ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Ellen Gustafson - Social entrepreneur
Co-founder of FEED and creator of The 30 Project, Ellen Gustafson is trying to change the way the world eats.

Why you should listen

Ellen Gustafson co-founded FEED Projects in 2007, creating an immensely popular bag whose profits are donated to the UN World Food Program (WFP). As a former employee of the WFP, she supported their mission to provide school lunches in developing countries so that children could receive both the nutrition and education they need. FEED has also created special bags and a new fund to address the crisis in Haiti, helping the children they once fed at school to rebuild their schools.

At TEDxEast in May 2010, Gustafson launched The 30 Project -- an effort to address the world’s hunger and obesity problems as a holistic global food issue. In her new venture, she hopes to stimulate a movement that will change our food and agricultural systems over the next 30 years so that healthy, balanced meals are available to all. Before her efforts to fix the world’s food issues, Gustafson’s primary concern was international security. She wrote and edited pieces on international terrorism for ABC and was a research associate at the Council on Foreign Relations.

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Ellen Gustafson: Obesity + hunger = 1 global food issue

Ellen Gustafson: Obesidade + Fame = 1 problema alimentario global

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Cocreadora das bolsas FEED filantrópicas, Ellen Gustafson di que a fame e a obesidade son dúas caras da mesma moeda. En TEDxEast lanza The 30 Project, un xeito de cambiar a forma en que cultivamos e comemos nos 30 anos vindeiros, e de resolver as desigualdades alimentarias mundiais que están detrás de ambas as epidemias.
- Social entrepreneur
Co-founder of FEED and creator of The 30 Project, Ellen Gustafson is trying to change the way the world eats. Full bio

