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Juliana Machado Ferreira - Biologist
Brazilian-born biologist Juliana Machado Ferreira wants, simply, to save the world one bird at a time. She is a TED Senior Fellow.

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TED Senior Fellow Juliana Machado Ferreira is pursuing her doctorate in Conservation Genetics at the Laboratory of Evolutionary Biology and Vertebrate Conservation (LABEC) at São Paulo University. Her current project involves developing species-specific molecular markers and population genetics studies of four passerine birds, with the aim to understand the distribution of their genetic variability and to track down the origin of birds seized from illegal trade.

She works closely with the National Fish and Wildlife Forensics Laboratory, and her ultimate goal is to help set up a Wildlife Forensics Laboratory in Brazil.

Read a Q&A with Juliana on the TED Fellows site >>

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Juliana Machado Ferreira: The fight to end rare-animal trafficking in Brazil

Juliana Machado Ferreira: Borba za prekid trgovine rijetkih životinja u Brazilu

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Biolog Juliana Machado Ferreira, stariji TED kolega, govori o njenom radu gdje pomaže spasiti ptice i druge životinje ukradene iz divljine u Brazilu. Nakon što su ove životinje oduzete od krijumčara, ona pita, što učiniti onda?
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Brazilian-born biologist Juliana Machado Ferreira wants, simply, to save the world one bird at a time. She is a TED Senior Fellow. Full bio

