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C.K. Williams - Poet
Often called a social poet, C.K. Williams was fascinated by the characters of modern civilization and their interactions.

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C.K. Williams started writing poetry at 19, after taking only his required English classes at University of Pennsylvania. In the 1960s, he began gearing his poems toward social issues, such as the brutality that  civil rights activists often faced and his anti-war stance with respect to Vietnam. Over time, although he continued to write about society, his work became more personal. His focus shifted to the intersection of profoundly different lives in crowded urban spaces, using these instances to examine sensitive issues such as race and class.    

The subject matter of his work is not its only controversy, and Williams is often compared to Whitman and Ginsberg because of his unusually long lines of verse. Despite his unconventional poetic form, he was awarded the Pulitzer Prize, the National Book Award and the National Book Critics Circle Award, among other honors. He also published five works of translation and a psychologically introspective memoir, Misgivings: My Mother, My Father, Myself. Williams died in September 2015.

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C.K. Williams: Poetry of youth and age

C.K.威廉姆斯(Charles Kenneth Williams) 關於年輕與年老的詩歌

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詩人C.K.威廉姆斯(Charles Kenneth Williams) 在2001年的TED論壇上,朗讀自己的詩作。他的作品充滿了多彩的畫面,有童年鬧的脾氣、大學的戀人、怪癖的鄰居,還有消逝的青春,提醒我們生活中那些獨特的機遇。
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Often called a social poet, C.K. Williams was fascinated by the characters of modern civilization and their interactions. Full bio

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I thought I would read poems I have that relate涉及 to the subject學科
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我想要讀一些和這個主題相關的詩
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of youth青年 and age年齡.
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關於年輕與年老
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I was sort分類 of astonished驚訝 to find out how many許多 I have actually其實.
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有些吃驚,我才發覺我寫了不少
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The first one is dedicated專用 to
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第一首是獻給
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Spencer斯賓塞, and his grandmother祖母, who was shocked吃驚 by his work.
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斯潘塞(Spencer),以及他的祖母,她被他的作品給嚇壞了。
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My poem is called "Dirt污垢."
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這首詩的題目是:灰塵
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My grandmother祖母 is washing洗滌 my mouth out with soap肥皂;
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我的祖母正用肥皂刷我的嘴
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half a long century世紀 gone走了
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半個世紀過去了
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and still she comes at me
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而今她仍到我面前
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with that thick cruel殘忍 yellow黃色 bar酒吧.
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帶著那塊又厚又殘忍的黃肥皂
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All because of a word I said,
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就因為我說的一個字
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not even said really, only repeated重複.
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其實也不是說,只是重複
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But "Open打開," she says, "open打開 up!"
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但是,「張嘴!」她說道:「張開嘴!」
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her hand clawing at my head.
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她用手抓住我的頭
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I know now her life was hard;
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現在我知道她當時的生活艱苦
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she lost丟失 three children孩子 as babies嬰兒,
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她失去了三個還在襁褓中的孩子
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then her husband丈夫 died死亡 too,
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然後她丈夫也掛了
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leaving離開 young年輕 sons兒子, and no money.
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沒有錢,就留下幾個年幼的兒子。
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She'd stand me in the sink水槽 to pee撒尿
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她把着我在洗碗槽裡尿尿
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because there was never room房間 in the toilet廁所.
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因為廁所裡沒位置了
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But oh, her soap肥皂!
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可是,噢!她的肥皂!
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Might威力 its bitter burning燃燒 have been
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大概就是這苦苦的灼燒
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what made製作 me a poet詩人?
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讓我成了一名詩人?
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The street she lived生活 on was unpaved未鋪砌,
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她住的那條街路面沒有鋪砌
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her flat平面, two cramped狹窄 rooms客房 and a fetid有惡臭的 kitchen廚房
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她的公寓,兩間房間擁擠狹小,廚房惡臭四溢
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where she stalked大步 and caught抓住 me.
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她總在那裡盯著我,逮到我
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Dare I admit承認 that after she did it
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我敢承認嗎?在她那麼對我之後
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I never really loved喜愛 her again?
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我再也不曾愛她了
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She lived生活 to a hundred,
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她活到了一百歲
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even then. All along沿 it was the sadness, the squalor骯髒,
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即便那時,都還是傷心,邋遢
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but I never, until直到 now
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但直到如今,我依然無法
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loved喜愛 her again.
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再次愛她
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When that was published發表 in a magazine雜誌
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這首詩刊登在雜誌上的時候
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I got an irate發怒的 letter from my uncle叔叔.
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我叔叔寄了封充滿憤怒的信給我。
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"You have maligned非議 a great woman女人."
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「你詆毀了一位偉大的女性。」
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It took some diplomacy外交.
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我還得圓滑地應付一下
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This is called "The Dress連衣裙."
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接著這首詩叫作「家居服」
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It's a longer poem.
