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Dustin Yellin: A journey through the mind of an artist
達斯汀 · 耶林: 走入藝術家嘅思想世界
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達斯汀 · 耶林擅長以攝人心魄嘅藝術作品，表現複雜且具神話風格嘅故事。佢呢種風格係點樣發展出嚟嘅呢？係呢個演講入面，佢會同觀眾分享佢嘅思想世界。由八歲開始，佢就已經以一套奇特嘅思考模式，去睇呢個世界。佢最新嘅兩件作品，就係由呢套獨特嘅世界觀所發展出嚟。
Dustin Yellin - Sculptor
Acclaimed for his monumental “sculptural paintings,” Dustin Yellin now nurtures voices in the art community with Pioneer Works, his mammoth Brooklyn art center. Full bio
Acclaimed for his monumental “sculptural paintings,” Dustin Yellin now nurtures voices in the art community with Pioneer Works, his mammoth Brooklyn art center. Full bio
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我細個喺美國山脈地區
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I was raised by lesbians in the mountains,
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由女同性戀者湊大
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and I sort of came like a forest gnome
to New York City a while back.
to New York City a while back.
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我最初嚟到紐約嗰陣
我就好似一個森林野人
00:18
(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
嗰時頭腦超混亂
00:19
Really messed with my head,
but I'll get into that later.
but I'll get into that later.
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我一陣番轉頭再講
00:24
I'll start with when
I was eight years old.
I was eight years old.
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我會由我八歲嗰時講起
00:27
I took a wood box,
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我喺科羅拉多嗰陣拎咗個木盒
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and I buried a dollar bill, a pen
and a fork inside this box in Colorado.
and a fork inside this box in Colorado.
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放咗一蚊美金、一枝筆
同一隻叉喺個盒入面
同一隻叉喺個盒入面
我諗 500 年後會有某種人猿類動物
00:35
And I thought some strange humanoids
or aliens in 500 years would find this box
or aliens in 500 years would find this box
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或者外星人發現呢個盒
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and learn about the way
our species exchanged ideas,
our species exchanged ideas,
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從中知道我哋呢個物種點樣交換諗法
00:45
maybe how we ate our spaghetti.
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或者知道我哋點樣食意粉
其實我都唔係好清楚自己做乜
00:47
I really didn't know.
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總言之，呢個諗法都幾得意
00:49
Anyway, this is kind of funny,
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因為三十年後嘅我仲整緊呢嗰盒
00:50
because here I am, 30 years later,
and I'm still making boxes.
and I'm still making boxes.
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00:56
Now, at some point I was in Hawaii --
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我之前喺夏威夷嘅時候
鍾意行山、滑浪等等奇怪嘅活動
00:59
I like to hike and surf
and do all that weird stuff,
and do all that weird stuff,
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我嗰時仲砌緊一幅嘢俾我阿媽
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and I was making a collage for my ma.
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我撕爛咗本字典
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And I took a dictionary
and I ripped it up,
and I ripped it up,
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將啲碎紙砌到好似
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and I made it into a sort
of Agnes Martin grid,
of Agnes Martin grid,
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艾格尼絲 . 馬丁嘅網格噉
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and I poured resin all over it
and a bee got stuck.
and a bee got stuck.
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然後喺上面倒滿樹脂
點知有隻蜜蜂痴住咗喺上面
01:11
Now, she's afraid of bees
and she's allergic to them,
and she's allergic to them,
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因為我媽咪怕蜜蜂，而且會敏感
所以我唯有倒多啲樹脂落去
01:14
so I poured more resin on the canvas,
thinking I could hide it or something.
thinking I could hide it or something.
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希望可以遮住隻蜜蜂
01:18
Instead, the opposite happened:
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點知，事與願違
啲樹脂就好似放大鏡噉
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It sort of created a magnification,
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將上面嘅野，包括蜜蜂，都放大咗
01:22
like a magnifying glass,
on the dictionary text.
on the dictionary text.
