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Mary Roach: 10 things you didn't know about orgasm
Meri Rouč (Mary Roach): Deset stvari koje niste znali o orgazmu
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Meri Rouč, autor knjige "Bonk" pretresla je opskurna naučna istraživanja, stara i nekoliko vekova, da bi izvela deset iznenađujućih tvrdnji o orgazmu, od bizarnih do urnebesno smešnih. (Ovo predavanje je namenjeno odraslima. Savetuje se diskretno gledanje.)
Mary Roach - Writer
Death, the afterlife, and now sex -- Mary Roach tackles the most pondered and least understood conundrums that have baffled humans for centuries. (She's funny, too.) Full bio
Death, the afterlife, and now sex -- Mary Roach tackles the most pondered and least understood conundrums that have baffled humans for centuries. (She's funny, too.) Full bio
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Alright. I'm going to show you a couple of images
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Dobro. Pokazaću vam nekoliko fotografija
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from a very diverting paper
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iz veoma zabavnog teksta
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in The Journal of Ultrasound in Medicine.
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iz časopisa o ultrazvuku u medicini.
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I'm going to go way out on a limb and say that it is the most diverting paper
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Usudiću se da kažem da je to najzabavniji članak
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ever published in The Journal of Ultrasound in Medicine.
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ikada objavljen u tom časopisu.
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The title is "Observations of In-Utero Masturbation."
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Naslov je "Posmatranje mastrubacije unutar materice"
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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Okay. Now on the left you can see the hand -- that's the big arrow --
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Dobro. Levo sada možete videti ruku. To je velika strelica.
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and the penis on the right. The hand hovering.
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Penis je sa desne strane. Ruka lebdi.
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And over here we have,
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Ovde imamo,
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in the words of radiologist Israel Meisner,
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prema rečima radiologa Izraela Meisnera,
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"The hand grasping the penis in a fashion resembling masturbation movements."
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"Ruku koja hvata penis na način koji liči na mastrubaciju"
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Bear in mind this was an ultrasound,
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Imajte u vidu da je ovo bio ultrazvučni snimak.
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so it would have been moving images.
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Dakle, slike su se pokretale.
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Orgasm is a reflex of the autonomic nervous system.
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Orgazam je refleks autonomnog nervnog sistema.
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Now this is the part of the nervous system
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To je deo nervnog sistema
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that deals with the things that we don't consciously control,
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koji se bavi stvarima koje naša svest ne kontroliše.
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like digestion, heart rate and sexual arousal.
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Kao varenje, srčani otkucaji, seksualno uzbuđenje.
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And the orgasm reflex can be triggered
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Orgazam može biti izazvan
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by a surprisingly broad range of input.
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mnoštvom različitih nadražaja.
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Genital stimulation. Duh.
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Stimulacija genitalija.
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But also Kinsey interviewed a woman
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Ali takođe, Kinsi je intervjuisao ženu
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who could be brought to orgasm
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koja je mogla doživeti orgazam
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by having someone stroke her eyebrow.
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ukoliko bi joj neko gladio obrvu.
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People with spinal cord injuries,
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Ljudima sa povredama kičmene moždine,
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like paraplegias, quadriplegias,
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kao što su paraplegičari, kvadriplegičari,
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will often develop a very, very sensitive area
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deo tela tik iznad povrede
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right above the level of their injury,
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gde god bio
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wherever that is.
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često se razvije u veoma osetljivu zonu.
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There is such a thing as a knee orgasm in the literature.
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Postoji nešto što se u literaturi zove orgazam kolena.
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I think the most curious one that I came across
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Mislim da je najneobičniji na koji sam naletela
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was a case report of a woman
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bio izveštaj o ženi
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who had an orgasm every time she brushed her teeth.
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koja je doživljavala orgazam svaki put kada je prala zube.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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This was something in the complex
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Nešto u toj složenoj
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sensory-motor action of brushing her teeth
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senzorno-motoričkoj aktivnosti prilikom pranja zuba
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was triggering orgasm.
