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Dustin Yellin: A journey through the mind of an artist
达斯汀·叶林: 探访艺术家心灵的旅程
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艺术家达斯汀·叶林笔下的作品，纷繁复杂切具有神秘色彩，令人着迷。他是如何开创出自己风格的呢？在这次愉快的演讲中，他分享了作为一名艺术家的心路历程——从8岁开始——他以其独特的思考和观察方式，找到并踏上了这段引领他完成最新代表作的艺术旅途。
Dustin Yellin - Sculptor
Acclaimed for his monumental “sculptural paintings,” Dustin Yellin now nurtures voices in the art community with Pioneer Works, his mammoth Brooklyn art center. Full bio
Acclaimed for his monumental “sculptural paintings,” Dustin Yellin now nurtures voices in the art community with Pioneer Works, his mammoth Brooklyn art center. Full bio
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00:12
I was raised by lesbians in the mountains,
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我被一群生活在山上的
女同性恋人士养大，
女同性恋人士养大，
00:14
and I sort of came like a forest gnome
to New York City a while back.
to New York City a while back.
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不久前我还像是个误入纽约的
森林小矮人。
森林小矮人。
（笑声）
00:18
(Laughter)
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我的脑子变得很混乱，
待会儿再细说这部分。
待会儿再细说这部分。
00:19
Really messed with my head,
but I'll get into that later.
but I'll get into that later.
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00:24
I'll start with when
I was eight years old.
I was eight years old.
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先从我八岁时开始说起吧。
00:27
I took a wood box,
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我有一个木盒子，
在里面放了一张纸币，一支笔，和一只叉子，
并把盒子埋在了科罗拉多。
并把盒子埋在了科罗拉多。
00:29
and I buried a dollar bill, a pen
and a fork inside this box in Colorado.
and a fork inside this box in Colorado.
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00:35
And I thought some strange humanoids
or aliens in 500 years would find this box
or aliens in 500 years would find this box
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我觉得一些奇异的机械人
或外星人会在五百年后发现它，
或外星人会在五百年后发现它，
并以此来了解人类是
如何交流想法的，
如何交流想法的，
00:40
and learn about the way
our species exchanged ideas,
our species exchanged ideas,
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可能是我们怎样吃意大利面。
00:45
maybe how we ate our spaghetti.
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我真的不知道。
00:47
I really didn't know.
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00:49
Anyway, this is kind of funny,
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不管怎样，我觉得这还是挺有趣的，
因为三十年后的我，仍在制造盒子。
00:50
because here I am, 30 years later,
and I'm still making boxes.
and I'm still making boxes.
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00:56
Now, at some point I was in Hawaii --
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从前我在夏威夷呆过一段时间 ——
我喜欢远足，冲浪，
以及尝试所有奇怪的事情，
以及尝试所有奇怪的事情，
00:59
I like to hike and surf
and do all that weird stuff,
and do all that weird stuff,
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我给我妈做了一个拼贴画。
01:01
and I was making a collage for my ma.
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01:04
And I took a dictionary
and I ripped it up,
and I ripped it up,
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我拿来一本字典，把它撕碎，
01:06
and I made it into a sort
of Agnes Martin grid,
of Agnes Martin grid,
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然后弄成艾格尼斯·马丁
风格的那种格子，
风格的那种格子，
我倒了一些树脂上去，
然后一只蜜蜂被粘住了。
然后一只蜜蜂被粘住了。
01:09
and I poured resin all over it
and a bee got stuck.
and a bee got stuck.
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她本来就很怕蜜蜂而且对蜜蜂过敏，
01:11
Now, she's afraid of bees
and she's allergic to them,
and she's allergic to them,
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于是我往画板上倒了更多的树脂，
希望可以遮盖住那只蜜蜂。
希望可以遮盖住那只蜜蜂。
01:14
so I poured more resin on the canvas,
thinking I could hide it or something.
thinking I could hide it or something.
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然而事与愿违：
01:18
Instead, the opposite happened:
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我几乎算是放大了瑕疵，
01:20
It sort of created a magnification,
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就像放大镜一样，盖在字典的文字上。
01:22
like a magnifying glass,
on the dictionary text.
on the dictionary text.
