ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Jarrell Daniels - Justice and education scholar, activist
Jarrell Daniels brings policy makers together with community members to improve social challenges, particularly among youth.

Why you should listen

Jarrell Daniels collaborates with policy makers, civil servants, academics and community organizers to create a new vision for the criminal legal system -- shaping policies that help individuals, families and communities thrive. At Columbia University, he is an Open Society Youth Activist Fellow, Justice-in-Education Scholar, program manager of the Justice Ambassadors Youth Council and a member of the Formerly Incarcerated Reintegration Science Training (FIRST) program. His primary focus is bringing policy makers together with community members to work across differences to improve social challenges, particularly among youth. In his work with young people, he explains  the extent to which mass incarceration and criminalization impacts minority communities.

Since his release from prison, Daniels has become a sought-after speaker on college campuses, sharing the experiences that led to his incarceration and introducing strategies to reduce incarceration and recidivism rates. His work focuses on changing the narrative of the criminal justice system from one that relies on punitive responses to one where justice and democracy is applied equally to all. As a result of his dedication to equal human rights, he became an Annie E. Casey Youth Advisory Council Member and serves as a youth advocate and peer mentor for Friends of the Island Academy. Daniels offers advice for justice-involved youth reemerging from Rikers Island and juvenile detention centers throughout New York City, as well as teens struggling to find social balance.

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Jarrell Daniels: What prosecutors and incarcerated people can learn from each other

Jarrell Daniels: O que promotores e detentos podem aprender uns com os outros?

