ABOUT THE SPEAKERS
Rebecca Newberger Goldstein - Philosopher and writer
Rebecca Newberger Goldstein writes novels and nonfiction that explore questions of philosophy, morality and being.

Why you should listen

In her latest book, Plato at the Googleplex: Why Philosophy Won't Go Away, Rebecca Newberger Goldstein makes the case for the importance of philosophy -- even as neuroscience tells us more about our brains, and connective technologies teach us more about the world around us. It's written in the form of a Socratic dialog, a form that Goldstein is passionate about teaching and exploring.

Meanwhile, her novels, from The Mind-Body Problem (Contemporary American Fiction) to 2011's 36 Arguments for the Existence of God: A Work of Fiction (Vintage Contemporaries), use techniques of fiction to untangle philosophical questions, such as: How should we balance heart and mind? What should we have faith in?

In 1996 Goldstein became a MacArthur Fellow, receiving the prize popularly known as the “Genius Award.” She was designated Humanist of the Year 2011 by the American Humanist Association. She's also the author of Betraying Spinoza: The Renegade Jew Who Gave Us Modernity, a combination memoir and history.

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Steven Pinker - Psychologist
Steven Pinker is a professor of cognitive science (the study of the human mind) who writes about language, mind and human nature.

Why you should listen

Steven Pinker grew up in the English-speaking community of Montreal but has spent his adult life bouncing back and forth between Harvard and MIT. He is interested in all aspects of human nature: how we see, hear, think, speak, remember, feel and interact.

To be specific: he developed the first comprehensive theory of language acquisition in children, used verb meaning as a window into cognition, probed the limits of neural networks and showed how the interaction between memory and computation shapes language. He has used evolution to illuminate innuendo, emotional expression and social coordination. He has documented historical declines in violence and explained them in terms of the ways that the violent and peaceable components of human nature interact in different eras. He has written books on the language instinct, how the mind works, the stuff of thought and the doctrine of the blank slate, together with a guide to stylish writing that is rooted in psychology.

In his latest book, Enlightenment Now: The Case for Reason, Science, Humanism, and Progress, he writes about progress -- why people are healthier, richer, safer, happier and better educated than ever. His other books include The Language InstinctHow the Mind Works, The Blank Slate: The Modern Denial of Human NatureThe Stuff of Thought, and The Better Angels of Our Nature.

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Steven Pinker and Rebecca Newberger Goldstein: The long reach of reason