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01:25
So what did I do? I built more boxes.
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然后呢？我做了更多的盒子。
01:27
This time, I started putting
electronics, frogs,
electronics, frogs,
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这一次，我开始放置
一些电子产品，青蛙，
一些电子产品，青蛙，
和在街上捡到的奇怪的瓶子——
任何东西我可以找到的东西 ——
任何东西我可以找到的东西 ——
01:31
strange bottles I'd find in the street --
anything I could find --
anything I could find --
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我的一生都不断地在寻找，
01:35
because I was always
finding things my whole life,
finding things my whole life,
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试着在事物之间建立联系，
讲述它们之间的故事。
讲述它们之间的故事。
01:37
and trying to make relationships
and tell stories between these objects.
and tell stories between these objects.
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01:41
So I started drawing around the objects,
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于是我开始以它们为主题去作画，
而我意识到：“天啊天啊，
我可以在空间中作画！
我可以在空间中作画！
01:44
and I realized: Holy moly,
I can draw in space!
I can draw in space!
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我可以画出不受限制的线，
01:47
I can make free-floating lines,
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就像那些在犯罪现场的尸体周围画的线。
01:49
like the way you would draw
around a dead body at a crime scene.
around a dead body at a crime scene.
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于是我把那些物件取出来，
01:52
So I took the objects out,
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为我的作品创造了一套分类学。
01:54
and I created my own taxonomy
of invented specimens.
of invented specimens.
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01:57
First, botanical --
which you can kind of get a sense of.
which you can kind of get a sense of.
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首先，植物类的——
这类你们应该有些了解。
这类你们应该有些了解。
02:01
Then I made some
weird insects and creatures.
weird insects and creatures.
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然后我开始弄了一些
奇怪的昆虫和生物。
奇怪的昆虫和生物。
02:05
It was really fun; I was just
drawing on the layers of resin.
drawing on the layers of resin.
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在一层又一层的树脂上作画，
真的非常好玩。
真的非常好玩。
而且这非常酷，
因为我开始可以办展览和各种活动，
因为我开始可以办展览和各种活动，
02:08
And it was cool, because I was actually
starting to have shows and stuff,
starting to have shows and stuff,
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赚到了一些钱，
可以带我的女友去吃大餐，
可以带我的女友去吃大餐，
02:12
I was making some money,
I could take my girlfriend for dinner,
I could take my girlfriend for dinner,
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比如去时时乐餐厅。
02:15
and like, go to Sizzler.
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它真是美味至极，亲们。
02:16
It was some good shit, man.
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（笑声）
02:18
(Laughter)
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一段时间之后，
我又开始用人体模型创作，
我又开始用人体模型创作，
02:19
At some point, I got up to the human form,
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在树脂内部，按照真实人体尺寸
绘制的作品。
绘制的作品。
02:23
life-size resin sculptures
with drawings of humans inside the layers.
with drawings of humans inside the layers.
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这其实挺赞的，但是有一点：
02:28
This was great, except for one thing:
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这简直不是人干的活儿。
02:30
I was going to die.
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02:32
I didn't know what to do,
because the resin was going to kill me.
because the resin was going to kill me.
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我不知道要怎么办，
那些树脂快要把我害死了。
那些树脂快要把我害死了。
我每晚睡觉时候都在想着它们。
02:35
And I went to bed every night
thinking about it.
thinking about it.
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然后我尝试改用玻璃。
02:37
So I tried using glass.
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我开始在一层层的玻璃上绘画，
02:40
I started drawing on the layers of glass,
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这就像在一扇扇的窗户上绘画，
02:42
almost like if you drew on a window,
then you put another window,
then you put another window,
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然后需要把所有窗户叠在一起，
02:45
and another window, and you had
all these windows together
all these windows together
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这样便形成了一个三维作品。
02:48
that made a three-dimensional composition.
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这还真的行得通，
于是我可以不再用树脂了。
于是我可以不再用树脂了。
02:50
And this really worked,
because I could stop using the resin.
because I could stop using the resin.
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02:53
So I did this for years,
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我持续做了许多年，
积累出了一件庞大的作品，
我称它们为“三联画”。
我称它们为“三联画”。
02:55
which culminated in a very large work,
which I call "The Triptych."
which I call "The Triptych."