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Algumas semanas antes de ser libertado da prisão, Jarrell Daniels teve uma aula em que detentos aprendiam ao lado de promotores. Simplesmente sentando juntos e conversando, eles descobriram verdades surpreendentes sobre o sistema de justiça criminal e ideias de como mudanças reais acontecem. Atualmente estudioso e ativista, Daniels reflete sobre como a educação colaborativa pode transformar o sistema de justiça e revelar soluções para problemas sociais.
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When I look in the mirror today,
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Quando me olho no espelho hoje,
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I see a justice and education scholar
at Columbia University,
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vejo um estudioso de justiça e educação
da Universidade Columbia,
00:20
a youth mentor, an activist
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um mentor de jovens, um ativista
e um futuro senador
do estado de Nova York.
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and a future New York state senator.
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(Cheering)
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(Vivas)
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I see all of that
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Vejo tudo isso
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and a man who spent
a quarter of his life in state prison --
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e um homem que passou um quarto
de sua vida em uma prisão estadual,
00:35
six years, to be exact,
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seis anos, para ser exato,
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starting as a teenager on Rikers Island
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começando como adolescente
em Rikers Island
00:40
for an act that nearly cost
a man his life.
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por um ato que quase custou
a vida de um homem.
00:44
But what got me from there to here
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Mas o que me trouxe de lá para cá
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wasn't the punishment I faced
as a teenager in adult prison
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não foi o castigo que enfrentei
quando adolescente na prisão adulta,
00:51
or the harshness of our legal system.
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nem a crueldade de nosso sistema jurídico.
00:54
Instead, it was a learning
environment of a classroom
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Em vez disso, foi um ambiente
de aprendizado de uma sala de aula
00:58
that introduced me to something
I didn't think was possible for me
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que me apresentou a algo que eu achava
que não era possível para mim
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or our justice system as a whole.
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ou para nosso sistema
de justiça como um todo.
01:05
A few weeks before my release on parole,
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Poucas semanas antes
de minha liberdade condicional,
01:07
a counselor encouraged me to enroll
in a new college course
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um conselheiro incentivou a me matricular
em um curso universitário novo
oferecido na prisão.
01:10
being offered in the prison.
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01:12
It was called Inside Criminal Justice.
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Chamava-se "Inside Criminal Justice".
01:14
That seems pretty
straightforward, though, right?
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Parece bastante simples, não é mesmo?
01:17
Well, it turns out,
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Acontece que a turma
seria composta por oito detentos
01:18
the class would be made up
of eight incarcerated men
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and eight assistant district attorneys.
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e oito promotores públicos assistentes.
A professora Geraldine Downey,
de psicologia, da Universidade Columbia,
01:25
Columbia University psychology
professor Geraldine Downey
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and Manhattan Assistant DA Lucy Lang
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e a promotora assistente
de Manhattan, Lucy Lang,
01:30
co-taught the course,
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davam o curso,
01:31
and it was the first of its kind.
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que era o primeiro do tipo.
01:34
I can honestly say
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Posso dizer sinceramente
01:36
this wasn't how I imagined
starting college.
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que não foi assim que imaginei
começar a faculdade.
01:39
My mind was blown from day one.
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Fiquei impressionado desde o início.
01:41
I assumed all the prosecutors
in the room would be white.
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Presumi que todos os promotores
da sala seriam brancos.
01:44
But I remember walking into the room
on the first day of class
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Mas lembro-me de entrar na sala
no primeiro dia de aula
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and seeing three black prosecutors
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e ver três promotores negros
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and thinking to myself,
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e pensar comigo mesmo:
01:51
"Wow, being a black prosecutor --
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"Uau!
Ser procurador negro...
01:54
that's a thing!"
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Que demais!"
01:56
(Laughter)
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(Risos)
02:00
By the end of the first session,
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No final da primeira sessão,
eu estava todo envolvido.
02:01
I was all in.
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02:03
In fact, a few weeks after my release,
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De fato, algumas semanas
após minha libertação,
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I found myself doing something
I prayed I wouldn't.
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eu me vi fazendo algo
que rezei para não fazer.
02:10
I walked right back into prison.
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Voltei à prisão.
02:13
But thankfully, this time
it was just as a student,
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Mas, felizmente, dessa vez,
foi apenas como aluno,
02:17
to join my fellow classmates.
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para me juntar a meus colegas de turma.
02:20
And this time,
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Dessa vez,
02:22
I got to go home when class was over.
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pude ir para casa ao término da aula.
02:26
In the next session, we talked
about what had brought each of us
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Na sessão seguinte,
falamos sobre o que trouxe cada um de nós
a esse momento da vida e à sala de aula.
02:29
to this point of our lives
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02:30
and into the classroom together.
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Por fim, fiquei bastante à vontade
para revelar a todos na sala a verdade
02:32
I eventually got comfortable enough
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to reveal my truth to everyone in the room
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02:35
about where I came from.
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sobre minhas origens.
02:38
I talked about how my sisters and I
watched our mother suffer years of abuse
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Falei sobre como minhas irmãs e eu
vimos nossa mãe sofrer anos de abuso
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at the hands of our stepfather,
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nas mãos de nosso padrasto,
02:47
escaping, only to find ourselves
living in a shelter.