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je izazivalo orgazam.
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And she went to a neurologist who was fascinated.
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I otišla je kod neurologa koji je bio fasciniran.
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He checked to see if it was something in the toothpaste,
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Proverio je da li je to imalo veze sa pastom za zube.
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but no -- it happened with any brand.
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Ali, nije, dešavalo se sa svim vrstama.
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They stimulated her gums
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Stimulisali su joj desni
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with a toothpick, to see if that was doing it.
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čačkalicom, da bi utvrdili da li je efekat isti.
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No. It was the whole, you know, motion.
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No, bio je potreban ceo pokret.
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And the amazing thing to me is that
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Neverovatno je što
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now you would think this woman would like have
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biste pomislili kako je ta žena sigurno održavala
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excellent oral hygiene.
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odličnu oralnu higijenu.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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Sadly she -- this is what it said in the journal paper --
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Tužno, ali ona je - ovo je pisalo u časopisu -
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"She believed that she was possessed by demons
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"verovala da je opsednuta demonima
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and switched to mouthwash for her oral care."
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i počela je umesto paste da koristi tečnost za ispranje usta"
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It's so sad.
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Tužno.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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I interviewed, when I was working on the book,
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Kada sam radila na knjizi, intervjuisala sam ženu
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I interviewed a woman who can think herself to orgasm.
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koja je mogla dovesti sebe do orgazma samo razmišljanjem.
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She was part of a study at Rutgers University.
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Ona je bila deo istraživanja na Rutgers Univerzitetu.
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You gotta love that. Rutgers.
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Morate ga voleti. Rutgers.
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So I interviewed her in Oakland,
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Dakle, intervjuisala sam je u Oklandu,
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in a sushi restaurant.
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u suši restoranu.
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And I said, "So, could you do it right here?"
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Pitala sam je, "I, možete li da uradite to ovde?"
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And she said, "Yeah, but you know I'd rather finish my meal if you don't mind."
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Odgovorila je, "Da, ali radije bih prvo završila sa jelom, ako nemate ništa protiv."
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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But afterwards she was kind enough to demonstrate
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Ali kasnije je bila dovoljno ljubazna da mi to demonstrira
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on a bench outside.
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napolju na klupi.
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It was remarkable. It took about one minute.
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Bilo je izvanredno. Trajalo je oko minut.
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And I said to her,
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Pitala sam je,
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"Are you just doing this all the time?"
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"Da li radite samo ovo non-stop?"
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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She said, "No. Honestly when I get home I'm usually too tired."
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Odgovorila je, "Ne. Iskreno, kada stignem kući obično sam suviše umorna."
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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She said that the last time she had done it
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Rekla mi je da je poslednji put to uradila
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was on the Disneyland tram.
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u voziću u Diznlendu.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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The headquarters for orgasm, along the spinal nerve,
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Centrar za orgazam, uz kičmenu moždinu
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is something called the sacral nerve root, which is back here.
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je nešto što se zove koren sakralnog nerva. Ovde nazad.
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And if you trigger, if you stimulate with an electrode,
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Ako elektrodom nadražimo pravu tačku,
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the precise spot, you will trigger an orgasm.
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izazvaćete orgazam.
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And it is a fact that you can trigger spinal reflexes
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Činjenica da se refleksne radnje
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in dead people --
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mogu izazvati i kod mrtvih ljudi.
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a certain kind of dead person, a beating-heart cadaver.
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Posebna vrsta mrtvih ljudi: kadaveri kojima srce još uvek radi.
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Now this is somebody who is brain-dead,
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Njima je mozak mrtav,
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legally dead, definitely checked out,
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zakonski su mrtvi, definitivno,
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but is being kept alive on a respirator,
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ali ih održavaju u životu na respiratoru
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so that their organs will be oxygenated
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tako da su organi živi
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for transplantation.
