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Christopher "moot" Poole: The case for anonymity online
Kristofer "mut" Pul (Christopher "moot" Poole): Slučaj onlajn anonimnosti
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Osnivač 4chan-a, kontroverznog, necenzurisanog internet foruma, opisuje podkulturu ovog veb sajta, neke od internet "mimova" koje je popularizovao, kao i incident u kom su njegovi članovi javno i sa velikom preciznošću hakovali jedan mejnstrim medijski veb sajt. Ovaj govor diskutuje o količini moći koja dolazi uz anonimnost, ali i o njenoj ceni.
Christopher "moot" Poole - Founder, 4chan
Christopher "moot" Poole is founder of 4chan, an online imageboard whose anonymous denizens have spawned the web's most bewildering -- and influential -- subculture. Full bio
Christopher "moot" Poole is founder of 4chan, an online imageboard whose anonymous denizens have spawned the web's most bewildering -- and influential -- subculture. Full bio
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Tom Green: That's a 4chan thing.
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Tom Grin: To je sa 4chan-a.
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These kids on the Internet, they have this group of kids
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Postoji grupa klinaca na internetu
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and they like to say funny words
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koja voli da koristi
neobične reči
neobične reči
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like "barrel roll."
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kao što je "bure valjak"
(barrel roll).
(barrel roll).
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It's a video game move from "Star Fox."
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To je potez iz video igrice
"Star Fox".
"Star Fox".
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"Star Fox 20"? (Assistant: "Star Fox 64.")
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"Star Fox 20"?
(Asistent: "Star Fox 64.")
(Asistent: "Star Fox 64.")
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Tom Green: Yeah. And they've been dogging me for a year.
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Tom Grin: Da. I godinu dana
me gnjave.
me gnjave.
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I got to tell you, it's driving me nuts, actually.
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Moram da priznam
da me dovodi do ludila.
da me dovodi do ludila.
00:34
Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night and I scream,
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Ponekad se probudim u sred noći
i vrisnem:
i vrisnem:
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"4chan!"
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"4chan!"
00:43
Christopher Poole: When I was 15,
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Kristofer Pul: Kada sam imao
petnaest godina,
petnaest godina,
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I found this website called Futaba Channel.
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pronašao sam veb sajt
pod imenom Futaba Kanal.
pod imenom Futaba Kanal.
00:48
And it was a Japanese forum and imageboard.
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Bio je to japanski forum
i sajt za postavljanje slika.
i sajt za postavljanje slika.
00:52
That format of forum, at that time,
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U to doba,
forum takvog formata
forum takvog formata
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was not well-known outside of Japan.
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nije bio poznat nigde
osim u Japanu.
osim u Japanu.
00:57
And so what I did is I took it, I translated it into English,
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Zbog toga sam ja taj format uzeo,
preveo ga na engleski
preveo ga na engleski
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and I stuck it up for my friends to use.
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i postavio ga na internet na korišćenje
mojim prijateljima.
mojim prijateljima.
01:03
Now, six and a half years later,
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A sada,
šest i po godina kasnije,
šest i po godina kasnije,
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over seven million people are using it,
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koristi ga
preko sedam miliona ljudi,
preko sedam miliona ljudi,
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contributing over 700,000 posts per day.
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doprinoseći sa više od
700.000 postova na dan.
700.000 postova na dan.
01:10
And we've gone from one board
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I prešli smo sa jednog podforuma
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to 48 boards.
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na 48.
01:15
This is what it looks like.
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Ovako to izgleda.
01:17
So, what's unique about the site
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Ono što je jedinstveno
za ovaj sajt
za ovaj sajt
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is that it's anonymous,
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je to da je anoniman
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and it has no memory.
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i da nema memoriju.
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There's no archive, there are no barriers, there's no registration.
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Ne postoji arhiva, nema ograničenja,
nema registracije.
nema registracije.
01:26
These things that we're used to with forums
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Ono što se za druge forume
podrazumeva,
podrazumeva,
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don't exist on 4chan.
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na 4chan-u ne postoji.
01:30
And that's led to this
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I upravo to dovodi
01:32
discussion that's completely raw, completely unfiltered.
