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Jeffrey Brown: How we cut youth violence in Boston by 79 percent
Reverend Jeffrey Brown: 将波士顿的暴力犯罪降低79%，我们是如何做到的
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"波士顿奇迹"的缔造者，Rev.Jeffrey Brown，当他还是一个年轻牧师的时候，他正为自己在波士顿的邻居们心惊胆战地生活以及被毒品和枪杀环绕的街头青年而忧心忡忡。他迈出的行之有效的第一步是：倾听青年的声音，停止说教，帮助他们从而减少周边的暴力犯罪。这是一个发人深省的“倾听促进改变”的演讲。
Jeffrey Brown - Pastor
A key player in the "Boston miracle" that lowered the rate of youth crime and gang violence, Rev. Jeffrey Brown is a Baptist minister. Full bio
A key player in the "Boston miracle" that lowered the rate of youth crime and gang violence, Rev. Jeffrey Brown is a Baptist minister. Full bio
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我所习得的一些重要的人生哲学
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I've learned some of
my most important life lessons
my most important life lessons
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from drug dealers
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来自于毒贩
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and gang members
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黑社会成员
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and prostitutes,
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和妓女
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and I've had some of my most
profound theological conversations
profound theological conversations
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同样我所进行的一些最深刻的神学对话
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not in the hallowed halls of a seminary
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也并没发生在神圣的神学院殿堂中
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but on a street corner
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而是在街边的角落
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on a Friday night, at 1 a.m.
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一个星期五夜晚，凌晨一点
这有些不同寻常
因为我是一个曾在神学院受训过的
因为我是一个曾在神学院受训过的
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That's a little unusual, since I am
a Baptist minister, seminary-trained,
a Baptist minister, seminary-trained,
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并且在教堂工作超过20年的浸信会牧师
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and pastored a church for over 20 years,
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but it's true.
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但那些确实发生了
这是我所参与的
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It came as a part of my participation
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致力于降低犯罪率的公共安全活动的一部分
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in a public safety
crime reduction strategy
crime reduction strategy
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此活动曾见证了一个大型城市的暴力犯罪率
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that saw a 79 percent reduction
in violent crime
in violent crime
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over an eight-year period in a major city.
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在八年间降低 79%
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But I didn't start out wanting to be
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但是我一开始并不愿意
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a part of somebody's
crime reduction strategy.
crime reduction strategy.
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参与这项降低犯罪的活动
我当时25岁，第一次主持教堂
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I was 25, had my first church.
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If you would have asked me
what my ambition was,
what my ambition was,
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如果你想要问我当时的目标
我会告诉你
我想成为一名大型教会的牧师
我想成为一名大型教会的牧师
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I would have told you
I wanted to be a megachurch pastor.
I wanted to be a megachurch pastor.
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I wanted a 15-, 20,000-member church.
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想使我的教会拥有1.5万至2万名信徒
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I wanted my own television ministry.
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想拥有自己的电视频道
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I wanted my own clothing line.
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想建立自己的服装产业
(笑声）
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(Laughter)
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想成为你们的长途电话运营商
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I wanted to be your long distance carrier.
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你懂的，所有的我都想插一脚
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You know, the whole nine yards.
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（笑声）
01:37
(Laughter)
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After about a year of pastoring,
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我做牧师大概一年时间
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my membership went up about 20 members.
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教会的信徒只增加了20个
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So megachurchdom was way down the road.
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所以组建大型教会还有很长的路要走
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But seriously, if you'd have said,
"What is your ambition?"
"What is your ambition?"
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但是老实说
如果你要问我的梦想是什么
如果你要问我的梦想是什么
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I would have said just to be
a good pastor,
a good pastor,
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我会回答，我只想成为一个优秀的牧师
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to be able to be with people
through all the passages of life,
through all the passages of life,
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能够与人们一起经历人生的每个篇章
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to preach messages that would have
an everyday meaning for folks,
an everyday meaning for folks,
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宣扬教义使人们每一天都过得有意义
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and in the African-American tradition,
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并且遵循非洲裔美国人的传统
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to be able to represent
the community that I serve.
the community that I serve.