Steven Pinker and Rebecca Newberger Goldstein: Dugi doseg razuma

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Ovo je prvi put na TED-u: animirani Sokratski dijalog! U vremenu kada je iracionalnost pravilo u politici i kulturi, jeli razumno razmišljanje napokon izgubilo snagu? Gledajte kako je Steven Pinker postupno, briljantno uvjeren od strane filozofa Rebecce Newberger Goldstein da je razum zapravo ključni pokretač moralnog napretka ljudi, iako su nekad potrebne generacije kako bi se otkrio. Dijalog je snimljen uživo na TED-u, i animiran, na čudesan, ponekad urnebesan način od strane Cognitive-a.
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Popularna kultura stvara nove
dubine gluposti
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i politički diskurs je postao utrka
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to the bottomdno.
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prema dnu.
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Živimo u eri znanstvene kreacije,
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9/11 conspiracyzavjera theoriesteorije, psychicvidovnjak hotlinesotvorene,
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teorije zavjere 9/11, vidovnjački telefoni,
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i ponovno pojavljivanje
religijskog fundamentalizma.
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People who think too well
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Ljudi koji razmišljaju isuviše dobro
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are oftenčesto accusedoptuženik of elitismelitizam,
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su često optuženi za elitizam,
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and even in the academyAkademija,
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i čak i na fakultetima,
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there are attacksnapadi on logocentrismlogocentrozmu,
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postoje napadi na logocentrizam,
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the crimekriminal of lettingiznajmljivanje logiclogika dominatedominirati our thinkingmišljenje.
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zločin dopuštanja da logika
dominira našim razmišljanjem.
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SPSP: But is this necessarilyobavezno a badloše thing?
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SP: Ali je li to nužno loša stvar?
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PerhapsMožda reasonrazlog is overratedprecijenjena.
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Možda je razum precijenjen.
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ManyMnogi punditsstručnjaci have arguedtvrdio that a good heartsrce
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Mnogi su tvrdili da dobro srce
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and steadfastuporan moralmoralan clarityjasnoća
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i ustrajna moralna jasnoća
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are superiorsuperioran to triangulationstriangulations
of overeducatedpreviše obrazovan policypolitika wonkswonks,
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odnose pobjedu nad triangulacijama
preeduciranih političkih luđaka,
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like the bestnajbolje and brightestnajsvjetliji and that draggedvukao us
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kao što je najbolji i najbistriji
i što nas je odvuklo
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into the quagmirekaljuža of VietnamVijetnam.
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u rat u Vijetnamu.
01:26
And wasn'tnije it reasonrazlog that gavedali us the meanssredstva
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I nije li razum ono što
nam je dalo sredstva
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to despoildespoil the planetplaneta
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da opljačkamo planet
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and threatenprijete our speciesvrsta with
weaponsoružje of massmasa destructionrazaranje?
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i zaprijetimo svojoj vrsti oružjim
za masovno uništenje?
01:32
In this way of thinkingmišljenje,
it's characterlik and consciencesavjest,
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U ovom načinu razmišljanja,
karakter i svijest,
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not cold-heartedhladno srce calculationračunanje, that will saveuštedjeti us.
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ne kalkuliranje, spašavaju nas.
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BesidesOsim toga, a humanljudski beingbiće is not a brainmozak on a stickštap.
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Osim toga, ljudsko biće nije mozak na štapu.
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My fellowkolega psychologistspsiholozi have shownprikazan that we're led
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Moji kolege psiholozi pokazali
su da smo vođeni
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by our bodiestjelesa and our emotionsemocije
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našim tijelima i emocijama
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and use our punyslabašan powerssile of reasonrazlog
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i koristimo naše majušne moći razuma
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merelysamo to rationalizeracionalizirati our gutcrijevo feelingsosjećaji after the factčinjenica.
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samo kako bismo
racionalizirali naše instiknte.
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RNGRNG: How could a reasonedzaključio
argumentargument logicallylogički entailza posljedicu
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RNG: Kako bi razumni argument
logično mogao zahtijevati
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the ineffectivenessneučinkovitosti of reasonedzaključio argumentsargumenti?
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neučinkovitost razumnih argumenata?
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Look, you're tryingtežak to persuadeuvjeriti
us of reason'srazlog je impotenceimpotencija.
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Dakle, pokušavaš nas
uvjeriti u impotenciju razuma.
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You're not threateningopasne po us or bribingpodmićivanje us,
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Ne prijetiš nam niti nas podmićuješ,
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suggestingsugerirajući that we resolveodlučnost the issueizdanje
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predlažući da riješimo problem
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with a showpokazati of handsruke or a beautyljepota contestNatjecanje.
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dizanjem ruku ili natjecanjem ljepote.
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By the very actčin of tryingtežak to
reasonrazlog us into your positionpoložaj,
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Samim činom da nas urazumiš u svoj položaj,
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you're concedingPriznajući reason'srazlog je potencypotencije.
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proglašavaš potenciju razuma neuspješnom.
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ReasonRazlog isn't up for grabsZgrabi here. It can't be.
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Razum nije nadohvat ruke. Ne može biti.
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You showpokazati up for that debatedebata
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Pojaviš se na toj debati
02:21
and you've alreadyveć lostizgubljen it.
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i već si ju izgubio.
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SPSP: But can reasonrazlog leaddovesti us in directionssmjerovi
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SP: Ali razum nas može voditi u smjerovima
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that are good or decentpristojan or moralmoralan?
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koji su dobri, pristojni ili moralni?
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After all, you pointedšiljast out that reasonrazlog
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Rečeno je da je razum
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is just a meanssredstva to an endkraj,
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samo sredstvo za postizanje cilja,
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and the endkraj dependsovisi on the reasoner'sReasoner je passionsstrasti.
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i da cilj ovisi o strastima
onoga koji razmišlja razumno.
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ReasonRazlog can laypoložiti out a roadcesta
mapkarta to peacemir and harmonysklad
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Razum može napraviti put do mira i sklada
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if the reasonerReasoner wants peacemir and harmonysklad,
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ako onaj koji urazumljuje želi to,
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but it can alsotakođer laypoložiti out a roadcesta
mapkarta to conflictsukob and strifesvađa
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ali također može napraviti
put do sukoba i razmirica
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if the reasonerReasoner delightsužitke in conflictsukob and strifesvađa.
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ako uživa u sukobu i razmiricama.
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Can reasonrazlog forcesila the reasonerReasoner to want
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Može li razum učiniti da želi
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lessmanje crueltyokrutnost and wastegubljenje?
