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Jeffrey Brown: How we cut youth violence in Boston by 79 percent
傑佛里．布朗牧師: 我們如何將波士頓青年的暴力行為降低 79%
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「波士頓奇蹟」計劃的發起者——傑佛里．布朗牧師從一名困惑的青年牧師起步，眼見他所在的波士頓社區變得分崩離析，毒品和幫派暴力掌控了街上的孩子們。復興的第一步：傾聽孩子們的心聲，而不要僅僅去佈道，幫助他們減少所在街區的暴力行為。這個演講蘊含力量，說明了傾聽所能帶來的改變。
Jeffrey Brown - Pastor
A key player in the "Boston miracle" that lowered the rate of youth crime and gang violence, Rev. Jeffrey Brown is a Baptist minister. Full bio
A key player in the "Boston miracle" that lowered the rate of youth crime and gang violence, Rev. Jeffrey Brown is a Baptist minister. Full bio
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00:12
I've learned some of
my most important life lessons
my most important life lessons
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我曾在這些人身上學到人生最寶貴的課堂：
00:17
from drug dealers
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在毒販、黑社會成員和妓女身上。
00:19
and gang members
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00:22
and prostitutes,
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而令我最深刻的神學討論，
00:24
and I've had some of my most
profound theological conversations
profound theological conversations
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not in the hallowed halls of a seminary
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不是在神學院的神聖會堂中發生，
00:33
but on a street corner
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而是在街頭發生，
00:36
on a Friday night, at 1 a.m.
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在星期五晚上，凌晨一時。
00:39
That's a little unusual, since I am
a Baptist minister, seminary-trained,
a Baptist minister, seminary-trained,
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這有些奇怪，
因我是個在神學院受訓的浸信會牧師，
00:45
and pastored a church for over 20 years,
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還在一所教會做了超過二十年牧師，
00:50
but it's true.
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但這都是真的。
00:52
It came as a part of my participation
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這是我在參與減低罪案的計劃時的收獲，
00:55
in a public safety
crime reduction strategy
crime reduction strategy
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並令這大城市的犯罪率
在八年後下跌了百分之七十九。
在八年後下跌了百分之七十九。
00:59
that saw a 79 percent reduction
in violent crime
in violent crime
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01:03
over an eight-year period in a major city.
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01:07
But I didn't start out wanting to be
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但我不是一開始就想參與減低罪案的計劃。
01:09
a part of somebody's
crime reduction strategy.
crime reduction strategy.
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我當時二十五歲，剛有自己的教會，
01:13
I was 25, had my first church.
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01:16
If you would have asked me
what my ambition was,
what my ambition was,
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如果你當時問我的人生目標是甚麼，
我會說我想在一間超大型教會當牧師，
01:18
I would have told you
I wanted to be a megachurch pastor.
I wanted to be a megachurch pastor.
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我想有間擁有一萬五千、二萬信眾的教會，
01:22
I wanted a 15-, 20,000-member church.
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01:26
I wanted my own television ministry.
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我想有自己的電視傳道節目，
01:29
I wanted my own clothing line.
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我想有自己的服裝品牌，
01:32
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
01:33
I wanted to be your long distance carrier.
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我還想當你的長途電話公司，
01:35
You know, the whole nine yards.
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所有能想到的事我也想擁有。
01:37
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
01:40
After about a year of pastoring,
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在我當牧師一年後，
01:43
my membership went up about 20 members.
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我有約二十個信眾，
01:47
So megachurchdom was way down the road.
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所以距離超大型教會的目標還很遠。
01:50
But seriously, if you'd have said,
"What is your ambition?"
"What is your ambition?"
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但老實說，當你問我的夢想是甚麼時，
01:53
I would have said just to be
a good pastor,
a good pastor,
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我只想成為一個好牧師，
01:55
to be able to be with people
through all the passages of life,
through all the passages of life,
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與人們渡過人生的所有階段，
01:59
to preach messages that would have
an everyday meaning for folks,
an everyday meaning for folks,
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向人們傳道終生受用的訊息，
02:04
and in the African-American tradition,
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以及正如非裔美國人的傳統所說的，
02:07
to be able to represent
the community that I serve.
the community that I serve.