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kako bi organi mogli da se presade.
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Now in one of these brain-dead people,
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Kada se takvom čoveku
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if you trigger the right spot,
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nadraži određena tačka
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you will see something every now and then.
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ponekad se desi jedan pokret.
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There is a reflex called the Lazarus reflex.
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Taj refleks se zove Lazarov refleks.
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And this is -- I'll demonstrate as best I can, not being dead.
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I to je -- Probaću da pokažem najbolje što mogu, s obzirom da nisam mrtva.
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It's like this. You trigger the spot.
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To izgleda ovako. Nadražite tačku.
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The dead guy, or gal, goes ... like that.
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A mrtvac uradi... ovako.
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Very unsettling for people working in pathology labs.
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Prilično uznemirujuće za ljude koji rade na patologiji.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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Now if you can trigger the Lazarus reflex in a dead person,
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I sad, ako možemo podstaknuti Lazarov refleks kod mrtvaca,
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why not the orgasm reflex?
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zašto ne bismo mogli i refleks orgazma?
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I asked this question to a brain death expert,
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Postavila sam ovo pitanje ekspertu za moždanu smrt,
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Stephanie Mann, who was foolish enough to return my emails.
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Stefani Man, koja je bila dovoljno luckasta da mi odgovori na imejlove.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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I said, "So, could you conceivably
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Pitala sam je: "Može li se
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trigger an orgasm in a dead person?"
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izazvati orgazam kod mrtve osobe?"
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She said, "Yes, if the sacral nerve is being oxygenated,
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Odgovorila je: "Da, ako do sakralnog nerva dolazi kiseonik.
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you conceivably could."
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jasno je da bi to bilo moguće"
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Obviously it wouldn't be as much fun for the person.
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Očito ne bi bilo previše zabavno mrtvoj osobi.
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But it would be an orgasm --
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Ali svejedno bi to bio --
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(Laughter)
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(smeh)
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nonetheless.
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orgazam,
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I actually suggested to -- there is a researcher at the University of Alabama
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Istraživačici na Univerzitetu Alabama
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who does orgasm research.
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koja se bavi istraživanjem orgazma,
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I said to her, "You should do an experiment.
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rekla sam: "Trebalo bi da napraviš eksperiment.
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You know? You can get cadavers if you work at a university."
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Znaš, možeš da nabaviš leš budući da radiš na Univerzitetu.
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I said, "You should actually do this."
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Stvarno bi trebalo da uradiš to."
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She said, "You get the human subjects review board approval for this one."
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Odgovorila mi je: "Onda ti pribavi odobrenje odbora koji razmatra eksperimente na ljudima."
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(Laughter)
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(smeh)
05:40
According to 1930s marriage manual author,
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Prema autoru uputstva za upotrebu braka iz tridesetih,
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Theodoor van de Velde,
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Teodoru Van de Veldeu,
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a slight seminal odor can be detected on the breath of a woman
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blagi miris sperme može se primetiti u zadahu žene
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within about an hour after sexual intercourse.
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u trajanju od sat vremena posle seksualnog odnosa.
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Theodoor van de Velde was something of a semen connoisseur.
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On je bio svojevrsni poznavalac sperme.
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(Laughter)
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(smeh)
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This is a guy writing a book, "Ideal Marriage," you know.
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On je, znate, napisao knjigu "Idealni brak".
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Very heavy hetero guy.
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Vrlo heteroseksualni tip.
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But he wrote in this book, "Ideal Marriage" --
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Ali je u knjizi "Idealni brak" napisao,
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he said that he could differentiate between the semen of a young man,
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da može razlikovati spermu mladića,
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which he said had a fresh, exhilarating smell,
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za koju kaže da ima svež, živahan miris
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and the semen of mature men,
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i spermu zrelog muškarca
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whose semen smelled quote,
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koja miriše, citiram:
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"Remarkably like that of the flowers of the Spanish chestnut.
