be in the NBA for a few years,
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y aunque solamente estarán en la NBA por algunos años,
18:31
you're going to be an NBA player
for the rest of your life.
for the rest of your life.
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de todas maneras serán jugadores de la NBA todas sus vidas.
Y ese hecho les confiere una influencia enorme.
18:34
And that gives you enormous influence.
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¿Qué piensan hacer con todo lo que han recibido?"
18:37
So, what are you going to do
with what you've been given?"
with what you've been given?"
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Y esa es la razón principal por la cual yo vine aquí hoy.
18:41
And I guess that's the main reason
I came up here today,
I came up here today,
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Les quiero preguntar a todos ustedes, gente brillante de TED,
18:46
to all of you very bright people at TED --
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"¿Qué tienen en sus manos?"
18:49
it is to say, "What's in your hand?"
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¿Qué tienen en sus manos que les fue dado?
18:53
What do you have that you've been given?
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18:57
Talent, background, education,
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Talento, trasfondo, educación,
19:01
freedom, networks, opportunities,
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libertad, conecciones, oportunidades,
riqueza, ideas, creatividad.
19:05
wealth, ideas, creativity.
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19:08
What are you doing
with what you've been given?
with what you've been given?
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¿Qué estás haciendo
con aquello que has recibido?
19:12
That, to me, is the primary
question about life.
question about life.
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Para mí, esa es la pregunta más fundamental de la vida.
19:16
That, to me, is what being
purpose-driven is all about.
purpose-driven is all about.
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y eso es lo que significa ser personas de propósito en la vida.
19:20
In the book, I talk about
how you're wired to do certain things,
how you're wired to do certain things,
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En el libro, hablo acerca de como nosotros estamos hechos para ciertas cosas
19:24
you're "SHAPED" with -- a little acrostic:
Spiritual gifts, Heart,
Spiritual gifts, Heart,
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Esta pequeña cruz requiere dones espirituales, corazón,
19:27
Ability, Personality and Experiences.
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habilidad, personalidad y experiencias.
Estas cosas te moldean.
19:30
These things shape you.
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Y si anhelas saber que deberías estar haciendo en tu vida,
19:32
And if you want to know what you ought
to be doing with your life,
to be doing with your life,
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Debes mirarte a tí mismo, a tu forma. ¿Para qué fui diseñado yo?
19:35
you need to look at your shape --
"What am I wired to do?"
"What am I wired to do?"
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¿Por qué Dios me diseñaría para algo
19:38
Why would God wire you to do something
and then not have you do it?
and then not have you do it?
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sin permitir que lo realice en mi vida?
Si fuiste hecho para ser un antropólogo, serás un antropólogo.
19:41
If you're wired to be an anthropologist,
you'll be an anthropologist.
you'll be an anthropologist.
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si fuiste hecho para ser un explorador bajo la superficie del mar,
19:44
If you're wired to be
an undersea explorer,
an undersea explorer,
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entonces serás tal explorador.
19:46
you'll be an undersea explorer.
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Si fuiste diseñado para hacer negocios, haces negocios.
19:48
If you're wired to make deals,
you make deals.
you make deals.
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Si tu llamado es la pintura, entonces pinta.
19:50
If you're wired to paint, you paint.
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¿Sabías que Dios sonríe cuando tú eres tú mismo?
19:53
Did you know that God smiles
when you be you?
when you be you?
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Cuando mis hijos eran muy pequeños --
19:57
When my little kids --
when my kids were little --
when my kids were little --
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19:59
they're all grown now, I have grandkids --
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ya todos crecieron, y ahora hasta tengo nietos --
Solía sentarme al lado de sus camas,
20:01
I used to go in and sit
on the side of their bed,
on the side of their bed,
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para contemplarlos mientras dormían.
20:04
and I used to watch my kids sleep.
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Y miraba como sus cuerpitos subían y bajaban,
20:07
And I just watched their little bodies
rise and lower, rise and lower.
rise and lower, rise and lower.
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subían y bajaban.
20:12
And I would look at them:
"This is not an accident."
"This is not an accident."
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Y mientras los miraba, pensaba, esto no es un accidente.
Subir y bajar.
20:15
Rise and lower.
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Me daba mucha alegría verlos durmiendo.
20:18
And I got joy out of just
watching them sleep.
watching them sleep.
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20:24
Some people have the misguided idea
that God only gets excited
that God only gets excited
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Algunas personas tienen la idea errónea de que Dios solamente está satisfecho
cuando hacemos, entre comillas, "cosas espirituales",
20:27
when you're doing, quote,
"spiritual things,"
"spiritual things,"
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tales como asistir a reuniones de la iglesia o ayudar a los pobres,
20:29
like going to church or helping the poor,
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o confesarnos o cosas por el estilo.
20:32
or, you know, confessing
or doing something like that.
or doing something like that.
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En resumidas cuentas, Dios se complace en verte siendo tú mismo. ¿Por qué?
20:36
The bottom line is, God gets pleasure
watching you be you.
watching you be you.
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20:40
Why? He made you.
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El te hizo. Y cuando tú haces lo que fuiste diseñado para hacer,
20:42
And when you do what you were made to do,
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El dice, "Ese es mi hijo.
20:45
he goes, "That's my boy! That's my girl!
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Ese es mi hija.
Tú estás empleando los talentos y habilidades que te di".
20:49
You're using the talent
and ability that I gave you."
and ability that I gave you."
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El consejo que les doy es,
20:53
So my advice to you is:
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Miren lo que hay en sus manos --
20:55
look at what's in your hand --
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identidad, influencia, salario --
20:57
your identity, your influence,
your income --
your income --
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y díganse, "Esto no es solo para mí.
21:01
and say, "It's not about me.
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Esto es para hacer del mundo un lugar mejor".
21:04
It's about making the world
a better place."
a better place."
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Gracias.
21:08
Thank you.
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Rick Warren - Pastor, authorPastor Rick Warren is the author of The Purpose-Driven Life, which has sold more than 30 million copies worldwide. His has become an immensely influential voice seeking to apply the values of his faith to issues such as global poverty, HIV/AIDS and injustice.
Why you should listen
Pastor Rick Warren is one of the world's most influential Christians. His Saddleback Church, founded in 1980, boasts a congregation of 22,000, and his Purpose-Driven Life is one of the best-selling books of all time. Warren's mission is to attack what he calls the five "Global Goliaths" -- spiritual emptiness, egocentric leadership, extreme poverty, pandemic disease, and illiteracy and poor education.
He teaches that doing good is the only way humans create significance in our lives. He and his wife famously became "reverse tithers," donating 90 percent of their considerable fortune to philanthropic causes. Warren is particularly passionate about fighting AIDS, and in 2006, his church hosted the second annual Global Summit on AIDS and the Church, attended by US Senator Barack Obama, among others (controversial within the evangelical movement, because Obama is pro-choice).
In recent years, Warren has become a prominent steward of social justice, speaking out on poverty relief and encouraging spiritual leaders to play a role in guiding the planet toward sustainability. (He even attended the premiere of An Inconvenient Truth, after meeting Al Gore and producer Lawrence Bender at TED2006.)
Given his global focus and considerable platform, Warren has become a sought-after advisor to world leaders, speaking at the United Nations, the World Economic Forum and the Council on Foreign Relations. His involvement in the 2008 Presidential election sparked controversy and praise from both sides; during the campaign trail, he hosted candidates John McCain and Barack Obama at Saddleback Church for a forum on moral issues. It was the first time McCain and Obama appeared together publicly as presidential candidates. When Barack Obama was later elected to office, he asked Warren to give the invocation at his inauguration.
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