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能夠代表我所服務的社區。
02:11
But there was something else
that was happening in my city
that was happening in my city
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但在我的城市中，有些事正在發生，
02:16
and in the entire metro area,
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就在整個都市中，
02:18
and in most metro areas
in the United States,
in the United States,
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以及美國大部份的都市。
02:22
and that was the homicide rate
started to rise precipitously.
started to rise precipitously.
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凶殺案的數字急劇上升，
02:27
And there were young people
who were killing each other
who were killing each other
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年輕人為了微不足道的小事殺害對方，
02:30
for reasons that I thought
were very trivial,
were very trivial,
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like bumping into someone
in a high school hallway,
in a high school hallway,
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例如在高中的走廊撞到別人，
02:37
and then after school,
shooting the person.
shooting the person.
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放學後便用槍殺害那人，
02:40
Someone with the wrong color shirt on,
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又或是有人穿了顏色不對的衣服，
02:44
on the wrong street corner
at the wrong time.
at the wrong time.
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在錯誤的時間和錯誤的地方出現。
02:48
And something needed
to be done about that.
to be done about that.
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我們必須做些事情。
02:52
It got to the point where it started
to change the character of the city.
to change the character of the city.
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這個問題已開始改變城市的面貌。
02:56
You could go to any housing project,
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你可到任何一個公共屋村，
02:59
for example, like the one that was
down the street from my church,
down the street from my church,
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就如在我教會那條街的，
03:02
and you would walk in,
and it would be like a ghost town,
and it would be like a ghost town,
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當你走進那裡，那地方就如一個死城。
03:05
because the parents wouldn't allow
their kids to come out and play,
their kids to come out and play,
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即使在暑假，家長都不讓小孩出來玩，
03:08
even in the summertime,
because of the violence.
because of the violence.
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都是因為這些暴力事件。
03:11
You would listen in the neighborhoods
on any given night,
on any given night,
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你在這個社區的任何一晚
03:14
and to the untrained ear,
it sounded like fireworks,
it sounded like fireworks,
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都會聽到像是煙花的聲音，
03:17
but it was gunfire.
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但其實是槍聲。
03:19
You'd hear it almost every night,
when you were cooking dinner,
when you were cooking dinner,
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你幾乎每晚都能聽到，就在你準備晚餐時，
03:23
telling your child a bedtime story,
or just watching TV.
or just watching TV.
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和你的孩子說床邊故事時，或當你在看電視時。
03:28
And you can go to any emergency
room at any hospital,
room at any hospital,
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你也可以到任何一間醫院的急診室，
03:32
and you would see lying on gurneys
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看到擔架上中了彈並垂死的
年輕黑人和拉丁美洲人。
年輕黑人和拉丁美洲人。
03:36
young black and Latino men
shot and dying.
shot and dying.
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03:40
And I was doing funerals,
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當我主持喪禮時，
03:42
but not of the venerated matriarchs
and patriarchs who'd lived a long life
and patriarchs who'd lived a long life
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死去的不是受人尊敬的長者，
03:46
and there's a lot to say.
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這樣我會有很多話要說。
03:49
I was doing funerals of 18-year-olds,
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但我是為十八歲、十七歲、十六歲的人主持喪禮。
03:52
17-year-olds,
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03:54
and 16-year-olds,
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我當時站在教會或殯儀館裡，
03:56
and I was standing in a church
or at a funeral home
or at a funeral home
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04:01
struggling to say something
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在掙扎應說甚麼能帶來改變的說話。
04:03
that would make some meaningful impact.
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04:07
And so while my colleagues were building
these cathedrals great and tall
these cathedrals great and tall
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因此當我的同事在興建又高又宏偉的大教堂時，
04:13
and buying property outside of the city
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他們購買城市外的物業
04:16
and moving their congregations out
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讓他們能遷移信眾，
04:19
so that they could create
or recreate their cities of God,
or recreate their cities of God,
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以創造或再造他們的上帝之城，
04:24
the social structures in the inner cities
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這時舊城區的社會結構正承受暴力事件的重擔。
04:27
were sagging under the weight
of all of this violence.
of all of this violence.
