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Dustin Yellin: A journey through the mind of an artist
達斯汀．耶林: 藝術家的心靈之旅
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達斯汀．耶林創作迷人的藝術作品，他的作品描述了以神話為靈感的複雜故事。他是如何發展出自己的風格？在這個輕鬆的演講當中，他分享了自己從八歲開始的藝術家旅程，和他與眾不同的思維與觀察方式。一路走來，帶他來到最新的一個（或兩個）大創作。
Dustin Yellin - Sculptor
Acclaimed for his monumental “sculptural paintings,” Dustin Yellin now nurtures voices in the art community with Pioneer Works, his mammoth Brooklyn art center. Full bio
Acclaimed for his monumental “sculptural paintings,” Dustin Yellin now nurtures voices in the art community with Pioneer Works, his mammoth Brooklyn art center. Full bio
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00:12
I was raised by lesbians in the mountains,
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我是在山上，被女同性戀撫養長大的，
00:14
and I sort of came like a forest gnome
to New York City a while back.
to New York City a while back.
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而我就像來自森林的精靈一般，
來到紐約市辦點事再回去。
來到紐約市辦點事再回去。
00:18
(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
00:19
Really messed with my head,
but I'll get into that later.
but I'll get into that later.
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紐約把我腦子搞得很複雜，
稍後我再說明。
稍後我再說明。
我從我八歲開始講起。
00:24
I'll start with when
I was eight years old.
I was eight years old.
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我拿了一個木盒，
00:27
I took a wood box,
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00:29
and I buried a dollar bill, a pen
and a fork inside this box in Colorado.
and a fork inside this box in Colorado.
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把一張紙鈔、一隻筆和一支叉子
放進盒中後埋在科羅拉多洲。
放進盒中後埋在科羅拉多洲。
00:35
And I thought some strange humanoids
or aliens in 500 years would find this box
or aliens in 500 years would find this box
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我在想，一些奇怪的生物或
外星人會在五百年後找到這盒子，
外星人會在五百年後找到這盒子，
並了解我們人類是如何交換想法，
00:40
and learn about the way
our species exchanged ideas,
our species exchanged ideas,
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可能是我們吃義大利麵的方式等等，
00:45
maybe how we ate our spaghetti.
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00:47
I really didn't know.
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我真的不知道。
不管怎樣，這還是挺有趣的。
00:49
Anyway, this is kind of funny,
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because here I am, 30 years later,
and I'm still making boxes.
and I'm still making boxes.
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因為三十年後我來到這演說，
且我仍然在製造盒子。
且我仍然在製造盒子。
在不久前，我在夏威夷。
00:56
Now, at some point I was in Hawaii --
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00:59
I like to hike and surf
and do all that weird stuff,
and do all that weird stuff,
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我喜歡健行和衝浪
和嘗試各種奇怪的事情，
和嘗試各種奇怪的事情，
我給我媽做了一個拼貼畫。
01:01
and I was making a collage for my ma.
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我拿起了一本字典，然後把它撕了。
01:04
And I took a dictionary
and I ripped it up,
and I ripped it up,
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01:06
and I made it into a sort
of Agnes Martin grid,
of Agnes Martin grid,
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我將它弄成艾格尼斯．馬丁格子般，
01:09
and I poured resin all over it
and a bee got stuck.
and a bee got stuck.
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倒入樹脂，一隻蜜蜂被困住了。
01:11
Now, she's afraid of bees
and she's allergic to them,
and she's allergic to them,
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我媽很怕蜜蜂且對牠們過敏，
01:14
so I poured more resin on the canvas,
thinking I could hide it or something.
thinking I could hide it or something.
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於是我往畫板上倒了更多的樹脂，
希望可以遮蓋那隻蜜蜂什麼的。
希望可以遮蓋那隻蜜蜂什麼的。
然而，卻發生相反的事：
01:18
Instead, the opposite happened:
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01:20
It sort of created a magnification,
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像是增加了一種放大效果，
01:22
like a magnifying glass,
on the dictionary text.
on the dictionary text.
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就像用放大鏡來看字典裡的文字。
01:25
So what did I do? I built more boxes.