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do pravih, nefiltriranih diskusija.
01:37
What the site's known for,
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Ono po čemu je sajt poznat,
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because it has this environment,
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upravo zbog ovakve sredine,
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is it's fostered the creation of a lot of
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je da je iznedrio mnogobrojne
internet fenomene
internet fenomene
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Internet phenomena, viral videos and whatnot, known as "memes."
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i popularne video snimke,
poznatije kao meme.
poznatije kao meme.
01:46
Two of the largest memes that have come out of this site
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Dva najveća mima
koja su nastala na ovom sajtu -
koja su nastala na ovom sajtu -
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some of you might be familiar with are these LOLcats --
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a nekima od vas su možda
već poznate, su LOLmačke -
već poznate, su LOLmačke -
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just silly pictures of cats with text.
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one smešne slike
mačaka sa tekstom.
mačaka sa tekstom.
01:54
And this resonates with millions of people, apparently,
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U ovome se očigledno prepoznaje
na milione ljudi,
na milione ljudi,
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because there are tens of thousands of these,
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jer postoje na desetine hiljada
ovakvih slika
ovakvih slika
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and there is a whole blogging empire now
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i danas postoji čitavo
bloging carstvo
bloging carstvo
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dedicated to pictures like these.
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posvećeno slikama
kao što su ove.
kao što su ove.
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And Rick Astley's kind of rebirth
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I svojevrsno "ponovno rođenje"
Rika Estlija
Rika Estlija
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these past two years ...
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u protekle dve godine.
02:08
Rickroll was this bait and switch,
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"Rikrol" je u neku ruku vrsta
"namami pa zameni" prevare,
"namami pa zameni" prevare,
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really simple, classic bait and switch.
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veoma jednostavna, klasična
"namami pa zameni".
"namami pa zameni".
02:12
Somebody says they're linking to something interesting,
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Neko vam kaže da vam šalje
link za nešto interesantno,
link za nešto interesantno,
02:15
and you get an '80s pop song. That's all it was.
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a umesto toga dobijete
pop pesmu iz osamdesetih.
pop pesmu iz osamdesetih.
02:18
And it got big enough to the point where
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I postalo je toliko popularno,
da je dovelo do toga
da je dovelo do toga
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there was a float last year at the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade,
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da je u toku prošlogodišnje "Mejsijeve"
parade za Dan zahvalnosti
parade za Dan zahvalnosti
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and Rick Astley pops out, and rickrolls
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sam Rik Estli iskočio iz jedne od platformi
i "rikrolovao"
i "rikrolovao"
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millions of people on television.
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milione ljudi na televiziji.
02:27
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
02:30
There are thousands of memes that come out of the site.
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Postoji na hiljade mimova
koji su proizašli iz sajta.
koji su proizašli iz sajta.
02:32
There are a handful that have escaped into the mainstream,
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Šačica njih je pobegla u mejnstrim
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the ones I've just shown you,
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i to ove koje sam vam
upravo pokazao,
upravo pokazao,
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but every day, every month,
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ali svakog dana, svakog meseca
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people are producing thousands of these.
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ljudi stvaraju na hiljade njih.
02:43
So does a site like this have rules?
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Dakle, da li sajt poput ovog
ima pravila?
ima pravila?
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We do; they're the codified rules that I've come up with,
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Imamo ih - to su kodifikovana pravila
koja sam smislio
koja sam smislio
02:48
which are more-or-less ignored by the community.
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i koja čitava zajednica
manje-više ignoriše.
manje-više ignoriše.
02:51
And so they've come up with their own set of rules,
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Zato su članovi smislili
sopstvena pravila,
sopstvena pravila,
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the "Rules of the Internet."
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takozvana "pravila interneta."
02:55
And so there are three that I want to show you specifically.
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Postoje tri
koja bih podelio sa vama.
koja bih podelio sa vama.
02:58
Rule one is you don't talk about /b/.
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Prvo pravilo je
da ne pričaš o /b/.
da ne pričaš o /b/.
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Two is you do not talk about /b/.
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Drugo je
da ne pričaš o /b/.
da ne pričaš o /b/.