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04:31
And so I stayed, because somebody
needed to do something,
needed to do something,
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因此我選擇留下，有人必須做些事。
04:34
and so I had looked at what I had
and moved on that.
and moved on that.
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我看看有甚麼我可以做的便實行。
04:37
I started to preach decrying
the violence in the community.
the violence in the community.
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我開始在社區傳道以打破暴力的污名，
04:42
And I started to look
at the programming in my church,
at the programming in my church,
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我亦開始檢視教會的活動計劃，
04:44
and I started to build programs
that would catch the at-risk youth,
that would catch the at-risk youth,
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我開始建立協助邊緣青年的計劃
04:48
those who were on the fence
to the violence.
to the violence.
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幫助那些快走向暴力的青年。
04:52
I even tried to be innovative
in my preaching.
in my preaching.
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我甚至嘗試用創新的方法傳道，
04:54
You all have heard of rap music, right?
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你們都有聽過饒舌音樂嗎?
04:56
Rap music?
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饒舌音樂?
04:57
I even tried to rap sermon one time.
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我有次甚至以饒舌形式講道。
05:00
It didn't work, but at least I tried it.
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雖然效果不佳，但至少我嘗試過。
05:04
I'll never forget the young person
who came to me after that sermon.
who came to me after that sermon.
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我還記得有個年輕人在佈道後走過來，
05:08
He waited until everybody was gone,
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他等所有人離開後跟我說:
「牧師，饒舌講道嗎?」
「牧師，饒舌講道嗎?」
05:10
and he said, "Rev, rap sermon, huh?"
And I was like, "Yeah, what do you think?"
And I was like, "Yeah, what do you think?"
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然後我問:「對呀，你覺得如何?」
05:13
And he said, "Don't do that again, Rev."
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他說:「不要再這樣做了。」
(笑聲)
05:16
(Laughter)
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05:20
But I preached and I built these programs,
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我傳道和建立這些計劃，
05:22
and I thought maybe if
my colleagues did the same
my colleagues did the same
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我想如果我的同事都這樣做的話，
05:24
that it would make a difference.
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我們就可以帶來改變。
05:27
But the violence just
careened out of control,
careened out of control,
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但暴力事件就是不受控制。
05:31
and people who were not involved in
the violence were getting shot and killed:
the violence were getting shot and killed:
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不牽涉在內的人卻被人射殺，
05:35
somebody going to buy a pack
of cigarettes at a convenience store,
of cigarettes at a convenience store,
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例如到便利店買香菸的人，
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or someone who was sitting
at a bus stop just waiting for a bus,
at a bus stop just waiting for a bus,
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在巴士站候車的人，
05:45
or kids who were playing in the park,
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以及在公園玩耍的小孩，
05:47
oblivious to the violence
on the other side of the park,
on the other side of the park,
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他們沒有察覺公園另一邊的暴力事件，
05:51
but it coming and visiting them.
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但暴力事件發生在他們身上。
05:53
Things were out of control,
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事情失去了控制，
05:56
and I didn't know what to do,
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而我不知道該做甚麼。
05:58
and then something happened
that changed everything for me.
that changed everything for me.
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突然一件事完全改變了我。
06:03
It was a kid by the name of Jesse McKie,
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這是關於一個叫Jesse McKie的孩子，
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walking home with his friend
Rigoberto Carrion
Rigoberto Carrion
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和朋友Rigoberto Carrion一起回家，
06:09
to the housing project
down the street from my church.
down the street from my church.
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回到我教會附近的公共屋村。
06:13
They met up with a group of youth
who were from a gang in Dorchester,
who were from a gang in Dorchester,
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他們遇到了來自多切斯特幫派的一群青年，
06:17
and they were killed.
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兩人都被殺。
06:20
But as Jesse was running
from the scene mortally wounded,
from the scene mortally wounded,
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Jesse負著致命的傷逃走，
06:22
he was running in the direction
of my church,
of my church,
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他正朝著我教會的方向奔跑，
06:25
and he died some 100, 150 yards away.
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但他在一百、一百五十碼外死了。
06:28
If he would have gotten to the church,
it wouldn't have made a difference,
it wouldn't have made a difference,
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就算他抵達教會也沒有分別，
06:32
because the lights were out;
nobody was home.
nobody was home.