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manje okrutnosti i rasipnosti?
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RNGRNG: All on its ownvlastiti, the answerodgovor is no,
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RNG: Sam po sebi, odgovor je ne,
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but it doesn't take much to switchprekidač it to yes.
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ali ne treba puno da se to promijeni u da.
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You need two conditionsUvjeti:
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Trebaš dva uvjeta:
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The first is that reasonersreasoners all carebriga
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Prvi je da svi koji misle razumno brinu
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about theirnjihov ownvlastiti well-beingblagostanje.
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za vlastitu dobrobit.
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That's one of the passionsstrasti that has to be presentpredstaviti
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To je jedna od strasti koja mora biti prisutna
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in ordernarudžba for reasonrazlog to go to work,
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da bi razum radio,
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and it's obviouslyočito presentpredstaviti in all of us.
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i to je očito prisutno u svima nama.
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We all carebriga passionatelystrasno
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Svi se strastveno brinemo
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about our ownvlastiti well-beingblagostanje.
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oko svoje dobrobiti.
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The seconddrugi conditionstanje is that reasonersreasoners
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Drugi uvjet je da oni koji urazumljuju
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are membersčlanovi of a communityzajednica of reasonersreasoners
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su članovi takve zajednice,
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who can affectutjecati one another'sdrugog well-beingblagostanje,
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koja može utjecati na međusobnu dobrobit,
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can exchangerazmjena messagesporuke,
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koja može razmjenjivati poruke,
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and comprehendshvatiti eachsvaki other'sdrugi reasoningrasuđivanje.
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i razumjeti vlastite razloge.
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And that's certainlysigurno truepravi of our gregariousdruštven
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I to je sigurno točno
vezano za naše društvene
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and loquatiousloquatious speciesvrsta,
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i govorljive vrste,
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well endowedobdarena with the instinctinstinkt for languagejezik.
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dobro obradene s instinktom za jezik.
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SPSP: Well, that soundszvukovi good in theoryteorija,
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SP:Pa, to sve dobro zvuči u teoriji,
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but has it workedradio that way in practicepraksa?
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ali je li tako radilo i u praksi?
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In particularposebno, can it explainobjasniti
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Može li objasniti
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a momentousvažan historicalpovijesni developmentrazvoj
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taj povijesni razvoj
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that I spokegovorio about fivepet yearsgodina agoprije here at TEDTED?
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o kojem sam pričao otprilike
prije pet godina na TED-u?
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NamelyNaime, we seemčiniti se to be gettinguzimajući more humanehuman.
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Postajemo sve humaniji.
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CenturiesStoljeća agoprije, our ancestorspreci would burnspaliti catsmačke aliveživ
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Stoljećima prije, naši preci
bi palili žive mačke
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as a formoblik of popularpopularan entertainmentZabava.
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kao oblik zabave.
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KnightsVitezovi wagedvodi constantkonstantno warrat on eachsvaki other
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Vitezovi su stalno ratovali
jedni s drugima
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by tryingtežak to killubiti as manymnogi of eachsvaki
other'sdrugi peasantsseljaci as possiblemoguće.
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pokušavajući ubiti što više seljaka.
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GovernmentsVlade executedizvršiti people for frivolousneozbiljan reasonsrazlozi,
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Vlade su pogubljivale ljude
zbog smiješnih razloga
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like stealingkrađa a cabbagekupus
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kao što je krađa kupusa
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or criticizingkritiziranja the royalkraljevski gardenvrt.
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ili kritiziranje kraljevskog vrta.
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The executionspogubljenja were designedkonstruiran to be as prolongeddugotrajno
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Pogubljenja su osmišljena da bi trajala
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and as painfulbolan as possiblemoguće, like crucifixionraspeće,
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što duže i bila što bolnija,
kao razapinjanje na križ,
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disembowelmentsrcai, breakinglom on the wheelkotač.
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vađenje crijeva, lomljenje na kotaču.
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RespectablePoštovana people keptčuva slavesroblje.
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Ugledni ljudi imali su robove.
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For all our flawsmane, we have abandonednapušten
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Za sve naše mane, napustili smo
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these barbaricBarbarić practicesprakse.
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te barbarske prakse.
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RNGRNG: So, do you think it's
humanljudski naturepriroda that's changedpromijenjen?
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RNG: Misliš da se
ljudska priroda promijenila?
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SPSP: Not exactlytočno. I think we still harborluka instinctsinstinkti
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SP: Ne baš. Mislim da imamo puno instinkta
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that can eruptbuknuti in violencenasilje,
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koji može eruptirati u nasilje,
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like greedpohlepa, tribalismtribalizam, revengeosveta, dominancedominacija, sadismsadizam.
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kao pohlepa, osveta, dominacija, sadizaim.
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But we alsotakođer have instinctsinstinkti that can steerkormilariti us away,
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Ali imamo instinkte i koji nas vode od toga,
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like self-controlSamo kontrola, empathysuosjecanje, a senseosjećaj of fairnesspravednost,
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kao samokontrola, empatija,
osjećaj za poštenje,
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what AbrahamAbraham LincolnLincoln calledzvao
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ono što je Abraham Lincoln nazvao
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the better angelsAnđeli of our naturepriroda.
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boljim anđelima naše prirode.
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RNGRNG: So if humanljudski naturepriroda didn't changepromijeniti,
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RNG: Ako se ljudska priroda nije promijenila,
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what invigoratedslabo those better angelsAnđeli?
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što je potaknulo te bolje anđele?
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SPSP: Well, amongmeđu other things,
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SP: Pa, između ostalog,
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our circlekrug of empathysuosjecanje expandedproširen.
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naš krug empatije se proširio.
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YearsGodine agoprije, our ancestorspreci would feel the painbol
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Mnogo godina prije,
naši preci bi osjećali bol
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only of theirnjihov familyobitelj and people in theirnjihov villageselo.
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samo njihove obitelji ili ljudi u selu.
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But with the expansionekspanzija of literacypismenost and travelputovati,