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是一首長詩
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In those days,
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那些日子裏
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those days which哪一個 exist存在 for me only
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在那些僅為我而存在
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as the most elusive難以捉摸 memory記憶 now,
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如今成了最為曖昧不明的記憶的日子裏
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when often經常 the first sound聲音 you'd hear in the morning早上
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當清晨時分往往你最先聽到的
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would be a storm風暴 of birdsong鳥鳴聲,
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是一陣鳥囀的轟鳴,
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then the soft柔軟的 clop of the hooves
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然後是輕柔的蹄踏聲
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of the horse hauling牽引 a milk牛奶 wagon車皮 down your block,
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馬兒拉著運送牛奶的四輪車來到你的街區
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and the last sound聲音 at night as likely容易 as not
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而晚間最後的聲響則多半
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would be your father父親 pulling up in his car汽車,
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來自你正在停車的父親
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having worked工作 late晚了 again, always late晚了,
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又一次工作晚歸,總是如此
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and going heavily嚴重 down to the cellar地窖, to the furnace,
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步伐沉重地往地窖,朝火爐走去
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to shake out the ashes灰燼 and damp潮濕 the draft草案
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將爐灰抖落,闔上進氣口
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before he came來了 upstairs樓上 to fall秋季 into bed --
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在他上樓倒向床鋪以前
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in those long-ago很久以前 days,
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那些遙遠的日子裏
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women婦女, my mother母親, my friends'朋友' mothers母親,
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女人,我的母親、朋友的母親們、
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our neighbors鄰居, all the women婦女 I knew知道 --
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旁鄰,所有我知道的女性
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wore穿著, often經常 much of the day,
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幾乎成天穿著
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what were called housedresses起居服,
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被稱為家居服的洋裝
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cheap低廉, printed印刷的, pulpy稀爛,
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廉價、印花、質地欠佳
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seemingly似乎 purposefully目的地 shapeless無形的
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像是刻意掩藏身形似地
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light cotton shifts轉變 that you wore穿著 over your nightgown睡衣
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套在睡衣外的薄棉直筒連身裙
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and, when you had to go look for a child兒童,
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好讓妳在必須照顧孩子時換上
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hang wash on the line,
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晾衣時換上
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or run down to the grocery雜貨 store商店 on the corner,
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或在跑向街角雜貨店的時候
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under a coat塗層,
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穿在大衣底下,
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the twisted扭曲 hem下擺 of the nightgown睡衣
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睡袍的蜷曲鑲邊
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always lank平直 and yellowed泛黃,
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總是過長而泛黃的,
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dangling懸空 beneath下面.
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垂擺著
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More than the curlers捲髮器 some of the women婦女
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簡直比某些女性
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seemed似乎 constantly經常 to have in their hair頭髮
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為了某些重要場合 -- 好比一場舞會
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in preparation製備 for some great event事件 --
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而精心處理的髮捲
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a ball, one would think --
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更蜷曲得多
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that never came來了 to pass通過;
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儘管這從未發生
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more than the way most women's女士的 faces面孔
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那也比大多數女人
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not only were never made製作 up during the day,
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不化妝時
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but seemed似乎 scraped, bleached漂白,
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顯得粗糙、慘澹的肌膚
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and, with their plucked撥弦 eyebrows眉毛, scarilyscarily masklikemasklike;
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並且剃去眉毛的臉龐還更嚇人,更像面具;
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more than all that it was those dresses禮服
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真正可怕的是,正是這些家居服
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that made製作 women婦女 so unknowable不可知 and forbidding森嚴,
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使女人變得如此平庸並且難以親近
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adepts行家 of enigmas to which哪一個 men男人 could have no access訪問,
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以致於成為男人眼中不能傾心
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and boys男孩 no conception概念.
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在男孩眼裡毫無遐想的女性
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Only later後來 would I see the dresses禮服 also
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直到後來我才認識到那服裝
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as a proclamation公告:
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也代表這樣的宣言
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that in your dim暗淡 kitchen廚房, your laundry洗衣店,
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在妳微暗的廚房裏、衣服堆中
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your bleak蒼涼 concrete具體 yard,
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在妳不蔽風雨的水泥後院
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what you revealed透露 of yourself你自己
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妳所發掘出的
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was a fabulationfabulation;
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是屬於妳的美好國度
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your real真實 sensual聲色 nature性質,
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妳那真實的感受天性
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veiled含蓄 in those sexless性冷感的 vestments法衣,
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即使被毫無生氣的樣板服裝掩藏著
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was utterly完全 your dominion主權.
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依然全是妳轄下的領土
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In those days, one hid much else其他 as well:
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那些日子裏,我們同樣掩藏了另外一些事
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grown長大的 men男人 didn't embrace擁抱 one another另一個,
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成年之後男人不再擁抱彼此
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unless除非 someone有人 had died死亡,
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除了在某人死去的場合
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and not always then; you shook震撼 hands
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但也不總是如此。你們只是握手
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or, at a ball game遊戲, thumped完胜 your friend's朋友的 back
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或在一場球賽中用力地槌打朋友的背
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and exchanged交換 blows打擊 meant意味著 to be codes代碼 for affection感情;
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或是互賞兩拳以示彼此情誼深厚;
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once一旦 out of childhood童年 you'd never again know
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只是一旦遠離了童年你便不再記得
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the shock休克 of your father's父親的 whiskers晶須 on your cheek臉頰,
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父親的鬍渣磨過臉頰時內心激起的騷動
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not until直到 mores習俗 at last had evolved進化,
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直到你的終於歷經了一些事
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and you could hug擁抱 another另一個 man, then hold保持 on for a moment時刻,
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又能再輕擁另一個男人,維持片刻
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then even kiss (your fathers父親 bristles刷毛
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甚至吻頰
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white白色 and stiff僵硬 now).
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(這時你父親的鬍渣已經硬而花白了)
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What release發布 finally最後, the embrace擁抱:
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最後是深深的擁抱
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though雖然 we were wary警惕 -- it seemed似乎 so audacious膽大 --
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儘管仍有些不自在──這舉動看來如此魯莽──
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how much unspoken joy喜悅 there was
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在這樣親密的情感交融中
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in that affirmation肯定 of equality平等 and communion交往,
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溢於言表的喜悅將有多少?
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no matter how much misunderstanding誤解
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自那時起你所經歷過的一切
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and pain疼痛 had passed通過 between之間 you by then.
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誤解和痛楚都無關緊要了
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We knew知道 so little in those days,
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那些日子裏,我們幾近一無所知
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as little as now, I suppose假設
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一如此刻,我猜想
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about healing復原 those hurts傷害:
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關於療愈傷痛的方式:
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even the women婦女, in their best最好 dresses禮服,
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即使女人都穿上了她們最好的洋裝
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with beads and sequins亮片 sewn縫製 on the bodices緊身衣,
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上身綴飾著珠子和亮片
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even in lipstick口紅 and mascara睫毛膏,
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甚至塗上口紅和睫毛膏,
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their hair頭髮 aflowaflow,
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秀髮迎風飄揚,
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could only stand wringing搥胸頓足 their hands,
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卻也只能痛心地緊握雙手
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begging乞討 for peace和平,
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一心乞求寧靜
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while father父親 and son兒子, like thugs打手,
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因為那時的父親和孩子就像是無賴
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like thieves盜賊, like Romans羅馬書,
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像是小偷、像古羅馬人那樣
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simmered and hissed發出噓聲 and hated,
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令人髮指、生怨、厭恨
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inflicting造成 sorrows悲傷 that endured忍受,
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強加她們以
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the worst最差 anyway無論如何,
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無比的哀愁
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through通過 the kiss and embrace擁抱,
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透過那吻頰、擁抱
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bleeding流血的 from brother哥哥 to brother哥哥,
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在兄弟間流淌
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into the generations.