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fugindo, só para nos encontrarmos
vivendo em um abrigo.
02:52
I talked about how I swore
an oath to my family
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Falei sobre como fiz um juramento
a meus familiares
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to keep them safe.
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para mantê-los seguros.
02:58
I even explained how I didn't feel
like a teenager at 13,
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Até expliquei como eu não me sentia
como um adolescente aos 13 anos,
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but more like a soldier on a mission.
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mas mais como um soldado em uma missão.
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And like any soldier,
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E, como qualquer soldado,
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this meant carrying an emotional
burden on my shoulders,
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isso significava carregar uma carga
emocional em meus ombros
03:10
and I hate to say it,
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e detesto dizer isso,
03:12
but a gun on my waist.
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mas uma arma em minha cintura.
03:15
And just a few days
after my 17th birthday,
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Apenas alguns dias após
meu aniversário de 17 anos,
03:17
that mission completely failed.
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essa missão fracassou completamente.
03:19
As my sister and I were walking
to the laundromat,
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Quando minha irmã e eu
estávamos indo à lavanderia,
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a crowd stopped in front of us.
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uma multidão parou à nossa frente.
03:24
Two girls out of nowhere
attacked my sister.
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Duas garotas atacaram minha irmã do nada.
03:27
Still confused about what was happening,
I tried to pull one girl away,
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Ainda confuso sobre o que estava
acontecendo, tentei afastar uma garota
03:30
and just as I did, I felt something
brush across my face.
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e, enquanto isso, senti algo
tocar meu rosto.
03:34
With my adrenaline rushing,
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Com minha adrenalina correndo,
03:36
I didn't realize a man
had leaped out of the crowd and cut me.
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não percebi que um homem
havia saltado da multidão e me cortado.
03:40
As I felt warm blood ooze down my face,
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Quando senti sangue quente
escorrendo pelo meu rosto,
03:44
and watching him raise
his knife toward me again,
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e o vi levantar a faca
em minha direção novamente,
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I turned to defend myself
and pulled that gun from my waistband
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virei para me defender,
puxei a arma da cintura
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and squeezed the trigger.
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e apertei o gatilho.
03:57
Thankfully, he didn't lose
his life that day.
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Felizmente, ele não perdeu
a vida naquele dia.
04:02
My hands shaking and heart racing,
I was paralyzed in fear.
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As mãos tremendo e o coração acelerado,
fiquei paralisado de medo.
04:06
From that moment,
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A partir daquele momento,
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I felt regret that would never leave me.
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senti um arrependimento
que nunca me deixaria.
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I learned later on they attacked my sister
in a case of mistaken identity,
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Mais tarde, soube que atacaram minha irmã
em um caso de erro de identidade,
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thinking she was someone else.
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pensando que ela fosse outra pessoa.
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It was terrifying,
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Foi aterrorizante,
04:21
but clear that I wasn't trained,
nor was I qualified,
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mas claro que não fui treinado,
nem estava qualificado
04:25
to be the soldier
that I thought I needed to be.
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para ser o soldado que eu achava
que precisava ser.
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But in my neighborhood,
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Mas, em meu bairro,
04:32
I only felt safe carrying a weapon.
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eu só me sentia seguro portando uma arma.
04:36
Now, back in the classroom,
after hearing my story,
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Agora, de volta à sala de aula,
depois de ouvir minha história,
04:39
the prosecutors could tell
I never wanted to hurt anyone.
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os promotores puderam dizer
que nunca quis ferir ninguém.
04:42
I just wanted us to make it home.
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Só queria que fôssemos para casa.
04:46
I could literally see the gradual change
in each of their faces
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Pude ver a mudança gradual
no rosto de cada um deles
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as they heard story after story
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conforme ouviam uma história após a outra
04:52
from the other incarcerated
men in the room.
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dos outros detentos na sala.
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Stories that have trapped many of us
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Histórias que prenderam muitos de nós
dentro do ciclo vicioso do encarceramento,
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within the vicious cycle of incarceration,
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that most haven't been able
to break free of.
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do qual a maioria não conseguiu se livrar.
05:04
And sure -- there are people
who commit terrible crimes.
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Com certeza, há pessoas
que cometem crimes terríveis.
05:09
But the stories
of these individuals' lives
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Mas as histórias de vida delas,
05:13
before they commit those acts
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antes de cometerem esses atos,
05:15
were the kinds of stories
these prosecutors had never heard.
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eram do tipo que os promotores
nunca tinham ouvido.
05:19
And when it was their turn
to speak -- the prosecutors --
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Quando chegou a vez deles falarem,
05:22
I was surprised, too.
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também fiquei surpreso.
05:24
They weren't emotionless
drones or robocops,
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Eles não eram drones,
nem "robocops" sem emoção,
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preprogrammed to send people to prison.
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pré-programados para mandar
pessoas para a prisão.
05:29
They were sons and daughters,
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Eram filhos e filhas,
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brothers and sisters.
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irmãos e irmãs,
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But most of all, they were good students.
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mas, acima de tudo, bons alunos.
05:38
They were ambitious and motivated.
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Eram ambiciosos e motivados
05:42
And they believed that they could use