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Ali proširivanjem pismenosti i putovanja,
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people startedpočeo to sympathizesuosjećati
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ljudi su počeli suosjećati
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with wideršire and wideršire circleskrugovi,
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sa sve širim i širim krugovima,
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the clanklana, the tribepleme, the nationnarod, the raceutrka,
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klan, pleme, nacija, rasa,
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and perhapsmožda eventuallyeventualno, all of humanityčovječanstvo.
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i možda konačno, svo čovječanstvo.
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RNGRNG: Can hard-headedtvrdoglava scientistsznanstvenici
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RNG: Mogu li tvrdoglavi znanstvenici
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really give so much creditKreditna to soft-heartedmeka srca empathysuosjecanje?
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dati toliko kredita empatiji mekog srca?
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SPSP: They can and do.
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SP: Mogu i to čine.
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NeurophysiologistsNeurophysiologists have foundpronađeno neuronsneuroni in the brainmozak
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Neuropsiholozi pronašli su neurone u mozgu
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that respondodgovarati to other people'snarodno actionsakcije
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koji odgovaraju na akcije drugih ljudi
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the sameisti way they respondodgovarati to our ownvlastiti.
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na isti način na koji reagiraju na naše.
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EmpathyEmpatija emergesproizlazi earlyrano in life,
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Empatija se javlja rano u životu,
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perhapsmožda before the agedob of one.
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možda i prije prve godine života,
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BooksKnjiga on empathysuosjecanje have becomepostati bestsellersnajprodavanije,
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Knjige o empatiji postale su bestselleri,
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like "The EmpathicEmpatični CivilizationCivilizacije"
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kao "Suosjećajna Civilizacija"
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and "The AgeGodina starosti of EmpathyEmpatija."
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i "Razdoblje Empatije".
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RNGRNG: I'm all for empathysuosjecanje. I mean, who isn't?
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RNG: Ja sam za empatiju. Mislim, tko nije?
05:28
But all on its ownvlastiti, it's a feebleslab instrumentinstrument
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Ali samo za sebe, to je slabašan instrument
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for makingizrađivanje moralmoralan progressnapredak.
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za moralni napredak.
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For one thing, it's innatelyprirođeno biasedpristran
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Kao prvo, to je pristrano
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towardprema bloodkrv relationsodnosi, babiesbebe
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prema krvnom srodstvu, bebama
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and warmtoplo, fuzzynejasan animalsživotinje.
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i toplim, čupavim životinjama.
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As fardaleko as empathysuosjecanje is concernedzabrinut,
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Što se tiče suosjećanja,
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uglyružan outsidersautsajderi can go to hellpakao.
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ružni outsideri mogu ići kvragu.
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And even our bestnajbolje attemptspokušaji to work up sympathysimpatija
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I čak naši najbolji pokušaji
da stvorimo simpatije
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for those who are unconnectednepovezanih with us
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za one koji nisu povezani s nama
05:51
fallpad miserablyjadno shortkratak, a sadtužan truthistina about humanljudski naturepriroda
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su neuspješni, tužna
istina o ljudskoj prirodi
05:56
that was pointedšiljast out by AdamAdam SmithSmith.
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koju je prokazao Adam Smith.
05:58
AdamAdam SmithSmith: Let us supposepretpostaviti that the great empirecarstvo
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Adam Smith: Pretpostavimo
da veliko carstvo
06:00
of ChinaKina was suddenlyiznenada swallowedproguta
up by an earthquakepotres,
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Kine odjednom proguta potres,
06:02
and let us considerrazmotriti how a
man of humanityčovječanstvo in EuropeEurope
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i razmislimo kako čovjek iz Europe
06:05
would reactreagirati on receivingprimanje intelligenceinteligencija
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reagira na primanje informacija
06:07
of this dreadfulstrašan calamitynesreća.
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o ovoj strašnoj nesreći.
06:09
He would, I imaginezamisliti, first of all expressizraziti very stronglysnažno
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On bi, vjerujem, prvo snažno izrazio
06:11
his sorrowtuga for the misfortunenesreća of that unhappynesretan people.
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svoju tugu zbog nesreće
tih nesretnih ljudi.
06:14
He would make manymnogi melancholyMelankolija reflectionsrazmišljanja
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Sa sjetom bi se prisjećao
06:16
uponna the precariousnessprekarnosti of humanljudski life,
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krhkosti ljudskog života,
06:18
and when all these humanehuman sentimentsosjećaji
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i kada svi ovi ljudski osjećaji
06:20
had been oncejednom fairlypošteno expressedizrazio,
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jednom budu pošteno izraženi,
06:22
he would pursueprogoniti his businessPoslovni or his pleasurezadovoljstvo
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on bi išao svojim poslom ili zadovoljstvom
06:24
with the sameisti easeolakšati and tranquilitymir
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sa istom lakoćom i smirenošću
06:26
as if no suchtakav accidentnesreća had happeneddogodilo.
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kao da se takva nesreća nije dogodila.
06:28
If he was to loseizgubiti his little fingerprst tomorrowsutra,
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Ako bi izgubio prst sutra,
06:31
he would not sleepspavati tonightvečeras,
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ne bi spavao večeras,
06:32
but providedako he never saw them,
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ali da ih nikad nije vidio,
06:34
he would snorehrkati with the mostnajviše profounddubok securitysigurnosti
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hrkao bi sa najvećom smirenošću
06:36
over the ruinpropast of a hundredstotina millionmilijuna of his brethrenbraća.
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zbog uništenja sto milijuna svoje braće.
06:39
SPSP: But if empathysuosjecanje wasn'tnije enoughdovoljno
to make us more humanehuman,
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SP: Ali ako suosjećanje nije dovoljno
da nas učini ljudskijima,
06:42
what elsedrugo was there?
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što još imamo?
06:44
RNGRNG: Well, you didn't mentionspomenuti what mightmoć be
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RNG: Nisi spomenuo što bi moglo biti
06:46
one of our mostnajviše effectivedjelotvoran better angelsAnđeli: reasonrazlog.
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jedno od naših najučinkovitijih
boljih anđela: razum.
06:50
ReasonRazlog has musclemišić.
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Razum ima mišiće.
06:53
It's reasonrazlog that providespruža the pushgurnuti to widenproširiti
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Razum nam daje poticaj da širimo
06:56
that circlekrug of empathysuosjecanje.
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taj krug suosjećanja.
06:58
EverySvaki one of the humanitarianhumanitarac developmentsrazvoj
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Sav humanitarni razvoj
07:01
that you mentionedspominje originatednastao with thinkersmislioci
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koji si spomenuo potekao je od mislioca
07:04
who gavedali reasonsrazlozi for why some practicepraksa
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koji su dali razloge zašto su neke prakse
07:07
was indefensibleNeobranjiv.
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neobranjive.
07:09
They demonstratedpokazao that the way people treatedliječi
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Demonstrirali su da je
način na koji su ljudi tretirali
07:11
some particularposebno groupskupina of othersdrugi
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neku određenu grupu drugih ljudi
07:13
was logicallylogički inconsistentnedosljedan
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je logično nedosljedan