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IllegalIlegalno wildlifebiljni i životinjski svijet tradetrgovina in BrazilBrazil
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Ilegalna trgovina divljim životinjama u Brazilu
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is one of the majorglavni threatsprijetnje againstprotiv our faunaŽivotinjski svijet,
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je jedna od glavnih prijetnji našoj fauni,
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especiallyposebno birdsptice,
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osobito pticama,
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and mainlyuglavnom to supplyOpskrba the petljubimac markettržište
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i uglavnom služi za opskrbu tržišta ljubimaca
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with thousandstisuća of animalsživotinje takenpoduzete from naturepriroda everysvaki monthmjesec,
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sa tisućama životinja otetih iz prirode svaki mjesec,
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and transportedprevozi fardaleko from theirnjihov originspodrijetlo,
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i transportiranih daleko od svojeg podrijetla,
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to be soldprodan mainlyuglavnom in RioRio dede JaneiroJaneiru and São PauloPaulo.
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kako bi se prodavale uglavnom u Rio de Janeiru i São Paulu.
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It is estimatedprocijenjen that
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Procjenjuje se da su
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all kindsvrste of illegalnezakonit wildlifebiljni i životinjski svijet tradetrgovina in BrazilBrazil
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sve vrste ilegalne trgovine divljih životinja u Brazilu
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withdrawpovući from naturepriroda
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povukle iz prirode
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almostskoro 38 millionmilijuna animalsživotinje everysvaki yeargodina,
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gotovo 38 milijuna životinja svake godine,
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a businessPoslovni worthvrijedan almostskoro two billionmilijardi dollarsdolara.
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posao vrijedan gotovo dvije milijarde dolara.
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The policepolicija interceptspresresti
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Policija presreće
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these hugeogroman cargosteret with liveživjeti animalsživotinje,
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ogromne kontejnere sa živim životinjama,
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intendednamijenjen to supplyOpskrba the petljubimac markettržište,
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namijenjenih za opskrbu tržišta ljubimaca
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or they seizeIskoristite the animalsživotinje directlydirektno from the people'snarodno houseskuća,
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ili oduzmu životinje direktno ljudima iz kuće.
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and this is how we endkraj up, everysvaki monthmjesec,
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A na kraju završimo, svaki mjesec,
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with thousandstisuća of seizedzaplijenila animalsživotinje.
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s tisućama zaplijenjenih životinja.
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And for us to understandrazumjeti what happensdogađa se with them,
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A za nas da shvatimo što se događa s njima,
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we're going to followslijediti BradBrad.
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slijedit ćemo Brada.
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In the eyesoči of manymnogi people,
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U očima mnogih ljudi,
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after the animalsživotinje are seizedzaplijenila,
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nakon što su životinje zaplijenjene,
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they say, "YayJupi, justicepravda has been servedslužio.
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kažu, "Jupi, pravda je zadovoljena.
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The good guys arrivedstigao,
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Dobri momci su stigli,
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tookuzeo the cuteslatka, mistreatedmaltretirali animalsživotinje
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oduzeli slatke izmaltretirane životinje
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from the handsruke of the evilzlo traffickerstrgovaca ljudima,
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iz ruku zlih trgovaca,
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and everyonesvatko livedživjeli happilySretno ever after."
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i svi su živjeli sretno do kraja života."
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But did they? ActuallyZapravo, no,
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Ali jesu li? Zapravo ne.
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and this is where manymnogi of our problemsproblemi beginpočeti.
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A to je gdje mnogi naši problemi počinju.
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Because we have to figurelik out
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Budući da moramo shvatiti što
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what to do with all these animalsživotinje.
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učiniti sa svim tim životinjama.
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In BrazilBrazil, they are usuallyobično first sentposlao
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U Brazilu, obično su prvo poslane
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to governmentalvladin triagetrijaža facilitiespostrojenja,
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državnim trijažnim ustanovama,
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in whichkoji mostnajviše of the casesslučajevi,
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u kojoj su u većini slučajeva
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the conditionsUvjeti are as badloše as
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uvjeti loši kao i
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with the traffickerstrgovaca ljudima.
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kod trgovaca.
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In 2002, these centerscentri receivedprimljen
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U 2002. ti centri primili
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45,000 animalsživotinje,
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su 45.000 životinja,
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of whichkoji 37,000 were birdsptice.
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od kojih su 37.000 ptice.
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And the policepolicija estimatesprocjene that we seizeIskoristite
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I policija procjenjuje da zaplijenimo
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only fivepet percentposto of what's beingbiće traffickedtrguje.
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pet posto žrtava trgovine.
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Some luckysretan onesone -- and amongmeđu them, BradBrad --
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Neki sretnici, a među njima, Brad,
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go to seriousozbiljan rehabilitationRehabilitacija centerscentri after that.
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idu u ozbiljne rehabilitacijske centre nakon toga.
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And in these placesmjesta they are caredmario for.
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I u tim mjestima su zbrinuti.
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They trainvlak theirnjihov flyingleteći,
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Treniraju letenje.
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they learnnaučiti how to recognizeprepoznati the foodhrana they will find in naturepriroda,
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Uče kako prepoznati hranu koju će pronaći u prirodi.
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and they are ableu stanju to socializedruženje
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I u mogućnosti su družiti se
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with othersdrugi from the sameisti speciesvrsta.
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s drugima iz iste vrste.
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(LaughterSmijeh)
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(Smijeh)
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But then what?
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Ali što onda?
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The BrazilBrazil OrnithologicalOrnitološki SocietyDruštvo --
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Brazilsko Ornitološko društvo,
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so now we're talkingkoji govori only birdsptice --
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sada govorimo samo za ptice,
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claimszahtjevi that we have too little knowledgeznanje
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tvrdi da imamo premalo znanja
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about the speciesvrsta in naturepriroda.
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o vrstama u prirodi.
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ThereforeStoga, it would be too riskyrizičan
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Stoga bi bilo previše rizično
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to releasepuštanje these animalsživotinje,
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osloboditi te životinje,
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bothoba for the releasedoslobođen and for the naturalprirodni populationspopulacije.
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i za puštene i za prirodne populacije.
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They alsotakođer claimzahtjev that we spendprovesti too manymnogi resourcesresursi
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Tvrde da trošimo previše resursa
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in theirnjihov rehabilitationRehabilitacija.