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流傳世代。
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In those days there was still countryside農村
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那些日子裏仍有鄰近城市的鄉間
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close to the city, farms農場, cornfields玉米田, cows奶牛;
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農莊、玉米田、牛群;
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even not far from our building建造
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甚至離我們居住的地方不遠
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with its blurred模糊 brick and long shadowy神出鬼沒 hallway門廳
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那兒有久未修葺的磚頭和有蔭的長廊
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you could find tracts大片 with hills丘陵 and trees樹木
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你得以發現大片的山丘與樹林
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you could pretend假裝 were mountains and forests森林.
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你可以假裝自己發現了高山和森林
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Or you could go out by yourself你自己
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你也可以獨自外出
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even to a half-block-long半個街區長 empty lot,
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甚至到半個街區外的一塊空曠處
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into the bushes灌木叢: like a creature生物 of leaves樹葉 you'd lurk匿伏,
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鑽入矮叢裏──像一隻林裏的野獸隱密前進
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crouched蹲在, crawling爬行, simplified, savage野蠻人, alone單獨;
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蜷伏著、爬行著、原始、野蠻、而形隻影單;
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already已經 there was wanting希望 to be simpler簡單,
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有一股回歸原始的渴望,
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wanting希望, when they called you,
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渴望著,當他們呼喚你,
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never to go back.
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也永遠不要回去。
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(Applause掌聲)
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This is another另一個 longish稍長 one,
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接下來也是一首長詩
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about the old and the young年輕.
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關於年長和還年輕的人
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It actually其實 happened發生 right at the time we met會見.
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這實際上發生在我和他相遇的那段時間
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Part部分 of the poem takes place地點 in
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這首詩的部份發生在
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space空間 we shared共享 and time we shared共享.
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我們曾共享的場所與時間裏
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It's called "The Neighbor鄰居."
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詩名是「鄰人」
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Her five horrid可怕的, deformed變形 little dogs小狗
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她那五隻惹人厭,醜陋不堪的狗
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who incessantly不已 yap on the roof屋頂 under my window窗口.
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不斷地在我窗戶下方的屋頂狂吠
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Her cats, God knows知道 how many許多,
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她的貓 -- 天曉得有多少隻
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who must必須 piss小便 on her rugs地毯 --
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一定都尿在她的地毯上,
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her landing's降落的 a sickening令人作嘔 reek腐臭.
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她的樓梯平台散發出令人作嘔的晦氣
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Her shadow陰影 once一旦, fumbling摸索 the chain on her door,
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笨拙摸索著門鎖的影子
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then the door slamming猛擊 fearfully可怕 shut關閉,
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因害怕而緊閉著的門
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only the barking叫聲 and the music音樂 -- jazz爵士樂 --
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只有動物的聲音和爵士的調子
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filtering濾波 as it does, day and night into the hall大廳.
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如以往不停地飄入(我和她的)客廳
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The time it was Chris克里斯 Connor康納 singing唱歌 "Lush青蔥的 Life" --
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那時播的是Chris Connor所演唱的"Lush Life"
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how it brought back my college學院 sweetheart愛人,
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令我深深思念起我大學時代的戀人
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my first real真實 love, who -- till直到 I left her --
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我初戀的摯愛,
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played發揮 the same相同 record記錄.
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直到我離開她時 她都放著這首歌
07:51
And head on my shoulder, hand on my thigh大腿,
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頭枕著我的肩 手搭著我的腿
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sang sweetly甜蜜 along沿, of regrets遺憾 and depletions枯竭
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低聲唱和著,悔恨和逝去
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she was too young年輕 for,
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那是她太年輕所無法承擔,
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as I was too young年輕, later後來, to believe in her pain疼痛.
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而我太年輕所無法相信的,她的痛楚。
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It startled, then bored無聊, then repelled擊退 me.
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痛苦讓我驚愕,讓我煩悶,最後驅逐了我。
08:10
My starting開始 to fancy幻想 she'd ended結束 up in this fire-trap火焰陷阱
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我開始幻想 她在這個小村中出現
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in the Village, that my neighbor鄰居 was her.
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成為我的鄰居
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My thinking思維 we'd星期三 meet遇到, recognize認識 one another另一個,
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我臆想著我們相遇,認出對方,
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become成為 friends朋友, that I'd accomplish完成 a penance苦修.
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成為朋友,而我也將完成贖罪。
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My seeing眼看 her, it wasn't her, at the mailbox郵箱.
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我看著她,在郵箱旁的,不是她。
08:28
Gray-yellow灰黃色 hair頭髮, army軍隊 pants褲子 under a nightgown睡衣,
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灰黃的頭髮,睡衣下穿著軍褲,
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her turning車削 away, hiding her ravaged蹂躪 face面對
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她轉過身,以手遮住
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in her hands, muttering咕噥 an inappropriate不當 "Hi你好."
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滿是皺摺的臉,不自然地呢喃著:“ 嗨。“
08:40
Sometimes有時 there are frightening可怕的 goings-on事情上, in the stairwell樓梯間.