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所以接下來我幹什麼了？
我做了更多的盒子。
我做了更多的盒子。
01:27
This time, I started putting
electronics, frogs,
electronics, frogs,
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這次，我開始放電子產品、青蛙，
01:31
strange bottles I'd find in the street --
anything I could find --
anything I could find --
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我在街上找奇特的瓶子，
任何我可以找到的東西，
任何我可以找到的東西，
因為我終其一生在尋找東西，
01:35
because I was always
finding things my whole life,
finding things my whole life,
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01:37
and trying to make relationships
and tell stories between these objects.
and tell stories between these objects.
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和嘗試建立不同的關係，
並述說這些事物之間的故事。
並述說這些事物之間的故事。
所以我開始畫周圍的事物，
01:41
So I started drawing around the objects,
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01:44
and I realized: Holy moly,
I can draw in space!
I can draw in space!
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而我意識到：天啊，
我可以在空間裡作畫！
我可以在空間裡作畫！
我可以畫一些天馬行空的線條，
01:47
I can make free-floating lines,
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01:49
like the way you would draw
around a dead body at a crime scene.
around a dead body at a crime scene.
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就像那些在犯罪現場的
屍體附近畫的線。
屍體附近畫的線。
所以我將物件取出，
01:52
So I took the objects out,
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01:54
and I created my own taxonomy
of invented specimens.
of invented specimens.
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我創造自己的一套分類法。
首先是植物類，
你們應該可以了解，
你們應該可以了解，
01:57
First, botanical --
which you can kind of get a sense of.
which you can kind of get a sense of.
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然後我開始弄了一些
奇怪的昆蟲和生物。
奇怪的昆蟲和生物。
02:01
Then I made some
weird insects and creatures.
weird insects and creatures.
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很有趣，我只是在多層的樹脂上作畫。
02:05
It was really fun; I was just
drawing on the layers of resin.
drawing on the layers of resin.
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02:08
And it was cool, because I was actually
starting to have shows and stuff,
starting to have shows and stuff,
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這超酷的，因為我開始展覽我的東西，
我開始賺錢，我可以帶女友去吃大餐，
02:12
I was making some money,
I could take my girlfriend for dinner,
I could take my girlfriend for dinner,
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像是去時時樂用餐等等。
02:15
and like, go to Sizzler.
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02:16
It was some good shit, man.
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這超爽的，你懂吧？
02:18
(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
02:19
At some point, I got up to the human form,
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從某個時候開始，我開始做人體模型，
有人體繪畫的真人大小樹脂雕塑。
02:23
life-size resin sculptures
with drawings of humans inside the layers.
with drawings of humans inside the layers.
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這很棒，但有件事例外：
02:28
This was great, except for one thing:
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我快要掛掉了。
02:30
I was going to die.
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02:32
I didn't know what to do,
because the resin was going to kill me.
because the resin was going to kill me.
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我不知道該怎麼辦，
因為那些樹脂快要把我毒死了。
因為那些樹脂快要把我毒死了。
02:35
And I went to bed every night
thinking about it.
thinking about it.
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我每晚睡前都在想這件事。
02:37
So I tried using glass.
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於是我嘗試用玻璃。
02:40
I started drawing on the layers of glass,
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我開始在玻璃上作畫，
幾乎像是在窗戶上畫畫，
然後再疊上另一面窗戶，
然後再疊上另一面窗戶，
02:42
almost like if you drew on a window,
then you put another window,
then you put another window,
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02:45
and another window, and you had
all these windows together
all these windows together
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再一面窗戶，
然後你把所有窗子都放在一起，
然後你把所有窗子都放在一起，
形成一個3D立體空間的組合。
02:48
that made a three-dimensional composition.
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02:50
And this really worked,
because I could stop using the resin.
because I could stop using the resin.
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這真的行得通，
因為我可以不再使用樹脂。
因為我可以不再使用樹脂。
於是我持續做了許多年，
02:53
So I did this for years,
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我累積了許多作品，
我稱之為「三聯畫」。
我稱之為「三聯畫」。
02:55
which culminated in a very large work,
which I call "The Triptych."
which I call "The Triptych."