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使自己有能力代表所服务的群体
02:11
But there was something else
that was happening in my city
that was happening in my city
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然而一些其他的事情正发生在我的城市
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and in the entire metro area,
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在整个都市区域里
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and in most metro areas
in the United States,
in the United States,
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在美国大部分的都市内
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and that was the homicide rate
started to rise precipitously.
started to rise precipitously.
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这就是凶杀率开始急剧上升
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And there were young people
who were killing each other
who were killing each other
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年轻人因为一些琐事
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for reasons that I thought
were very trivial,
were very trivial,
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互相厮杀
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like bumping into someone
in a high school hallway,
in a high school hallway,
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比如在高中的走廊上无意间碰撞了某人
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and then after school,
shooting the person.
shooting the person.
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在放学后，就开枪射杀了这个人
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Someone with the wrong color shirt on,
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某人穿错了衬衫的颜色
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on the wrong street corner
at the wrong time.
at the wrong time.
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又在错误的时间出现在了错误的地方
02:48
And something needed
to be done about that.
to be done about that.
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我们需要着手解决这些事情了
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It got to the point where it started
to change the character of the city.
to change the character of the city.
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这些已经开始改变城市的性质
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You could go to any housing project,
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你可以去任何一个住宅区
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for example, like the one that was
down the street from my church,
down the street from my church,
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比如说，我的教堂街边的那个
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and you would walk in,
and it would be like a ghost town,
and it would be like a ghost town,
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如果你走进那里
那里简直像个鬼城
那里简直像个鬼城
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because the parents wouldn't allow
their kids to come out and play,
their kids to come out and play,
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因为家长们不允许他们的孩子出来玩
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even in the summertime,
because of the violence.
because of the violence.
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甚至在暑季
因为担心暴力事件
因为担心暴力事件
任何一个夜晚
你都可能听见附近传来一种声音
你都可能听见附近传来一种声音
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You would listen in the neighborhoods
on any given night,
on any given night,
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and to the untrained ear,
it sounded like fireworks,
it sounded like fireworks,
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不熟悉的人会觉得是烟花
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but it was gunfire.
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但那却是枪声
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You'd hear it almost every night,
when you were cooking dinner,
when you were cooking dinner,
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几乎每晚都能听到
在你做晚饭的时候
在你做晚饭的时候
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telling your child a bedtime story,
or just watching TV.
or just watching TV.
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在你给孩子讲睡前故事的时候
或在看电视的时候
或在看电视的时候
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And you can go to any emergency
room at any hospital,
room at any hospital,
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还有，你可以去任何医院的急诊室
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and you would see lying on gurneys
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可以看到在担架上躺着的
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young black and Latino men
shot and dying.
shot and dying.
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中弹垂死的年轻黑人或者拉美人
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And I was doing funerals,
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我主持葬礼
却不同于为年迈的长者所主持的葬礼
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but not of the venerated matriarchs
and patriarchs who'd lived a long life
and patriarchs who'd lived a long life
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他们的一生有许多话可以说
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and there's a lot to say.
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I was doing funerals of 18-year-olds,
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但是我所主持的葬礼死者只有18岁
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17-year-olds,
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17岁
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and 16-year-olds,
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甚至是16岁
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and I was standing in a church
or at a funeral home
or at a funeral home
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不管在教堂
还是在殡仪馆
还是在殡仪馆
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struggling to say something
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我总是绞尽脑汁地想说点
有意义的悼词
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that would make some meaningful impact.
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And so while my colleagues were building
these cathedrals great and tall
these cathedrals great and tall
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所以当我的同事在扩建教堂的时候
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and buying property outside of the city
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当他们在城外购买房产
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and moving their congregations out
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并将信徒搬迁出城市
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so that they could create
or recreate their cities of God,
or recreate their cities of God,
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想要建造或重建“上帝之城”的时候
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the social structures in the inner cities
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整个城市中心的社会结构
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were sagging under the weight
of all of this violence.
of all of this violence.
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正在因为承受暴力的重压而坍塌
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And so I stayed, because somebody
needed to do something,
needed to do something,
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所以我留下来
因为有人需要为此做些什么
因为有人需要为此做些什么
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and so I had looked at what I had
and moved on that.
and moved on that.