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03:00
"The Triptych" was largely inspired
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“三联画”在很大程度上
是受到耶罗尼米斯·博斯
“人间乐园”的启发，
“人间乐园”的启发，
03:02
by Hieronymus Bosch's
"[The] Garden of Earthly Delights,"
"[The] Garden of Earthly Delights,"
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是一幅存放在
西班牙普拉多博物馆的油画。
西班牙普拉多博物馆的油画。
03:05
which is a painting
in the [Museo del] Prado in Spain.
in the [Museo del] Prado in Spain.
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你们知道这幅作品吗？
03:07
Do you guys know this painting?
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很好，那是一幅很酷的画作。
03:09
Good, it's a cool painting.
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人们说，它是一幅超前的作品。
03:10
It's kind of ahead of its time, they say.
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好，“三联画”，我会慢慢
跟你们解释这件作品。
跟你们解释这件作品。
03:12
So, "The Triptych."
I'll walk you through this piece.
I'll walk you through this piece.
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它重约10900多公斤。
03:15
It weighs 24,000 pounds.
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03:18
It's 18 feet long.
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长约5.5米。
它是双面的，所以总共是差不多11米。
03:20
It's double-sided,
so it's 36 feet of composition.
so it's 36 feet of composition.
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这听上去有点奇怪。
03:23
It's kind of weird.
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03:26
Well, that's the blood fountain.
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这里有个血喷泉。
（笑声）
03:29
(Laughter)
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左面你们会看到耶稣和蝗虫们。
03:31
To the left, you have
Jesus and the locusts.
Jesus and the locusts.
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03:34
There's a cave
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那里有一个洞穴，
那些有着动物头的怪物
穿梭于两个世界之间。
穿梭于两个世界之间。
03:35
where all these animal-headed creatures
travel between two worlds.
travel between two worlds.
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他们由具象的世界
03:38
They go from the representational world,
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回到这个它们所藏身的
错综复杂的下层世界。
错综复杂的下层世界。
03:40
to this analog-mesh underworld,
where they're hiding.
where they're hiding.
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这些有着动物头的生物
聚集在灯塔附近，
聚集在灯塔附近，
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This is where the animal-headed creatures
are by the lighthouse,
are by the lighthouse,
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准备在大海里集体自杀。
03:46
and they're all about to commit
mass suicide into the ocean.
mass suicide into the ocean.
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大海是由成千上万的元素组成。
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The ocean is made up
of thousands of elements.
of thousands of elements.
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那里有一只鸟神绑在一只战舰上。
03:52
This is a bird god
tied up to a battleship.
tied up to a battleship.
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（笑声）
03:55
(Laughter)
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比利·葛培理在大海里，
03:56
Billy Graham is in the ocean;
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油污里的海岸；瓦尔多；
本拉登的藏匿处 ——
本拉登的藏匿处 ——
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the Horizon from the oil spill;
Waldo; Osama Bin Laden's shelter --
Waldo; Osama Bin Laden's shelter --
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04:02
there's all kinds of weird stuff
that you can find
that you can find
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如果你们认真地观察那片大海的话，
就能找到各种奇怪事物。
04:04
if you look really hard, in the ocean.
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04:06
Anyway, this is a lady creature.
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另外，这是一个雌性生物。
04:09
She's coming out of the ocean,
and she's spitting oil into one hand
and she's spitting oil into one hand
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她从海洋里出来，一只手在泼着油污，
另一只手中飘出云朵。
04:12
and she has clouds
coming out of her other hand.
coming out of her other hand.
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她的手如天平一般，
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Her hands are like scales,
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有着神话中
对地球和宇宙平衡的表达。
对地球和宇宙平衡的表达。
04:16
and she has the mythological reference
of the Earth and cosmos in balance.
of the Earth and cosmos in balance.
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04:22
So that's one side of "The Triptych."
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这是“三联画”的一部分。
是叙述类画作。
04:23
It's a little narrative thing.
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这边她在向手心吐着什么。
04:25
That's her hand that she's spitting into.