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噉我點收科？
01:25
So what did I do? I built more boxes.
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於是就整多幾個盒
01:27
This time, I started putting
electronics, frogs,
electronics, frogs,
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今次，我將電子零件
青蛙、街上執番嚟嘅樽
青蛙、街上執番嚟嘅樽
01:31
strange bottles I'd find in the street --
anything I could find --
anything I could find --
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任何我搵到嘅嘢擺入去
01:35
because I was always
finding things my whole life,
finding things my whole life,
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因為我嘅人生一直都喺度尋尋覓覓
嘗試令唔同嘅物件之間有一個關係
01:37
and trying to make relationships
and tell stories between these objects.
and tell stories between these objects.
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用呢啲物件去串連一個故仔
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So I started drawing around the objects,
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於是我開始對住啲嘢畫呀畫
然後我發現
01:44
and I realized: Holy moly,
I can draw in space!
I can draw in space!
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咦喂！原來我可以凌空畫！
我可以畫出浮喺空中嘅線條
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I can make free-floating lines,
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就好似喺案發現場圍住個屍體畫線噉
01:49
like the way you would draw
around a dead body at a crime scene.
around a dead body at a crime scene.
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於是我拎件嘢出嚟
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So I took the objects out,
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畫咗啲我想像出嚟嘅嘢
01:54
and I created my own taxonomy
of invented specimens.
of invented specimens.
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首先係植物
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First, botanical --
which you can kind of get a sense of.
which you can kind of get a sense of.
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你應該睇得出似啲乜
02:01
Then I made some
weird insects and creatures.
weird insects and creatures.
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然後又畫咗啲奇怪嘅昆蟲同生物
02:05
It was really fun; I was just
drawing on the layers of resin.
drawing on the layers of resin.
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喺一層層嘅樹脂上面畫畫真係好好玩
而且仲好正添！
02:08
And it was cool, because I was actually
starting to have shows and stuff,
starting to have shows and stuff,
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因為我開始有表演接
我開始有收入
02:12
I was making some money,
I could take my girlfriend for dinner,
I could take my girlfriend for dinner,
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可以帶女朋友出街食晚飯
好似去 Sizzler 噉
02:15
and like, go to Sizzler.
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正到要嗌出嚟啦！
02:16
It was some good shit, man.
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（笑聲）
02:18
(Laughter)
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畫畫下，我開始畫咗個人形
02:19
At some point, I got up to the human form,
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畫咗個真人咁高嘅樹脂雕塑
02:23
life-size resin sculptures
with drawings of humans inside the layers.
with drawings of humans inside the layers.
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裏邊仲有仔細嘅紋路
02:28
This was great, except for one thing:
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呢樣嘢係好玩，但係有一個問題
我會就快死
02:30
I was going to die.
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我唔知點算好，因為樹脂會殺死我
02:32
I didn't know what to do,
because the resin was going to kill me.
because the resin was going to kill me.
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02:35
And I went to bed every night
thinking about it.
thinking about it.
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晚晚我瞓覺之前都喺度諗點樣先好
02:37
So I tried using glass.
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於是我試下用玻璃
喺每一層玻璃上面畫畫
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I started drawing on the layers of glass,
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就好似你喺一塊窗上面畫完
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almost like if you drew on a window,
then you put another window,
then you put another window,
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再放另一塊窗喺上面繼續畫
02:45
and another window, and you had
all these windows together
all these windows together
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然後再放另一塊，層層疊咁
形成一個立體嘅作品
02:48
that made a three-dimensional composition.
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於是今次真係得咗
02:50
And this really worked,
because I could stop using the resin.
because I could stop using the resin.
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因為我可以唔駛再用樹脂
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So I did this for years,
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就係噉我畫窗玻璃畫咗幾年
02:55
which culminated in a very large work,
which I call "The Triptych."
which I call "The Triptych."