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Son Ellen e estou
totalmente obsesionada coa comida.
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I'm Ellen, and I'm totally obsessed with food.
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Pero iso non foi o primeiro
co que me obsesionei.
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But I didn't start out obsessed with food.
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Empecei coas políticas
de seguridade global,
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I started out obsessed with global security policy
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porque vivía en NY durante o 11/9,
o que tivo moito que ver.
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because I lived in New York during 9/11, and it was obviously a very relevant thing.
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Logo pasei da seguridade global
aos alimentos
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And I got from global security policy to food
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ao decatarme de que a fame
vólveme moi irritable.
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because I realized when I'm hungry, I'm really pissed off,
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Supoño que ao resto do mundo
tamén lle pasa.
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and I'm assuming that the rest of the world is too.
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Especialmente se tes fame ti,
e os teus fillos, e os do veciño,
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Especially if you're hungry and your kids are hungry
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and your neighbor's kids are hungry and your whole neighborhood is hungry,
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e o barrio enteiro.
Cabréaste bastante.
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you're pretty angry.
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En realidade, parece que
as áreas do mundo que teñen fame
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And actually, lo and behold, it looks pretty much like
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the areas of the world that are hungry
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son tamén as áreas do mundo
máis inseguras.
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are also the areas of the world that are pretty insecure.
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Fun traballar
ao Programa Mundial de Alimentos
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So I took a job at the United Nations World Food Programme
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da ONU para abordar
estes aspectos da seguridade
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as a way to try to address these security issues
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through food security issues.
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a través da seguridade alimentaria.
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And while I was there, I came across
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Alí atopeime co que creo é o máis
sobresaliente dos seus programas.
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what I think is the most brilliant of their programs.
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Chamase Alimentación Escolar,
unha idea realmente sinxela
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It's called School Feeding, and it's a really simple idea
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to sort of get in the middle of the cycle of poverty and hunger
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para penetrar no ciclo
da pobreza e da fame,
que afecta a moita xente
ao redor do mundo, e detelo.
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that continues for a lot of people around the world, and stop it.
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By giving kids a free school meal, it gets them into school,
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Unha comida gratis
atrae aos nenos á escola,
e isto é educación, o primeiro
paso para saír da pobreza.
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which is obviously education, the first step out of poverty,
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Pero tamén lles proporciona os micro
e macronutrientes que precisan
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but it also gives them the micronutrients and the macronutrients they need
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to really develop both mentally and physically.
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para desenvolverse física e mentalmente.
Mentres estiven a traballar na ONU,
coñecín a Lauren Bush.
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While I was working at the U.N., I met this girl. Her name is Lauren Bush.
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E ela tivo esta brillante idea de vender
a bolsa chamada "Feed Bag”,
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And she had this really awesome idea
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to sell the bag called the "Feed Bag" --
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como na frase “strap on the feed bag”,
[poñer o morral = comer]
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which is really beautifully ironic because you can strap on the Feed Bag.
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Cada bolsa que vendésemos achegaría
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But each bag we'd sell would provide
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o valor dun ano de comidas
para un neno
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a year's worth of school meals for one kid.
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É simple, así que pensamos: adiante.
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It's so simple, and we thought, you know, okay,
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Custa entre 20 e 50 dólares
dar de comer a un escolar un ano.
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it costs between 20 and 50 bucks
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to provide school feeding for a year.
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Podemos vender estas bolsas e xuntar
moito diñeiro e espertar conciencias
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We could sell these bags and raise a ton of money
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and a ton of awareness for the World Food Programme.
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a prol do Programa Mundial.
Pero na ONU, as cousas
ás veces van lentas
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But of course, you know at the U.N., sometimes things move slowly,
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e eles basicamente dixeron que non.
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and they basically said no.
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Entón pensamos: é unha idea moi boa
e xuntaremos moito diñeiro.
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And we thought, God, this is such a good idea and it's going to raise so much money.
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E dixemos: poñamos en marcha
a nosa empresa.
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So we said screw it, we'll just start our own company, which we did three years ago.
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E fixémolo hai tres anos
Así foi o soño inicial de empezar
esta compañía chamada FEED.
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So that was kind of my first dream, was to start this company called FEED,
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E aquí está en pantalla o noso sitio web.
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and here's a screenshot of our website.
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Fixemos esta bolsa para Haití
un mes despois do terremoto
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We did this bag for Haiti, and we launched it just a month after the earthquake
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para darlles comidas na escola
aos nenos.
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to provide school meals for kids in Haiti.