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04:28
And then, when you go to the other side,
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然后，当你们从另一边观察，
她又像树干，像鸟的喙，
04:30
she has like a trunk, like a bird's beak,
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还会从那里吐出云来。
04:32
and she's spitting clouds
out of her trunk.
out of her trunk.
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Then she has an 18-foot-long serpent's
tail that connects "The Triptych."
tail that connects "The Triptych."
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她还有着一条5.5米的蛇尾，
来连接“三联画”。
来连接“三联画”。
04:38
Anyway, her tail catches on fire
from the back of the volcano.
from the back of the volcano.
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她的尾巴还在火山的背面着火了。
（笑声）
04:41
(Laughter)
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我不知道怎么会出现这种效果。
04:42
I don't know why that happened.
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（笑声）
04:44
(Laughter)
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这种事儿有时候确实会发生。
04:46
That happens, you know.
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04:48
Her tail terminates
in a cycloptic eyeball,
in a cycloptic eyeball,
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她的尾巴在一只独眼里终结，
由1986年的恐怖卡片组成的。
04:51
made out of 1986 terrorist cards.
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你们看见了么？
04:54
Have you guys seen those?
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它们是上世纪80年代的产物，
像是棒球卡那种东西。
像是棒球卡那种东西。
04:55
They were made in the 1980's,
they're like baseball cards of terrorists.
they're like baseball cards of terrorists.
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真的是走在时代的尖端。
04:59
Way ahead of their time.
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（笑声）
05:00
(Laughter)
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这引申到我最近的一个项目。
05:02
That will bring you to my latest project.
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我现在同时进行两个项目：
05:04
I'm in the middle of two projects:
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一个叫“心理地图”。
05:06
One's called "Psychogeographies."
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这是一个长达六年的项目，
去制造100个这样的人类。
去制造100个这样的人类。
05:08
It's about a six-year project
to make 100 of these humans.
to make 100 of these humans.
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每一个都是人类文化的一份存档，
05:11
Each one is an archive of our culture,
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由各种撕碎的传媒产品和物件拼凑，
05:13
through our ripped-up media and matter,
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05:15
whether it's encyclopedias
or dictionaries or magazines.
or dictionaries or magazines.
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可以是百科全书、字典或者是杂志。
每一样都可以被当做是一种存档，
以人体的轮廓呈现，
以人体的轮廓呈现，
05:18
But each one acts as a sort of an archive
in the shape of a human,
in the shape of a human,
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它们结队出行，每次20个，
4个或者12个。
4个或者12个。
05:22
and they travel in groups
of 20, 4, or 12 at a time.
of 20, 4, or 12 at a time.
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05:25
They're like cells --
they come together, they divide.
they come together, they divide.
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它们像是细胞一般——
一起出现，然后分裂。
一起出现，然后分裂。
05:28
And you kind of walk through them.
It's taking me years.
It's taking me years.
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你可以在它们之中走过。
这花费了我许多年的时间。
这花费了我许多年的时间。
每一个，基本上
是一个1360多公斤的显微镜片，
是一个1360多公斤的显微镜片，
05:31
Each one is basically
a 3,000-pound microscope slide
a 3,000-pound microscope slide
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里面封存着一个人。
05:35
with a human stuck inside.
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05:38
This one has a little cave in his chest.
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这个人的胸膛上
有一个小小的洞穴。
有一个小小的洞穴。
05:40
That's his head; there's the chest,
you can kind of see the beginning.
you can kind of see the beginning.
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这是他的头；那是他的胸膛，
你几乎可以看到起始点在哪里。
你几乎可以看到起始点在哪里。
接下来我会介绍其他的身体部分：
05:43
I'm going to go down the body for you:
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这是一个瀑布从他的胸膛喷涌而出，
05:46
There's a waterfall
coming out of his chest,
coming out of his chest,
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遮盖他的生殖器——或者不是生殖器，
什么都行，
什么都行，
05:50
covering his penis -- or not-penis,
or whatever it is,
or whatever it is,
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有点像是无性别的个体。
05:52
a kind of androgynous thing.
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I'll take you quickly through these works,
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我会快速地跟你们介绍一遍这些作品，
因为我没有太长时间来解释它们。
05:57
because I can't explain them for too long.
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你们可以大概看到这里面有很多层。
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There are the layers,
you can kind of see it.
you can kind of see it.