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"Upečatljivo slično cvetu španskog kestena.
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Sometimes quite freshly floral,
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Ponekad prilično sveže, cvetno,
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and then again sometimes extremely pungent."
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a ponekad vrlo oporo."
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(Laughter)
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(smeh)
06:30
Okay. In 1999, in the state of Israel,
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Godine 1999. u Izraelu je
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a man began hiccupping.
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jedan čovek počeo da štuca.
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And this was one of those cases that went on and on.
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I to je bio jedan od onih slučajeva koji nije mogao da prestane.
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He tried everything his friends suggested.
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Pokušao je sve što su mu prijatelji predložili.
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Nothing seemed to help.
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I ništa nije pomoglo.
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Days went by. At a certain point, the man,
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Dani su prolazili. U jednom trenutku,
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still hiccupping, had sex with his wife.
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i dalje štucajući, imao je seks sa svojom ženom.
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And lo and behold, the hiccups went away.
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I, na opšte čuđenje, štucanje je prestalo.
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He told his doctor, who published a case report
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Rekao je to svom lekaru, a ovaj je to objavio
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in a Canadian medical journal under the title,
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u kanadskom medicinskom časopisu, sa naslovom
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"Sexual Intercourse as a Potential Treatment
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"Seksualni odnos kao potencijalni lek
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for Intractable Hiccups."
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za nezaustavljivo štucanje".
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I love this article because at a certain point they suggested
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Volim taj članak jer na jednom mestu predlaže
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that unattached hiccuppers could try masturbation.
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da oni koji štucaju, a nisu u vezi mogu probati da masturbiraju kako bi štucanje zaustavili.
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(Laughter)
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(smeh)
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I love that because there is like a whole demographic: unattached hiccuppers.
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Postoji cela demografska podgrupa. Oni koji štucaju a nisu u vezi.
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(Laughter)
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(smeh)
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Married, single, unattached hiccupper.
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Oženjeni. Samci. Oni koji nisu u vezi.
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In the 1900s, early 1900s
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S početka dvadesetog veka
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gynecologists, a lot of gynecologists believed
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mnogi ginekolozi su verovali
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that when a woman has an orgasm
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da kada žena doživi orgazam
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the contractions serve to suck the semen up through the cervix
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dešavaju se kontrakcije koje služe da se sperma usisa do grlića materice
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and sort of deliver it really quickly to the egg,
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i na taj način se brzo isporuči do jajašca.
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thereby upping the odds of conception.
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Tako se povećava šansa oplodnje.
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It was called the "upsuck" theory.
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To je nazvano teorijom "usisavanja".
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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If you go all the way back to Hippocrates,
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Ako se vratimo sve to Hipokrata,
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physicians believed that orgasm in women was not just
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lekari su verovali da ženski orgazam nije samo pomagao
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helpful for conception, but necessary.
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da se lakše začne, već je bio neophodan.
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Doctors back then were routinely telling men
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Lekari su u to vreme rutinski govorili muškarcima
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the importance of pleasuring their wives.
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koliko je važno da zadovolje svoje žene.
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Marriage-manual author and semen-sniffer
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Autor uputstva za upotrebu braka i njuškač sperme
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Theodoor van de Velde --
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Teodor Van de Velde
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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has a line in his book.
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kaže na jednom mestu u svojoj knjizi.
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I loved this guy. I got a lot of mileage out of Theodoor van de Velde.
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Obožavala sam ga, mnogo materijala sam pokupila od Teodora Van de Veldea.
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He had this line in his book
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Dakle, on kaže u knjizi,
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that supposedly comes from the Habsburg Monarchy,
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što verovatno dolazi iz Habsburške monarhije,
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where there was an empress Maria Theresa,
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u vreme kada je vladala Marija Terezija,
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who was having trouble conceiving.