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偶爾樓梯井裡會發生一些恐怖的事情。
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A man shouting叫喊, "Shut關閉 up!" The dogs小狗 frantically瘋狂 snarling,
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男人吼道:“閉嘴!“ 狗則開始狂吠,
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claws scrabbling抓撓, then her -- her voice語音
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爪子瘋狂的撓,然後是她 -- 她的聲音
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hoarse嘶啞, harsh苛刻, hollow空洞,
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嘶啞的,低沉的,空洞的,
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almost幾乎 only a tone,
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僅是一聲
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incoherent顛三倒四, a note注意, a squawk發牢騷,
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不連貫的,音符,怪叫
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bone on metal金屬, metal金屬 gone走了 molten熔融,
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撞在金屬上,金屬也因之熔化了,
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calling調用 them back,
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叫著他們回來,
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"Come back darlings寵兒, come back dear ones那些.
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“回來親愛的,回來親愛的。
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My sweet angels天使, come back."
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我心愛的天使們,回來。“
09:09
Medea美狄亞 she was, next下一個 time I saw her.
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再次見到她時,她化身爲美狄亞。
09:12
Sorceress巫婆, tranced變身。, ecstatic欣喜若狂,
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女巫般,恍惚地,欣喜若狂,
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stock-still靜止的 on the sidewalk人行道
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呆立在人行道上
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ragged破爛 coat塗層 hanging agape純愛,
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衣衫襤褸披掛,
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passersby路人 flowing流動 around her,
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行人從她身旁流過,
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her mouth torn撕裂 suddenly突然 open打開
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她的嘴突然張大
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as though雖然 in a scream驚叫,
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像要驚聲尖叫,
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silently默默 though雖然, as though雖然 only in her brain
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儘管未曾出聲,彷彿恐怖只在她腦中
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or breast乳房 had it erupted爆發.
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或胸中噴發。
09:31
A cry so pure, practiced, detached超脫,
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純粹,熟練,而超然的吶喊,
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it had no need of a voice語音,
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不需出聲,
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or could no longer bear one.
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或已無法再出聲。
09:40
These invisible無形 links鏈接 that allure引誘,
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不可見的羈絆吸引著
09:43
these transfigurationstransfigurations, even of anguish痛苦, that hold保持 us.
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這些變遷,就算是痛苦也同樣聯繫著我們。
09:48
The girl女孩, my old love,
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那個我從前深愛的女孩,
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the last lost丟失 time I saw her
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最後一次見面
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when she came來了 to find me at a party派對,
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是在一場派對裡,
09:55
her drunkenly忘情 stumbling絆腳, falling落下,
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她過來找我,喝得爛醉如泥,
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sprawling蔓延, skirt短裙 hiked上調, eyes眼睛 veined red,
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腳步歪倒,衣衫不整,兩眼充血,
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swollen with tears眼淚, her shame恥辱,
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紅腫的眼框裡,是淚,是愧,
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her dishonor羞辱.
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是悔。
10:06
My ignorant愚昧, arrogant傲慢 coarseness粗糙,
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出於無知,自大和粗野,
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my secret秘密 pride自豪, my turning車削 away.
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我不爲人知的傲慢,我轉身離去。
10:13
Still life on a rooftop屋頂,
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屋頂上的靜物,
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dead trees樹木 in barrels, a bench長凳 broken破碎,
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桶中的枯樹,壞掉的長椅,
10:19
dogs小狗, excrement糞便, sky天空.
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狗,排泄物,天空。
10:21
What pathways途徑 through通過 pain疼痛,
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什麼能帶領我穿越痛苦,
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what junctures關頭 of vulnerability漏洞,
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什麼時刻是穿越脆弱的關頭,
10:26
what crossings道口 and counteringscounterings?
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什麼會交會,什麼又會背道而馳?
10:28
Too many許多 lives生活 in our lives生活 already已經,
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我們的生活中已經存在太多的生命,
10:31
too many許多 chances機會 for sorrow悲哀,
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太多讓我們體驗痛苦的機會,
10:33
too many許多 unaccounted-for不明確的 pasts的過去.
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太多下落不明的過去。
10:36
"Behold看哪 me," the god of frenzied喪心病狂,
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“看著我,“ 那狂暴的,
10:38
inexhaustible取之不盡,用之不竭 love says,
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無盡愛意之神,
10:41
rising升起 in bloody血腥 splendor, "Behold看哪 me."
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帶著一身鮮血淋漓的輝煌說:“看著我。“
10:46
Her making製造 her way
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她一路向前
10:48
down the littered散落 vestibule前廳 stairs樓梯,
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去到髒亂的門廊階梯
10:50
one agonized苦澀 step at a time.
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每一步都痛苦不堪。
10:53
My holding保持 the door.
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我把著門。
10:55
Her crossing路口 the fragmented支離破碎 tiles瓷磚,
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她穿過破散的瓷磚,
10:57
faltering步履蹣跚 at the step to the street,
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在走向街頭的方向支吾著,
11:00
droning嗡嗡, not looking at me,
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低聲的說著,但沒有看著我,
11:02
"Can you help me?"
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“能幫我一把嗎?“
11:04
Taking my arm, leaning lightly輕輕 against反對 me.
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扶著我的手臂,輕輕地靠著我。
11:08
Her wavering搖擺不定 step into the world世界.
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她搖晃著腳步踏進這個世界。
11:11
Her whispering耳語, "Thanks謝謝 love." Lightly輕輕, lightly輕輕 against反對 me.
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她低聲呢喃著:“謝謝你,親愛的。“ 輕輕地,輕輕地,對著我。
11:20
(Applause掌聲)
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(掌聲)
11:29
I think I'll lighten減輕 up a little.
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我想我應該讓氣氛愉悅一點
11:31
(Laughter笑聲)
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(笑)
11:33
Another另一個, different不同 kind of poem of youth青年 and age年齡.
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另一首 很不同的有關年輕與老的詩
11:37
It's called "Gas加油站."
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氣體
11:39
(Laughter笑聲)
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11:41
Wouldn't豈不 it be nice不錯, I think,
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這不是很棒嗎?我想,
11:43
when the blue-haired藍發 lady淑女 in the doctor's醫生 waiting等候 room房間
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當一位藍髮女郎
11:46
bends彎曲 over the magazine雜誌 table
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正在候診室彎身向雜誌架時
11:49
and farts放屁, just a little,
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放了屁,就一點點,
11:51
and violently猛烈 blushes臉紅.