03:04
And this one's kind of interesting:
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I naredno je interesantno:
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"If it exists, there is porn of it. No exceptions."
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"Ako nešto postoji, ima i pornografija toga.
Bez izuzetaka."
Bez izuzetaka."
03:09
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
03:11
And I will spare you that slide.
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Taj slajd vam neću pokazati.
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I assure you, it is very true.
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Uveravam vas,
sasvim je tačno.
sasvim je tačno.
03:16
/b/ is the first board we started with,
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/b/ je prvi podforum
sa kojim smo počeli
sa kojim smo počeli
03:19
and it is, in many ways,
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i na mnogo načina je
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the beating heart of the website.
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samo srce celog veb sajta.
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It is where a third of all the traffic is going.
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On čini trećinu prometa.
03:26
And /b/ is known for,
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/b/ je poznat po
03:28
more than anything,
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više nego ičemu,
03:30
not just the memes they've created, but the exploits.
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ne samo mimovima koje je stvorio,
već i po masovnim akcijama.
već i po masovnim akcijama.
03:33
And Chris just touched on one of those a second ago,
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Kris je samo pomenuo
jednu od tih malopre
jednu od tih malopre
03:36
and that was the Time 100 poll.
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i to baš anketu "Tajm 100".
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So somebody at Time, at the magazine,
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Izgleda da je neko
iz "Tajm" magazina
iz "Tajm" magazina
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thought it would be fun to nominate me
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mislio da bi bilo zabavno
nominovati mene
nominovati mene
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for this thing they did last year.
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za nekakav izbor prošle godine.
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And so they placed me on it,
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Stavili su moje ime
na listu kandidata
na listu kandidata
03:48
and the Internet got wind of it. My community
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i internet je ubrzo saznao za to.
Moja zajednica
Moja zajednica
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decided they wanted me to win it.
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je odlučila da želi da pobedim.
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I didn't instruct them to do it; they just decided that that's what they wanted.
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Nisam im ništa naredio - sami su odlučili
da je to nešto što oni žele.
da je to nešto što oni žele.
03:57
And so, you know, 390 percent approval rating ain't so bad.
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I znate, 390 procenata glasova
i nije tako loše.
i nije tako loše.
04:00
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
04:02
So they broke that poll.
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Rasturili su anketu.
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And I ended up on top.
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I ja sam dospeo
na vrh liste.
na vrh liste.
04:07
I ended up at this really fancy party.
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Završio sam
na veoma otmenoj zabavi.
na veoma otmenoj zabavi.
04:10
But that's not what's interesting about this.
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Međutim, ovaj čin nije
zbog toga interesantan.
zbog toga interesantan.
04:13
It's that they weren't putting me at the top of this list;
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Već zbog toga što korisnici ne samo da su
mene stavljali na vrh liste;
mene stavljali na vrh liste;
04:16
they were actually --
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oni su, u stvari -
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it got so sophisticated to the point where they gamed
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postalo je toliko precizno,
da su se u jednom momentu poigravali
da su se u jednom momentu poigravali
04:20
all of the top 21 places
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sa glasanjem za prvih 21 mesta
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to spell "mARBLECAKE. ALSO, THE GAME."
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kako bi lista ispisala "mARBLECAKE.
ALSO, THE GAME."
ALSO, THE GAME."
04:26
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
04:29
The amount of time and effort that went into that
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Količina truda i vremena
koja je uložena u ovako nešto
koja je uložena u ovako nešto
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is absolutely incredible.
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je apsolutno neverovatna.
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And "marble cake" is significant because
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A "marble cake" je značajan
zbog toga što
zbog toga što
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it is the channel that this group called Anonymous organized.
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je to kanal koju organizuje grupa
pod imenom "Anonimus".
pod imenom "Anonimus".
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Anonymous is this group of people
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Anonimus je grupa ljudi
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that protested, very famously,
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koja je vršila proteste
protiv sajentologije,
protiv sajentologije,
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Scientology.
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i to veoma popularno.
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The story is,
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Prema priči, sajentologija je
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Scientology had this embarrassing video of Tom Cruise. It went up online.
