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James Patten: The best computer interface? Maybe ... your hands
Džejms Paten (James Patten): Najbolji kompjuterski interfejs? Možda... vaše ruke
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"Kompjuter je izuzetno moćno sredstvo kreativnog izraza", kaže dizajner Džejms Paten. No trenutno, mi smo u interakciji sa kompjuterima, uglavnom, preko tipkanja i tapkanja. U ovom izvanrednom govoru i demonstraciji, Paten zamišlja mnogo intuitivniji, fizički način da oživi vaše misli i ideje u digitalnom svetu, skidajući kompjuterski interfejs sa ekrana i stavljajući ga u vaše ruke.
James Patten - Interaction designer
James Patten, a TED Fellow, imagines new ways for us to play with computers. Full bio
James Patten, a TED Fellow, imagines new ways for us to play with computers. Full bio
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A computer is an incredibly powerful means
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Kompjuter je izuzetno moćno sredstvo
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of creative expression,
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kreativnog izražaja,
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but for the most part,
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ali je taj izražaj
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that expression is confined to the screens
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uglavnom sveden na ekrane
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of our laptops and mobile phones.
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naših laptopova i mobilnih telefona.
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And I'd like to tell you a story about
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A ja bih želeo da vam ispričam priču
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bringing this power of the computer
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o osposobljavanju te kompjuterske moći
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to move things around and interact with us
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da pomera predmete i reaguje sa nama
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off of the screen and into the physical world
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izvan naših ekrana i u sam fizički svet
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in which we live.
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u kojem živimo.
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A few years ago, I got a call from
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Pre nekoliko godina zvali su me
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a luxury fashion store called Barneys New York,
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iz luksuznog butika
zvanog "Barneys New York",
zvanog "Barneys New York",
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and the next thing I knew,
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i pre nego što sam znao,
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I was designing storefront kinetic sculptures
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kreirao sam kinetičke skulpture
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for their window displays.
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za njihove izloge.
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This one's called "The Chase."
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Ova se zove "Jurnjava".
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There are two pairs of shoes,
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Vidimo dva para cipela,
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a man's pair and a woman's pair,
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jedan muški i jedan ženski,
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and they play out this slow, tense chase
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koji se polako i napeto jure
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around the window
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po tom izlogu
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in which the man scoots up behind the woman
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u kojoj muškarac pojuri za ženom
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and gets in her personal space,
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i uđe u njen lični prostor
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and then she moves away.
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a zatim se ona udalji.
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Each of the shoes has magnets in it,
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Svaka cipela ima u sebi magnete
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and there are magnets underneath the table
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i postoje magneti ispod stola
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that move the shoes around.
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koji pomeraju cipele.
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My friend Andy Cavatorta was building
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Moj prijatelj Endi Kavatorta je pravio
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a robotic harp for Bjork's Biophilia tour
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robotsku harfu za turneju Bjork
pod nazivom "Biofilija",
pod nazivom "Biofilija",
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and I wound up building the electronics
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a ja sam se našao na izgradnji elektronike
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and motion control software
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i softvera za kontrolu pokreta
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to make the harps move and play music.
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koji pomera harfe i svira muziku.
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The harp has four separate pendulums,
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Harfa ima četiri odvojena viska
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and each pendulum has 11 strings,
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i svaki visak ima po 11 žica, tako da se
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so the harp swings on its axis and also rotates
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harfa vrti oko svoje ose ali i rotira
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in order to play different musical notes,
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kako bi svirala razne muzičke note,
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and the harps are all networked together
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dok su sve harfe povezane u mrežu
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so that they can play the right notes
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da bi svirale odgovarajuće note
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at the right time in the music.
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u pravo vreme u toj muzici.
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I built an interactive chemistry exhibit
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Napravio sam
i eksponat interaktivne hemije
i eksponat interaktivne hemije
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at the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago,
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u Muzeju nauke i industrije u Čikagu,
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and this exhibit lets people use physical objects
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koji omogućava da putem fizičkih objekata
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to grab chemical elements off of the periodic table
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uzmemo hemijske elemente
iz periodnog sistema i dovedemo ih
iz periodnog sistema i dovedemo ih
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and bring them together to cause
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u dodir da bismo
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chemical reactions to happen.
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prouzrokovali hemijske reakcije.
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And the museum noticed that people
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I muzej je primetio da su ljudi
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were spending a lot of time with this exhibit,
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provodili puno vremena
nad ovim eksponatom,
nad ovim eksponatom,
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and a researcher from a science education center
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i naučnica iz naučno obrazovnog centra
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in Australia decided to study this exhibit
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u Australiji je odlučila
da proučava eksponat
da proučava eksponat
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and try to figure out what was going on.
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i pokuša da razume o čemu se radi.
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And she found that the physical objects
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Otkrila je da su ti fizički objekti
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that people were using were helping people
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pomogli ljudima koji ih koriste
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understand how to use the exhibit,
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da shvate kako da koriste taj eksponat
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and were helping people learn in a social way.