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因當時所有燈都熄了，沒有人在那裡。
06:35
And I took that as a sign.
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但我視這為一個徵兆。
06:38
When they caught some of the youth
that had done this deed,
that had done this deed,
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當他們捉到做了這些壞事的青年時，
06:41
to my surprise, they were around my age,
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令我很驚訝的是他們和我的年齡相近，
06:44
but the gulf that was between us was vast.
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但我們之間的差異十分大，
06:48
It was like we were in two
completely different worlds.
completely different worlds.
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就像我們活在完全不同的世界中。
06:52
And so as I contemplated all of this
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正當我反思一切、思考發生了甚麼事時，
06:55
and looked at what was happening,
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06:58
I suddenly realized that there was
a paradox that was emerging inside of me,
a paradox that was emerging inside of me,
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我突然察覺我內心的一個問題：
07:04
and the paradox was this:
in all of those sermons
in all of those sermons
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在我宣揚去除暴力的佈道中，
07:06
that I preached decrying the violence,
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我同時亦談及建設社群。
07:08
I was also talking about
building community,
building community,
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07:13
but I suddenly realized
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但我突然醒覺有一撮人
並不在我對社群的定義中。
並不在我對社群的定義中。
07:15
that there was a certain
segment of the population
segment of the population
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07:18
that I was not including
in my definition of community.
in my definition of community.
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07:22
And so the paradox was this:
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所以這個問題是這樣的：
07:24
If I really wanted the community
that I was preaching for,
that I was preaching for,
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如果我真的想幫助這個社群，
07:27
I needed to reach out
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我必須走出去，
07:29
and embrace this group
that I had cut out of my definition.
that I had cut out of my definition.
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並接納這群不在我定義中的人。
07:34
Which meant not about building programs
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我們不應只幫助那些快走向暴力的青年，
07:37
to catch those who were
on the fences of violence,
on the fences of violence,
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07:41
but to reach out and to embrace those
who were committing the acts of violence,
who were committing the acts of violence,
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還應幫助那些已在犯暴力罪行的人，
07:46
the gang bangers, the drug dealers.
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那些黑社會成員和毒販。
07:48
As soon as I came to that realization,
a quick question came to my mind.
a quick question came to my mind.
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當我有了這個覺醒後，
我腦海中浮現一條問題：
我腦海中浮現一條問題：
07:53
Why me?
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為何是我?
07:55
I mean, isn't this a law
enforcement issue?
enforcement issue?
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這不應該是執法機構的問題嗎?
07:57
This is why we have the police, right?
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這不是我們有警察的原因嗎?
08:00
As soon as the question, "Why me?" came,
the answer came just as quickly:
the answer came just as quickly:
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當這問題出現時，答案亦隨之而揭曉。
08:04
Why me? Because I'm the one who
can't sleep at night thinking about it.
can't sleep at night thinking about it.
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為何是我? 因為我因這個問題而不能入睡，
08:10
Because I'm the one looking around saying
somebody needs to do something about this,
somebody needs to do something about this,
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因為我認為有些人必須做些事，
08:14
and I'm starting to realize
that that someone is me.
that that someone is me.
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而我察覺這人就是我。
08:18
I mean, isn't that how
movements start anyway?
movements start anyway?
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社會運動不就是這樣開始嗎?
08:20
They don't start with a grand convention
and people coming together
and people coming together
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一開始時並不是人們眾集在宏偉的會議中心，
08:24
and then walking in lockstep
with a statement.
with a statement.
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並有著共同的信念。
08:28
But it starts with just a few,
or maybe just one.
or maybe just one.
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開始時通常只有幾個人，或一個人，
08:33
It started with me that way,
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而發起的就只有我。
08:36
and so I decided to figure out
the culture of violence
the culture of violence
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我決定研究這令年輕人犯下暴力罪行的文化。
08:40
in which these young people
who were committing them existed,
who were committing them existed,
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我開始在高中當義工，
08:43
and I started to volunteer
at the high school.
at the high school.