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posedovala jedan veoma sramotan snimak
Toma Kruza, koji je nekako dospeo na internet.
Toma Kruza, koji je nekako dospeo na internet.
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They got it taken offline and managed to piss off part of the Internet.
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Ubrzo su ga i skinuli, što je uspelo
da razjari dobar deo interneta.
da razjari dobar deo interneta.
04:55
And so these people, over 7,000 people,
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Tako da se oko 7 000 ljudi
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less than one month later,
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za samo manje od mesec dana
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organized in a hundred cities around the globe and --
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organizovalo u stotinu gradova
širom planete i -
širom planete i -
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this is L.A. --
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ovo je u Los Anđelesu -
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protested the Church of Scientology,
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protestovalo protiv sajentološke crkve.
05:07
and they have continued to do so,
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Oni nastavljaju to da čine
i dan danas,
i dan danas,
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now, two full years after the fact.
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pune dve godine nakon incidenta.
05:11
They are still protesting.
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I dalje protestuju.
05:13
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
05:20
So we've got this activist group that's this grassroots group
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Dakle, postoji i ova grupa aktivista
čiji su koreni
čiji su koreni
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that's come out of the site.
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na našem sajtu.
05:25
And last, I'm going to show you the example,
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I za kraj, pokazaću vam
još jedan primer.
još jedan primer.
05:27
the story of Dusty the cat.
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Priču o mačoru Dastiju.
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Dusty is the name that we've given to this cat.
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Dasti je ime
koje smo mu mi dali.
koje smo mu mi dali.
05:32
This young man
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Jedan mladić
05:34
posted a video
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je postavio video na Jutjub
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of him abusing his cat on YouTube.
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u kom zlostavlja svoju mačku.
05:39
And, you know, this didn't sit well with people,
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I sada, pretpostavljate,
to se ljudima nije dopalo,
to se ljudima nije dopalo,
05:42
and so there was this outpouring of support
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što je dovelo do izliva podrške
05:46
for people to do something about this.
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kako bi se učinilo
nešto povodom ovoga.
nešto povodom ovoga.
05:50
So what they did is they -- I mean, they put CSI to shame here --
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Ono što se dogodilo je - a što baca i samo
"Mesto zločina" u senku -
"Mesto zločina" u senku -
05:53
the Internet detectives came out.
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da su se pojavili internet detektivi.
05:55
They matched, they found his MySpace.
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Upoređivali su slike,
pronašli dečkov Majspejs nalog.
pronašli dečkov Majspejs nalog.
05:58
They took the YouTube video and they mashed everything in the video.
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Uzeli su taj snimak sa Jutjuba
i proučavali sve sa njega.
i proučavali sve sa njega.
06:01
Within 24 hours,
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U roku od 24 sata
06:03
they had his name,
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imali su njegovo ime.
06:05
and within 48 hours, he was arrested.
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Nakon 48 sati,
bio je uhapšen.
bio je uhapšen.
06:09
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
06:16
And so, what I think is really intriguing
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Dakle, ono što je
za mene zanimljivo
za mene zanimljivo
06:18
about a community like 4chan
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kod zajednice kao što je 4chan
06:20
is just that it's this open place.
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jeste da je to jedno
otvoreno mesto.
otvoreno mesto.
06:22
As I said, it's raw, it's unfiltered.
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Kao što sam već rekao,
sirovo je, nefiltrirano.
sirovo je, nefiltrirano.
06:24
And sites like it are kind of
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I svi sajtovi nalik njemu
06:26
going the way of the dinosaur right now.
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polako kreću stopama dinosaurusa.
06:28
They're endangered because we're moving
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Ugroženi su jer se približavamo
06:30
towards social networking.
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drštvenim mrežama.
06:32
We're moving towards persistent identity.
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Idemo ka učvršćenom identitetu.
06:34
We're moving towards,
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Idemo prema, u stvari,
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you know, a lack of privacy, really.
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nedostatku privatnosti.
06:39
We're sacrificing a lot of that, and I think in doing so,
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Žrtvujemo mnogo toga
i smatram da,
i smatram da,
06:42
moving towards those things, we're losing something valuable.