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「三聯畫」有很大的程度受到
03:00
"The Triptych" was largely inspired
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03:02
by Hieronymus Bosch's
"[The] Garden of Earthly Delights,"
"[The] Garden of Earthly Delights,"
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耶羅尼米斯．博斯《人間地獄》的啟發，
它是一幅存放在西班牙
普拉多博物館的油畫。
普拉多博物館的油畫。
03:05
which is a painting
in the [Museo del] Prado in Spain.
in the [Museo del] Prado in Spain.
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你們知道這幅作品嗎？
03:07
Do you guys know this painting?
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很好，那是一幅不錯的作品。
03:09
Good, it's a cool painting.
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03:10
It's kind of ahead of its time, they say.
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有些人會說，它是走在時代的尖端。
03:12
So, "The Triptych."
I'll walk you through this piece.
I'll walk you through this piece.
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我簡單地帶你們看看
這件「三聯畫」作品。
這件「三聯畫」作品。
它重達 24,000 磅，
03:15
It weighs 24,000 pounds.
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長 18 英尺，
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It's 18 feet long.
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03:20
It's double-sided,
so it's 36 feet of composition.
so it's 36 feet of composition.
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它是雙面的，所以總共是 36 英尺。
03:23
It's kind of weird.
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這有點奇怪。
是的，那是一個血的噴泉。
03:26
Well, that's the blood fountain.
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03:29
(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
03:31
To the left, you have
Jesus and the locusts.
Jesus and the locusts.
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左邊你會看到耶穌和蝗蟲。
那裡有一個洞穴，
03:34
There's a cave
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where all these animal-headed creatures
travel between two worlds.
travel between two worlds.
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那些有著動物頭的生物
穿梭於兩個世界之間。
穿梭於兩個世界之間。
牠們從具象的世界，
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They go from the representational world,
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to this analog-mesh underworld,
where they're hiding.
where they're hiding.
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穿越到躲藏的模擬地底世界。
03:43
This is where the animal-headed creatures
are by the lighthouse,
are by the lighthouse,
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這就是為什麼這些有動物頭的
生物會在燈塔附近，
生物會在燈塔附近，
03:46
and they're all about to commit
mass suicide into the ocean.
mass suicide into the ocean.
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而牠們像是要在大海裡搞集體自殺。
03:49
The ocean is made up
of thousands of elements.
of thousands of elements.
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大海是由成千上萬的元素組成。
這是被綁在戰艦上的「鳥神」。
03:52
This is a bird god
tied up to a battleship.
tied up to a battleship.
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03:55
(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
葛培理牧師在這大海裡，
03:56
Billy Graham is in the ocean;
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the Horizon from the oil spill;
Waldo; Osama Bin Laden's shelter --
Waldo; Osama Bin Laden's shelter --
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漏油事件的地平線、瓦多、
賓拉登的藏匿處等。
賓拉登的藏匿處等。
如果你認真看大海裡的東西，
04:02
there's all kinds of weird stuff
that you can find
that you can find
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就能找到各種奇怪的事物。
04:04
if you look really hard, in the ocean.
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好的，這是一個女性的生物。
04:06
Anyway, this is a lady creature.
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04:09
She's coming out of the ocean,
and she's spitting oil into one hand
and she's spitting oil into one hand
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她從海洋裡出來，
而她正在往一隻手裡吐油，
而她正在往一隻手裡吐油，
她的另一隻手有雲朵跑出來，
04:12
and she has clouds
coming out of her other hand.
coming out of her other hand.
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她的手就像天秤一樣，
04:15
Her hands are like scales,
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and she has the mythological reference
of the Earth and cosmos in balance.
of the Earth and cosmos in balance.
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而她有地球和宇宙之間
平衡的神秘關聯性。
平衡的神秘關聯性。
這是「三聯畫」的其中一面，
04:22
So that's one side of "The Triptych."
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有點像是在敘述事情。
04:23
It's a little narrative thing.
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That's her hand that she's spitting into.