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加加埋埋成為咗一件大形作品
我叫佢做「三聯畫」
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"The Triptych" was largely inspired
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三聯畫靈感主要嚟自
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by Hieronymus Bosch's
"[The] Garden of Earthly Delights,"
"[The] Garden of Earthly Delights,"
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耶羅尼米斯 · 博斯嘅《人間樂園》
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which is a painting
in the [Museo del] Prado in Spain.
in the [Museo del] Prado in Spain.
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呢幅畫而家掛喺西班牙嘅
普拉多博物館入面
普拉多博物館入面
你哋知唔知我講緊邊幅畫？
03:07
Do you guys know this painting?
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好畫。呢幅畫好嘢嚟！
03:09
Good, it's a cool painting.
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啲人話嗰時嚟講好新潮架！
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It's kind of ahead of its time, they say.
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而家等我同你哋講解下
我呢個三聯畫作品
我呢個三聯畫作品
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So, "The Triptych."
I'll walk you through this piece.
I'll walk you through this piece.
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03:15
It weighs 24,000 pounds.
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佢有 24,000 磅重、18 呎長
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It's 18 feet long.
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It's double-sided,
so it's 36 feet of composition.
so it's 36 feet of composition.
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雙面嘅，所以其實係 36 呎長
有啲騎呢嘅
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It's kind of weird.
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呢個係血噴泉
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Well, that's the blood fountain.
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（笑聲）
03:29
(Laughter)
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左邊可以見到耶穌同蝗蟲
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To the left, you have
Jesus and the locusts.
Jesus and the locusts.
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03:34
There's a cave
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呢度有個山窿
俾呢啲個頭係動物頭嘅生物
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where all these animal-headed creatures
travel between two worlds.
travel between two worlds.
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穿梭於兩個世界之間
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They go from the representational world,
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佢哋會由表象世界
走到一個儀錶式嘅網狀地下世界匿埋
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to this analog-mesh underworld,
where they're hiding.
where they're hiding.
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03:43
This is where the animal-headed creatures
are by the lighthouse,
are by the lighthouse,
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呢啲生物係喺燈塔隔離
準備大規模跳海自殺
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and they're all about to commit
mass suicide into the ocean.
mass suicide into the ocean.
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個海有過千種唔同嘅完素
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The ocean is made up
of thousands of elements.
of thousands of elements.
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呢隻鳥神被綁喺戰船上面
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This is a bird god
tied up to a battleship.
tied up to a battleship.
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（笑聲）
03:55
(Laughter)
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Billy Graham is in the ocean;
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葛培理喺個海度
地平線嗰度係一達油污
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the Horizon from the oil spill;
Waldo; Osama Bin Laden's shelter --
Waldo; Osama Bin Laden's shelter --
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仲有威利、仲有拉登嘅棲身之所
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there's all kinds of weird stuff
that you can find
that you can find
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你肯俾心機去睇個海嘅話
你可以搵到好多騎呢嘅嘢
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if you look really hard, in the ocean.
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Anyway, this is a lady creature.
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呢個係一隻雌性物物
佢由個海度出嚟
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She's coming out of the ocean,
and she's spitting oil into one hand
and she's spitting oil into one hand
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佢吐出啲油落一隻手度
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and she has clouds
coming out of her other hand.
coming out of her other hand.
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另一隻手就有啲雲走出嚟
佢對手就好似天平噉
04:15
Her hands are like scales,
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就好似神話描述噉平衡住地球同宇宙
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and she has the mythological reference
of the Earth and cosmos in balance.
of the Earth and cosmos in balance.
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04:22
So that's one side of "The Triptych."
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所以幅畫嘅呢一面
係比較有故事性
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It's a little narrative thing.
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That's her hand that she's spitting into.
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佢吐油落隻手度
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And then, when you go to the other side,
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而當你去睇幅畫嘅另一面
佢有一個好似象鼻或者鳥咀噉嘅嘢
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she has like a trunk, like a bird's beak,
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會吐出一舊舊雲
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and she's spitting clouds
out of her trunk.
out of her trunk.