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krećući se ka takvim stvarima,
gubimo nešto zaista vredno.
gubimo nešto zaista vredno.
06:45
Thank you.
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Hvala.
06:47
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
06:55
Chris Anderson: Thank you.
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Kris Anderson: Hvala.
06:57
Got a couple questions for you.
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Imam nekoliko pitanja za tebe.
06:59
But if I ask them, is the TED website going to go down?
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Ali ako ih postavim,
hoće li TED veb sajt pasti?
hoće li TED veb sajt pasti?
07:02
CP: You're lucky that this is not
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KP: Imate sreće
07:04
being streamed to them live right now.
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što im se ovo ne prikazuje
uživo preko interneta.
uživo preko interneta.
07:06
CA: Well, you never know. Some of them --
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KA: Pa, nikad ne znaš.
Neki od njih -
Neki od njih -
07:08
we've got people in 75 countries out there watching.
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imamo publiku u 75 zemalja
koja trenutno gleda.
koja trenutno gleda.
07:11
Don't tell.
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Nemojte im reći.
07:14
But seriously,
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Ali ozbiljno,
07:16
this issue on anonymity is --
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pitanje anonimnosti je -
07:18
I mean, you made the case there.
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mislim, izneo si slučaj.
07:20
But anonymity basically allows people to say anything,
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Ali anonimnost, u principu,
dozvoljava ljudima da kažu bilo šta,
dozvoljava ljudima da kažu bilo šta,
07:23
all the rules gone.
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nema pravila.
07:25
You've had to wrestle with issues like child pornography.
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Suočavao si se sa problemima
poput dečije porografije.
poput dečije porografije.
07:27
And I'm just curious whether you
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Ono što me sada zanima je,
07:30
sometimes lie awake in the night
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da li ponekad ležiš budan noću
07:32
worrying that you've opened Pandora's box.
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brinući da si možda
otvorio Pandorinu kutiju.
otvorio Pandorinu kutiju.
07:36
CP: Yes and no.
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KP: I da i ne.
07:38
I mean, for as much good
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Mislim, za sve dobro
07:40
that kind of comes out of this environment,
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koje proizađe iz ove sredine,
07:42
there is plenty of bad.
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ima i mnogo lošeg.
07:44
There are plenty of downsides.
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Mnogo je loših strana.
07:46
But I think that the greater good
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Ali smatram
da se postižu neki viši ciljevi
da se postižu neki viši ciljevi
07:49
is being served here by just allowing people --
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tako što se ljudima dozvoljava -
07:51
there are very few places, now, where you can go
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postoji veoma malo mesta danas
na koja možete otići
na koja možete otići
07:54
and not have identity, to be completely anonymous
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i nemati identitet,
biti potpuno anonimni.
biti potpuno anonimni.
07:56
and say whatever you'd like.
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Da možete reći šta god želite.
07:58
And saying whatever you like, I think, is powerful.
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A po mom mišljenju,
reći šta želite je moćno.
reći šta želite je moćno.
08:01
Doing whatever you like is now crossing a line.
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Raditi šta želite je već
prelaženje nekih granica,
prelaženje nekih granica,
08:03
But I think it's important to have these places.
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ali smatram da je važno
imati ovakva mesta.
imati ovakva mesta.
08:06
When I get emails, people say, "Thank you for giving me this place,
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Nekada mi stižu mejlovi u kojima ljudi kažu:
"Hvala ti što si mi dao ovo mesto,
"Hvala ti što si mi dao ovo mesto,
08:09
this outlet, where I can come after work
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ovaj ventil, gde mogu da dođem
nakon posla
nakon posla
08:11
and be myself."
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i budem svoj."
08:13
CA: But words, saying things,
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K.A: Ali reči, govoriti neke stvari
08:17
you know, can be constructive; it can be really damaging.
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sa jedne strane može biti konstruktivno
ali može mnogo i da ošteti.
ali može mnogo i da ošteti.
08:20
And if you cut the link between what is said
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I ako presečeš tu vezu
između onoga što je izrečeno
između onoga što je izrečeno
08:23
and any attribution back to you,
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i svake povezanosti
sa onim ko to piše,
sa onim ko to piše,
08:25
I mean, surely there are huge risks with that.