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08:45
After about two weeks
of volunteering at the high school,
of volunteering at the high school,
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在兩星期的義工服務後，
08:48
I realized that the youth
that I was trying to reach,
that I was trying to reach,
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我發現我想接觸的青年都已輟學。
08:50
they weren't going to high school.
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08:53
I started to walk in the community,
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因此我走進社區，
08:55
and it didn't take a rocket scientist
to realize that they weren't out
to realize that they weren't out
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但不需科學家也可知道他們不會在白天出現。
08:59
during the day.
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09:01
So I started to walk the streets
at night, late at night,
at night, late at night,
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所以我在深夜時走到街上，
09:06
going into the parks where they were,
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走到他們所在的公園，
09:09
building the relationship
that was necessary.
that was necessary.
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開始建立必需的關係。
09:12
A tragedy happened in Boston
that brought a number of clergy together,
that brought a number of clergy together,
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一件在波士頓發生的悲劇
令一些教士聚首一堂，
令一些教士聚首一堂，
09:17
and there was a small cadre of us
who came to the realization
who came to the realization
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當中有一小撮人發覺
我們必須走出我們的教會，
我們必須走出我們的教會，
09:21
that we had to come out
of the four walls of our sanctuary
of the four walls of our sanctuary
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走到青年所在的地方，
09:24
and meet the youth where they were,
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09:25
and not try to figure out
how to bring them in.
how to bring them in.
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不追究甚麼事令他們變成這樣。
09:29
And so we decided to walk together,
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我們決定和他們同行。
09:32
and we would get together
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在這城市最危險的社區認識對方，
09:34
in one of the most dangerous
neighborhoods in the city
neighborhoods in the city
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09:37
on a Friday night and on a Saturday night
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就在星期五和星期六的晚上，
09:39
at 10 p.m.,
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晚上十時，
09:41
and we would walk
until 2 or 3 in the morning.
until 2 or 3 in the morning.
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一起走到清晨二、三時。
09:44
I imagine we were quite the anomaly
when we first started walking.
when we first started walking.
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當我們剛開始時，我們是不正常的人，
09:47
I mean, we weren't drug dealers.
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我們又不是毒販，
09:49
We weren't drug customers.
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我們不是吸毒的人，
09:51
We weren't the police. Some of us
would have collars on.
would have collars on.
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我們不是警察，我們還戴著羅馬領，
09:54
It was probably a really odd thing.
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所以這是十分奇怪的。
09:57
But they started speaking
to us after a while,
to us after a while,
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但不久後他們開始和我們說話。
10:00
and what we found out is that
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我們後來發現當我們行走時，
他們在觀察我們。
他們在觀察我們。
10:02
while we were walking,
they were watching us,
they were watching us,
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10:05
and they wanted to make sure
of a couple of things:
of a couple of things:
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他們想確認以下的事：
10:08
that number one, we were going
to be consistent in our behavior,
to be consistent in our behavior,
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第一，我們會否堅持我們的行動，
10:13
that we would keep coming out there;
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我們會否堅持每晚到這裡；
10:15
and then secondly,
they had wanted to make sure
they had wanted to make sure
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第二，他們想確認我們不是要用利用他們的。
10:17
that we weren't out there to exploit them.
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10:20
Because there was always
somebody who would say,
somebody who would say,
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因為經常有些人說「我們須收回我們的街道」，
10:22
"We're going to take back the streets,"
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10:24
but they would always seem to have
a television camera with them,
a television camera with them,
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但他們往往拿著電視台的攝影機，
10:27
or a reporter,
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又或是個記者，
10:29
and they would enhance
their own reputation
their own reputation
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他們傷害在街頭的人去提高自己的聲望。
10:31
to the detriment of those on the streets.
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10:34
So when they saw that we had none of that,
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而當他們看到我們不是這些人時，
10:36
they decided to talk to us.
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他們開始和我們說話。
10:39
And then we did
an amazing thing for preachers.
an amazing thing for preachers.
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然後我們做了一件令牧師驚訝的事，
10:43
We decided to listen and not preach.
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我們決定聆聽而不傳教。
10:47
Come on, give it up for me.