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FEED estao facendo moi ben.
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So FEED's doing great. We've so far provided 55 million meals
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Entregamos xa 55 millóns de comidas
a nenos de todo o mundo,
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to kids around the world
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by selling now 550,000 bags, a ton of bags, a lot of bags.
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vendendo ata agora 555.000 bolsas,
unha tonelada de bolsas.
Todo este tempo...
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All this time you're -- when you think about hunger,
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é difícil pensar na fame,
xa que no que pensamos é en comer.
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it's a hard thing to think about, because what we think about is eating.
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I think about eating a lot, and I really love it.
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Penso moito en comer e encántame.
E o máis raro da fame mundial
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And the thing that's a little strange about international hunger
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e de falar acerca
de problemas internacionais
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and talking about international issues
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é que a maioría da xente pregunta:
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is that most people kind of want to know: "What are you doing in America?"
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“Que estades a facer
polos nenos de EE. UU.?”
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"What are you doing for America's kids?"
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Certamente hai fame en EE. UU.,
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There's definitely hunger in America:
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49 millóns de persoas
e case 16,7 millóns de nenos.
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49 million people and almost 16.7 million children.
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Quero dicir que é terrible
no noso propio país.
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I mean that's pretty dramatic for our own country.
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A fame definitivamente
significa algo moi distinto
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Hunger definitely means something a little bit different in America than it does internationally,
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en EE. UU. que noutros lugares,
pero é realmente importante
que lle fagamos fronte no noso país.
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but it's incredibly important to address hunger in our own country.
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But obviously the bigger problem that we all know about
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Pero o maior problema
que todos coñecemos é a obesidade
e é moi grave.
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is obesity, and it's dramatic.
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O que tamén é grave
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The other thing that's dramatic is that both hunger and obesity
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é que tanto a fame como a obesidade
aumentaron nos últimos 30 anos.
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have really risen in the last 30 years.
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Por desgraza, a obesidade
non é só problema de EE. UU.
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Unfortunately, obesity's not only an American problem.
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Foise expandindo por todo o mundo
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It's actually been spreading all around the world
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e principalmente a través
do tipo de alimentos que exportamos.
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and mainly through our kind of food systems that we're exporting.
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As cifras son moi preocupantes.
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The numbers are pretty crazy.
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Hai mil millóns de persoas
obesas ou con sobrepeso
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There's a billion people obese or overweight
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e mil millóns con fame.
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and a billion people hungry.
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Parecen dous problemas opostos,
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So those seem like two bifurcated problems,
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but I kind of started to think about, you know,
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pero empecei a pensar
en que é obesidade e a fame?
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what is obesity and hunger? What are both those things about?
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De que tratan as dúas?
Pois as dúas tratan de alimentos.
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Well, they're both about food.
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E cando se pensa en alimentos
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And when you think about food,
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a base fundamental nos dous casos
radica na problemática da agricultura.
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the underpinning of food in both cases
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is potentially problematic agriculture.
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E da agricultura proveñen os alimentos.
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And agriculture is where food comes from.
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Well, agriculture in America's very interesting.
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A agricultura en EE. UU.
é moi interesante.
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It's very consolidated,
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Está moi consolidada.
E os alimentos que se producen son
os que inxerimos.
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and the foods that are produced lead to the foods that we eat.
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Os alimentos que se producen
son máis ou menos, millo, soia e trigo.
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Well, the foods that are produced are, more or less, corn, soy and wheat.
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And as you can see, that's three-quarters of the food that we're eating for the most part:
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E iso son as 3/4 partes dos
alimentos que consumimos
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processed foods and fast foods.
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e na maioría son procesados
e comida rápida.
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Unfortunately, in our agricultural system,
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Por desgraza, nos nosos
sistemas agrícolas
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we haven't done a good job in the last three decades
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non o fixemos moi ben
as últimas tres décadas
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of exporting those technologies around the world.
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ao exportar esas tecnoloxías
ao redor do mundo.
A agricultura de África,
o lugar con máis fame no mundo,
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So African agriculture, which is the place of most hunger in the world,
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decreceu espectacularmente
mentres que a fame aumentou.
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has actually fallen precipitously
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as hunger has risen.
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Entón, dalgún modo
non estamos a establecer a conexión