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sigurno donosi velike rizike.
08:28
CP: There are, certainly.
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K.P: Da, postoje rizici.
08:30
But --
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Ali -
08:32
CA: Tell me about what -- I mean, I think you asked the board
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K.A: Reci mi -
Mislim da si pitao forum
Mislim da si pitao forum
08:35
what you might say at TED, right?
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šta bi mogao da kažeš
na TED-u danas, zar ne?
na TED-u danas, zar ne?
08:37
CP: Yeah, I posted a thread
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K.P: Da, započeo sam diskusiju
08:39
on Sunday.
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u nedelju.
08:41
And within 24 hours,
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U roku od 24 sata
08:43
it had over 12,000 responses.
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dobio sam 12 000 odgovora.
08:45
And the thing is,
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Stvar je u tome
08:48
I didn't make it into that presentation
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da to nisam stavio u prezentaciju
08:50
because I can't read to you anything that they said, more or less.
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jer ne mogu da ti pročitam ništa od onoga
što su oni napisali. Manje-više.
što su oni napisali. Manje-više.
08:52
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
08:54
99 percent of it is just,
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99 procenata odgovora
08:57
would have been, you know, bleeped out.
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bi, znaš,
moralo biti cenzurisano.
moralo biti cenzurisano.
08:59
But there were some good things that came out of that too.
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Ali i nekoliko dobrih stvari
je takođe proizašlo iz toga.
je takođe proizašlo iz toga.
09:01
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
09:03
Love and peace were mentioned.
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Spomenuti su ljubav i mir.
09:05
CA: Love and peace were mentioned,
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K.A: Ljubav i mir su spomenuti,
09:07
kind of with quote marks around them, right?
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ali pod znacima navoda,
verovatno?
verovatno?
09:09
CP: Cats and dogs were mentioned too.
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K.P: Mačke i psi
su takođe bili pomenuti.
su takođe bili pomenuti.
09:11
CA: And that content is all off the board now.
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K.A: I ti odgovori sada su
skinuti sa foruma?
skinuti sa foruma?
09:14
Right, it's gone? Or is it still up there?
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Jesu li skinuti?
Ili su ostali?
Ili su ostali?
09:16
CP: I stuck that thread so it lasted a few days.
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K.P: Diskusija je stajala tamo
nekoliko dana.
nekoliko dana.
09:18
It went up to about 16,000 posts,
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Narasla je na oko
16 000 odgovora,
16 000 odgovora,
09:20
and now it has been taken off.
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ali je sada skinuta.
09:23
CA: Okay, well.
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K.P: Dobro.
09:27
Now, I'm not sure I would have necessarily recommended
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Nisam potpuno siguran
da bih baš svima sa TED-a
da bih baš svima sa TED-a
09:29
everyone at TED to go and check it out anyway.
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preporučio da odu i
pogledaju to.
pogledaju to.
09:33
Chris, you yourself? I mean, you're a figure of some intrigue.
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A ti, Kris? Mislim, i ti si neka vrsta
intrigantne ličnosti.
intrigantne ličnosti.
09:36
You've got this surprising
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Imaš taj iznenađujući
09:38
semi-underground influence,
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delimični andergraund uticaj,
09:41
but it's not making you a lot of money, yet.
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koji ti, međutim,
još uvek ne donosi zaradu.
još uvek ne donosi zaradu.
09:45
What's the commercial picture here?
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Kakva je ovde
komercijalna zamisao?
komercijalna zamisao?
09:48
CP: The commercial picture is that there really isn't
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K.P: Pa, komercijalna zamisao je ta
09:50
much of one, I guess.
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da je baš i nema, pretpostavljam.
09:52
The site has adult content on it.
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Sajt ima sadržaj za odrasle.
09:55
I mean, obviously, it's got some very offensive, obscene content on it,
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Očigledno ima veoma uvredljive,
neprimerene stvari
neprimerene stvari
09:57
just in terms of language alone.
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i to samo kada je jezik u pitanju.