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變得滿臉通紅。
11:54
Wouldn't豈不 it be nice不錯 if intestinal gas加油站
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假如這腸道的氣體
11:56
came來了 embodied體現 in visible可見 clouds,
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在空氣裡變成肉眼可見的話,那不是很棒嗎?
11:59
so she could see that her really quite相當 inoffensive無害 pop流行的
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如此一來她就會看見她那不甚擾人的爆裂
12:02
had only barely僅僅 grazed擦過 my face面對
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只不過是輕輕掠過了我的臉龐
12:04
before it drifted漂流 away.
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就在它飄散開去之前。
12:06
(Laughter笑聲)
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(笑)
12:08
Besides除了, for this to have happened發生 now
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此外,現在這個狀況
12:10
is a nice不錯 coincidence巧合. Because not an hour小時 ago,
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正巧是一個美妙的巧合。因為就在不到一個小時之前,
12:13
while we were on our walk步行,
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在我們散步途中,
12:15
my dog was startled by a backfire逆火
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我的狗被一輛車子的逆火聲所驚
12:17
and jumped跳下 straight直行 up like a horse bucking屈曲.
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嚇得直跳了起來,活像匹馬拱背似的。
12:20
And that brought back to me the stable穩定
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這也讓我想起了童年的馬廄
12:22
I worked工作 on weekends週末 when I was 12,
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我12歲的時候每逢週末就在那裡打工,
12:24
and a splendid燦爛 piebald stallion,
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有匹花色種馬,
12:27
who whenever每當 he was mounted安裝 would buck降壓 just like that,
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每逢上了鞍就會像那樣拱背蹦起,
12:30
though雖然 more hugely巨大 of course課程,
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當然動作更劇烈,
12:33
enormous巨大, gleaming閃閃發光的, resplendent燦爛.
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巨大,閃耀,且輝煌。
12:35
And the woman女人, her face面對 abashedlyabashedly buried隱藏
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而那位困窘地把頭埋進《Elle》裡的女郎,
12:38
in her "Elle艾麗" now, reminded提醒 me --
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則讓我想起了 --
12:40
I'd forgotten忘記了 that not the least最小 part部分 of my awe威嚴
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我已然忘記的我最畏懼的事情
12:43
consisted of the fact事實 that with every一切 jump he took
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就是那花馬每跳一下
12:47
the horse would powerfully有力 fart.
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都會用力的放屁
12:49
PhwapPhwap! PhwapPhwap! PhwapPhwap!
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噗!噗!噗!
12:51
Something never mentioned提到
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這件事是
12:53
in the dozens許多 of books圖書 about horses馬匹
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在任何一本跟馬有關的書裡,
12:55
and their riders車手 I devoured吞噬 in those days.
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或那些我熟知騎手們都不曾提到過的。
12:58
All that savage野蠻人 grandeur富麗堂皇,
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所有野蠻雄偉,
13:01
the steely鋼鐵般 glinting閃閃發光 hooves,
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發光的鐵蹄
13:03
the eruptions爆發 driven驅動 from the creature's生物 mighty威武 innards內臟,
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從那生物全能的內臟而來的能量爆發,
13:07
breath呼吸 stopped停止, heart stopped停止, nostrils鼻孔 madly發狂 flared喇叭形,
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呼吸停止,心跳停止,鼻孔瘋狂噴氣,
13:12
I didn't know if I wanted to break打破 him, or be him.
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我不知道我是想打斷他,還是成為他。
13:17
(Laughter笑聲)
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(笑聲)
13:19
(Applause掌聲)
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(鼓掌)
13:29
This is called "Thirst口渴."
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現在這首詩叫作「渴」
13:34
Many許多 -- most of my poems actually其實
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我的許多──絕大多數的詩其實是
13:36
are urban城市的 poems. I happen發生 to be reading a bunch that aren't.
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城市詩。我現在要念一首則恰好不是
13:40
"Thirst口渴."
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「渴」
13:42
Here was my relation關係 with the woman女人 who lived生活 all last autumn秋季 and winter冬季,
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接下來是我與一位去年秋冬不分日夜
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day and night, on a bench長凳
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都生活在地鐵103 街站
13:48
in the 103rdRD Street subway地鐵 station,
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一張長凳上的女性的關係,
13:51
until直到 finally最後 one day she vanished消失.
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直到某天她消失為止。
13:54
We regarded認為 each other, scrutinized審查 one another另一個.
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我們互相打量,仔細審視對方。
13:58
Me shyly害羞地, obliquely, trying not to be furtive鬼鬼祟祟.
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我膽怯而拙劣地,想要顯得不那麼偷偷摸摸。
14:02
She boldly大膽, unblinkingly一眨不眨, even pugnaciouslypugnaciously,
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她則大膽,目不轉睛,甚挑釁好戰地,
14:06
wrathfully忿忿 even, when her bottle瓶子 was empty.
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當她的酒瓶乾涸時,甚至是暴怒的。
14:11
I was frightened受驚 of her. I felt like a child兒童.
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我被她嚇壞了。覺得自己就像個小孩似的。
14:14
I was afraid害怕 some repressed壓抑 part部分 of myself
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我害怕我那些被壓抑的部份
14:17
would go out of control控制, and I'd be forever永遠 entrapped包埋
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會不受控制傾巢而出,而我將永遠
14:20
in the shocking觸目驚心 seethe沸騰 of her stench惡臭.
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被禁錮在她那惡臭四溢的驚人水域中。
14:24
Not excrement糞便 merely僅僅, not merely僅僅 surface表面
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不僅是排泄物,不僅是表皮
14:27
and orifice going unwashed沒洗過,
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身上的毛孔也將變得不潔淨,
14:29
rediffusion麗的呼聲 of rum朗姆酒,
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蘭姆酒將
14:31
there was will in it,
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會填滿這些孔穴,
14:33
and intention意向, power功率 and purpose目的 --
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還有意圖,力量,目的,
14:35
a social社會, ethical合乎道德的 rage憤怒 and rebellion暴動 --
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一個社會,倫理的憤怒和反抗,
14:39
despair絕望 too, though雖然, grief哀思, loss失利.