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i da im pomaže da uče na društveni način.
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And when you think about
it, this makes a lot of sense,
it, this makes a lot of sense,
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I kad o tome razmislimo,
razumljivo je da
razumljivo je da
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that using specialized physical objects
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upotreba specijalizovanih
fizičkih predmeta
fizičkih predmeta
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would help people use an interface more easily.
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olakšava ljudima
upotrebu takvog interfejsa.
upotrebu takvog interfejsa.
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I mean, our hands and our minds are optimized
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Naše šake i naš um su optimizovani
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to think about and interact with tangible objects.
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za razmišljanje i interakciju
sa opipljivim predmetima.
sa opipljivim predmetima.
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Think about which you find easier to use,
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Pomislite samo
šta vam je lakše da koristite,
šta vam je lakše da koristite,
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a physical keyboard or an onscreen keyboard
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fizičku tastaturu ili onu na ekranu,
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like on a phone?
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kao na mobilnom?
Ali posebno me je iznenadilo,
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But the thing that struck me
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about all of these different projects
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u vezi sa svim ovim različitim projektima,
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is that they really had to be built from scratch,
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to da su svi oni pravljeni od nule,
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down to the level of the electronics
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počevši od nivoa elektronike
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and the printed circuit boards and
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i štampanih tabli,
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all the mechanisms all the way up to the software.
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strujnih kola, preko svih mehanizama
sve do softvera.
sve do softvera.
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I wanted to create something
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Ja sam želeo da kreiram nešto
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where we could move objects
under computer control
under computer control
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gde bismo mogli da pomeramo predmete
pod kompjuterskom kontrolom
pod kompjuterskom kontrolom
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and create interactions around that idea
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i stvorimo interakcije oko te ideje
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without having to go through this process
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zaobilazeći taj proces
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of building something from scratch
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stvaranja nečega od nule
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every single time.
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baš svaki put.
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So my first attempt at this
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Tako, moj prvi pokušaj
na tome se desio
na tome se desio
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was at the MIT Media Lab
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u Medijskoj laboratoriji MIT-a,
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with Professor Hiroshi Ishii,
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sa profesorom Hiroši Išijem,
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and we built this array of
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gde smo napravili uređaj
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512 different electromagnets,
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od 512 raznih elektromagneta
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and together they were able to move objects around
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koji su bili sposobni
da pomeraju predmete
da pomeraju predmete
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on top of their surface.
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na svojoj površini.
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But the problem with this
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No, problem sa tim
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was that these magnets
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je bio da su ti magneti
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cost over 10,000 dollars.
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koštali preko 10 000 dolara.
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Although each one was pretty small,
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Iako je svaki bio prilično mali,
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altogether they weighed so much
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zajedno su bili toliko teški da je
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that the table that they were on
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sto na kojima su oni bili
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started to sag.
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počeo da se povija.
Zato sam hteo da napravim nešto gde
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So I wanted to build something
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where you could have this kind of interaction
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se postiže ova vrsta interakcije
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on any tabletop surface.
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na bilo kojoj površini stola.
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So to explore this idea,
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Znači, da bih istražio ovu ideju,
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I built an army of small robots,
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napravio sam bataljon malih robota,
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and each of these robots has
what are called omni wheels.
what are called omni wheels.
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gde svaki od njih ima
takozvane omni-točkiće.
takozvane omni-točkiće.
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They're these special wheels
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To su posebni točkići
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that can move equally easily in all directions,
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koji mogu lako da se kreću
u svim smerovima
u svim smerovima
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and when you couple these robots
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i kad se ovi roboti povežu
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with a video projector,
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sa video projektorom,
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you have these physical tools
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dobijemo te fizičke alatke
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for interacting with digital information.
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za interakciju
sa digitalnim informacijama.
sa digitalnim informacijama.
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So here's an example of what I mean.
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Ovde vidimo primer toga
o čemu pričam.
o čemu pričam.
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This is a video editing application
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Ovo je program
za izmenu video snimaka
za izmenu video snimaka
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where all of the controls
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gde su sve kontrole
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for manipulating the video are physical.
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za manipulisanje videom fizičke.
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So if we want to tweak the color,
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Tako, ako hoćemo da menjamo boju,
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we just enter the color mode,
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samo uđemo u opciju boja
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and then we get three different dials
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i dobijemo tri dugmeta
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for tweaking the color,
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za menjanje boje,
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or if we want to adjust the audio,
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ili ako hoćemo da regulišemo zvuk,
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then we get two different dials
for that, these physical objects.
for that, these physical objects.
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dobijemo dva dugmeta za to.
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So here the left and right channel stay in sync,
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Ovde levi i desni kanal
ostaju sinhronizovani,
ostaju sinhronizovani,
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but if we want to, we can override that
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ali ako hoćemo,
to možemo promeniti
to možemo promeniti
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by grabbing both of them at the same time.
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time što ćemo zgrabiti oba istovremeno.