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對呀，為我們鼓掌吧。
10:49
(Laughter) (Applause)
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(笑聲) (掌聲)
10:52
All right, come on, you're cutting
into my time now, okay? (Laughter)
into my time now, okay? (Laughter)
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好了停止吧，你們在佔用我的時間。 (笑聲)
10:56
But it was amazing.
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但這真的很神奇。
10:58
We said to them, "We don't know
our own communities after 9 p.m. at night,
our own communities after 9 p.m. at night,
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我們跟他們說:
「我們不知道這社區在晚上九時是怎樣的，
「我們不知道這社區在晚上九時是怎樣的，
11:04
between 9 p.m. and 5 a.m.,
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就在晚上九時至早上五時。
11:07
but you do.
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但你們知道。
11:09
You are the subject matter experts,
if you will, of that period of time.
if you will, of that period of time.
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你就是那個時段的主人翁。
11:14
So talk to us. Teach us.
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所以告訴我們，教導我們，
11:17
Help us to see what we're not seeing.
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幫助我們看見我們忽略了的事，
11:19
Help us to understand
what we're not understanding."
what we're not understanding."
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幫助我們了解我們不明白的事。」
11:23
And they were all too happy to do that,
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而他們全都樂意這樣做，
11:25
and we got an idea of what life
on the streets was all about,
on the streets was all about,
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我們開始了解街頭的生活，
11:30
very different than what you see
on the 11 o'clock news,
on the 11 o'clock news,
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這和你在晚間新聞中看到的十分不同，
11:34
very different than what is portrayed
in popular media and even social media.
in popular media and even social media.
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而且跟大眾媒體和社群網路
描繪的十分不同。
描繪的十分不同。
11:40
And as we were talking with them,
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當我們和他們交談時，
11:42
a number of myths were dispelled
about them with us.
about them with us.
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我們打破了一些關於他們的迷思。
11:46
And one of the biggest myths was
that these kids were cold and heartless
that these kids were cold and heartless
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而當中最大的迷思就是
他們都是冷酷無情的，
他們都是冷酷無情的，
11:53
and uncharacteristically bold
in their violence.
in their violence.
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而且不尋常地暴戾。
11:57
What we found out was the exact opposite.
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但我們發現的是完全相反的。
12:00
Most of the young people
who were out there on the streets
who were out there on the streets
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大部份在街頭流連的青年人，
12:03
are just trying to make it on the streets.
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他們只是在嘗試進入街頭的生活。
12:06
And we also found out
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我們亦發現
12:08
that some of the most
intelligent and creative
intelligent and creative
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一些我們見過最聰明、
富創意、偉大、充滿智慧的人，
富創意、偉大、充滿智慧的人，
12:12
and magnificent and wise
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12:18
people that we've ever met
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12:21
were on the street,
engaged in a struggle.
engaged in a struggle.
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都在街頭上掙扎中。
12:26
And I know some of them call it survival,
but I call them overcomers,
but I call them overcomers,
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我知道有些人稱之為求存，
但我認為這是克服困難。
但我認為這是克服困難。
12:30
because when you're in
the conditions that they're in,
the conditions that they're in,
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因為當你在這環境時，
12:33
to be able to live every day
is an accomplishment of overcoming.
is an accomplishment of overcoming.
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能夠生存已經是一種成就。
12:39
And as a result of that, we said to them,
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因此我們和他們說，
12:41
"How do you see this church,
how do you see this institution
how do you see this institution
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「你認為這所教會、這個機構能怎樣改善這情況?」
12:45
helping this situation?"
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12:48
And we developed a plan
in conversation with these youths.
in conversation with these youths.
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在與這些青年的對話中我們制定了計劃。
12:52
We stopped looking at them
as the problem to be solved,
as the problem to be solved,
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我們不再視他們為需要解決的問題，
12:56
and we started looking at them
as partners, as assets,
as partners, as assets,
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我們開始視他們為夥伴、財富、
13:01
as co-laborers in the struggle
to reduce violence in the community.
to reduce violence in the community.
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以及打擊社區暴力的同事。
13:07
Imagine developing a plan,
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試想像在討論一個計劃時，
13:09
you have one minister at one table
and a heroin dealer at the other table,
and a heroin dealer at the other table,
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你有一個牧師在這，
旁邊卻是一個販賣海洛英的人，
旁邊卻是一個販賣海洛英的人，
13:14
coming up with a way in which the church
can help the entire community.
can help the entire community.