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04:34
Then she has an 18-foot-long serpent's
tail that connects "The Triptych."
tail that connects "The Triptych."
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佢仲有一條 18 尺長嘅蛇尾連住幅畫
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Anyway, her tail catches on fire
from the back of the volcano.
from the back of the volcano.
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但佢條尾俾火山燒著咗
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(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
我都唔係好知點解會係噉
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I don't know why that happened.
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04:44
(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
04:46
That happens, you know.
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但你知啦，都發生咗
佢條尾最後有一個旋風形嘅眼球
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Her tail terminates
in a cycloptic eyeball,
in a cycloptic eyeball,
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係由 1986 年恐怖分子遊戲卡所整成
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made out of 1986 terrorist cards.
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你哋有冇見過？
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Have you guys seen those?
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八十年代嘅嘢嚟
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They were made in the 1980's,
they're like baseball cards of terrorists.
they're like baseball cards of terrorists.
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就好似恐怖份子嘅棒球明星卡噉
佢哋嗰時係新潮
04:59
Way ahead of their time.
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（笑聲）
05:00
(Laughter)
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而家帶你哋睇下我最新嘅作品
05:02
That will bring you to my latest project.
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我而家其實做緊兩個計劃
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I'm in the middle of two projects:
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一個叫做「心靈地圖」
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One's called "Psychogeographies."
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呢個計劃大約為期六年
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It's about a six-year project
to make 100 of these humans.
to make 100 of these humans.
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我要整 100 個噉樣嘅人形
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Each one is an archive of our culture,
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每個人形都紀錄住我哋嘅文化
人形由唔同出版刊物嘅紙碎砌成
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through our ripped-up media and matter,
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whether it's encyclopedias
or dictionaries or magazines.
or dictionaries or magazines.
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可以係百科全書、字典或者雜誌
每一件作品都砌成人形
去紀錄我哋嘅世界
去紀錄我哋嘅世界
05:18
But each one acts as a sort of an archive
in the shape of a human,
in the shape of a human,
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啲作品係一組組噉去郁
05:22
and they travel in groups
of 20, 4, or 12 at a time.
of 20, 4, or 12 at a time.
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有啲 20 個一組，亦有 4 個
或者 12 個一組
或者 12 個一組
05:25
They're like cells --
they come together, they divide.
they come together, they divide.
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佢哋就好似細胞咁
會黐埋一齊，亦會分開
當你就噉行過喺佢哋
05:28
And you kind of walk through them.
It's taking me years.
It's taking me years.
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其實我就花用咗好多年時間
05:31
Each one is basically
a 3,000-pound microscope slide
a 3,000-pound microscope slide
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每一個基本上係
一個重 3,000 磅嘅顯微鏡片
一個重 3,000 磅嘅顯微鏡片
裏面有一個人係度
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with a human stuck inside.
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This one has a little cave in his chest.
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呢個人心口度有一個窿
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That's his head; there's the chest,
you can kind of see the beginning.
you can kind of see the beginning.
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呢個係佢個頭，呢個係個胸
呢個就係開始時候你可以睇到嘅樣
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I'm going to go down the body for you:
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而家等我俾你哋睇下佢身體落啲嘅地方
呢度有一個瀑布由佢心口流出嚟
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There's a waterfall
coming out of his chest,
coming out of his chest,
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遮住佢下體
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covering his penis -- or not-penis,
or whatever it is,
or whatever it is,
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或者唔係下體，或者是旦一度
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a kind of androgynous thing.
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因為佢係雌雄同體
等我好快噉介紹一下其他作品
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I'll take you quickly through these works,
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因為我唔可以花太多時間解釋
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because I can't explain them for too long.
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06:00
There are the layers,
you can kind of see it.
you can kind of see it.
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你可以睇得出佢哋都係一層層噉嘅
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That's a body getting split in half.
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呢個人形嘅身體斷開兩截
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This one has two heads,
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呢個人有兩個頭
兩個頭喺度溝通緊
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and it's communicating
between the two heads.
between the two heads.