the power of law to protect people.
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e acreditavam que poderiam usar
o poder da lei para proteger as pessoas.
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They were on a mission
that I could definitely understand.
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Eles estavam em uma missão
que eu, com certeza, conseguia entender.
05:52
Midway through the course,
Nick, a fellow incarcerated student,
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Na metade do curso, Nick,
um colega aluno detento,
expressou sua preocupação
de que os promotores
05:56
poured out his concern
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05:57
that the prosecutors were tiptoeing
around the racial bias and discrimination
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evitavam confrontar
o preconceito racial e a discriminação
06:01
within our criminal justice system.
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dentro de nosso sistema
de justiça criminal.
06:03
Now, if you've ever been to prison,
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Quem já esteve na prisão
06:05
you would know it's impossible
to talk about justice reform
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sabe que é impossível falar
sobre a reforma da justiça
06:08
without talking about race.
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sem falar de raça.
Então, vibramos em silêncio para o Nick
06:10
So we silently cheered for Nick
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06:12
and were eager to hear
the prosecutors' response.
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e estávamos ansiosos
pela resposta dos promotores.
06:14
And no, I don't remember who spoke first,
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Não me lembro de quem falou primeiro,
06:16
but when Chauncey Parker,
a senior prosecutor, agreed with Nick
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mas, quando Chauncey Parker,
promotor sênior, concordou com Nick
e disse que estava comprometido
06:21
and said he was committed to ending
the mass incarceration of people of color,
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a acabar com o encarceramento
em massa de pessoas de cor,
06:26
I believed him.
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acreditei nele.
06:28
And I knew we were headed
in the right direction.
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Eu sabia que estávamos
indo na direção certa.
06:32
We now started to move as a team.
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Agora começamos a nos mover
como uma equipe.
06:35
We started exploring new possibilities
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Começamos a explorar novas possibilidades
06:37
and uncovering truths
about our justice system
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e revelar verdades
sobre nosso sistema de justiça
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and how real change
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e como a mudança real
06:44
happens for us.
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acontece para nós.
06:46
For me, it wasn't the mandatory
programs inside of the prison.
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Para mim, não eram os programas
obrigatórios dentro da prisão.
06:52
Instead, it was listening
to the advice of elders --
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Em vez disso, era ouvir
o conselho dos mais velhos,
06:56
men who have been sentenced to spend
the rest of their lives in prison.
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homens condenados a passar
o resto da vida na prisão.
07:03
These men helped me reframe
my mindset around manhood.
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Esses homens me ajudaram a reformular
minha mentalidade sobre a vida adulta.
07:07
And they instilled in me
all of their aspirations and goals,
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Eles incutiram em mim
todas as aspirações e os objetivos deles,
07:11
in the hopes that I would never
return to prison,
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na esperança de que eu nunca
voltaria à prisão,
07:14
and that I would serve
as their ambassador to the free world.
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e que eu serviria como o embaixador
deles para o mundo livre.
07:19
As I talked, I could see the lights
turning on for one prosecutor,
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Enquanto eu falava, pude ver
a constatação de um promotor,
07:24
who said something I thought was obvious:
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que disse algo que achei óbvio:
07:27
that I had transformed
despite my incarceration
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que eu havia me transformado
apesar de meu encarceramento
07:31
and not because of it.
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e não por causa dele.
Estava claro que esses promotores
não pensavam muito
07:33
It was clear these prosecutors
hadn't thought much about
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sobre o que acontece conosco
após a condenação.
07:36
what happens to us
after they win a conviction.
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07:39
But through the simple process
of sitting in a classroom,
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Mas, pelo simples ato de se sentar
em uma sala de aula,
esses advogados começaram a ver
que o fato de nos manter presos
07:42
these lawyers started to see
that keeping us locked up
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07:45
didn't benefit our community
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não beneficiava nossa comunidade
07:48
or us.
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nem nós.
07:51
Toward the end of the course,
the prosecutors were excited,
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Próximo ao final do curso,
os promotores ficaram animados,
07:54
as we talked about our plans
for life after being released.
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quando falamos sobre nossos planos
para a vida depois de sermos libertados.
07:58
But they hadn't realized
how rough it was actually going to be.
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Mas eles não haviam percebido
como, na verdade, seria difícil.
08:02
I can literally still see the shock
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Ainda consigo ver o choque no rosto
de uma promotora assistente
08:04
on one of the junior
ADA's face when it hit her:
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quando se deu conta:
08:07
the temporary ID given to us
with our freedom
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a identidade temporária dada a nós
com nossa liberdade
08:10
displayed that we were
just released from prison.
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mostrava que acabávamos
de ser libertados da prisão.
Ela não havia imaginado
quantas barreiras isso criaria para nós
08:14
She hadn't imagined how many barriers
this would create for us
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as we reenter society.
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ao voltarmos para a sociedade.
08:20
But I could also see her genuine empathy
for the choice we had to make
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Mas eu também conseguia ver
a empatia sincera dela
pela escolha que tivemos que fazer
08:25
between coming home to a bed in a shelter
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entre voltar para casa
a uma cama em um abrigo
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or a couch in a relative's
overcrowded apartment.
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ou a um sofá no apartamento
superlotado de um parente.
08:36
What we learned in the class
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O que aprendemos na aula
08:38
worked its way into concrete
policy recommendations.
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funcionou para recomendações
de políticas concretas.
08:42
We presented our proposals
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Apresentamos nossas propostas
08:43
to the state Department
of Corrections commissioner
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ao comissário estadual
do Departamento de Correções
08:46
and to the Manhattan DA,
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e ao promotor público de Manhattan,
08:48