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That's a body getting split in half.
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这是一个身体在分裂成两半。
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This one has two heads,
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这个作品有两个头，
两个头在互相沟通着。
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and it's communicating
between the two heads.
between the two heads.
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You can see the pills coming out,
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在这个奇怪的造型中，你们可以看到
一些药片一样的东西
从一个头到另一个头。
从一个头到另一个头。
06:12
going into one head
from this weird statue.
from this weird statue.
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在胸膛中间
有一个小小的树林。
有一个小小的树林。
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There's a little forest scene
inside the chest cavity.
inside the chest cavity.
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能看到吧？
06:17
Can you see that?
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总之，这次的演讲都是
关于这些盒子，
关于这些盒子，
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Anyway, this talk's all about these boxes,
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就像我们生活在其中的盒子。
06:20
like the boxes we're in.
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This box we're in,
the solar system is a box.
the solar system is a box.
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太阳系就是我们生活在其中的盒子。
06:25
This brings you to my latest box.
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这引申到我最近的盒子作品。
06:28
It's a brick box.
It's called Pioneer Works.
It's called Pioneer Works.
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这是一个砖盒。
它叫做“先驱者之作”。
它叫做“先驱者之作”。
（欢呼）
06:30
(Cheers)
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在这个盒子里，有一个物理学家，
06:32
Inside of this box is a physicist,
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一个脑神经科学家，
一个画家，一个音乐家，
一个画家，一个音乐家，
06:36
a neuroscientist, a painter, a musician,
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一个作家，一个广播站，
一间博物馆，一所学校，
一间博物馆，一所学校，
06:39
a writer, a radio station,
a museum, a school,
a museum, a school,
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一间出版公司
向全世界宣传我们的作品；
向全世界宣传我们的作品；
06:45
a publishing arm to disseminate all
the content we make there into the world;
the content we make there into the world;
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一个花园。
06:50
a garden.
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06:52
We shake this box up,
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我们摇动这个盒子，
而这些人就像粒子一样
互相撞击对方。
互相撞击对方。
06:53
and all these people kind of start
hitting each other like particles.
hitting each other like particles.
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而我想，这就是
你可以改变世界的方式。
你可以改变世界的方式。
06:56
And I think that's the way
you change the world.
you change the world.
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你重新定义你的内在，
和你生活的那个盒子。
和你生活的那个盒子。
06:59
You redefine your insides
and the box that you're living in.
and the box that you're living in.
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然后所有人共同意识到，
我们都生活在这里，
我们都生活在这里，
07:03
And you come together to realize
that we're all in this together,
that we're all in this together,
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我们之间的千差万别不过是虚幻——
07:06
that this delusion of difference --
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有关国家，边界，
宗教——全部都不存在。
宗教——全部都不存在。
07:08
this idea of countries, of borders,
of religion -- doesn't work.
of religion -- doesn't work.
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07:13
We're all really made up
of the same stuff, in the same box.
of the same stuff, in the same box.
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我们在同一个盒子中，
由同样的物质构成。
由同样的物质构成。
而如果我们不开始试着
去互换一些美好的事物，
去互换一些美好的事物，
07:18
And if we don't start
exchanging that stuff sweetly and nicely,
exchanging that stuff sweetly and nicely,
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我们其实很快就会灭亡。
07:22
we're all going to die real soon.
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07:25
Thank you very much.
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非常感谢大家。
07:27
(Applause)
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Dustin Yellin - SculptorAcclaimed for his monumental “sculptural paintings,” Dustin Yellin now nurtures voices in the art community with Pioneer Works, his mammoth Brooklyn art center.
Why you should listen
Dustin Yellin’s mesmerizing glass sculptures explode collage into three dimensional forms, and have won him accolades from all over the art world. From early works of layered resin, Yellin’s sculptures increased in size (and weight), culminating in the 12-ton, three-paneled The Triptych.
But Yellin’s most ambitious project may be Pioneer Works, a colossal, 27,000-square-foot artist’s complex and foundation in Red Hook, Brooklyn. With its residencies, workshops and on-site science lab, Pioneer Works cultivates cross-disciplinary experimentation regardless of profit potential.
Dustin Yellin | Speaker | TED.com