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So somehow we're not making the connect
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entre exportar un bo sistema agrícola
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between exporting a good agricultural system
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e axudar así a alimentar á
poboación do mundo.
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that will help feed people all around the world.
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Who is farming them? That's what I was wondering.
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Quen cultiva a terra?, preguntábame eu.
E entón fun e subín a un gran silo
no Medio Oeste,
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So I went and stood on a big grain bin in the Midwest,
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and that really didn't help me understand farming,
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pero non me axudou a
entender a agricultura,
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but I think it's a really cool picture.
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aínda que creo que tirei unha boa foto.
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And you know, the reality is that
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E a realidade é que
entre os agricultores de EE. UU.,
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between farmers in America,
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que verdadeiramente, cando paso
un tempo no Medio Oeste,
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who actually, quite frankly, when I spend time in the Midwest,
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son moi corpulentos en xeral,
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are pretty large in general.
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e as súas facendas son moi grandes tamén.
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And their farms are also large.
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Mentres que os agricultores do resto do
mundo son moi delgados,
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But farmers in the rest of the world
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are actually quite skinny, and that's because they're starving.
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e iso é porque teñen fame.
A maioría da xente con fame
no mundo son agricultores de subsistencia.
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Most hungry people in the world are subsistence farmers.
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And most of those people are women --
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E a maioría son mulleres,
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which is a totally other topic that I won't get on right now,
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un tema diferente
que non abordarei agora,
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but I'd love to do the feminist thing at some point.
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pero que me gustaría tratar algunha vez
cun enfoque feminista.
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I think it's really interesting
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Creo que é moi interesante mirar
a agricultura desde estes dous lados.
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to look at agriculture from these two sides.
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There's this large, consolidated farming
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Temos esta agricultura grande, consolidada
que deu lugar ao que comemos en EE. UU.
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that's led to what we eat in America,
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and it's really been since around 1980,
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e que existe desde 1980,
despois da crise do petróleo,
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after the oil crisis,
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durante a consolidación masiva,
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when, you know, mass consolidation,
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o éxodo masivo
de pequenos agricultores neste país.
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mass exodus of small farmers in this country.
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E entón no mesmo período,
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And then in the same time period,
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deixamos aos agricultores de África
facer o propio.
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you know, we've kind of left Africa's farmers to do their own thing.
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Por desgraza, comemos o que se cultiva.
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Unfortunately, what is farmed ends up as what we eat.
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E en EE. UU. moito do que comemos
levounos á obesidade
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And in America, a lot of what we eat
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has led to obesity and has led to a real change
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e cara a un cambio real
da nosa dieta nos últimos 30 anos.
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in sort of what our diet is in the last 30 years.
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É unha tolemia.
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It's crazy.
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Un quinto dos menores de dous anos
beben refrescos.
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A fifth of kids under two drinks soda.
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Eh!. Non lles boten refresco aos biberóns.
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Hello. You don't put soda in bottles.
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Pero a xente faino porque é barato.
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But people do because it's so cheap,
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E así o noso sistema alimentario
nos últimos 30 anos cambiou totalmente.
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and so our whole food system in the last 30 years
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has really shifted.
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Creo que non só no noso propio país,
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I think, you know, it's not just in our own country,
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senón que en realidade estamos
a exportar o sistema a todo o mundo.
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but really we're exporting the system around the world,
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E cando se analizan os datos
dos países menos desenvolvidos,
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and when you look at the data of least developed countries --
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especialmente nas cidades,
que están a crecer rapidamente,
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especially in cities, which are growing really rapidly --
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people are eating American processed foods.
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as persoas comen alimentos
procesados estadounidenses.
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And in one generation,
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E nunha xeración, van desde a fame,
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they're going from hunger,
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e todo o seu efecto prexudicial
sobre a saúde, ata a obesidade,
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and all of the detrimental health effects of hunger,
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a diabetes e as doenzas cardíacas
nunha soa xeración.
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to obesity and things like diabetes
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and heart disease in one generation.
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So the problematic food system
