Tristan Harris: How better tech could protect us from distraction
טריסטן האריס: איך טכנולוגיה טובה יותר יכולה להגן עלינו מהסחות דעת
Tristan Harris helps the technology industry more consciously and ethically shape the human spirit and human potential. Full bio
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בצורה טובה?
יותר מדי אובססבי בנוגע לזה.
I probably obsess over it.
because these days,
בגלל שבימים אלה,
kind of slip away from me,
איכשהו חומקים ממני,
parts of my life are slipping away.
חלקים של חיי חומקים ממני.
of my time get slipped away
של הזמן שלי חומקים
an email like this, right?
what if it's a bad photo?
to click "See photo,"
is spend the next 20 minutes.
זה לבלות את 20 הדקות הבאות.
this is what's going to happen,
הוא שאני יודע שזה מה שיקרה,
that's what's going to happen
from doing it again the next time.
and I pull down to refresh,
why this is happening.
more money in the United States
and baseball combined?
amounts of money?
how this works -- and I'm a designer,
the psychology of this works,
איך הפסיכולוגיה של זה עובדת,
with this all-or-nothing relationship
עם יחסים של הכל או לא כלום
and distracted all the time,
a relationship with technology
about how we spend time with it,
לאיך אנחנו מבלים זמן איתה,
help from designers,
and she's working on a document,
for that document before I forget."
את המסמך הזה לפני שאשכח."
bulldozing each other's attention,
עוברים עם בולדוזר על תשומת הלב של אחרים,
we interrupt each other,
two different projects
דרך שני פרוייקטים
to the original thing we were doing.
לדבר המקורי שאנחנו עושים.
combined with Microsoft research,
משולב עם המחקר של מייקרוסופט,
that it actually trains bad habits.
שזה למעשה מאמן הרגלים רעים.
to interrupt ourselves.
every three-and-a-half minutes.
כל שלוש וחצי דקות,
all-or-nothing relationship.
Nancy again on the left,
"I need to send Nancy that document."
את המסמך הזה."
he has this thought,
before he forgets.
לפני שהוא ישכח.
so that Nancy can still focus,
off of his mind.
if one last thing is true,
that if something is truly important,
accidental or mindless interruptions,
או חסרות משמעות,
conscious interruptions,
for both Nancy and John,
גם לננסי וגם לג'ון.
we're doing here, too.
the question we're answering.
שאנחנו עונים עליה.
to send a message" --
שזה יהיה קל לשלוח הודעה" --
a message to someone --
deeper and a human value,
למשהו עמוק וערך אנושי,
possible quality communication
באיכות הגבוהה ביותר
actually care about this?
about what these deeper human goals are?
בונגע למה הן המטרות האנושיות העמוקות?
designers and Thich Nhat Hanh.
וטיק נהט האן.
spokesperson for mindfulness meditation.
למדיטציה מודעת.
you have a bunch of tech geeks;
יש לכם קבוצה של טכנולוגים גיקים;
shaved heads, Buddhist monks.
עם גלימות חומות ארוכות, וראשים מגולחים.
the deepest human values,
of technology look like
for the deepest questions
on listening more deeply
that might be accidentally abrasive --
שאולי תהיה במקרה פוגעת --
happen in the real world,
Couchsurfing is a website
who are looking for a place to stay
who's trying to offer it.
for if you work at Couchsurfing?
it's to match guests with hosts.
שזה כדי להתאים אורחים למארחים.
our goal with messaging before,
למסרים לפני כן,
to deliver a message.
positive experiences and relationships
about this was in 2007,
a corresponding measurement
those two people spent together,
ששני האנשים האלה מבלים יחד,
hours were in those days --
those two people spend together?
that time together,
with this person that you met?
עם האדם איתו נפגשתם?
from those positive hours
people spent on the website,
orchestrated conviviality,"
כ"חברותיות מתוזמרת נטו,"
"Good Times" created.
existed, had Couchsurfing not existed.
אם קאוצ'סרפינג לא היה קיים.
to come to work every day
זה יהיה להגיע לעבודה כל יום
of hours in people's lives
that would have never existed
about to do at work today?
that worked this way?
in terms of cooking nights organized
במונחים של ערבי בישול שאורגנו
that you were glad you read,
you weren't glad you read
שלא הייתם שמחים לקרוא
that you didn't like?
in terms of connections created
במונחים של קשרים שנוצרו
of the job offers that people got
של הצעות עבודה שאנשים קיבלו
people spent on the website.
of swipes left and right people did,
שמאלה וימינה שאנשים עשו,
fulfilling connections people created.
המספקים והרומנטיים שאנשים יצרו.
that worked this way,
עולם שלם שעובד כך,
אתם גם צריכים מערכת חדשה,
to value things a different way.
להעריך דברים בדרך אחרת.
just based on price;
רק בהתבסס על מחיר;
is a different kind of building
of environmental sustainability.
like that for technology?
whose entire purpose and goal
contributions to human life?
לחיים האנושיים?
value it a different way,
premium shelf space on app stores.
בחנויות אפליקציות.
that helped route you
to live and create that world?
לחיות וליצור את העולם הזה?
contribution to human life.
לחיים האנושיים.
conversation about that.
doing so well to start with,
you can redefine design.
אתם יכולים להגדיר מחדש עיצוב.
than many people in your organization
מהרבה אנשים בארגון שלכם
that all of us live by.
and this higher value
that works this way.
until the consumer demand was there.
עד שדרישת הצרכנים היתה שם.
until the consumer demand was there.
עד שהצרכנים דרשו שיהיה אותו שם.
this new kind of technology.
סוג חדש כזה של טכנולוגיה.
from a world that's driven and run
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Tristan Harris - Design thinkerTristan Harris helps the technology industry more consciously and ethically shape the human spirit and human potential.
Why you should listen
Tristan Harris has been called "the closest thing Silicon Valley has to a conscience" by The Atlantic magazine. Prior to founding the new Center for Humane Technology, he was Google's Design Ethicist, developing a framework for how technology should "ethically" steer the thoughts and actions of billions of people from screens.
Harris has spent a decade understanding the invisible influences that hijack human thinking and action. Drawing on literature from addiction, performative magic, social engineering, persuasive design and behavioral economics, he is currently developing a framework for ethical persuasion, especially as it relates to the moral responsibility of technology companies.
Rolling Stone magazine named Harris one of "25 People Shaping the World" in 2017. His work has been featured on TED, "60 Minutes," HBO's "RealTime with Bill Maher," "PBS NewsHour," Recode, The Atlantic, WIRED, the New York Times, Der Spiegel, The Economist and many more. Harris has briefed heads of state, technology company CEOs and members of the US Congress about the attention economy.
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