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還有失望,悲痛,失落。
14:44
Sometimes有時 I'd think I should take her home with me,
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有時候我覺得應該帶她一起回家,
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bathe洗澡 her, comfort安慰 her, dress連衣裙 her.
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讓她洗澡,安撫她,梳理打扮她。
14:49
She wouldn't不會 have wanted me to, I would think.
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我又覺得,她大概不會希望我那樣做。
14:52
Instead代替, I'd step into my train培養.
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於是乎,我會踏進我等待的列車。
14:55
How rich豐富 I would think, is the lexicon詞庫
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我心想,我們自我開脫的辭彙表
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of our self-absolving自我開脫.
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是多麼的豐富啊!
15:00
How enduring持久, our bland平淡 fatal致命 assurance保證
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我們反映正義被確實執行的
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that reflection反射 is righteousness being存在 accomplished完成.
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乏味而致命的保證,又是多麼持久。
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The dance舞蹈 of our glances眼神,
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我們的眼波流轉,
15:10
the clash衝突, pulling each other through通過
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交鋒,讓彼此經歷了
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our perceptual知覺的 punctures穿刺,
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感知的衝撞穿刺,
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then holocaust大屠殺, holocaust大屠殺,
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和隨之而來的大毀滅,巨大毀滅。
15:17
host主辦 on host主辦 of ill生病, injured受傷 presences派駐,
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寄居於眾多病源之上,殘破的存在,
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squandered揮霍, consumed消費.
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浪擲,揮霍。
15:25
Her vigil守夜 somewhere某處 I know continues繼續.
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我知道她仍在某處繼續著她的守夜儀式。
15:28
Her occupancy佔用, her absolute絕對, faithful可信 attendance.
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她盤據著,她會絕對忠實的出席。
15:33
The dance舞蹈 of our glances眼神, challenge挑戰, abdication退位,
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我們的眼波流轉,質疑,退卻,
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effacement抹殺, the perfume香水 of our consternation驚愕.
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消失,僅留下彼此驚愕的氣息。
15:44
(Applause掌聲)
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(掌聲)
15:52
This is a newer poem, a brand new poem.
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這是新作的一首詩。
15:56
The title標題 is "This Happened正巧."
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題目是「有過這樣的事」
15:59
A student學生, a young年輕 woman女人
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一位年輕的女學生
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in a fourth-floor四樓 hallway門廳 of her lycee公立中學,
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在學校的 4 樓的門廳,
16:05
perched棲息 on the ledge窗台 of an open打開 window窗口
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棲息於洞開的窗台邊緣
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chatting聊天的 with friends朋友 between之間 classes;
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在下課時間跟朋友聊著天;
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a teacher老師 passes通行證 and chides責罵 her,
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老師路過時告誡她,
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"Be careful小心, you might威力 fall秋季,"
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“當心!妳可能會摔下去,“
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almost幾乎 banteringly半開玩笑 chides責罵 her,
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用近乎戲謔的方式勸誡她,
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"You might威力 fall秋季,"
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“妳可能會摔下去,“
16:20
and the young年輕 woman女人, 18, a girl女孩 really,
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而那名女子,年方十八,還不過是個女孩,
16:23
though雖然 she wouldn't不會 think that,
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一定未曾想過,
16:25
as brilliant輝煌 as she is, first in her class,
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如此聰慧,樣樣第一,
16:28
and "Beautiful美麗, too," she's often經常 told,
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而且常常有人說她“非常漂亮。“
16:31
smiles笑容 back, and leans斜靠 into the open打開 window窗口,
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笑著回應老師,然後傾身向開著的窗,
16:35
which哪一個 wouldn't不會 even be open打開 if it were winter冬季 --
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那扇在冬天本不應開啟的窗,
16:38
if it were winter冬季 someone有人 would have closed關閉 it ("Close it!") --
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在冬天本應有人關上的窗(“關上它!“)
16:42
leans斜靠 into the window窗口, farther更遠, still smiling微笑,
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微笑著,更加傾身向窗外,
16:46
farther更遠 and farther更遠, though雖然 it takes less time
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越來越傾斜,電光石火
16:49
than this, really an instant瞬間, and lets讓我們 herself她自己 fall秋季.
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只不過是一瞬間,她跌出了窗外。
16:54
Herself她自己 fall秋季.
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她跌了下去。
16:57
A casual隨便 impulse衝動, a fancy幻想,
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不經意的,一個念頭,
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never thought of until直到 now, hardly幾乎不 thought of even now ...
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從未被想起,也幾乎不可能被想到...
17:04
No, more than impulse衝動 or fancy幻想,
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不,也不是一時的興起,
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the girl女孩 knows知道 what she's doing,
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那女孩明白她在做什麽,
17:09
the girl女孩 means手段 something,
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那女孩在暗示著些什麽,
17:11
the girl女孩 means手段 to mean,
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那女孩是故意的,
17:13
because it occurs發生 to her in that instant瞬間,
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由於想法在她腦中靈光乍現,
17:16
that beautiful美麗 or not, bright yes or no,
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漂亮與否,聰慧與否,
17:19
she's not who she is,
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那都不是她,
17:21
she's not the person she is,
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那都不是她自己,
17:23
and the reason原因, she suddenly突然 knows知道,
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而她突然明白了原因,
17:25
is that there's been so much premeditation預謀
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就是她的所在之處有太多預設,
17:28
where she is, so much plotting繪製 and planning規劃,
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太多的籌備和規劃,
17:31
there's hardly幾乎不 a person where she is,
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那裡幾乎沒有所謂的個人可言,
17:34
or if there is, it's not her, or not wholly her,
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即使有,那也不是她,或者說不是完整的她,
17:38
it's a self inhabited居住, lived生活 in by her,
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那個潛藏著,居住在她內心的自我,
17:42
and seemingly似乎 even as she thinks it
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看起來就像她所想的一樣
17:44
she knows知道 what's been missing失踪:
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她明白究竟遺失了什麼:
17:46
grace恩典,
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恩寵,
17:48
not premeditation預謀 but grace恩典,
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不是計劃,而是恩寵,
17:50
a kind of being存在 in the world世界 spontaneously自發,
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一種自在處身於世界,
17:54
with grace恩典.