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Así o problemático sistema alimentario
afecta á fame e á obesidade
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is affecting both hunger and obesity.
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Volvo insistir no mesmo,
pero isto é un sistema alimentario global
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Not to beat a dead horse,
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but this is a global food system
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onde hai mil millóns de persoas
con fame e mil millóns de persoas obesas.
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where there's a billion people hungry and billion people obese.
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Creo que é a única maneira de velo.
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I think that's the only way to look at it.
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E no canto de atender aos dous aspectos
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And instead of taking these two things as
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como problemas
separados,
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bifurcated problems that are very separate,
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é moi importante velos como un sistema.
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it's really important to look at them as one system.
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Traemos moitos dos nosos alimentos
de todo o mundo
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We get a lot of our food from all around the world,
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e noutras partes do mundo importan
o noso sistema alimentario.
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and people from all around the world are importing our food system,
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Polo que é bastante importante
empezar a velo doutra maneira.
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so it's incredibly relevant to start a new way of looking at it.
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The thing is, I've learned --
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Aprendín dos tecnólogos aquí presentes,
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and the technology people that are here, which I'm totally not one of them --
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aos cales eu obviamente non pertenzo,
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but apparently, it really takes 30 years
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que, en principio, precísanse 30 anos
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for a lot of technologies to become really endemic to us,
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para que moitas tecnoloxías
se asenten entre nós,
como o rato, internet e Windows.
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like the mouse and the Internet and Windows.
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You know, there's 30-year cycles.
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Saben? Existen ciclos de 30 anos.
Creo que o 2010 pode ser realmente
un ano interesante,
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I think 2010 can be a really interesting year
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because it is the end of the 30-year cycle,
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porque remata o ciclo de 30 anos,
e é o aniversario do
sistema alimentario global.
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and it's the birthday of the global food system.
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So that's the first birthday I want to talk about.
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É o primeiro do que quero falar.
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You know, I think if we really think that
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Creo que se de verdade pensamos que
é algo que pasou nos últimos 30 anos,
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this is something that's happened in the last 30 years, there's hope in that.
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hai esperanza.
É o trixésimo aniversario
dos cultivos transxénicos,
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It's the thirtieth anniversary of GMO crops
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das grandes racións, dos nuggets de polo,
do xarope de millo rico en frutosa,
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and the Big Gulp, Chicken McNuggets, high fructose corn syrup,
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the farm crisis in America
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da crise agrícola en EE. UU.
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and the change in how we've addressed agriculture internationally.
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e do cambio internacional de enfoque
da agricultura.
Por tanto, hai moitas razóns para
entender estes 30 anos
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So there's a lot of reasons to take this 30-year time period
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as sort of the creation of this new food system.
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como a creación do novo
sistema alimentario.
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I'm not the only one who's obsessed with this whole 30-year thing.
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Non son a única que esta obsesionada
con isto dos 30 anos.
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The icons like Michael Pollan
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Iconas como Michael Pollan e
Jamie Oliver no seu desexo do Premio TED
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and Jamie Oliver in his TED Prize wish
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both addressed this last three-decade time period
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referíronse a estas últimas tres décadas
como un período moi importante
para cambiar o sistema alimentario.
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as incredibly relevant for food system change.
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En realidade, impórtame desde 1980
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Well, I really care about 1980
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porque é tamén o meu trixésimo
aniversario este ano.
06:54
because it's also the thirtieth anniversary of me this year.
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06:57
And so in my lifetime,
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E, por tanto, durante a miña vida,
moito do que pasou no mundo,
07:00
a lot of what's happened in the world --
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como persoa obsesionada coa comida,
07:02
and being a person obsessed with food --
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moito disto cambiou.
07:04
a lot of this has really changed.
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Así que o meu segundo soño é que
creo que podemos mirar os próximos 30 anos
07:06
So my second dream is that I think
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07:08
we can look to the next 30 years
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como un prazo para cambiar
outra vez o sistema alimentario.
07:10
as a time to change the food system again.
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07:12
And we know what's happened in the past,
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E sabemos o que pasou no pasado,
así que se empezamos agora e
miramos as tecnoloxías
07:14
so if we start now, and we look at technologies
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07:16
and improvements to the food system long term,
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e as melloras do sistema alimentario
07:18
we might be able to recreate the food system
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podemos ser quen de recrear
o sistema alimentario,
07:20
so when I give my next talk and I'm 60 years old,
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de modo que cando dea
a miña seguinte charla aos 60,
07:22
I'll be able to say that it's been a success.
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poida dicir
que foi un éxito.