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這是她的手，她正在吐東西到上面。
然後，當你到另一面時，
04:28
And then, when you go to the other side,
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she has like a trunk, like a bird's beak,
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她有著像鳥嘴一樣的東西，
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and she's spitting clouds
out of her trunk.
out of her trunk.
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而她從尖嘴吐出雲來。
04:34
Then she has an 18-foot-long serpent's
tail that connects "The Triptych."
tail that connects "The Triptych."
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然後她有著一個18英尺的蛇尾，
來連接「三聯畫」。
來連接「三聯畫」。
總之，她的尾巴在火山的背面著火了。
04:38
Anyway, her tail catches on fire
from the back of the volcano.
from the back of the volcano.
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04:41
(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
04:42
I don't know why that happened.
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我不知道為什麼會發生這種事。
04:44
(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
04:46
That happens, you know.
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但就是會發生的。
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Her tail terminates
in a cycloptic eyeball,
in a cycloptic eyeball,
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她的尾巴在一隻眼珠中結束，
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made out of 1986 terrorist cards.
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由1986年的「恐怖份子卡」組成的。
你們有看過嗎？
04:54
Have you guys seen those?
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They were made in the 1980's,
they're like baseball cards of terrorists.
they're like baseball cards of terrorists.
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他們是在1980年代產物，
像是恐怖分子版的棒球卡。
像是恐怖分子版的棒球卡。
他們還真的是走在時代的尖端啊。
04:59
Way ahead of their time.
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05:00
(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
05:02
That will bring you to my latest project.
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接下來是我最近的一個創作。
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I'm in the middle of two projects:
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我同時進行兩個計畫：
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One's called "Psychogeographies."
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一個叫「心理地圖」。
05:08
It's about a six-year project
to make 100 of these humans.
to make 100 of these humans.
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這是一個需時六年的計畫，
要製造100個這樣的人類。
要製造100個這樣的人類。
05:11
Each one is an archive of our culture,
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每一個是我們文化的舊事件，
由各種撕碎的媒體和物體拼湊，
05:13
through our ripped-up media and matter,
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whether it's encyclopedias
or dictionaries or magazines.
or dictionaries or magazines.
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可以是百科全書、字典或者是雜誌。
05:18
But each one acts as a sort of an archive
in the shape of a human,
in the shape of a human,
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但每一個代表了一種過去事件，
以人類樣貌呈現，
以人類樣貌呈現，
05:22
and they travel in groups
of 20, 4, or 12 at a time.
of 20, 4, or 12 at a time.
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而它們會一群一群出現，
每次20個，4個或者12個。
每次20個，4個或者12個。
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They're like cells --
they come together, they divide.
they come together, they divide.
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它們像是細胞一般，
它們一起被創造、分割。
它們一起被創造、分割。
而你可以從它們之中走過，
這花了我很多年的時間。
這花了我很多年的時間。
05:28
And you kind of walk through them.
It's taking me years.
It's taking me years.
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05:31
Each one is basically
a 3,000-pound microscope slide
a 3,000-pound microscope slide
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每一個基本上都是3000磅的顯微鏡片，
裡面存著一個人。
05:35
with a human stuck inside.
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這一個的胸腔裡面有個小小的洞穴。
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This one has a little cave in his chest.
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That's his head; there's the chest,
you can kind of see the beginning.
you can kind of see the beginning.
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這是他的頭，那是他的胸腔，
你可以感受到如何開始的。
你可以感受到如何開始的。
接下來我會向你們介紹其他身體的部分：
05:43
I'm going to go down the body for you:
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There's a waterfall
coming out of his chest,
coming out of his chest,
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這是一個瀑布，從他的胸腔出來，
遮蓋了老二，
或者不是老二，什麼都行，
或者不是老二，什麼都行，
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covering his penis -- or not-penis,
or whatever it is,
or whatever it is,
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a kind of androgynous thing.
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有點像是雌雄同體的物體。
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I'll take you quickly through these works,
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我會快速地向你們
帶過一遍這些作品，
帶過一遍這些作品，
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because I can't explain them for too long.
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因為我不能解釋太久。
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There are the layers,
you can kind of see it.
you can kind of see it.