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koja je imala problema da ostane u drugom stanju.
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And apparently the royal court physician said to her,
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I izgleda da joj je dvorski lekar rekao,
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"I am of the opinion
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"Moje mišljenje je
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that the vulva of your most sacred majesty
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da vulva vašeg kraljevskog visočanstva
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be titillated for some time prior to intercourse."
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mora da bude prijatno uzbuđena rukom neposredno pre polnog odnosa."
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
08:36
It's apparently, I don't know, on the record somewhere.
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Pretpostavljam da je to negde i zabeleženo.
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Masters and Johnson: now we're moving forward to the 1950s.
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Masters i Džonson: sada se selimo napred u pedesete
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Masters and Johnson were upsuck skeptics,
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Masters i Džonson su bili skeptici po pitanju usisavanja.
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which is also really fun to say.
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Što je takođe zabavno reći.
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They didn't buy it.
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Oni nisu nasedali na to.
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And they decided, being Masters and Johnson,
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I odlučili su,
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that they would get to the bottom of it.
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da će ispitati to do kraja.
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They brought women into the lab -- I think it was five women --
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Doveli su žene u laboratoriju. Mislim pet žena.
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and outfitted them with cervical caps
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I opremili ih cervikalnih kapama.
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containing artificial semen.
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koje su sadržale veštačku spermu.
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And in the artificial semen
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I u veštačkoj spermi
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was a radio-opaque substance,
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bila je radio-neprozirna supstanca
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such that it would show up on an X-ray.
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koja se mogla videti na rentgenu.
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This is the 1950s.
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Ovo je bilo pedesetih.
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Anyway these women sat in front of an X-ray device.
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Ove žene su sele ispred rentgen aparata.
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And they masturbated.
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I masturbirale su.
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And Masters and Johnson looked to see if the semen was being sucked up.
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A Masters i Džonson su pratili da li je sperma bila usisana.
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Did not find any evidence of upsuck.
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Nisu pronašli nikakav dokaz usisavanja.
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You may be wondering, "How do you make artificial semen?"
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Možda se pitate: "Kako se može napraviti veštačka sperma?"
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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I have an answer for you. I have two answers.
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Imam odgovor za vas. Imam dva odgovora.
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You can use flour and water, or cornstarch and water.
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Možete koristiti brašno i vodu, ili kukuruzni škrob i vodu
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I actually found three separate recipes in the literature.
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U stvari, našla sam tri različita recepta u literaturi.
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(Laughter)
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My favorite being the one that says --
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Moj omiljeni je jedan koji kaže --
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you know, they have the ingredients listed,
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znate, oni imaju nabrojane sastojke,
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and then in a recipe it will say, for example,
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i onda u receptu kažu, na primer,
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"Yield: two dozen cupcakes."
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"Za 20 kolačića"
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This one said, "Yield: one ejaculate."
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U ovom receptu piše: "Za jedan ejakulat."
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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There's another way that orgasm might boost fertility.
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Postoji drugi način na koji orgazam može da poboljša plodnost.
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This one involves men.
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Uključuje muškarce.
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Sperm that sit around in the body for a week or more
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Sperma koja stoji u telu nedelju dana ili više
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start to develop abnormalities
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postaje abnormalna
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that make them less effective at head-banging their way
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što je čini manje efektivnom u traženju svog puta
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into the egg.
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do jajašca.
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British sexologist Roy Levin
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Roj Levin, britanski seksolog
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has speculated that this is perhaps why men
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je spekulisao da je ovo mogući razlog što
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evolved to be such enthusiastic and frequent masturbators.
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su muškarci toliko entuzijastični i redovni masturbatori.
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He said, "If I keep tossing myself off
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On je rekao, "Ako se redovno praznim
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I get fresh sperm being made."
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proizvodim svežu spermu."
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Which I thought was an interesting idea, theory.
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To mi izgleda kao zanimljiva ideja, teorija.