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我开始审视我能够做什么
并从这些方面入手
并从这些方面入手
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I started to preach decrying
the violence in the community.
the violence in the community.
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我开始在社区传道时谴责暴力事件
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And I started to look
at the programming in my church,
at the programming in my church,
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我开始关注自己教堂中的活动
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and I started to build programs
that would catch the at-risk youth,
that would catch the at-risk youth,
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并开始设置一些能够拯救
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those who were on the fence
to the violence.
to the violence.
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处于暴力犯罪边缘的青年人的项目
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I even tried to be innovative
in my preaching.
in my preaching.
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我甚至尝试有创意的传教方式
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You all have heard of rap music, right?
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你们大家都有听过说唱音乐吧
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Rap music?
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说唱音乐
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I even tried to rap sermon one time.
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我有次甚至尝试用去说唱的方式布道
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It didn't work, but at least I tried it.
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它没有奏效，但是我至少尝试过
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I'll never forget the young person
who came to me after that sermon.
who came to me after that sermon.
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我无法忘怀那个布道完后走向我的年轻人
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He waited until everybody was gone,
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他等到所有人都离开
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and he said, "Rev, rap sermon, huh?"
And I was like, "Yeah, what do you think?"
And I was like, "Yeah, what do you think?"
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对我说：Rev，说唱布道，哈？
我回答到: 是，你觉得怎么样？
我回答到: 是，你觉得怎么样？
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And he said, "Don't do that again, Rev."
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他说：再也别这样做了，Rev
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(Laughter)
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（笑声）
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But I preached and I built these programs,
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但是我确实宣扬了想法，并且制定了这些计划
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and I thought maybe if
my colleagues did the same
my colleagues did the same
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我想，如果我的同事和我做一样的事情
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that it would make a difference.
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我们会带来一些改变
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But the violence just
careened out of control,
careened out of control,
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暴力事件已经开始失控
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and people who were not involved in
the violence were getting shot and killed:
the violence were getting shot and killed:
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没有参与暴力事件的人们也被枪击中而亡
他们可能是去便利店买烟的人
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somebody going to buy a pack
of cigarettes at a convenience store,
of cigarettes at a convenience store,
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or someone who was sitting
at a bus stop just waiting for a bus,
at a bus stop just waiting for a bus,
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在公交车站等车的人
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or kids who were playing in the park,
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或者只是在公园玩耍的孩子
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oblivious to the violence
on the other side of the park,
on the other side of the park,
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然而发生在公园另一边的暴力事件
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but it coming and visiting them.
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正在悄无声息的降临到他们身上
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Things were out of control,
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暴力事情正在失控
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and I didn't know what to do,
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我不知道能够做些什么
但接下来的一些事情彻底地改变了我
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and then something happened
that changed everything for me.
that changed everything for me.
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06:03
It was a kid by the name of Jesse McKie,
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一个叫Jesse McKie的孩子
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walking home with his friend
Rigoberto Carrion
Rigoberto Carrion
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和他的朋友Rigoberto Carrion结伴回家
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to the housing project
down the street from my church.
down the street from my church.
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去到我的教堂街边的小区
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They met up with a group of youth
who were from a gang in Dorchester,
who were from a gang in Dorchester,
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他们遇见了一个来自多切斯特的青年黑帮团伙
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and they were killed.
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而后他们被杀害了
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But as Jesse was running
from the scene mortally wounded,
from the scene mortally wounded,
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从现场看Jesse当时的伤是致命的，但是他在奔跑
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he was running in the direction
of my church,
of my church,
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朝向我教堂的方向奔跑
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and he died some 100, 150 yards away.
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然而只跑了100到150米他就死了
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If he would have gotten to the church,
it wouldn't have made a difference,
it wouldn't have made a difference,
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然而就算他当时能够到教堂
还是于事无补
还是于事无补
因为那时教堂的灯是熄灭的，没有人在
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because the lights were out;
nobody was home.
nobody was home.
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06:35
And I took that as a sign.
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我将这件事情看作一个信号
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When they caught some of the youth
that had done this deed,
that had done this deed,
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当一些凶手被逮捕了之后
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to my surprise, they were around my age,
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令我惊讶的是
这些凶手竟与我的年纪相仿
这些凶手竟与我的年纪相仿
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but the gulf that was between us was vast.