07:15
with the way they insistedinzistirao
on beingbiće treatedliječi themselvesse.
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naspram načina na koji su htjeli
da se prema njima odnosi.
07:18
SPSP: Are you sayingizreka that reasonrazlog
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SP: Želiš li reći da je razum
07:19
can actuallyzapravo changepromijeniti people'snarodno mindsmisli?
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ono što može promijeniti stav ljudi?
07:22
Don't people just stickštap with whateveršto god convictionuvjerenje
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Ne stoje li ljudi uz ona uvjerenja
07:24
servessluži theirnjihov interestsinteresi
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koja služe njihovim interesima
07:25
or conformsu skladu to the cultureKultura that they grewrastao up in?
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ili su prilagođena kulturi
u kojoj su odrasli?
07:28
RNGRNG: Here'sOvdje je a fascinatingfascinantan factčinjenica about us:
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RNG: Ovo je fascinantna činjenica o nama:
07:31
ContradictionsKontradikcije bothersmeta us,
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Kontradiktornosti nas smetaju,
07:33
at leastnajmanje when we're forcedprisiljeni to confrontsuočiti them,
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barem onda kada smo
prisiljeni prilagoditii im se,
07:35
whichkoji is just anotherjoš way of sayingizreka
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što je drugi način da kažemo
07:37
that we are susceptibleosjetljiv to reasonrazlog.
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da smo povodljivi za razumom.
07:40
And if you look at the historypovijest of moralmoralan progressnapredak,
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I ako pogledate povijest moralnog napretka,
07:43
you can tracetrag a directdirektno pathwaystaza
from reasonedzaključio argumentsargumenti
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možete pratiti direktan put
od razumnih argumenata
07:46
to changespromjene in the way that we actuallyzapravo feel.
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do promjena koje zaista osjećamo.
07:50
Time and again, a thinkermislilac would laypoložiti out an argumentargument
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Uvijek iznova, mislilac bi iznio argument
07:53
as to why some practicepraksa was indefensibleNeobranjiv,
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zašto je neka praksa neobranjiva,
07:57
irrationaliracionalan, inconsistentnedosljedan with valuesvrijednosti alreadyveć heldodržanog.
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neracionalna, nedosljedna
s postojećim vrijednostima.
08:02
TheirNjihova essayesej would go viralvirusni,
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Njihov esej bi postao viralan,
08:04
get translatedpreveo into manymnogi languagesjezici,
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preveden na mnoge jezike,
08:06
get debatedraspravlja at pubsbaza and coffeekava houseskuća and salonssaloni,
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o njemu bi se raspravljalo u
pubovima, kafićima i salonima
08:09
and at dinnervečera partiesstranke,
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na večerama,
08:11
and influenceutjecaj leadersčelnici, legislatorszakonodavci,
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i utjecao bi na vođe, zakonodavce,
08:15
popularpopularan opinionmišljenje.
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javno mišljenje.
08:16
EventuallyNa kraju theirnjihov conclusionszaključci get absorbedupijen
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S vremenom, njihovi
zaključci bi bili absorbirani
08:20
into the commonzajednička senseosjećaj of decencypristojnost,
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u zdrav razum pristojnosti,
08:22
erasingBrisanje the trackspjesme of the originalizvornik argumentargument
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brišući tragove originalne rasprave
08:25
that had gottendobivši us there.
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koja nas je tamo dovela.
08:27
FewNekoliko of us todaydanas feel any need to put forthdalje
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Malo nas danas ima potrebu pokrenuti
08:29
a rigorousrigorozan philosophicalfilozofski argumentargument
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žustru filozofsku raspravu
08:31
as to why slaveryropstvo is wrongpogrešno
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zašto je ropstvo pogrešno
08:34
or publicjavnost hangingszavjese or beatingbijenje childrendjeca.
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ili javna vješanja ili kada se tuče djecu.
08:37
By now, these things just feel wrongpogrešno.
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Te stvari su sada krive.
08:40
But just those argumentsargumenti had to be madenapravljen,
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Ali te su rasprave morale biti pokrenute,
08:43
and they were, in centuriesstoljeća pastprošlost.
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i bile su, u prošlim stoljećima.
08:46
SPSP: Are you sayingizreka that people neededpotreban
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SP: Govoriš li da su ljudi trebali
08:48
a step-by-stepkorak po korak argumentargument to graspshvatiti
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raspravu korak po korak da bi shvatili
08:50
why something mightmoć be a weeWee bitbit wrongpogrešno
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da je nešto mrvicu pogrešno
08:52
with burningspaljivanje hereticsheretika at the stakeulog?
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sa spaljivanjem nevjernika na lomači?
08:53
RNGRNG: Oh, they did. Here'sOvdje je the Frenchfrancuski theologianteolog
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RNG: O da. Ovdje je francuski teolog
08:56
SebastianSebastian CastellioCastellio makingizrađivanje the casespis.
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Sebastian Castello koji izlaže taj slučaj.
08:59
SebastianSebastian CastellioCastellio: CalvinCalvin sayskaže that he's certainsiguran,
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Sebastian Castello:
Calvin kaže da je siguran,
09:01
and other sectssekte say that they are.
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i druge sekte da jesu.
09:03
Who shalltreba be judgesuditi?
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Tko će prosuditi?
09:04
If the matterstvar is certainsiguran, to whomkome is it so? To CalvinCalvin?
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Ako je stvar sigurna,
kome je to tako? Kalvinu?
09:07
But then, why does he writepisati so
manymnogi booksknjige about manifestmanifestirati truthistina?
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Alo onda, zašto piše toliko
knjiga o manifestiranju istine?
09:10
In viewpogled of the uncertaintynesigurnost, we mustmora definedefinirati hereticsheretika
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Sa strane nesigurnosti,
moramo definirati heretike
09:12
simplyjednostavno as one with whomkome we disagreene slagati se.
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jednostavno kao nekog s kim se ne slažemo.
09:14
And if then we are going to killubiti hereticsheretika,
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A ako ćemo potom ubijati heretike,
09:16
the logicallogičan outcomeishod will be a warrat of exterminationistrebljenje,
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logični ishod je rat do istrebljenja,
09:18
sinceod eachsvaki is sure of himselfsam.
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budući da je svatko siguran u sebe.
09:20
SPSP: Or with hideousodvratan punishmentskazne
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SP: Ili s užasnim kaznama
09:22
like breakinglom on the wheelkotač?
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kao lomljenje na kotaču?
09:23
RNGRNG: The prohibitionzabrana in our constitutionustav
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RNG: Zabrana u ustavu
09:26
of cruelokrutan and unusualneuobičajen punishmentskazne
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koja kaže da nema
okrutne i neuobičajene kazne
09:28
was a responseodgovor to a pamphletpamflet circulatedkruži in 1764
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odgovor je na letak koji je kružio 1764.
09:32
by the Italiantalijanski juristpravnik CesareCesare BeccariaBeccaria.
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a napravio ga je talijasnki
porotnik Cesare Beccaria.
09:35
CesareCesare BeccariaBeccaria: As punishmentskazne
becomepostati more cruelokrutan,
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Cesare Beccaria: Kako kazne
postaju sve okrutnije,
09:37
the mindsmisli of menmuškarci, whichkoji like fluidstekućine
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umovi ljudi, koji kao tekućine
09:39
always adjustprilagoditi to the levelnivo of the objectsobjekti
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uvijek prilagođavaju svoju
razinu onoj predmeta
09:41
that surroundSurround them, becomepostati hardenedotvrdnu,
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koji ih okružuju, postaju tvrđi,
09:43
and after a hundredstotina yearsgodina of cruelokrutan punishmentskazne,
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i nakon stotinu godina
okrutnog kažnjavanja,
09:46
breakinglom on the wheelkotač causesuzroci no more fearstrah
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lomljenje na kotaču ne
uzrokuje više straha
09:48
than imprisonmentkazna zatvora previouslyprethodno did.
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nego zatvaranje prije.
09:50
For a punishmentkazna to achievepostići its objectivecilj,
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Kako bi kazna postigla svoj cilj,
09:53
it is only necessarypotreban that the harmšteta that it inflictsnanosi
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potrebno je samo da je šteta koju nanosi
09:55
outweighsnadmašuju the benefitkorist that derivesproizlazi from the crimekriminal,