09:59
And when you've got that, you've pretty much sacrificed
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I kada imate tako nešto na sajtu,
već ste poprilično
već ste poprilično
10:02
any hope of making lots of money.
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žrtvovali bilo kakve nade
o velikoj zaradi.
o velikoj zaradi.
10:05
CA: But you still live at home, right?
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K.A: Još uvek živiš kod kuće,
je l' da?
je l' da?
10:08
CP: I actually moved out recently.
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K.P: U stvari,
nedavno sam se odselio.
nedavno sam se odselio.
10:10
CA: That's very cool.
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KA: To je veoma kul.
10:12
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
10:14
CP: I got out of Mom's, and I'm back in school right now.
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K.P: Iselio sam se iz mamine kuće
i sada sam ponovo u školi.
i sada sam ponovo u školi.
10:17
CA: But what conversations did you or do you
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K.A: Kakve razgovore si imao
ili još uvek imaš
ili još uvek imaš
10:19
have with your mother about 4chan?
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sa svojom majkom o 4chan-u?
10:22
CP: At first, very kind of pained,
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K.P: U početku su bili nategnuti,
10:24
awkward conversations.
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neprijatni.
10:26
The content is not dinner table conversation in the least.
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Tema nikako nije prikladna za razgovor
u toku porodičnog ručka.
u toku porodičnog ručka.
10:30
But my parents -- I think part of why
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Ali, moji roditelji - mislim da
10:33
they kind of are able to appreciate it
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cene to što radim,
delom zbog toga
delom zbog toga
10:36
is because they don't understand it.
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što ne razumeju
ništa u vezi sa time.
ništa u vezi sa time.
10:38
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
10:41
CA: And they were probably pleased to see you
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K.A: Verovatno im je bilo drago
da te vide
da te vide
10:44
on top of the Time poll.
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na vrhu "Tajmove" liste.
10:46
CP: Yeah. They still didn't know what to think of that though.
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K.P: Da. Mada, još uvek ne znaju
šta da misle o tome.
šta da misle o tome.
10:49
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
10:51
CA: And so, in 10 years' time,
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K.A: Dakle, gde sebe zamišljaš
10:53
what do you picture yourself doing?
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za deset godina?
10:56
CP: That's a good question.
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K.P: Dobro pitanje.
10:58
As I said, I just went back to school,
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Kao što rekoh,
vratio sam se u školu
vratio sam se u školu
11:00
and I am considering
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i trenutno razmišljam
11:02
majoring in urban studies
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da diplomiram urbanizam,
11:04
and then going on to urban planning,
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i onda pređem
na urbanističko planiranje.
na urbanističko planiranje.
11:06
kind of taking whatever I've learned from online communities
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Da uzmem ono što sam naučio
iz internet zajednica
iz internet zajednica
11:09
and trying to adapt that
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i da pokušam da primenim
to znanje
to znanje
11:11
to a physical community.
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na fizičku zajednicu.
11:14
CA: Chris, thank you. Absolutely fascinating. Thank you for coming to TED.
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K.A: Hvala ti, Kris. Apsolutno fascinantno.
Hvala ti što si došao na TED.
Hvala ti što si došao na TED.
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Christopher "moot" Poole - Founder, 4chanChristopher "moot" Poole is founder of 4chan, an online imageboard whose anonymous denizens have spawned the web's most bewildering -- and influential -- subculture.
Why you should listen
Since its inception in 2003, Christopher "moot" Poole's controversial imageboard, 4chan, has gained worldwide notoriety as a breeding ground for many of the most recognizable Internet "memes" (think LOLcats). It was also the source of a high-profile hack of a mainstream media website and at least one spirited -- if morally inscrutable -- activist campaign in the real world.
Despite the server-crippling traffic it attracts, this last major enclave of the untamed Internet terrifies advertisers, and moot struggles to keep it afloat. Though you might regard much of its content as obscene or just plain weird, it's become a fixture on the fringe of the mainstream -- and a cultural force all its own.
In January 2015 Poole stepped down from 4chan after eleven and a half years as its founding administrator.
Christopher "moot" Poole | Speaker | TED.com