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So the idea is that we get the speed
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Ideja je da dobijemo na brzini
i efikasnosti
i efikasnosti
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and efficiency benefits of using these physical dials
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koristeći ovu fizičku dugmad,
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together with the flexibility and versatility
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kao i na fleksibilnosti i mnogostranosti
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of a system that's designed in software.
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sistema koji je dizajniran u softveru.
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And this is a mapping application
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A ovo je aplikacija za mapiranje
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for disaster response.
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za reakciju na katastrofe.
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So you have these physical objects
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Tu su fizički predmeti koji predstavljaju
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that represent police, fire and rescue,
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policiju, vatrogasce i spasioce
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and a dispatcher can grab them
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pa dispečer može da ih uzme
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and place them on the map
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i postavi ih na mapu
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to tell those units where to go,
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da bi obavestio trupe gde da idu,
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and then the position of the units on the map
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i tada se njihova pozicija na mapi
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gets synced up with the position
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uskladi sa pozicijama
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of those units in the real world.
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tih trupa u stvarnom svetu.
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This is a video chat application.
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Ovo je aplikacija za video čet.
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It's amazing how much emotion you can convey
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Neverovatno koliko emocija
možemo iskazati
možemo iskazati
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with just a few simple movements
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sa nekoliko jednostavnih
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of a physical object.
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pokreta jednog fizičkog predmeta.
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With this interface, we open up
a huge array of possibilities
a huge array of possibilities
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Sa ovim interfejsom,
otvaramo čitav niz mogućnosti
otvaramo čitav niz mogućnosti
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in between traditional board games
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između klasičnih društvenih
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and arcade games,
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i arkadnih igara
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where the physical possibilities of interaction
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gde ta mogućnost fizičke interakcije
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make so many different styles of play possible.
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pruža mnoge druge stilove igre.
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But one of the areas that I'm most excited
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Ali jedna oblast
koja me posebno uzbuđuje
koja me posebno uzbuđuje
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about using this platform for
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u vezi sa upotrebom ove platforme
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is applying it to problems that are difficult
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je njena primenljivost
na probleme koji su teški
na probleme koji su teški
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for computers or people to solve alone.
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i za kompjutere
i za ljude da ih sami reše.
i za ljude da ih sami reše.
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One example of those is protein folding.
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Jedan od primera je savijanje proteina.
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So here we have an interface
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Tako ovde imamo interfejs
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where we have physical handles onto a protein,
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gde imamo fizičke ručke u proteinu,
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and we can grab those handles
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koje možemo da uhvatimo i pomerimo
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and try to move the protein and
try to fold it in different ways.
try to fold it in different ways.
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protein i pokušamo da
ga savijemo na različite načine.
ga savijemo na različite načine.
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And if we move it in a way that
doesn't really make sense
doesn't really make sense
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I ako ga pomerimo na način
koji nema smisla u odnosu
koji nema smisla u odnosu
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with the underlying molecular simulation,
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na načela molekularne simulacije,
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we get this physical feedback where we can
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dobijemo fizički odgovor gde u stvari
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actually feel these physical handles
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možemo fizički da osetimo te ručke
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pulling back against us.
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kako nam se suprotstavljaju.
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So feeling what's going on
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Taj osećaj šta se događa
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inside a molecular simulation
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unutar molekularne simulacije
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is a whole different level of interaction.
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je potpuno novi nivo interakcije.
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So we're just beginning to explore
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Ali tek smo na početku istraživanja
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what's possible when we use software
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toga šta je moguće kad koristimo softver
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to control the movement
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da bismo upravljali kretanjem
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of objects in our environment.
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predmeta u našem okruženju.
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Maybe this is the computer of the future.
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Možda je ovo kompjuter budućnosti.
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There's no touchscreen.
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Nema ekrana na dodir.
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There's no technology visible at all.
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Nema uopšte vidljive tehnologije.
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But when we want to have a video chat
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Ali kad poželimo da četujemo preko videa
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or play a game
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ili igramo igru
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or lay out the slides to our next TED Talk,
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ili projektujemo slajdove
na sledećem TED govoru,
na sledećem TED govoru,
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the objects on the table come alive.
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predmeti na stolu ožive.
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Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
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(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
James Patten - Interaction designerJames Patten, a TED Fellow, imagines new ways for us to play with computers.
Why you should listen
James Patten is an interaction designer, inventor and visual artist working at the intersection of the physical and digital worlds. Patten is a TED Fellow and the founder and principal of the design firm Patten Studio, where his clients have included Björk, Barneys New York, General Electric, Steelcase and Autodesk. Patten earned his doctorate at the MIT Media Lab where he studied in the Tangible Media Group under Hiroshi Ishii. His work has been exhibited or performed in venues such as the Museum of Modern Art, the Transmediale festival in Berlin, the Museo Guggenheim Bilbao and the Ars Electronica Center in Linz, Austria. Patten's work has been recognized in several international design competitions including the International Design Magazine's Annual Design Review, and the International Design Excellence Awards. Tour his Brooklyn workshop.
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