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你可以大概看到這裡面有很多層。
這是一個分裂成兩半的身體。
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That's a body getting split in half.
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這一個有兩個頭，
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This one has two heads,
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and it's communicating
between the two heads.
between the two heads.
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好像就在兩個頭之間溝通一樣。
你可以看到，有些東西吐出來，
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You can see the pills coming out,
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going into one head
from this weird statue.
from this weird statue.
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從這個奇怪的雕像進入到這一個頭裡面。
06:14
There's a little forest scene
inside the chest cavity.
inside the chest cavity.
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這裡有一個小小的樹林在胸腔之間。
06:17
Can you see that?
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你看到了嗎？
06:18
Anyway, this talk's all about these boxes,
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總之，這次的演講都是有關於這些盒子，
06:20
like the boxes we're in.
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就像我們生活在其中的盒子。
06:22
This box we're in,
the solar system is a box.
the solar system is a box.
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太陽系就是個盒子，
而我們就在這裡面。
而我們就在這裡面。
06:25
This brings you to my latest box.
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這就帶到我最新的盒子。
這是個磚頭盒子，
叫做「先驅者之作」。
叫做「先驅者之作」。
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It's a brick box.
It's called Pioneer Works.
It's called Pioneer Works.
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06:30
(Cheers)
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（歡呼）
06:32
Inside of this box is a physicist,
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在這個盒子裡，有個物理學家、
一個神經學家、畫家、音樂家、
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a neuroscientist, a painter, a musician,
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a writer, a radio station,
a museum, a school,
a museum, a school,
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一個作家、廣播站、博物館、學校、
06:45
a publishing arm to disseminate all
the content we make there into the world;
the content we make there into the world;
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一間向全世界宣傳我們
作品內容的出版公司、
作品內容的出版公司、
一個花園。
06:50
a garden.
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我們搖動這個盒子，
06:52
We shake this box up,
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and all these people kind of start
hitting each other like particles.
hitting each other like particles.
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而這些人就像顆粒一樣
互相撞擊著對方。
互相撞擊著對方。
我想，這就是你可以改變世界的方法。
06:56
And I think that's the way
you change the world.
you change the world.
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You redefine your insides
and the box that you're living in.
and the box that you're living in.
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你重新定義自己的內在，
和你生活在其中的那個盒子。
和你生活在其中的那個盒子。
然後你會意識到我們都在這裡面，
07:03
And you come together to realize
that we're all in this together,
that we're all in this together,
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彼此差別的這種錯覺──
07:06
that this delusion of difference --
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this idea of countries, of borders,
of religion -- doesn't work.
of religion -- doesn't work.
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國家、邊界、宗教差異等──
在盒中全部都不存在。
在盒中全部都不存在。
07:13
We're all really made up
of the same stuff, in the same box.
of the same stuff, in the same box.
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我們其實是在同一個盒子裡
由同樣的物件組成。
由同樣的物件組成。
07:18
And if we don't start
exchanging that stuff sweetly and nicely,
exchanging that stuff sweetly and nicely,
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而如果我們現在不開始好好地、
友好地互相交換這個東西，
友好地互相交換這個東西，
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we're all going to die real soon.
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我們很快就會滅亡了。
07:25
Thank you very much.
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謝謝。
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(Applause)
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Dustin Yellin - SculptorAcclaimed for his monumental “sculptural paintings,” Dustin Yellin now nurtures voices in the art community with Pioneer Works, his mammoth Brooklyn art center.
Why you should listen
Dustin Yellin’s mesmerizing glass sculptures explode collage into three dimensional forms, and have won him accolades from all over the art world. From early works of layered resin, Yellin’s sculptures increased in size (and weight), culminating in the 12-ton, three-paneled The Triptych.
But Yellin’s most ambitious project may be Pioneer Works, a colossal, 27,000-square-foot artist’s complex and foundation in Red Hook, Brooklyn. With its residencies, workshops and on-site science lab, Pioneer Works cultivates cross-disciplinary experimentation regardless of profit potential.
Dustin Yellin | Speaker | TED.com