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但我们的人生却是如此的不同
06:48
It was like we were in two
completely different worlds.
completely different worlds.
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就像我们处于两个完全不同的世界
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And so as I contemplated all of this
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当我仔细思考整个事件
想着刚刚发生的一切
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and looked at what was happening,
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06:58
I suddenly realized that there was
a paradox that was emerging inside of me,
a paradox that was emerging inside of me,
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我突然意识到
我内在的意识出现了一个悖论
我内在的意识出现了一个悖论
这个悖论就是
在我布道的过程中
在我布道的过程中
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and the paradox was this:
in all of those sermons
in all of those sermons
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07:06
that I preached decrying the violence,
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我不仅在谴责暴力行为
07:08
I was also talking about
building community,
building community,
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同时也在宣传构建社区
07:13
but I suddenly realized
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但是我忽然意识到
有这样一群人
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that there was a certain
segment of the population
segment of the population
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07:18
that I was not including
in my definition of community.
in my definition of community.
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我一直把他们排除在社区这个概念之外
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And so the paradox was this:
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那么悖论来了
07:24
If I really wanted the community
that I was preaching for,
that I was preaching for,
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如果我真的希望建立起我所宣传的社区
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I needed to reach out
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我必须伸出双手
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and embrace this group
that I had cut out of my definition.
that I had cut out of my definition.
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拥抱这个曾经被我
排除在社区之外的群体
排除在社区之外的群体
这意味着不是去建立活动
07:34
Which meant not about building programs
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07:37
to catch those who were
on the fences of violence,
on the fences of violence,
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来拯救处于暴力犯罪边缘的群体
07:41
but to reach out and to embrace those
who were committing the acts of violence,
who were committing the acts of violence,
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而是去伸出双手拥抱
那些正在参与暴力犯罪的人群
那些正在参与暴力犯罪的人群
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the gang bangers, the drug dealers.
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比如黑帮成员，贩毒者等
07:48
As soon as I came to that realization,
a quick question came to my mind.
a quick question came to my mind.
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当我意识到这些
一个疑问出现在我的脑海里
一个疑问出现在我的脑海里
07:53
Why me?
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为什么是我？
07:55
I mean, isn't this a law
enforcement issue?
enforcement issue?
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这不应该是执法机关的职责吗？
07:57
This is why we have the police, right?
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这正是警察存在的原因，不是吗？
08:00
As soon as the question, "Why me?" came,
the answer came just as quickly:
the answer came just as quickly:
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然而当这个问题出现时，我心中已有答案
08:04
Why me? Because I'm the one who
can't sleep at night thinking about it.
can't sleep at night thinking about it.
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为什么是我？因为我是那个
夜不能寐地思考这个问题的人
夜不能寐地思考这个问题的人
因为我是那个环顾四周说
必须有人为此做点什么的人
必须有人为此做点什么的人
08:10
Because I'm the one looking around saying
somebody needs to do something about this,
somebody needs to do something about this,
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08:14
and I'm starting to realize
that that someone is me.
that that someone is me.
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我开始意识到那个人就是我
08:18
I mean, isn't that how
movements start anyway?
movements start anyway?
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社会运动不就是这样开始的吗？
08:20
They don't start with a grand convention
and people coming together
and people coming together
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社会运动的开始不会是
许多人聚集起来，开一场盛大的会议
许多人聚集起来，开一场盛大的会议
08:24
and then walking in lockstep
with a statement.
with a statement.
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踢着正步，发表着宣言
08:28
But it starts with just a few,
or maybe just one.
or maybe just one.
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而是开始于一小部分人，甚至一个人
而这次开始于我
08:33
It started with me that way,
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所以我决定研究暴力文化
08:36
and so I decided to figure out
the culture of violence
the culture of violence
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在这种文化中包括许多年轻人，他们正在犯罪
08:40
in which these young people
who were committing them existed,
who were committing them existed,
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我开始在高中做志愿者
08:43
and I started to volunteer
at the high school.
at the high school.