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So now you have an evolutionary excuse.
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Tako sada postoji i izgovor koji se poziva na evoluciju.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
10:34
Okay.
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(Dobro.)
10:37
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
10:39
Alrighty. There is considerable evidence for upsuck in the animal kingdom --
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Dobro. Ovde imamo neke dokaze za usisavanje u životinjskom carstvu.
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pigs, for instance.
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Svinje, na primer.
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In Denmark, the Danish National Committee for Pig Production
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U Danskoj, u danskom Nacionalnom komitetu za proizvodnju svinja
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found out that if you
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otkriveno je da ako
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sexually stimulate a sow while you artificially inseminate her,
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seksualno stimulišete krmaču dok je veštačkim putem osemenjavate,
10:56
you will see a six-percent increase in the farrowing rate,
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desiće se napredak od šest odsto kod količine prasića,
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which is the number of piglets produced.
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u broju prasića koji su se rodili.
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So they came up with this plan, this five-point stimulation plan
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Tako su oni izneli ovaj plan. Plan stimulacije u pet tačaka
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for the sows.
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za krmače.
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And they had the farmers -- there is posters they put in the barn,
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I imali su farmere -- postoje posteri koje su stavili u svinjce,
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and they have a DVD.
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i dividijevi.
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And I got a copy of this DVD.
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Dobila sam primerak tog dividija.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
11:15
This is my unveiling, because I am going to show you a clip.
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I sada ću ga prikazati. Pokazaću vam video klip.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
11:21
So uh, okay.
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U redu.
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Now here we go in to the -- la la la, off to work.
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Idemo dakle -- tra, la, la, na posao.
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It all looks very innocent.
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Ovo izgleda veoma nevino.
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He's going to be doing things with his hands
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On će svojim rukama raditi stvari
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that the boar would use his snout, lacking hands. Okay.
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za koje bi vepar koristio njušku, u nedostatku ruku. Dobro.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
11:38
This is it. The boar has a very odd courtship repertoire.
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To je to. Vepar ima veoma čudan repertoar za udvaranje.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
11:47
This is to mimic the weight of the boar.
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Ovo je da bi se dočarala težina vepra.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
11:52
You should know, the clitoris of the pig, inside the vagina.
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Trebalo bi da znate, klitoris svinje je u unutrašnjosti vagine.
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So this may be sort of titillating for her. Here we go.
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Pa bi ovo mogao biti način da se ona prijatno uzbudi.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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And the happy result.
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I, evo i srećnog rezultata.
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(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
12:24
I love this video.
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Obožavam ovaj video.
12:26
There is a point in this video, towards the beginning
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Postoji deo u ovom videu, na početku
12:28
where they zoom in for a close up of his hand with his wedding ring,
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gde je u krupnom planu njegova ruka sa burmom,
12:30
as if to say, "It's okay, it's just his job. He really does like women."
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kao da hoće da kažu: "To je u redu, to je samo njegov posao. Njemu se zaista sviđaju žene".
12:35
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
12:39
Okay. Now I said -- when I was in Denmark, my host was named Anne Marie.
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U redu. Kada sam bila u Danskoj, moj domaćin bila je Ana Mari.
12:42
And I said, "So why don't you just stimulate the clitoris of the pig?
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Rekla sam: "I, zašto jednostavno ne stimulišete klitoris svinje?"
12:48
Why don't you have the farmers do that?
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Zašto nemate farmere da to rade.
12:50
That's not one of your five steps."
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To nije jedan od vaših pet koraka."
12:52
She said -- I have to read you what she said, because I love it.
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Rekla je -- Moram da pročitam šta je rekla jer mi se mnogo sviđa.
12:54
She said, "It was a big hurdle
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"Bilo je teškoća
12:56
just to get farmers to touch underneath the vulva.
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i samo ubediti farmere da dodirnu ispod vulve.