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他們一起為教會想辦法去幫助整個社區。
13:21
The Boston Miracle was about
bringing people together.
bringing people together.
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「波士頓奇蹟」的成功在於連繫人們。
13:25
We had other partners.
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我們有同伴，
13:27
We had law enforcement partners.
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我們有執法機構的夥伴，
13:29
We had police officers.
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我們有一些警察同伴，
13:32
It wasn't the entire force,
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但不是整個警方，
13:34
because there were still some who still
had that lock-'em-up mentality,
had that lock-'em-up mentality,
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因為仍然有些人認為要拘捕他們。
13:39
but there were other cops
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但有另一種警察，
13:41
who saw the honor in partnering
with the community,
with the community,
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他們為能夠協助社區而感到榮幸，
13:46
who saw the responsibility from themselves
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他們認為有責任跟社區領袖和信仰領袖合作，
13:49
to be able to work as partners
with community leaders and faith leaders
with community leaders and faith leaders
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一起打擊社區中的暴力。
13:55
in order to reduce violence
in the community.
in the community.
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13:58
Same with probation officers,
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感化官也是這樣。
14:00
same with judges,
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法官也是這樣。
14:02
same with folks who were
up that law enforcement chain,
up that law enforcement chain,
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執法機構的人也是這樣。
14:06
because they realized, like we did,
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因為他們像我們一樣明白到，
14:08
that we'll never arrest ourselves
out of this situation,
out of this situation,
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我們絕不能置身事外，
14:12
that there will not be
enough prosecutions made,
enough prosecutions made,
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而且我們永遠不會有足夠的檢控，
14:18
and you cannot fill these jails up enough
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你不能填滿監獄去減輕這個問題。
14:23
in order to alleviate the problem.
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14:27
I helped to start an organization
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二十年前我協助一個
有信仰背景的機構解決這個問題，
有信仰背景的機構解決這個問題，
14:31
20 years ago, a faith-based organization,
to deal with this issue.
to deal with this issue.
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14:36
I left it about four years ago
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我在四年前離開了。
14:39
and started working in cities
across the United States,
across the United States,
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我開始在美國不同城市工作，
14:42
19 in total,
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總共十九個城市。
14:44
and what I found out
was that in those cities,
was that in those cities,
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而我發現這些城市中總有一些社區領袖，
14:47
there was always this component
of community leaders
of community leaders
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14:52
who put their heads down
and their nose to the grindstone,
and their nose to the grindstone,
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他們埋頭苦幹、犧牲自我，
14:56
who checked their egos at the door
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他們認為群體比個人更重要，
14:59
and saw the whole as greater
than the sum of its parts,
than the sum of its parts,
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15:02
and came together and found ways
to work with youth out on the streets,
to work with youth out on the streets,
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他們一起尋找和街頭青年合作的方法。
15:08
that the solution is not more cops,
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而解決方法並非更多的警察，
15:13
but the solution is mining the assets
that are there in the community,
that are there in the community,
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而是發掘社區中的資產。
15:18
to have a strong community component
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我們需要社群積極的參與，
15:22
in the collaboration
around violence reduction.
around violence reduction.
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一起為打擊暴力而合作。
15:27
Now, there is a movement
in the United States
in the United States
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現在在美國有些
讓我驕傲的青年在發起一個運動，
讓我驕傲的青年在發起一個運動，
15:31
of young people who I am very proud of
who are dealing with the structural issues
who are dealing with the structural issues
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他們關注社會必須解決的結構性問題。
15:38
that need to change if we're going
to be a better society.
to be a better society.
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15:42
But there is this political ploy
to try to pit police brutality
to try to pit police brutality
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現時的政治技倆把警方使用暴力和行為不當
興黑人之間的暴力混為一談，
興黑人之間的暴力混為一談，
15:47
and police misconduct
against black-on-black violence.
against black-on-black violence.
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但這不是真的。
15:52
But it's a fiction.
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15:54
It's all connected.
