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Marina Abramović: An art made of trust, vulnerability and connection
瑪莉娜．阿布拉莫維奇: 一個由信賴、脆弱與連結創造而成的藝術
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藉由追尋極限的自我意識與個人的變化，瑪莉娜．阿布拉莫維奇的藝術推進了觀眾與藝術家的界線。在她2010年開創性的作品 "藝術家在現場" 中，她僅是單純地坐在一張椅子上面對她的觀眾，每天8小時...引起了很大的迴響。她最大膽的作品也許尚未出現--她即將透過大量的藝術機構，全心投入體驗及專注心靈的簡單活動。她說 "如果你總是用同樣的方式處理事情，不會有事發生 "。" 我的方法是去做我害怕的事、我不懂的事、去到沒人到達過的領域。 "
Marina Abramović - Performance artist
In her performances she’s been cut, burned, and nearly shot -- but Marina Abramović's boldest work yet is a gargantuan institute dedicated to transformation through art. Full bio
In her performances she’s been cut, burned, and nearly shot -- but Marina Abramović's boldest work yet is a gargantuan institute dedicated to transformation through art. Full bio
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Now...
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現在...
00:21
let's go back in time.
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讓我們回到過去。
回到1974年，
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It's 1974.
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在世界的某個地方
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There is the gallery somewhere
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有一個藝廊。
00:33
in the world,
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有一位23歲的年輕女孩
00:37
and there is a young girl, age 23,
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standing in the middle of the space.
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站在那個空間的中間，
在她面前的是一張桌子。
00:44
In the front of her is a table.
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桌上有76個物品，
00:49
On the table there are 76 objects
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是為了取悅和痛苦。
00:54
for pleasure and for pain.
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那些物品包含
00:58
Some of the objects are
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01:00
a glass of water, a coat, a shoe, a rose.
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一杯水、一件外套、一隻鞋、一朵玫瑰，
但也有一把刀子、刀片、鐵鎚，
01:07
But also the knife,
the razor blade, the hammer
the razor blade, the hammer
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及一把槍，附上一顆子彈。
01:13
and the pistol with one bullet.
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旁邊的說明書這麼寫著：
01:18
There are instructions which say,
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「我就是一件物品 ，
01:21
"I'm an object.
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01:23
You can use everything on the table on me.
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你可以在我身上使用桌上的任何東西，
01:26
I'm taking all responsibility --
even killing me.
even killing me.
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我承擔所有責任──
即使把我殺了也可以，
即使把我殺了也可以，
而時間是六小時。」
01:30
And the time is six hours."
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這個表演一開始很輕鬆。
01:35
The beginning of this
performance was easy.
performance was easy.
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觀眾會給我一杯水喝，
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People would give me
the glass of water to drink,
the glass of water to drink,
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他們會給我一朵玫瑰，
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they'd give me the rose.
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01:46
But very soon after,
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但很快地，
01:48
there was a man who took the scissors
and cut my clothes,
and cut my clothes,
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有一位男士拿了剪刀把我的衣服剪破，
01:52
and then they took the thorns of the rose
and stuck them in my stomach.
and stuck them in my stomach.
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然後他們拔起玫瑰尖刺
並刺進我的腹部。
並刺進我的腹部。
有個人拿起刀片，
割了我的頸部並喝了我的血。
割了我的頸部並喝了我的血。
01:56
Somebody took the razor blade
and cut my neck and drank the blood,
and cut my neck and drank the blood,
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那個刀疤仍在我身上。
02:01
and I still have the scar.
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女人會指使男人怎麼做，
02:04
The women would tell the men what to do.
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沒有男人強暴我，
02:08
And the men didn't rape me
because it was just a normal opening,
because it was just a normal opening,
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因為那是一個尋常的展覽場合，
有其他觀展者，
有其他觀展者，
02:12
and it was all public,
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02:14
and they were with their wives.
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而且他們的妻子就跟在旁邊。
02:16
They carried me around
and put me on the table,
and put me on the table,
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他們把我移來移去、帶到桌上，
然後把刀子放在我的兩腿之間。
02:19
and put the knife between my legs.
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02:21
And somebody took the pistol and bullet
and put it against my temple.
and put it against my temple.
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其中一人拿了槍、裝上子彈
並用槍指著我的太陽穴，
並用槍指著我的太陽穴，
另一人把槍搶走，他們開始打架。
02:25
And another person took the pistol
and they started a fight.
and they started a fight.
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六個小時結束後，
02:30
And after six hours were finished,
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02:33
I...
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我……
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started walking towards the public.
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開始走向群眾，
我殘破不堪。
02:39
I was a mess.
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02:40
I was half-naked, I was full of blood
and tears were running down my face.
and tears were running down my face.
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我半裸、流了很多血、
臉上眼淚不停地流。
臉上眼淚不停地流。
每個人避開、逃跑，
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And everybody escaped, they just ran away.