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So we thought, let's not mention the clitoris right now."
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Pa smo mislili da je bolje da ne pominjemo sada još i klitoris.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
13:07
Shy but ambitious pig farmers, however, can purchase a -- this is true --
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Stidljivi ali ambiciozni farmeri, pak, mogu kupiti -- ovo je istina--
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a sow vibrator,
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vibrator za krmaču,
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that hangs on the sperm feeder tube to vibrate.
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koji se ugradi na cev za dovod sperme.
13:14
Because, as I mentioned,
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Jer, kao što sam pomenula,
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the clitoris is inside the vagina.
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klitoris je unutar vagine.
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So possibly, you know, a little more arousing than it looks.
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Pa verovatno, znate, više je uzbuđujuće nego što izgleda.
13:22
And I also said to her,
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Takođe sam joj rekla,
13:24
"Now these sows. I mean, you may have noticed there,
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"Možda ste primetili da ove krmače,
13:26
The sow doesn't look to be in the throes of ecstasy."
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baš ne izgledaju kao da su u agoniji od uzbuđenja."
13:29
And she said, you can't make that conclusion,
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A ona je odgovorila, "Ne možete to zaključiti."
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because animals don't register
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Jer životinje ne pokazuju
13:34
pain or pleasure on their faces in the same way that we do.
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bol ili užitak na svojim licima, na način na koji mi to radimo.
13:36
They tend to -- pigs, for example, are more like dogs.
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Svinje, na primer, slično kao i psi,
13:40
They use the upper half of the face; the ears are very expressive.
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koriste gornju polovinu lica. Uši su veoma izražajne.
13:43
So you're not really sure what's going on with the pig.
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Tako da niste zaista sigurni šta se dešava sa svinjom.
13:46
Primates, on the other hand, we use our mouths more.
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Primati, s druge strane, koriste više usta.
13:50
This is the ejaculation face of the stump-tailed macaque.
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Ovo je lice makaki majmuna prilikom ejakulacije.
13:54
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
13:56
And, interestingly, this has been observed in female macaques,
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I, interesantno, ovo je primećeno kod ženke makaki majmuna.
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but only when mounting another female.
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Ali samo kada uzjaše drugu ženku.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
14:07
Masters and Johnson, in the 1950s, they decided,
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Masters i Džonson su pedesetih godina odlučili,
14:09
okay, we're going to figure out the entire human sexual response cycle,
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u redu, mi ćemo da razotkrijemo ceo ciklus ljudske seksualne reakcije.
14:14
from arousal, all the way through orgasm, in men and women --
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Od uzbuđenja, preko orgazma, kod muškaraca i žena.
14:17
everything that happens in the human body.
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Sve što se dešava u ljudskom telu.
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Okay, with women, a lot of this is happening inside.
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U redu, sa ženama se dosta toga dešava unutra.
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This did not stop Masters and Johnson.
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To nije zaustavilo Mastersa i Džonsona.
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They developed an artificial coition machine.
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Napravili su mašinu za seksualni odnos.
14:29
This is basically a penis camera on a motor.
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Ovo je u stvari kamera u obliku penisa na motoru.
14:32
There is a phallus,
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Tamo je falus,
14:34
clear acrylic phallus, with a camera and a light source,
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plastični falus, sa kamerom i osvetljenjem
14:37
attached to a motor that is kind of going like this.
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priključen na motor koji se ovako nekako kreće.
14:40
And the woman would have sex with it.
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I žena bi imala seks sa tim.
14:43
That is what they would do. Pretty amazing.
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To su radili. Prilično neverovatno.
14:45
Sadly, this device has been dismantled.
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Nažalost, ovaj uređaj je razmontiran.
14:47
This just kills me, not because I wanted to use it --
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To me ubija. Ne zato što sam htela da ga koristim.
14:49
I wanted to see it.
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Htela sam da ga vidim.