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一切都是有關連的。
15:56
When you think about decades
of failed housing policies
of failed housing policies
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當你想到數十年來失敗的公共屋村，
16:01
and poor educational structures,
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以及差強人意的教育制度，
16:05
when you think about
persistent unemployment
persistent unemployment
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當你想到社區持續不斷的失業，
16:08
and underemployment in a community,
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以及就業不足的問題，
16:11
when you think about poor healthcare,
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當你想到惡劣的醫療保健，
16:14
and then you throw drugs into the mix
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你自然會走向毒品和整袋行李袋的槍，
16:17
and duffel bags full of guns,
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16:19
little wonder that you would see
this culture of violence emerge.
this culture of violence emerge.
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難怪這暴力的文化會出現。
16:24
And then the response that comes
from the state is more cops
from the state is more cops
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然後國家的應對方法是更多的警察，
16:29
and more suppression of hot spots.
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以及加強鎮壓犯罪熱點。
16:32
It's all connected,
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一切都有關連的。
16:34
and one of the wonderful things
that we've been able to do
that we've been able to do
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而我們做了的一件美好的事，
16:38
is to be able to show the value
of partnering together --
of partnering together --
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就是表現了互相合作的的可貴，
16:43
community, law enforcement,
private sector, the city --
private sector, the city --
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社群、執法機構、私人機構和城市一起打擊暴力。
16:49
in order to reduce violence.
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16:50
You have to value
that community component.
that community component.
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你必須重視社群的支持。
16:54
I believe that we can end
the era of violence in our cities.
the era of violence in our cities.
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我相信我們可以終結這個暴力的時代。
17:01
I believe that it is possible
and that people are doing it even now.
and that people are doing it even now.
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我相信我們能做到，有些人現在已這樣做。
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But I need your help.
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但我需要你們的幫助。
17:09
It can't just come from folks
who are burning themselves out
who are burning themselves out
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社區中只有幾個人拼命付出並不能成事。
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in the community.
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They need support. They need help.
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他們需要支持，他們需要幫助。
17:18
Go back to your city.
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回到你們的城市，
17:20
Find those people.
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找出這些人，
17:22
"You need some help? I'll help you out."
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「你需要幫忙嗎? 讓我協助你。」
17:24
Find those people. They're there.
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找出這些人，他們都在此。
17:28
Bring them together with law enforcement,
the private sector, and the city,
the private sector, and the city,
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將這些人、執法機構、私人機構和城市團結一起，
17:33
with the one aim of reducing violence,
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一起打擊暴力事件，
17:36
but make sure that
that community component is strong.
that community component is strong.
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但社群的支持是必需的。
17:40
Because the old adage
that comes from Burundi is right:
that comes from Burundi is right:
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因為這布隆迪諺語說得很對:
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that you do for me,
without me, you do to me.
without me, you do to me.
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「你為我做的事，如果沒有了解我的意願，
就是和我作對。」
就是和我作對。」
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God bless you. Thank you.
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願神保佑你們，謝謝。
17:53
(Applause)
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Jeffrey Brown - PastorA key player in the "Boston miracle" that lowered the rate of youth crime and gang violence, Rev. Jeffrey Brown is a Baptist minister.
Why you should listen
Rev. Jeffrey Brown is the president of RECAP (Rebuilding Every Community Around Peace), a national organization that helps cities build partnerships between the faith-based community, government and law enforcement agencies to reduce gang violence. He is one of the co-founders of the Boston Ten Point Coalition, a faith-based group that was an integral part of the “Boston miracle,” a process through which the city experienced a 79% decline in violent crime in the '90s, and spawned countless urban collaborative efforts in subsequent years that followed the Boston Ceasefire model. He served as its Executive Director from 2005 to 2013.
Rev. Brown consults to municipalities and police departments nationwide on issues around youth violence and community mobilization. His current project is to convene a second national conference of faith leaders and law enforcement, and facilitate a national conversation on the importance of faith institutions in public safety.
More profile about the speakerRev. Brown consults to municipalities and police departments nationwide on issues around youth violence and community mobilization. His current project is to convene a second national conference of faith leaders and law enforcement, and facilitate a national conversation on the importance of faith institutions in public safety.
Jeffrey Brown | Speaker | TED.com