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他們無法面對我，
這個身為普通人的我。
這個身為普通人的我。
02:49
They could not confront myself,
with myself as a normal human being.
with myself as a normal human being.
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然後......
02:54
And then --
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接下來發生的事就是，
02:57
what happened
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我一個人在凌晨二點走進旅館，
02:59
is I went to the hotel,
it was at two in the morning.
it was at two in the morning.
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然後，
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And
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我面對鏡中的自己，
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I looked at myself in the mirror,
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03:10
and I had a piece of gray hair.
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發現我有了一根灰白的頭髮。
好的，
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Alright --
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03:18
please take off your blindfolds.
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請拿下你們的眼罩。
歡迎來到「表演」的世界。
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Welcome to the performance world.
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03:25
First of all, let's explain
what the performance is.
what the performance is.
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首先，讓我們解釋一下「表演」是甚麼？
有很多藝術家有不同的解釋，
03:29
So many artists,
so many different explanations,
so many different explanations,
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03:32
but my explanation
for performance is very simple.
for performance is very simple.
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但我對「表演」的解釋相當簡單。
03:35
Performance is a mental
and physical construction
and physical construction
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表演就是：表演者
用身體和心靈建構的狀態，
用身體和心靈建構的狀態，
在某一時間、空間中，
呈現在觀眾面前。
呈現在觀眾面前。
03:40
that the performer makes
in a specific time
in a specific time
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03:43
in a space in front of an audience
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然後彼此會有「能量對話」的發生。
03:46
and then energy dialogue happens.
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03:49
The audience and the performer
make the piece together.
make the piece together.
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觀眾與表演者一起創作出作品。
表演和戲劇有很大的不同。
03:53
And the difference between
performance and theater is huge.
performance and theater is huge.
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在戲劇中，刀子不是刀子，
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In the theater, the knife is not a knife
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而血只是番茄醬。
04:01
and the blood is just ketchup.
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04:04
In the performance,
the blood is the material,
the blood is the material,
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在表演中，血是素材，
而刀片或刀子則是工具。
04:08
and the razor blade or knife is the tool.
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04:11
It's all about being there
in the real time,
in the real time,
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表演的核心，
就是當下一定要在場，
就是當下一定要在場，
而且你不能事前排演，
04:15
and you can't rehearse performance,
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04:17
because you can't do many
of these types of things twice -- ever.
of these types of things twice -- ever.
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因為這些作品的呈現型態，
你絕對不可能重現兩次。
你絕對不可能重現兩次。
這非常重要，表演這事--
04:23
Which is very important,
the performance is --
the performance is --
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04:25
you know, all human beings
are always afraid of very simple things.
are always afraid of very simple things.
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你知道的，人類總是害怕非常簡單的事，
我們害怕受苦，我們害怕痛苦，
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We're afraid of suffering,
we're afraid of pain,
we're afraid of pain,
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我們害怕死亡的事。
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we're afraid of mortality.
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所以我做的是--
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So what I'm doing --
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04:37
I'm staging these kinds of fears
in front of the audience.
in front of the audience.
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我在觀眾面前展現這一類的害怕。
我在利用你的能量。
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I'm using your energy,
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04:43
and with this energy I can go
and push my body as far as I can.
and push my body as far as I can.
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用你的能量，
我盡可能把自己的身體
推到一個極限。
推到一個極限。
然後我從這些恐懼中解放了我自己。
04:49
And then I liberate myself
from these fears.
from these fears.
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而我就是你的鏡子。
04:53
And I'm your mirror.
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04:54
If I can do this for myself,
you can do it for you.
you can do it for you.
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如果我可以這樣做，
你自己也可以。
你自己也可以。
我在貝爾格萊德出生後，
(南斯拉夫首都)
(南斯拉夫首都)
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After Belgrade, where I was born,
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05:00
I went to Amsterdam.
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我去了阿姆斯特丹。
各位應該知道我近40年來
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And you know, I've been doing performances
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05:06
since the last 40 years.
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都在從事表演。
在這裡我遇見了烏雷，
05:08
And here I met Ulay,
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05:09
and he was the person
I actually fell in love with.
I actually fell in love with.
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他就是那個讓我真正
墜入情網的人。
墜入情網的人。
05:13
And we made, for 12 years,
performances together.
performances together.
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我們一起從事表演12年。
05:16
You know the knife
and the pistols and the bullets,
and the pistols and the bullets,
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你知道刀子、槍、子彈，
05:19
I exchange into love and trust.
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我把它們轉變成愛與信任，
05:22
So to do this kind work
you have to trust the person completely
you have to trust the person completely
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所以呈現這種作品時，
你必須完全相信那個人。
你必須完全相信那個人。
因為弓箭直指著我的心臟，
05:26
because this arrow
is pointing to my heart.
is pointing to my heart.