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teža od zločina,
09:58
and into this calculationračunanje oughttreba to be factoreduključeni
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i u ovu računicu treba ubaciti
10:00
the certaintysigurnost of punishmentkazna
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sigurnost kazne
10:02
and the lossgubitak of the good
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i gubitak dobra
10:03
that the commissionkomisija of the crimekriminal will produceproizvoditi.
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koje bi počinjenje zločina stvorilo.
10:06
Everything beyondIznad this is superfluoussuvišno,
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Sve više od ovoga je previše,
10:08
and thereforestoga tyrannicaltiranski.
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i samim time tiranski.
10:10
SPSP: But surelysigurno antiwarantiratne movementspokreti dependedovisio je
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SP: Ali zasigurno su
pokreti protiv rata ovisili
10:12
on massmasa demonstrationsdemonstracije
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o masovnim demonstracijama
10:13
and catchyprivlačan tunesmelodija by folknarodne singerspjevači
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i pjevnim pjesmama narodnih pjevača
10:16
and wrenchingiskrivljenje photographsfotografije
of the humanljudski coststroškovi of warrat.
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i fotografijama ljudskih žrtava u ratu.
10:18
RNGRNG: No doubtsumnjati, but modernmoderan anti-warprotiv rata movementspokreti
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RNG: Bez sumnje,
no moderni pokreti protiv rata
10:22
reachdohvatiti back to a long chainlanac of thinkersmislioci
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povezani su s dugim lancem mislioca
10:24
who had arguedtvrdio as to why we oughttreba to mobilizemobilizirati
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koji su raspravljali
zašto bi trebali mobilizirati
10:27
our emotionsemocije againstprotiv warrat,
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svoje emocije protiv rata,
10:29
suchtakav as the fatherotac of modernitymodernost, ErasmusErasmus.
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kao otac modernizma, Erasmus.
10:32
ErasmusErasmus: The advantagesprednosti derivedizveden from peacemir
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Erasmus: Prednost koju dobivamo iz mira
10:34
diffusedifuzno themselvesse fardaleko and wideširok,
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širi se naširoko i nadaleko,
10:36
and reachdohvatiti great numbersbrojevi,
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i doseže velik broj,
10:38
while in warrat, if anything turnsokreti out happilySretno,
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dok u ratu, ako išta ispadne sretno,
10:40
the advantageprednost redoundsTako only to a fewnekoliko,
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prednost se širi na nekolicinu,
10:42
and those unworthynedostojan of reapingŽetva it.
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i to na one koji nisu zavrijedili to.
10:44
One man'sčovjeka safetysigurnosni is owingZahvaljujući
to the destructionrazaranje of anotherjoš.
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Sigurnost jednog čovjeka
duguje uništenju drugog.
10:47
One man'sčovjeka prizenagrada is derivedizveden
from the plunderpljačku of anotherjoš.
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Nagrada jednog proizvod je nesreće drugog.
10:50
The causeuzrok of rejoicingsrejoicings madenapravljen by one sidestrana
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Razlog za veselje jedne strane
10:52
is to the other a causeuzrok of mourningžalosti.
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je razlog tuge druge.
10:54
WhateverŠto god is unfortunatenesretnik in warrat,
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Što god je nesretno u ratu,
10:56
is severelyteško so indeeddoista,
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je zaista snažno tako,
10:57
and whateveršto god, on the contrarysuprotno,
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a što god, sa druge strane,
10:59
is calledzvao good fortunebogatstvo,
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se zove dobrom srećom,
11:00
is a savagedivljak and a cruelokrutan good fortunebogatstvo,
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je okrutna i divlja sreća,
11:02
an ungenerousLijepo happinesssreća derivingkoje proizlaze
its existencepostojanje from another'sdrugog woenesreća.
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nevelikodušna sreća stvarajući
svoje postojanje iz nesreće drugoga.
11:05
SPSP: But everyonesvatko knowszna that the movementpokret
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SP: Ali svi znaju da je pokret
11:07
to abolishukinuti slaveryropstvo dependedovisio je on faithvjera and emotionemocija.
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za ukidanje ropstva ovisi o vjeri i emociji.
11:11
It was a movementpokret spearheadedpredvodio by the QuakersKvekeri,
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To je pokret potaknut Kvejkerima,
11:13
and it only becamepostao popularpopularan when
HarrietHarriet BeecherBeecher Stowe'sStowe je novelroman
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i tek je postao popularan
kada je roman Harriet Beecher Stowe
11:16
"UncleUjak Tom'sTom je CabinKabina" becamepostao a bestsellerbestseler.
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"Čiča Tomina koliba" postao bestseller.
11:18
RNGRNG: But the balllopta got rollingvaljanje a centurystoljeće before.
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RNG: Ali da bi pokrenuo
loptu prije stoljeća,
11:21
JohnJohn LockeLocke buckedizliječio the tideplima of millenniatisućljeća
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John Locke borio se s plimom stoljeća
11:25
that had regardedsmatrati the practicepraksa as perfectlysavršeno naturalprirodni.
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koja je smatrala da je ta praksa normalna.
11:28
He arguedtvrdio that it was inconsistentnedosljedan
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Tvrdio je da je nedosljedno
11:31
with the principlesprincipi of rationalracionalan governmentvlada.
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sa principima racionalnog vladanja.
11:32
JohnJohn LockeLocke: FreedomSloboda of menmuškarci underpod governmentvlada
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John Locke: Sloboda ljudi pod vladom
11:34
is to have a standingstajati rulepravilo to liveživjeti by
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mora imati pravilo po kojem živimo
11:36
commonzajednička to everyonesvatko of that societydruštvo
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zajedničko svima iz tog društva
11:38
and madenapravljen by the legislativezakonodavne powervlast erectedpodignut in it,
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i određeno zakonskom
moći podignutom u njemu,
11:41
a libertysloboda to followslijediti my ownvlastiti will in all things
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slobodu da slijedim moju
volju u svim stvarima
11:43
where that rulepravilo prescribespropisuje not,
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gdje to pravilo ne propisuje,
11:45
not to be subjectpredmet to the inconstantneverna,
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ne da budemo predmeti nedosljedne,
11:47
uncertainnesiguran, unknownnepoznato, arbitraryproizvoljan will of anotherjoš man,
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nesigurne, nepoznate,
proizvoljne volje drugog čovjeka,
11:51
as freedomsloboda of naturepriroda is to
be underpod no other restraintsuzdržanost
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jer sloboda prirode ne smije
biti pod ograničenjem
11:53
but the lawzakon of naturepriroda.
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osim zakona prirode.
11:55
SPSP: Those wordsriječi soundzvuk familiarupoznat.
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SP: Te riječi zvuče poznato.
11:57
Where have I readčitati them before? AhAh, yes.
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Gdje sam ih već pročitao? Ah, da.
12:00
MaryMarija AstellAstell: If absoluteapsolutan sovereigntysuverenitet
be not necessarypotreban
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Mary Astell: Ako je potpuna
neovisnost nepotrebna
12:02
in a statedržava, how comesdolazi it to be so in a familyobitelj?
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u državi, kako je to točno u obitelji?
12:05
Or if in a familyobitelj, why not in a statedržava?
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Ako je u obitelji tako, zašto ne i u državi?
12:08
SinceOd no reasonrazlog can be allegedNavodno for the one
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Kako nema razuma da će jedno
12:10
that will not holddržati more stronglysnažno for the other,
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biti snažnije podržano od drugog,
12:12
if all menmuškarci are bornrođen freebesplatno,
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ako su svi muškarci rođeni slobodni,
12:13
how is it that all womenžene are bornrođen slavesroblje,
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kako su sve žene rođene robinjama,
12:16
as they mustmora be if beingbiće subjectedpodvrgnuti
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što zasigurno jesu ako su predmetom
12:18
to the inconstantneverna, uncertainnesiguran,
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nedosljedne, nesigurne,
12:20
unknownnepoznato, arbitraryproizvoljan will of menmuškarci
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nepoznate, proizvoljne volje muškaraca
12:23
be the perfectsavršen conditionstanje of slaveryropstvo?
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koja je savršen uvjet za ropstvo?
12:26
RNGRNG: That sortvrsta of co-optionKo-opciju
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RNG: Takva ko opcija
12:28
is all in the jobposao descriptionopis of reasonrazlog.