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的優雅特質。
17:56
WeightfullyWeightfully upon me was the world世界.
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重壓我肩頭的是這個世界
17:59
WeightfullyWeightfully this self which哪一個 graced增光 the world世界
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這個為世界增添光彩的自我多麼份量十足
18:02
yet然而 never wholly itself本身.
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卻不是全然的自我。
18:05
WeightfullyWeightfully this self which哪一個 weighed稱重 upon me,
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重壓於我的自我世多麼份量十足,
18:08
the release發布 from which哪一個 is what I desire慾望
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從中解脫正是我所渴望
18:11
and what I achieve實現.
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是我所追求。
18:13
And the girl女孩 remembers記得, in this infinite無窮 instant瞬間
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於是女孩記起,在這被記憶一再分割
18:17
already已經 now so many許多 times divided分為,
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無限的剎那間,
18:20
the sadness she felt once一旦,
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記起了曾經的痛
18:22
hardly幾乎不 knowing會心 she felt it,
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那幾乎難以察覺的
18:24
to merely僅僅 inhabit居住於 herself她自己.
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埋藏在她心中的痛。
18:26
Yes, the girl女孩 falls下降, absurd荒誕 to fall秋季,
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喏!女孩墜落,荒誕地墜落了,
18:29
even the earth地球 with its compulsion義務
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儘管是讓她墜落的
18:32
to take unto itself本身 all that falls下降
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地球引力
18:35
must必須 know that falling落下 is absurd荒誕,
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也知道這是荒誕的,
18:37
yet然而 the girl女孩 falling落下 isn't myself,
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但那個落下的女孩不是我,
18:40
or she is myself,
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就算她的確是我,
18:42
but a self I took of my own擁有 volition意志 unto myself.
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也是我的自由意志選擇的自己。
18:46
Forever永遠. With grace恩典.
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永遠,出於恩寵。
18:50
This happened發生.
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這樣的事發生了
18:53
(Applause掌聲)
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(鼓掌)
19:01
I'll read just one more. I don't usually平時 say that.
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我會再讀一首,我很少這麼說。
19:03
I like to just end結束.
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我喜歡直接結束。
19:05
But I'm afraid害怕 that Ricky瑞奇 will come out here
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但我怕Ricky會走上來
19:08
and shake his fist拳頭 at me.
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向我揮拳
19:12
This is called "Old Man," appropriately適當 enough足夠.
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題目是「老人」,再貼切不過了
19:16
"Special特別: big tits山雀,"
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特別報導,巨乳。
19:18
Says the advertisement廣告 for a soft-core軟核 magazine雜誌
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色情雜誌的廣告上這麼寫著
19:21
on our neighborhood鄰里 newsstand報攤.
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貼在我們社區的佈告欄上。
19:23
But forget忘記 her breasts乳房.
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但先別提她的雙峰。
19:25
A lush青蔥的, fresh-lipped新鮮的唇 blond金發,
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一個肉感,雙唇嬌豔欲滴的金髮尤物,
19:28
skin皮膚 glowing泛著 gold, sprawls綿延 there,
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小麥色的肌膚,玉體橫陳,
19:31
resplendent燦爛.
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簡直是光彩奪目。
19:33
60 nearly幾乎, yet然而 these hardly幾乎不 tangible有形,
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都快60歲了,但這些無法實際碰觸到,
19:36
hardly幾乎不 better than harlots妓女, can still stir攪拌 me.
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不比娼婦高明到哪去的娘們,仍然攪得我心癢難耐。
19:41
Maybe a coming未來 of age年齡 in the
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或者一個美國感官黑暗年代
19:43
American美國 sensual聲色 darkness黑暗,
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就要來臨,
19:45
never seeing眼看 an unsmudgedunsmudged nipple乳頭,
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再也看不到沒打上馬賽克的乳頭,
19:47
an uncensored未經審查 vagina陰道,
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或未經分級審查刪除的陰道畫面,
19:49
has left me forever永遠 infected感染
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讓我的眼睛
19:52
with an unquenchable不滅 lust情慾 of the eye.
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染上了不可磨滅的淫欲。
19:55
Always that erotic好色之徒 murmur私語,
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情色的低喃總是
19:57
I'm hardly幾乎不 myself
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讓我幾乎不能自己
19:59
if I'm not in a state of incipient初期的 desire慾望.
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設若我不是沈溺在一個原欲的狀態。
20:03
God knows知道 though雖然,
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雖然說天曉得,
20:05
there are worse更差 twists曲折 your obsessions走火入魔 can take.
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癡迷會讓人陷得更深。
20:08
Last year in Israel以色列, a young年輕 ultra-orthodox極端正統派 Rabbi拉比
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去年在以色列,一位年輕的超正統拉比
20:12
guiding主導 some teenage青少年 girls女孩 through通過 the Shrine神社 of the Shoah浩劫
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帶領女學生們參觀大屠殺紀念館時
20:16
forbade禁止 them to look in one room房間.
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禁止她們參觀一個展廳。
20:19
Because there were images圖片 in it he said were licentious淫亂.
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因為他說裡頭的照片太過放蕩。
20:23
The display顯示 was a photo照片. Men男人 and women婦女 stripped剝離 naked,
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展出的某張照片。男女都被剝到赤身露體,
20:27
some trying to cover their genitals生殖器,
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有些人想遮蔽他們的生殖器,
20:29
others其他 too frightened受驚 to bother,
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有些人則被嚇到忘了要這麼做,
20:31
lined up in snow
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在雪地裡站成一排
20:33
waiting等候 to be shot射擊 and thrown拋出 into a ditch.
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等著被射殺後再丟進溝渠裡。
20:36
The girls女孩, to my horror恐怖,
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讓我覺得恐怖的是,
20:39
averted避免 their gaze凝視.