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08:45
After about two weeks
of volunteering at the high school,
of volunteering at the high school,
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在高中志愿服务两周后
08:48
I realized that the youth
that I was trying to reach,
that I was trying to reach,
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我发现，我想要接触的那些年轻人
他们根本不会上高中
08:50
they weren't going to high school.
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08:53
I started to walk in the community,
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我开始在社区里四处走动
这并不需要什么高深的学问就能知道
08:55
and it didn't take a rocket scientist
to realize that they weren't out
to realize that they weren't out
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他们不在白天活动
08:59
during the day.
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09:01
So I started to walk the streets
at night, late at night,
at night, late at night,
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所以我开始晚上在街上走动，在深夜
09:06
going into the parks where they were,
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去那些他们聚集的公园
09:09
building the relationship
that was necessary.
that was necessary.
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他们在这里建立一些必要的联系
09:12
A tragedy happened in Boston
that brought a number of clergy together,
that brought a number of clergy together,
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一个发生在波士顿的悲剧
将许多神职人员聚在了一起
将许多神职人员聚在了一起
09:17
and there was a small cadre of us
who came to the realization
who came to the realization
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我们中有一小部分成员意识到
09:21
that we had to come out
of the four walls of our sanctuary
of the four walls of our sanctuary
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我们必须走出自己的圣所
09:24
and meet the youth where they were,
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然后到这些年轻人所在的地方和他们会面
09:25
and not try to figure out
how to bring them in.
how to bring them in.
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而不是试图将他们带进我们的世界
09:29
And so we decided to walk together,
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所以我们决定一起行动
09:32
and we would get together
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我们聚集在
这个城市里最危险的一个社区
09:34
in one of the most dangerous
neighborhoods in the city
neighborhoods in the city
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09:37
on a Friday night and on a Saturday night
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在周五和周六的晚上
09:39
at 10 p.m.,
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在晚上10点钟
我们会一直走到凌晨两三点
09:41
and we would walk
until 2 or 3 in the morning.
until 2 or 3 in the morning.
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09:44
I imagine we were quite the anomaly
when we first started walking.
when we first started walking.
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我想我们第一次开始行走的时候，显得非常奇怪
我们不是毒贩
09:47
I mean, we weren't drug dealers.
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09:49
We weren't drug customers.
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我们也不吸毒
09:51
We weren't the police. Some of us
would have collars on.
would have collars on.
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我们也不是警察
我们中还有人带着罗马领（男性宗教人员标志）
我们中还有人带着罗马领（男性宗教人员标志）
09:54
It was probably a really odd thing.
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这显得相当的奇怪
09:57
But they started speaking
to us after a while,
to us after a while,
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不久后，他们开始和我们说话
10:00
and what we found out is that
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我们发现
10:02
while we were walking,
they were watching us,
they were watching us,
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当我们行走时，他们也在观察我们
10:05
and they wanted to make sure
of a couple of things:
of a couple of things:
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他们想要确定一些事情
10:08
that number one, we were going
to be consistent in our behavior,
to be consistent in our behavior,
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第一，我们是否会始终如一的坚持我们的行为
10:13
that we would keep coming out there;
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我们是否会坚持每晚都来
10:15
and then secondly,
they had wanted to make sure
they had wanted to make sure
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第二，他们想要确信
我们不会利用他们
10:17
that we weren't out there to exploit them.
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因为总有人高喊
10:20
Because there was always
somebody who would say,
somebody who would say,
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我们会收回这些街道
10:22
"We're going to take back the streets,"
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但是他们身上总是携带了摄像头
10:24
but they would always seem to have
a television camera with them,
a television camera with them,
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或带着一个记者
10:27
or a reporter,
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10:29
and they would enhance
their own reputation
their own reputation
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这样做只是为了提高声望
10:31
to the detriment of those on the streets.
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却对街上的他们造成威胁
10:34
So when they saw that we had none of that,
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所以当他们了解我们并不是出于这些目的的时候
10:36
they decided to talk to us.
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他们决定和我们交谈
然后我们做了一件作为传道者令人吃惊的事
10:39
And then we did
an amazing thing for preachers.
an amazing thing for preachers.
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10:43
We decided to listen and not preach.
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我们决定倾听而不是说教
10:47
Come on, give it up for me.