at our graduation in a packed
Columbia auditorium.
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em nossa formatura
num auditório lotado da Columbia.
08:53
As a team,
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Como equipe,
08:55
I couldn't have imagined
a more memorable way
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eu não poderia imaginar
um modo mais memorável
08:57
to conclude our eight weeks together.
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de concluir nossas oito semanas juntos.
09:00
And just 10 months
after coming home from prison,
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Apenas dez meses
após chegar em casa da prisão,
09:03
I again found myself in a strange room,
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eu me encontrei novamente
em uma sala estranha,
09:06
invited by the commissioner of NYPD
to share my perspective
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convidado pelo comissário
da polícia de Nova York
para compartilhar minha perspectiva
09:11
at a policing summit.
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em uma cúpula de policiamento.
09:13
And while speaking,
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Enquanto eu falava,
09:15
I recognized a familiar face
in the audience.
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reconheci um rosto familiar na plateia.
09:19
It was the attorney
who prosecuted my case.
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Era o advogado que havia
processado meu caso.
09:25
Seeing him,
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Ao vê-lo,
09:27
I thought about our days in the courtroom
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pensei em nossos dias no tribunal,
09:32
seven years earlier,
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sete anos atrás,
09:34
as I listened to him recommend
a long prison sentence,
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enquanto o ouvia recomendar
uma longa pena de prisão,
09:38
as if my young life was meaningless
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como se minha vida jovem
não tivesse sentido
09:41
and had no potential.
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nem potencial.
09:44
But this time,
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Mas, dessa vez,
09:46
the circumstances were different.
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as circunstâncias eram diferentes.
09:48
I shook off my thoughts
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Eu me livrei de meus pensamentos
09:51
and walked over to shake his hand.
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e me aproximei para apertar a mão dele.
09:54
He looked happy to see me.
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Ele parecia feliz em me ver.
09:56
Surprised, but happy.
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Surpreso, mas feliz.
10:01
He acknowledged how proud he was
about being in that room with me,
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Ele admitiu que estava orgulhoso
de estar naquela sala comigo,
e começamos a conversar
sobre trabalhar juntos
10:04
and we began a conversation
about working together
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para melhorar as condições
de nossa comunidade.
10:07
to improve the conditions
of our community.
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10:10
And so today,
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E hoje,
10:11
I carry all of these experiences with me,
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carrego todas essas experiências comigo,
10:14
as I develop the Justice Ambassadors
Youth Council at Columbia University,
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enquanto desenvolvo o "Justice Ambassadors
Youth Council" na Universidade Columbia,
10:18
bringing young New Yorkers -- some
who have already spent time locked up
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trazendo jovens nova-iorquinos,
alguns que já passaram um tempo presos
e outros ainda matriculados
no ensino médio,
10:22
and others who are still
enrolled in high school --
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junto com os funcionários da cidade.
10:24
together with city officials.
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Nessa sala de aula,
10:26
And in this classroom,
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10:28
everyone will brainstorm ideas
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todos irão propor ideias
10:30
about improving the lives
of our city's most vulnerable youth
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sobre como melhorar a vida dos jovens
mais vulneráveis da cidade
10:33
before they get tried
within the criminal justice system.
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antes de serem julgados
dentro do sistema de justiça criminal.
10:38
This is possible if we do the work.
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Isso é possível se fizermos o trabalho.
10:42
Our society and justice system
has convinced us
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Nosso sistema de justiça
e sociedade nos convenceu
10:46
that we can lock up our problems
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de que podemos trancar nossos problemas
10:48
and punish our way
out of social challenges.
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e forçar nosso caminho
por desafios sociais.
10:51
But that's not real.
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Mas isso não é real.
10:53
Imagine with me for a second
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Imaginem comigo por um instante
10:56
a future where no one can become
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um futuro em que ninguém possa se tornar
10:58
a prosecutor,
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promotor,
11:00
a judge,
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juiz,
11:02
a cop
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policial
11:03
or even a parole officer
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ou até mesmo oficial da condicional
11:05
without first sitting in a classroom
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sem primeiro se sentar em uma sala de aula
11:08
to learn from and connect with
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para aprender e se conectar
11:09
the very people whose lives
will be in their hands.
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com as próprias pessoas
cuja vida estará em suas mãos.
11:14
I'm doing my part to promote
the power of conversations
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Faço minha parte para promover
o poder das conversas
11:16
and the need for collaborations.
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e a necessidade de colaborações.
11:19
It is through education
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É por meio da educação
11:21
that we will arrive at a truth
that is inclusive and unites us all
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que chegaremos a uma verdade
que seja inclusiva e unificadora
11:25
in the pursuit of justice.
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na busca da justiça.
11:28
For me, it was a brand-new conversation
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Para mim, foi uma conversa totalmente nova
11:33
and a new kind of classroom
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e um tipo novo de sala de aula
11:36
that showed me how both my mindset
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que me mostrou como minha mentalidade
11:39
and our criminal justice system
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e nosso sistema de justiça criminal
11:41
could be transformed.
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poderiam ser transformados.
11:44
They say the truth shall set you free.
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Dizem que a verdade nos libertará.
11:49
But I believe
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Mas acredito
11:52
it's education
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que seja a educação
11:54
and communication.
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e a comunicação.
11:56
Thank you.
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Obrigado.
(Aplausos)
11:58
(Applause)
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(Vivas)
Translated by Maurício Kakuei Tanaka
Reviewed by Mario Gioto