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je u opisu posla razuma.
12:30
One movementpokret for the expansionekspanzija of rightsprava
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Jedan pokret za proširenje prava
12:32
inspiresinspirira anotherjoš because the logiclogika is the sameisti,
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inspirira drugi jer je logika jednaka,
12:36
and oncejednom that's hammereddogovoren home,
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i kada je to utemeljeno,
12:38
it becomespostaje increasinglysve uncomfortableneudoban
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postaje sve neugodnije
12:41
to ignorezanemariti the inconsistencynedosljednost.
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ignorirati nedosljednost.
12:43
In the 1960s, the CivilCivilnog RightsPrava MovementKretanje
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1960., pokret za ljudska prava
12:46
inspirednadahnut the movementspokreti for women'sženski rightsprava,
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inspirirao je pokret za prava žena,
12:47
children'sdječji rightsprava, gayhomoseksualac rightsprava and even animalživotinja rightsprava.
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prave djece, gay prava i prava životinja.
12:51
But fullypotpuno two centuriesstoljeća before,
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Ali puna dva stoljeća prije,
12:54
the EnlightenmentProsvjetljenje thinkermislilac JeremyJeremy BenthamBentham
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Prosvijetljeni mislioc Jeremy Bentham
12:56
had exposedizložen the indefensibilityneobranjivost
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izložio je neobranjiovst
12:58
of customaryuobičajeno practicesprakse suchtakav as
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uobičajenih praksi kao što je
13:01
the crueltyokrutnost to animalsživotinje.
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okrutnost prema životinjama.
13:03
JeremyJeremy BenthamBentham: The questionpitanje
is not, can they reasonrazlog,
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Jeremy Bentham:
Pitanje nije imaju li razum
13:05
norni can they talk, but can they sufferpatiti?
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niti mogu li pričati, već mogu li patiti?
13:09
RNGRNG: And the persecutionprogon of homosexualshomoseksualci.
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RNG: I progon homoseksualaca.
13:12
JBJB: As to any primaryosnovni mischiefzlo,
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JB: Kao bilo koji prvotni nestašluk,
13:14
it's evidentevidentan that it producesproizvodi no painbol in anyonebilo tko.
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evidentno je da ne stvara bol nikom.
13:17
On the contrarysuprotno, it producesproizvodi pleasurezadovoljstvo.
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Nasuprot, izaziva zadovoljstvo.
13:19
The partnerspartneri are bothoba willingspreman.
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Partneri su voljni.
13:21
If eitherili of them be unwillingNe želi,
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Da se ijedno od njih protivi,
13:22
the actčin is an offenseuvrede,
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čin je uvreda,
13:23
totallypotpuno differentdrugačiji in its naturepriroda of effectsefekti.
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potpuno drugačiji po svojoj prirodi.
13:26
It's a personalosobni injuryozljeda. It's a kindljubazan of rapesilovanje.
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To je osobna ozlijeda,
silovanje na neki način.
13:28
As to the any dangeropasnost exclusiveekskluzivan of painbol,
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Kao bilo koja opasnost, osim boli,
13:31
the dangeropasnost, if any, much consistsastojati
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opasnost, ako je ima, sastoji se
13:32
in the tendencysklonost of the exampleprimjer.
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od tendencije primjera.
13:34
But what is the tendencysklonost of this exampleprimjer?
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Ali što je tendencija ovog primjera?
13:37
To disposerashoda othersdrugi to engageangažirati in the sameisti practicesprakse.
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Pobrinuti se da drugi ne prakticiraju to.
13:39
But this practicepraksa producesproizvodi not painbol of any kindljubazan
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Ali ta praksa ne proizvodi nikakvu bol
13:42
to anyonebilo tko.
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nikome.
13:44
SPSP: Still, in everysvaki casespis, it tookuzeo at leastnajmanje a centurystoljeće
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SP: Ipak, u svakom slučaju,
trebalo je skoro stoljeće
13:46
for the argumentsargumenti of these great thinkersmislioci
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za argumente ovih velikih mislioca
13:48
to tricklecuriti down and infiltrateinfiltrirati
the populationpopulacija as a wholečitav.
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da budu prihvaćeni
i infiltriraju populaciju kao cjelinu.
13:52
It kindljubazan of makesmarke you wonderčudo about our ownvlastiti time.
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Ponekad se zapitamo za vlastito razdoblje.
13:54
Are there practicesprakse that we engageangažirati in
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Postoje li prakse u koje smo uključeni
13:56
where the argumentsargumenti againstprotiv
them are there for all to see
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gdje su argumenti
protiv njih jasno vidljivi,
13:59
but nonethelessipak we persisti dalje postoje in them?
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ali ipak ustrajemo u njima?
14:01
RNGRNG: When our great grandchildrenunuci look back at us,
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RNG: Kada naša pra-praunučad
bude gledala na nas,
14:04
will they be as appalledzaprepašten by some of our practicesprakse
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hoće li biti sablažnjeni
nekim našim praksama
14:07
as we are by our slave-owningrobovlasnička, heretic-burningspaljivanje heretika,
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kao što smo mi bili robovlasništvom,
spaljivanjem nevjernika,
14:11
wife-beatingžena, gay-bashing-gay bashing ancestorspreci?
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zlostavljanjem žena
i progonu gay populacije naših predaka?
14:14
SPSP: I'm sure everyonesvatko here
could think of an exampleprimjer.
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SP: Siguran sam da svi ovdje
možemo naći primjer.
14:17
RNGRNG: I optopt for the mistreatmentmaltretiranje of animalsživotinje
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RNG: Glasam za zlostavljanje životinja
14:19
in factorytvornica farmsfarme.
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na tvorničkim farmama.
14:21
SPSP: The imprisonmentkazna zatvora of nonviolentnenasilnom drugdroga offendersprijestupnika
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SP: Zatvaranje nenasilnih korisnika droga
14:23
and the tolerationtolerancija of rapesilovanje in our nation'snacije prisonszatvorima.
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i toleriranje silovanja
u zatvorima naše nacije.
14:25
RNGRNG: ScrimpingScrimping on donationsdonacije to life-savingkoji spašava život charitiesdobrotvorne udruge
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RNG: Uzimanje donacija iz
humanitarnih organizacija
14:28
in the developingrazvoju worldsvijet.
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za svijet u razvoju.
14:30
SPSP: The possessionposjed of nuclearnuklearni weaponsoružje.
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SP: Posjedovanje nuklearnog oružja.
14:32
RNGRNG: The appealapel to religionreligija to justifyopravdati
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RNG: Poziv da religija pravda
14:35
the otherwiseinače unjustifiablenedopustiva,
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inače neopravdane stvari,
14:36
suchtakav as the banzabrana on contraceptionKontracepcija.
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kao što je zabrana kontracepcije.
14:39
SPSP: What about religiousvjerski faithvjera in generalgeneral?
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SP: Što sa vjerom, općenito?
14:41
RNGRNG: EhHa, I'm not holdingdržanje my breathdah.
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RNG: Ah, ne nadam se.
14:43
SPSP: Still, I have becomepostati convinceduvjeren
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SP: Ipak, postao sam uvjeren
14:45
that reasonrazlog is a better angelanđeo
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da je razum bolji anđeo
14:46
that deserveszaslužuje the greatestnajveći creditKreditna
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koji zaslužuje najveće zasluge
14:48
for the moralmoralan progressnapredak our speciesvrsta has enjoyeduživao
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za moralni napredak naše vrste
14:51
and that holdsdrži out the greatestnajveći hopenada
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i da je u njemu najveća nada
14:53
for continuingnastavlja moralmoralan progressnapredak in the futurebudućnost.
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za nastavak moralnog napretka
u budućnosti.
14:56
RNGRNG: And if, our friendsprijatelji,
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RNG: I ako vi, naši prijatelji,
14:58
you detectotkriti a flawmana in this argumentargument,
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nađete manu u ovom argumentu,
15:00
just rememberzapamtiti you'llvi ćete be dependingovisno on reasonrazlog
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upamtite da ćete ovisiti o razumu
15:04
to pointtočka it out.
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kako biste to istakli.
15:05
Thank you.
SPSP: Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
SP: Hvala vam.
15:08
(ApplausePljesak)
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(Pljesak)
Translated by Ivan Stamenkovic
Reviewed by Senzos Osijek