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来吧，为我们鼓掌欢呼
10:49
(Laughter) (Applause)
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（笑声）（掌声）
10:52
All right, come on, you're cutting
into my time now, okay? (Laughter)
into my time now, okay? (Laughter)
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停下吧，你们在浪费我的时间
10:56
But it was amazing.
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但这确实让人吃惊
10:58
We said to them, "We don't know
our own communities after 9 p.m. at night,
our own communities after 9 p.m. at night,
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我们告诉他们
我们一直都不了解晚上九点后的我们自己的社区
我们一直都不了解晚上九点后的我们自己的社区
11:04
between 9 p.m. and 5 a.m.,
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晚上九点到早晨五点之间
11:07
but you do.
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但是你们了解
11:09
You are the subject matter experts,
if you will, of that period of time.
if you will, of that period of time.
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如果愿意，你们是这个时间段在某些问题上的专家
11:14
So talk to us. Teach us.
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所以请和我们谈谈，教教我们
11:17
Help us to see what we're not seeing.
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帮助我们看见我们没有看见的东西
11:19
Help us to understand
what we're not understanding."
what we're not understanding."
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帮助我们了解我们不了解的
11:23
And they were all too happy to do that,
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他们都非常乐意帮助我们
11:25
and we got an idea of what life
on the streets was all about,
on the streets was all about,
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并且使我们了解到了街上的人都在做什么
11:30
very different than what you see
on the 11 o'clock news,
on the 11 o'clock news,
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这些不同于你在11点的新闻所看到的
11:34
very different than what is portrayed
in popular media and even social media.
in popular media and even social media.
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也非常不同于主流媒体
甚至是社会媒体所描绘的画面
甚至是社会媒体所描绘的画面
11:40
And as we were talking with them,
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在与他们交流的过程中
11:42
a number of myths were dispelled
about them with us.
about them with us.
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我们消除了许多对他们的误解
11:46
And one of the biggest myths was
that these kids were cold and heartless
that these kids were cold and heartless
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最大的误解之一是，这些孩子都是冷血无情的
在暴力行动中表现出不寻常的胆量
11:53
and uncharacteristically bold
in their violence.
in their violence.
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11:57
What we found out was the exact opposite.
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而我们发现的与上述却完全相反
12:00
Most of the young people
who were out there on the streets
who were out there on the streets
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许多在街上游荡的年轻人
12:03
are just trying to make it on the streets.
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其实只是为了努力融入我们
12:06
And we also found out
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我们同样也发现
12:08
that some of the most
intelligent and creative
intelligent and creative
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他们中的一些孩子很聪明，极具创新力
12:12
and magnificent and wise
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并且高贵又博学
12:18
people that we've ever met
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这些我们遇到的人
12:21
were on the street,
engaged in a struggle.
engaged in a struggle.
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游走在街道上，为生活而奋斗
他们中的一些人称之为生存
但是我称他们为不屈者
但是我称他们为不屈者
12:26
And I know some of them call it survival,
but I call them overcomers,
but I call them overcomers,
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12:30
because when you're in
the conditions that they're in,
the conditions that they're in,
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因为当你处于他们一样境地的时候
能活一天就是完成了一次自我超越
12:33
to be able to live every day
is an accomplishment of overcoming.
is an accomplishment of overcoming.
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12:39
And as a result of that, we said to them,
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因此，我们问他们
12:41
"How do you see this church,
how do you see this institution
how do you see this institution
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你怎么看待我们的教会
怎么看待这个机构
怎么看待这个机构
这个致力于改善这个状况的机构
12:45
helping this situation?"
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我们制定了一个与这些年轻人谈话的计划
12:48
And we developed a plan
in conversation with these youths.
in conversation with these youths.
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12:52
We stopped looking at them
as the problem to be solved,
as the problem to be solved,
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我们不再把他们看成是需要解决的麻烦
我们开始视他们为伙伴，财富
12:56
and we started looking at them
as partners, as assets,
as partners, as assets,
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13:01
as co-laborers in the struggle
to reduce violence in the community.
to reduce violence in the community.