14:52
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
14:55
One fine day
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Jednog lepog dana
14:58
Alfred Kinsey decided
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Alfred Kinsi je odlučio
15:01
to calculate the average distance traveled by ejaculated semen.
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da izračuna prosečnu razdaljinu koju pređe ejakulirana sperma.
15:06
This was not idle curiosity.
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Ovo nije bila zaludna radoznalost.
15:08
Doctor Kinsey had heard --
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Dokrot Kinsi je čuo --
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and there was a theory kind of going around at the time, this being the 1940s --
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i zaista postojala je teorija aktuelna u to vreme, početkom četrdesetih,
15:15
that the force with which
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da je snaga kojom
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semen is thrown against the cervix
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je sperma bačena u pravcu grlića materice
15:19
was a factor in fertility.
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bio faktor plodnosti.
15:22
Kinsey thought it was bunk, so he got to work.
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Kinsi je mislio da je to glupost, pa se bacio na posao.
15:25
He got together in his lab
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Sakupio je u svojoj laboratoriji
15:28
300 men, a measuring tape, and a movie camera.
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300 muškaraca, metar i filmsku kameru.
15:33
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
15:35
And in fact he found
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I zaista, otkrio je
15:37
that in three quarters of the men
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da je kod tri četvrtine muškaraca
15:40
the stuff just kind of slopped out.
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stvar samo iskliznula napolje.
15:42
It wasn't spurted or thrown or ejected under great force.
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Nije ubrizgana ili izbačena sa velikom snagom.
15:46
However, the record holder
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Iako je rekorderova
15:50
landed just shy of the eight-foot mark, which is impressive.
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bila prizemljena na skoro dva i po metra udaljenosti. Što je impresivno.
15:52
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
15:54
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
15:55
Yes. Exactly.
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Da. Tačno.
15:57
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
15:58
Sadly, he's anonymous. His name is not mentioned.
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Nažalost, ostao je anoniman. Njegovo ime nije pomenuto.
16:01
In his write-up,
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U svom zapisu
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in his write-up of this experiment in his book,
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o ovom eksperimentu u svojoj knjizi,
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Kinsey wrote,
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Kinsi je napisao,
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"Two sheets were laid down to protect the oriental carpets."
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"Dva čaršava su postavljena dole da zaštite orijentalne tepihe."
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
16:16
Which is my second favorite line
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Što je moj drugi omiljeni citat.
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in the entire oeuvre of Alfred Kinsey.
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u čitavom opusu Alfreda Kinsija.
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My favorite being, "Cheese crumbs spread before a pair of copulating rats
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Moj omiljeni bio bi, "Mrvice sira koje se stave pred pacove u seksualnom odnosu
16:24
will distract the female, but not the male."
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će odvući pažnju ženke, ali ne i mužjaka."
16:27
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
16:29
Thank you very much.
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Hvala vam mnogo.
16:31
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
16:35
Thanks!
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Hvala!
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Mary Roach - WriterDeath, the afterlife, and now sex -- Mary Roach tackles the most pondered and least understood conundrums that have baffled humans for centuries. (She's funny, too.)
Why you should listen
Freelance writer and humorist turned accidental science journalist Mary Roach likes to ask the questions we all wonder about but are usually too polite to mention. What happens after we die, anyway? How fast do cadavers rot? Can a corpse have an orgasm?
Writing the Health & Body column for Salon.com quickened her interest in the dead -- that, and looking at the hit count for her columns on cadavers. Her books Stiff and Spook sprung out of research done for a proposed Salon column called the Dead Beat (sadly, it was killed). Her most recent book, Bonk, is a romp through the current landscape of gynecology, sex research and the adult novelty industry.
In addition to her dry (and sometimes silly) wit, Roach has a penchant for funny voices, faking her way through interviews with expert scientists, and wheedling her way into strange locales, among them a dildo factory and under the business end of an ultrasound wand during coitus.
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