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u njihovoj rehabilitaciji.
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FollowingNakon this argumentargument,
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Slijedeći ovaj argument,
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they suggestpredložiti that all the birdsptice
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oni ukazuju na to da sve ptice
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seizedzaplijenila from non-threatenedNe prijeti speciesvrsta
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oduzete iz neugroženih vrsta
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should be euthanizedeuthanized.
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treba eutanazirati.
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HoweverMeđutim, this would mean havingima killedubijen
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Međutim, to bi značilo ubiti
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26,267 birdsptice,
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26.267 ptica,
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only in the statedržava of São PauloPaulo, only in 2006.
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samo u državi São Paulo, samo u 2006.
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But, some researchersistraživači, myselfsebe includeduključen --
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Ali, neki istraživači, i ja osobno,
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some NGOsNevladine organizacije and some people from the BrazilianBrazilski governmentvlada --
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neke nevladine organizacije i neki ljudi iz brazilske vlasti
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believe there is an alternativealternativa.
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vjeruju da postoji alternativa.
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We think that if and when the animalsživotinje meetsastati
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Mislimo da ako i kada životinje
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certainsiguran criteriakriteriji concerningo theirnjihov healthzdravlje,
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zadovolje određene kriterije u vezi njihovog zdravlja,
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behaviorponašanje, inferredslučajna originpodrijetlo
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ponašanja, zaključenog podrijetla,
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and whateveršto god we know about the naturalprirodni populationspopulacije,
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i što god znamo o prirodnim populacijama,
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then technicallytehnički responsibleodgovoran releasesza tisak are possiblemoguće,
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zatim ih je tehnički odgovorno pustiti.
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bothoba for the well-beingblagostanje of the individualpojedinac,
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I za dobrobit pojedinca,
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and for the conservationkonzervacija of the speciesvrsta and theirnjihov ecosystemsekosustavi,
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kao i za očuvanje vrsta i njihovih ekosistema.
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because we will be returningpovratak genesgeni for these populationspopulacije --
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Zato što ćemo vratiti gene ove populacije
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whichkoji could be importantvažno for them
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koji bi im mogli biti važni
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in facingokrenut environmentalekološki challengesizazovi --
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u suočavanju izazova u očuvanju okoliša.
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and alsotakođer we could be returningpovratak
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I također bi mogli vratiti
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potentialpotencijal seedsjeme dispersersdispersers, predatorspredatori, preysOna se hrani, etcitd.
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potencijalnog disperzera sjemena, predatora, lovinu, itd.
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All of these were releasedoslobođen by us.
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Svi ovi su pušteni kod nas.
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On the topvrh, the turtleskornjače are just enjoyinguživanje freedomsloboda.
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Na vrhu, kornjače samo uživaju u slobodi.
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(LaughterSmijeh)
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(Smijeh)
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On the middlesrednji,
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Na sredini,
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this guy nestedugniježđene a couplepar of weeksTjedni after the releasepuštanje.
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ovaj tip ugniježđen nekoliko tjedana nakon puštanja.
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And on the bottomdno, my personalosobni favoriteljubimac,
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A na dnu, moj osobni favorit,
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the little malemuški over there,
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malo muško tamo,
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fourčetiri hourssati after his releasepuštanje
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četiri sata nakon njegova puštanja
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he was togetherzajedno with a wilddivlji femaležena.
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on je bio zajedno sa divljom ženom.
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So, this is not newnovi, people have been
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Dakle, ovo nije novo, ljudi su to
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doing this around the worldsvijet.
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radili širom svijeta.
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But it's still a bigvelika issueizdanje in BrazilBrazil.
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Ali to je još uvijek veliki problem u Brazilu.
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We believe we have performedizvedena
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Vjerujemo da smo izvodili
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responsibleodgovoran releasesza tisak.
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odgovorno puštanje.
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We'veMoramo registeredregistrirani releasedoslobođen animalsživotinje matingparenje in naturepriroda
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Registrirali smo parenje u prirodi puštenih životinja,
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and havingima chickspilići.
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i dobivanje mladih.
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So, these genesgeni are indeeddoista going back to the populationspopulacije.
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Dakle, ti geni se doista vraćaju populaciji.
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HoweverMeđutim this is still a minoritymanjina
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Međutim, ovo je još uvijek manjina
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for the very lacknedostatak of knowledgeznanje.
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uz veliki nedostatak znanja.
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So, I say, "Let's studystudija more, let's shedšupe lightsvjetlo on this issueizdanje,
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Dakle, kažem da ih proučimo više, obasjajmo ovo pitanje,
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let's do whateveršto god we can."
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učinimo sve što možemo.
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I'm devotingposvetivši my careerkarijera to that.
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Posvetila sam svoju karijeru tome.
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And I'm here to urgetjerati eachsvaki and everysvaki one of you
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I ja sam ovdje kako bih potakla svakog od vas
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to do whateveršto god is in your reachdohvatiti:
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da učinite sve što je u vašem dosegu,
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Talk to your neighborsusjed, teachučiti your childrendjeca,
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razgovarajte sa svojim susjedom, učite vašu djecu,
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make sure your petljubimac is from a legalpravni breederuzgajivač.
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provjerite je li vaš ljubimac od legalnih uzgajivača.
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We need to actčin, and actčin now,
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Moramo djelovati, i djelovati sada
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before these onesone are the only onesone left.
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prije nego što su ovi jedini ostali.
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Thank you very much.
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Puno hvala.
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(ApplausePljesak)
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(Pljesak)
Translated by Romana Perković
Reviewed by Tilen Pigac - EFZG

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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Juliana Machado Ferreira - Biologist
Brazilian-born biologist Juliana Machado Ferreira wants, simply, to save the world one bird at a time. She is a TED Senior Fellow.

Why you should listen

TED Senior Fellow Juliana Machado Ferreira is pursuing her doctorate in Conservation Genetics at the Laboratory of Evolutionary Biology and Vertebrate Conservation (LABEC) at São Paulo University. Her current project involves developing species-specific molecular markers and population genetics studies of four passerine birds, with the aim to understand the distribution of their genetic variability and to track down the origin of birds seized from illegal trade.

She works closely with the National Fish and Wildlife Forensics Laboratory, and her ultimate goal is to help set up a Wildlife Forensics Laboratory in Brazil.

Read a Q&A with Juliana on the TED Fellows site >>

More profile about the speaker
Juliana Machado Ferreira | Speaker | TED.com

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