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视他们为一起减少社区暴力犯罪的同志
想象一下我们制定计划的场面
13:07
Imagine developing a plan,
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一个牧师和一个海洛因贩子坐在一起
13:09
you have one minister at one table
and a heroin dealer at the other table,
and a heroin dealer at the other table,
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13:14
coming up with a way in which the church
can help the entire community.
can help the entire community.
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商量出一个教会怎样帮助整个社区的方法
13:21
The Boston Miracle was about
bringing people together.
bringing people together.
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这就是把人们团结起来的“波士顿奇迹”
我们有其他的伙伴
13:25
We had other partners.
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我们有执法机关的伙伴
13:27
We had law enforcement partners.
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我们有警察
13:29
We had police officers.
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13:32
It wasn't the entire force,
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这并不是全部的力量
13:34
because there were still some who still
had that lock-'em-up mentality,
had that lock-'em-up mentality,
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因为仍然有些将自己内心封锁的人
13:39
but there were other cops
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但是我们有另一部分警察
13:41
who saw the honor in partnering
with the community,
with the community,
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他们在和大家的合作中感受到了荣誉
13:46
who saw the responsibility from themselves
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他们看到了自己的责任
13:49
to be able to work as partners
with community leaders and faith leaders
with community leaders and faith leaders
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使他们可以与社区的领导和信仰领袖合作
致力于减少社区的暴力犯罪
13:55
in order to reduce violence
in the community.
in the community.
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同样的人也存在于缓刑监视官中
13:58
Same with probation officers,
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14:00
same with judges,
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存在于法官中
14:02
same with folks who were
up that law enforcement chain,
up that law enforcement chain,
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也存在于那些游离在法律之外的人中
因为他们也像我们一样意识到了
14:06
because they realized, like we did,
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14:08
that we'll never arrest ourselves
out of this situation,
out of this situation,
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我们无法靠逮捕改变现状
起诉的数量永远也达不到顶峰
14:12
that there will not be
enough prosecutions made,
enough prosecutions made,
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14:18
and you cannot fill these jails up enough
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监狱永远也填不满
为了解决这个问题
14:23
in order to alleviate the problem.
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14:27
I helped to start an organization
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我帮助建立起一个组织
20年前，建立了这个以信仰为基础的组织
来致力于解决此类问题
来致力于解决此类问题
14:31
20 years ago, a faith-based organization,
to deal with this issue.
to deal with this issue.
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大概4年前我离开了
14:36
I left it about four years ago
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14:39
and started working in cities
across the United States,
across the United States,
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并且开始在美国的各个城市工作
14:42
19 in total,
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总共19个城市
我发现在这些城市中
14:44
and what I found out
was that in those cities,
was that in those cities,
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14:47
there was always this component
of community leaders
of community leaders
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总是有一些社区的领袖
他们兢兢业业，埋头苦干
14:52
who put their heads down
and their nose to the grindstone,
and their nose to the grindstone,
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他们不断地自我反省
14:56
who checked their egos at the door
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他们看到了团结的力量
14:59
and saw the whole as greater
than the sum of its parts,
than the sum of its parts,
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他们聚集在一起，并且想办法与街上的年轻人合作
15:02
and came together and found ways
to work with youth out on the streets,
to work with youth out on the streets,
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15:08
that the solution is not more cops,
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减少犯罪的方法不是需要更多的警察
而应该发掘社区中的每一股力量
15:13
but the solution is mining the assets
that are there in the community,
that are there in the community,
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15:18
to have a strong community component
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组成一个强大的
致力于减少犯罪的合作组织
15:22
in the collaboration
around violence reduction.
around violence reduction.
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15:27
Now, there is a movement
in the United States
in the United States
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现在，一个运动正在全美展开
15:31
of young people who I am very proud of
who are dealing with the structural issues
who are dealing with the structural issues
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由我引以为豪的青年们参与
他们致力于解决需要改变的结构性问题
他们致力于解决需要改变的结构性问题
15:38
that need to change if we're going
to be a better society.
to be a better society.
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来使社会变得更好
但现在的政治策略是将警察暴行
15:42
But there is this political ploy
to try to pit police brutality
to try to pit police brutality
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15:47
and police misconduct
against black-on-black violence.
against black-on-black violence.
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和警察对于暴力事件的执法不当 分开
然而这是一个谎言
15:52
But it's a fiction.