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Rebecca Newberger Goldstein - Philosopher and writer
Rebecca Newberger Goldstein writes novels and nonfiction that explore questions of philosophy, morality and being.

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In her latest book, Plato at the Googleplex: Why Philosophy Won't Go Away, Rebecca Newberger Goldstein makes the case for the importance of philosophy -- even as neuroscience tells us more about our brains, and connective technologies teach us more about the world around us. It's written in the form of a Socratic dialog, a form that Goldstein is passionate about teaching and exploring.

Meanwhile, her novels, from The Mind-Body Problem (Contemporary American Fiction) to 2011's 36 Arguments for the Existence of God: A Work of Fiction (Vintage Contemporaries), use techniques of fiction to untangle philosophical questions, such as: How should we balance heart and mind? What should we have faith in?

In 1996 Goldstein became a MacArthur Fellow, receiving the prize popularly known as the “Genius Award.” She was designated Humanist of the Year 2011 by the American Humanist Association. She's also the author of Betraying Spinoza: The Renegade Jew Who Gave Us Modernity, a combination memoir and history.

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Steven Pinker is a professor of cognitive science (the study of the human mind) who writes about language, mind and human nature.

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Steven Pinker grew up in the English-speaking community of Montreal but has spent his adult life bouncing back and forth between Harvard and MIT. He is interested in all aspects of human nature: how we see, hear, think, speak, remember, feel and interact.

To be specific: he developed the first comprehensive theory of language acquisition in children, used verb meaning as a window into cognition, probed the limits of neural networks and showed how the interaction between memory and computation shapes language. He has used evolution to illuminate innuendo, emotional expression and social coordination. He has documented historical declines in violence and explained them in terms of the ways that the violent and peaceable components of human nature interact in different eras. He has written books on the language instinct, how the mind works, the stuff of thought and the doctrine of the blank slate, together with a guide to stylish writing that is rooted in psychology.

In his latest book, Enlightenment Now: The Case for Reason, Science, Humanism, and Progress, he writes about progress -- why people are healthier, richer, safer, happier and better educated than ever. His other books include The Language InstinctHow the Mind Works, The Blank Slate: The Modern Denial of Human NatureThe Stuff of Thought, and The Better Angels of Our Nature.

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