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女孩們紛紛把目光移開。
20:41
What carnal肉體 mistrust不信任 had their teacher老師 taught them.
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老師灌輸給她們的不信任肉慾的信念竟是如此深刻。
20:45
Even that though雖然. Another另一個 confession自白書:
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除此之外。還有另一個告解:
20:49
Once一旦 in a book on pre-war戰前 Poland波蘭,
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在一本戰前波蘭的書中
20:52
a studio工作室 portrait肖像, an absolute絕對 angel天使,
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一座藝術塑像,一個絕美的天使,
20:56
an absolute絕對 angel天使 with tormented折磨, tormenting折磨 eyes眼睛.
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一個帶著痛苦眼神的絕美天使。
20:58
I kept不停 finding發現 myself at her page.
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我注視了那圖良久。
21:01
That she died死亡 in the camps營地 made製作 her --
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她死於集中營 --
21:04
I didn't dare wonder奇蹟 why --
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雖然我不敢懷疑原因 --
21:07
more present當下, more precious珍貴.
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讓她顯得更具存在感,更珍貴。
21:10
Died死亡 in the camps營地, that too people --
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許多人 -- 或者說猶太人 --
21:13
or Jews猶太人 anyway無論如何 --
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也是在集中營死去
21:15
kept不停 from their children孩子 back then.
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並與他們的子女隔離。
21:17
But it was like sex性別, you didn't have to be told.
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而那就像是性,不消多說。
21:21
Sex性別 and death死亡, how close they can seem似乎.
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性和死亡,看起來多麼相似。
21:25
So constantly經常 conscious意識 now of death死亡 moving移動 towards me,
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如此不斷蓄意逼近我的死亡,
21:29
sometimes有時 I think I confound混淆 them.
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偶爾我覺得我將這兩者混淆了。
21:32
My wife's妻子 loveliness魅力 almost幾乎 consumes消耗 me.
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我妻子的愛幾乎蠶食了我。
21:35
My passion for her goes beyond reasonable合理 bounds界限.
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我對她的感情遠遠高過於合理的境界。
21:38
When we make love, her holding保持 me
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每次做愛時,她抱住我
21:41
everywhere到處 all around me,
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纏繞著我的全身,
21:43
I'm there and not there.
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我感覺如夢又如真。
21:45
My mind心神 teems盛產, jumbles混為一談 of faces面孔, voices聲音, impressions印象,
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我的腦中湧現無數的臉孔,聲音和記憶,
21:49
I live生活 my life over, as though雖然 I were drowning溺死.
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我就像溺水的人一般,眼前閃過自己一生的影像。
21:54
Then I am drowning溺死, in despair絕望
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在不得不抽離她的時刻,
21:57
at having to leave離開 her,
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我深深陷溺在絕望之中,
21:59
this, everything, all,
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這,一切,所有的一切,
22:01
unbearable不堪忍受, awful可怕.
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是如此難耐,讓人驚駭。
22:04
Still, to be able能夠 to die
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但仍能無有悔恨的
22:07
with no special特別 contrition悔悟,
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死去,
22:09
not having been slaughtered屠宰, or enslaved奴役.
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不是被屠殺,不是被奴役。
22:12
And not having to know history's歷史上 next下一個
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也不需要知道世上接著會發生
22:15
mad rage憤怒 or regression回歸,
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什麼劇烈的風暴或衰退,
22:17
it might威力 be a relief浮雕.
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死亡或者會是種解脫。
22:20
No. Again, no.
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不是,再次重申,絕不是。
22:22
I don't mean that for a moment時刻.
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我並沒有那種意思。
22:24
What I mean is the world世界 holds持有 me so tightly緊緊 --
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我是說這世界把我包得太緊 --
22:27
the good and the bad --
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好的,壞的 --
22:29
my own擁有 follies蠢事 and weakness弱點
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我的愚蠢和軟弱
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that even this counterfeit偽造 Venus金星
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以致於這贋品的維納斯
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with her sham heat, and her bosom probably大概 plumped撲通
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與她虛偽的熱情,和她觸動我心弦
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with gel凝膠, so moves移動 me
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那可能裝滿矽膠的雙峰
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my breath呼吸 catches漁獲.
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也讓我喘不過氣來。
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Vamp鞋面. Siren警笛. Seductress勾引.
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騷貨,妖女,蕩婦。
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How much more she reveals揭示
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在她如墨的星眸裡
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in her glare強光 of ink墨水 than she knows知道.
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展露了比她自己所知的還更多。
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How she incarnates體現
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她是如何將具體體現了
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our desperate殊死 human人的 need for regard看待,
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我們極度迫切的人性慾望,
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our passion to live生活 in beauty美女,
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渴望過更美好,
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to be beauty美女, to be cherished珍愛的 by glances眼神,
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變得更美麗,被注視且珍惜,
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if by no more, of something like love,
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基於類似愛,
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or love.
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或愛本身的角度。
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Thank you.
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謝謝。
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(Applause掌聲)
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(掌聲)
Translated by zhang haohan
Reviewed by Josie Chen

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C.K. Williams - Poet
Often called a social poet, C.K. Williams was fascinated by the characters of modern civilization and their interactions.

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C.K. Williams started writing poetry at 19, after taking only his required English classes at University of Pennsylvania. In the 1960s, he began gearing his poems toward social issues, such as the brutality that  civil rights activists often faced and his anti-war stance with respect to Vietnam. Over time, although he continued to write about society, his work became more personal. His focus shifted to the intersection of profoundly different lives in crowded urban spaces, using these instances to examine sensitive issues such as race and class.    

The subject matter of his work is not its only controversy, and Williams is often compared to Whitman and Ginsberg because of his unusually long lines of verse. Despite his unconventional poetic form, he was awarded the Pulitzer Prize, the National Book Award and the National Book Critics Circle Award, among other honors. He also published five works of translation and a psychologically introspective memoir, Misgivings: My Mother, My Father, Myself. Williams died in September 2015.

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