Entón, anuncio hoxe o comezo
dunha nova organización
07:25
So I'm announcing today the start of a new organization,
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07:27
or a new fund within the FEED Foundation, called the 30 Project.
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ou un novo fondo dentro da fundación FEED
chamada o Proxecto 30.
07:30
And the 30 Project is really focused
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O Proxecto 30 en realidade está enfocado
07:32
on these long-term ideas
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nestas ideas a longo prazo
para o cambio do sistema alimentario.
07:34
for food system change.
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E creo que aliñando defensores
internacionais que se ocupen da fame
07:36
And I think by aligning international advocates that are addressing hunger
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e defensores locais
que se ocupen da obesidade,
07:39
and domestic advocates that are addressing obesity,
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07:41
we might actually look for long-term solutions
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poderemos verdadeiramente buscar
solucións a longo prazo
que mellorarán
o sistema alimentario para todos.
07:44
that will make the food system better for everyone.
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07:46
We all tend to think that these systems are quite different,
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Tendemos a pensar
que estes sistemas son moi diferentes
07:48
and people argue whether or not organic can feed the world,
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e a xente discute se o orgánico
pode alimentar ao mundo.
07:51
but if we take a 30-year view,
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Pero a 30 anos vista,
hai máis esperanza en ideas colaborativas.
07:53
there's more hope in collaborative ideas.
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07:55
So I'm hoping that by connecting really disparate organizations
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Entón, espero que conectando
organizacións moi diferentes
07:58
like the ONE campaign and Slow Food,
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como a campaña ONE e Slow Food,
que non parecen agora ter moito en común,
08:00
which don't seem right now to have much in common,
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podemos falar de solucións holísticas,
a longo prazo e sistémicas,
08:02
we can talk about holistic, long-term, systemic solutions
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que mellorarán a alimentación para todos.
08:05
that will improve food for everyone.
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Algunhas ideas que tiven,
mirade, a realidade é que
08:07
Some ideas I've had is like, look,
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08:09
the reality is -- kids in the South Bronx need apples and carrots
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os nenos do Sur do Bronx
necesitan mazás e cenorias
igual ca os nenos de Botswana.
08:12
and so do kids in Botswana.
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E como lles conseguiremos
esas comidas nutritivas?
08:14
And how are we going to get those kids those nutritious foods?
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Tamén se volveu incriblemente global
a produción de carne e peixe.
08:17
Another thing that's become incredibly global is production of meat and fish.
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Entender como producir proteínas
08:20
Understanding how to produce protein
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de forma sa para o medio ambiente
08:22
in a way that's healthy for the environment and healthy for people
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e para as persoas
será moi importante para abordar
temas como o cambio climático
08:25
will be incredibly important to address things like climate change
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08:28
and how we use petrochemical fertilizers.
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e o uso de fertilizantes petroquímicos.
Estes son temas moi relevantes
08:31
And you know, these are really relevant topics
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a longo prazo e importantes
08:33
that are long term
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para os pequenos agricultores de África
08:35
and important for both people in Africa who are small farmers
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e para os agricultores e consumidores
dos EE. UU.
08:38
and people in America who are farmers and eaters.
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E tamén creo que hai que pensar
nos alimentos procesados doutro xeito,
08:41
And I also think that thinking about processed foods in a new way,
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onde se paguen as consecuencias
negativas como
08:44
where we actually price the negative externalities
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o arrastre de produtos químicos
e fertilizantes aos ríos
08:47
like petrochemicals and like fertilizer runoff
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no prezo dunha bolsa de patacas fritas.
08:50
into the price of a bag of chips.
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E se esa bolsa se converte entón
en máis cara ca unha mazá,
08:52
Well, if that bag of chips then becomes
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08:54
inherently more expensive than an apple,
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chegou a hora de cambiar o sentido
da responsabilidade persoal
08:56
then maybe it's time for a different sense
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08:58
of personal responsibility in food choice
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na elección dos alimentos,
porque hai eleccións,
09:00
because the choices are actually choices
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no canto de que tres cuartos dos produtos
se fagan só de millo, soia e trigo.
09:02
instead of three-quarters of the products being made just from corn, soy and wheat.
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09:05
The 30Project.org is launched,
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O 30Proyect.org xa está en marcha
09:07
and I've gathered a coalition of a few organizations to start.
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e xuntei unha coalición dunhas poucas
organizacións para empezar.
09:10
And it'll be growing over the next few months.
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E irá crecendo nos próximos meses.
Realmente espero
que todos pensemos en formas
09:13
But I really hope that you will all think of ways that you can
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de mirar a longo prazo
temas como o sistema alimentario
09:15
look long term at things like the food system
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09:17
and make change.
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e facer cambios.
(Aplausos)
09:19
(Applause)
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Ellen Gustafson - Social entrepreneur
Co-founder of FEED and creator of The 30 Project, Ellen Gustafson is trying to change the way the world eats.

Why you should listen

Ellen Gustafson co-founded FEED Projects in 2007, creating an immensely popular bag whose profits are donated to the UN World Food Program (WFP). As a former employee of the WFP, she supported their mission to provide school lunches in developing countries so that children could receive both the nutrition and education they need. FEED has also created special bags and a new fund to address the crisis in Haiti, helping the children they once fed at school to rebuild their schools.

At TEDxEast in May 2010, Gustafson launched The 30 Project -- an effort to address the world’s hunger and obesity problems as a holistic global food issue. In her new venture, she hopes to stimulate a movement that will change our food and agricultural systems over the next 30 years so that healthy, balanced meals are available to all. Before her efforts to fix the world’s food issues, Gustafson’s primary concern was international security. She wrote and edited pieces on international terrorism for ABC and was a research associate at the Council on Foreign Relations.

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