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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Jarrell Daniels - Justice and education scholar, activist
Jarrell Daniels brings policy makers together with community members to improve social challenges, particularly among youth.

Why you should listen

Jarrell Daniels collaborates with policy makers, civil servants, academics and community organizers to create a new vision for the criminal legal system -- shaping policies that help individuals, families and communities thrive. At Columbia University, he is an Open Society Youth Activist Fellow, Justice-in-Education Scholar, program manager of the Justice Ambassadors Youth Council and a member of the Formerly Incarcerated Reintegration Science Training (FIRST) program. His primary focus is bringing policy makers together with community members to work across differences to improve social challenges, particularly among youth. In his work with young people, he explains  the extent to which mass incarceration and criminalization impacts minority communities.

Since his release from prison, Daniels has become a sought-after speaker on college campuses, sharing the experiences that led to his incarceration and introducing strategies to reduce incarceration and recidivism rates. His work focuses on changing the narrative of the criminal justice system from one that relies on punitive responses to one where justice and democracy is applied equally to all. As a result of his dedication to equal human rights, he became an Annie E. Casey Youth Advisory Council Member and serves as a youth advocate and peer mentor for Friends of the Island Academy. Daniels offers advice for justice-involved youth reemerging from Rikers Island and juvenile detention centers throughout New York City, as well as teens struggling to find social balance.

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