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这两者之间都是相互联系的
15:54
It's all connected.
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想想几十年来失败的的房屋政策
15:56
When you think about decades
of failed housing policies
of failed housing policies
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16:01
and poor educational structures,
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想想糟透的教育系统
想想持续不减失业率
16:05
when you think about
persistent unemployment
persistent unemployment
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16:08
and underemployment in a community,
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和那些待业在家的人群
16:11
when you think about poor healthcare,
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想想糟糕的医疗制度
16:14
and then you throw drugs into the mix
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你将会吸食各种毒品
你将会用枪支填满你的背包
16:17
and duffel bags full of guns,
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在暴力充斥的氛围中，生活看不到希望
16:19
little wonder that you would see
this culture of violence emerge.
this culture of violence emerge.
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而政府的方法却是一味的增加警力
16:24
And then the response that comes
from the state is more cops
from the state is more cops
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镇压不断出现的犯罪
16:29
and more suppression of hot spots.
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16:32
It's all connected,
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所有的这些都是有关联的
16:34
and one of the wonderful things
that we've been able to do
that we've been able to do
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我们能做的最大的贡献
16:38
is to be able to show the value
of partnering together --
of partnering together --
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是展示了合作的重要性
16:43
community, law enforcement,
private sector, the city --
private sector, the city --
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社区，司法机关，私人企业，整个城市联合起来
16:49
in order to reduce violence.
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为减少暴力犯罪
16:50
You have to value
that community component.
that community component.
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我们必要要重视社会的每一种力量
我相信我们能够终结这个城市的暴力
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I believe that we can end
the era of violence in our cities.
the era of violence in our cities.
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我相信那是有可能的，就算现在开始也不晚
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I believe that it is possible
and that people are doing it even now.
and that people are doing it even now.
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但是我需要你们的帮助
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But I need your help.
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成功不仅仅来自于那些
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It can't just come from folks
who are burning themselves out
who are burning themselves out
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社区中无私奉献的人
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in the community.
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他们需要支持，需要帮助
17:15
They need support. They need help.
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Go back to your city.
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回到你的城市
找到这些人
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Find those people.
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你们需要帮助吗？我可以帮助你们
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"You need some help? I'll help you out."
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找到这些人，他们就在那里
17:24
Find those people. They're there.
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将他们与司法机关，私企以及整个城市联合起来
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Bring them together with law enforcement,
the private sector, and the city,
the private sector, and the city,
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with the one aim of reducing violence,
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一起为减少暴力犯罪而努力
但是保证每个部分的联系是紧密的
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but make sure that
that community component is strong.
that community component is strong.
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因为就像布隆迪古老的谚语说的
17:40
Because the old adage
that comes from Burundi is right:
that comes from Burundi is right:
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盲目的帮助，只能越帮越忙
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that you do for me,
without me, you do to me.
without me, you do to me.
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God bless you. Thank you.
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愿上帝保佑你们，谢谢
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Jeffrey Brown - PastorA key player in the "Boston miracle" that lowered the rate of youth crime and gang violence, Rev. Jeffrey Brown is a Baptist minister.
Why you should listen
Rev. Jeffrey Brown is the president of RECAP (Rebuilding Every Community Around Peace), a national organization that helps cities build partnerships between the faith-based community, government and law enforcement agencies to reduce gang violence. He is one of the co-founders of the Boston Ten Point Coalition, a faith-based group that was an integral part of the “Boston miracle,” a process through which the city experienced a 79% decline in violent crime in the '90s, and spawned countless urban collaborative efforts in subsequent years that followed the Boston Ceasefire model. He served as its Executive Director from 2005 to 2013.
Rev. Brown consults to municipalities and police departments nationwide on issues around youth violence and community mobilization. His current project is to convene a second national conference of faith leaders and law enforcement, and facilitate a national conversation on the importance of faith institutions in public safety.
More profile about the speakerRev. Brown consults to municipalities and police departments nationwide on issues around youth violence and community mobilization. His current project is to convene a second national conference of faith leaders and law enforcement, and facilitate a national conversation on the importance of faith institutions in public safety.
Jeffrey Brown | Speaker | TED.com