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06:10
You can see the pills coming out,
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你可以睇到有啲丸仔飛出嚟
飛到呢個奇怪人形嘅其中一個頭度
06:12
going into one head
from this weird statue.
from this weird statue.
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佢心口嗰度有個樹林
06:14
There's a little forest scene
inside the chest cavity.
inside the chest cavity.
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睇唔睇到呀？
06:17
Can you see that?
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呢個演講嘅主題就係呢啲盒
06:18
Anyway, this talk's all about these boxes,
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就好似我哋身處嘅盒一樣
06:20
like the boxes we're in.
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06:22
This box we're in,
the solar system is a box.
the solar system is a box.
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我哋身處喺太陽系其實都好似一個盒
等我介紹我最後一個盒
06:25
This brings you to my latest box.
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呢個盒用磚砌成
06:28
It's a brick box.
It's called Pioneer Works.
It's called Pioneer Works.
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叫做「先鋒者，做緊嘢」
06:30
(Cheers)
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（歡呼聲）
呢個盒入面有一名物理學家
06:32
Inside of this box is a physicist,
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一名神經學家、一名畫家、一名音樂家
06:36
a neuroscientist, a painter, a musician,
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一名作家、一間電台、一座博物館
06:39
a writer, a radio station,
a museum, a school,
a museum, a school,
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一間學校，同埋一間出版社
06:45
a publishing arm to disseminate all
the content we make there into the world;
the content we make there into the world;
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將我哋喺度做嘅嘢話俾盒外面嘅世界知
裏面仲有個花園
06:50
a garden.
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我哋搖下個盒
06:52
We shake this box up,
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and all these people kind of start
hitting each other like particles.
hitting each other like particles.
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將入面嘅人好似粒子咁撞嚟撞去
我諗呢個就係改變世界嘅方法
06:56
And I think that's the way
you change the world.
you change the world.
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重新定義自己同埋
我哋係裏面生活梗嘅呢個盒
我哋係裏面生活梗嘅呢個盒
06:59
You redefine your insides
and the box that you're living in.
and the box that you're living in.
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就會發現同明白到
07:03
And you come together to realize
that we're all in this together,
that we're all in this together,
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我哋之間嘅差異只不過係錯誤嘅睇法
07:06
that this delusion of difference --
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國家、國界、宗教都係冇意義嘅
07:08
this idea of countries, of borders,
of religion -- doesn't work.
of religion -- doesn't work.
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我哋其實都係喺同一個盒入面
由同一種物質所造成
由同一種物質所造成
07:13
We're all really made up
of the same stuff, in the same box.
of the same stuff, in the same box.
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如果我哋唔肯好好聲氣噉
去互相交換我哋所擁有嘅嘢
去互相交換我哋所擁有嘅嘢
07:18
And if we don't start
exchanging that stuff sweetly and nicely,
exchanging that stuff sweetly and nicely,
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我哋好快就會一齊死架嘞！
07:22
we're all going to die real soon.
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07:25
Thank you very much.
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好多謝大家！
（全場鼓掌）
07:27
(Applause)
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Dustin Yellin - SculptorAcclaimed for his monumental “sculptural paintings,” Dustin Yellin now nurtures voices in the art community with Pioneer Works, his mammoth Brooklyn art center.
Why you should listen
Dustin Yellin’s mesmerizing glass sculptures explode collage into three dimensional forms, and have won him accolades from all over the art world. From early works of layered resin, Yellin’s sculptures increased in size (and weight), culminating in the 12-ton, three-paneled The Triptych.
But Yellin’s most ambitious project may be Pioneer Works, a colossal, 27,000-square-foot artist’s complex and foundation in Red Hook, Brooklyn. With its residencies, workshops and on-site science lab, Pioneer Works cultivates cross-disciplinary experimentation regardless of profit potential.
Dustin Yellin | Speaker | TED.com