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05:29
So, heart beating and adrenaline
is rushing and so on,
is rushing and so on,
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所以，心臟跳得很快，
腎上腺素旺盛的流竄等等．．．
腎上腺素旺盛的流竄等等．．．
05:33
is about trust, is about total trust
to another human being.
to another human being.
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就是信任，就是完全信任另一個人。
我們的關係持續了12年，
05:39
Our relationship was 12 years,
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05:41
and we worked on so many subjects,
both male and female energy.
both male and female energy.
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我們一起創作了很多作品，
包含男性和女性的能量。
包含男性和女性的能量。
05:45
And as every relationship
comes to an end, ours went too.
comes to an end, ours went too.
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每一段關係最終都會結束，
我們兩個的也是，
我們兩個的也是，
05:49
We didn't make phone calls
like normal human beings do
like normal human beings do
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我們不像一般人會打電話，
然後跟對方說" 我們結束吧 "
05:53
and say, you know, "This is over."
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05:55
We walked the Great Wall
of China to say goodbye.
of China to say goodbye.
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我們去中國長城說再見，
05:58
I started at the Yellow Sea,
and he started from the Gobi Desert.
and he started from the Gobi Desert.
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我從黃海開始走，他從戈壁沙漠開始走，
06:03
We walked, each of us, three months,
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我們每個人走了三個月，
06:06
two and a half thousand kilometers.
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2500公里。
06:08
It was the mountains, it was difficult.
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它有山，很艱辛，
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It was climbing, it was ruins.
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它有廢墟，得用爬的，
06:13
It was, you know, going through
the 12 Chinese provinces,
the 12 Chinese provinces,
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你知道的，它貫穿了中國12個省，
06:16
this was before China was open in '87.
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當時是在87年中國開放之前，
06:20
And we succeeded to meet in the middle
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我們成功的在中間相遇，
並互道再見。
06:23
to say goodbye.
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然後我們的關係結束。
06:26
And then our relationship stopped.
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06:28
And now, it completely changed
how I see the public.
how I see the public.
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現在，這件事完全改變我如何看待大眾。
在那個時期我有一件很重要的作品，
06:33
And one very important piece
I made in those days
I made in those days
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就是 "巴爾幹巴洛克"
06:36
was "Balkan Baroque."
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06:38
And this was the time of the Balkan Wars,
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這就是當時的巴爾幹戰爭，
06:41
and I wanted to create
some very strong, charismatic image,
some very strong, charismatic image,
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而我想創造強烈、
吸引人目光的照片。
吸引人目光的照片。
06:44
something that could serve
for any war at any time,
for any war at any time,
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這照片可以象徵任何時間發生的戰爭，
06:48
because the Balkan Wars are now finished,
but there's always some war, somewhere.
but there's always some war, somewhere.
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雖然巴爾幹戰爭已經結束，
但某些地方仍有戰爭。
但某些地方仍有戰爭。
我在這邊洗...
06:52
So here I am washing
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06:54
two and a half thousand
dead, big, bloody cow bones.
dead, big, bloody cow bones.
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２５００隻死亡、大型、血腥母牛骨頭。
06:57
You can't wash the blood,
you never can wash shame off the wars.
you never can wash shame off the wars.
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你無法洗掉血，
你無法洗掉戰爭的醜陋。
你無法洗掉戰爭的醜陋。
所以，我每天洗六小時，洗了六天，
這些骨頭所帶的戰爭記憶逐漸被洗掉，
這些骨頭所帶的戰爭記憶逐漸被洗掉，
07:01
So I'm washing this six hours, six days,
and wars are coming off these bones,
and wars are coming off these bones,
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07:06
and becoming possible --
an unbearable smell.
an unbearable smell.
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漸漸地變成一種...
難以忍受的味道。
難以忍受的味道。
但之後某件事會停留在記憶裡。
07:09
But then something stays in the memory.
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07:12
I want to show you the one
who really changed my life,
who really changed my life,
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我想告訴你們，有個表演，
完全的改變我的一生。
完全的改變我的一生。
07:15
and this was the performance in MoMa,
which I just recently made.
which I just recently made.
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就是最近我在MoMa的表演，
07:19
This performance --
when I said to the curator,
when I said to the curator,
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我向策展人說明這個表演的方式--
" 我會坐在一張椅子上 "
07:22
"I'm just going to sit at the chair,
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07:24
and there will be
an empty chair at the front,
an empty chair at the front,
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" 前面會有一張空椅子 "
07:27
and anybody from the public
can come and sit as long as they want."
can come and sit as long as they want."
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" 任何人都可以坐在這，
想坐多久就多久 "
想坐多久就多久 "
策展人對我說，
07:30
The curator said to me,
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07:32
"That's ridiculous, you know,
this is New York,
this is New York,
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" 這太荒謬了，你知道，
這裡是紐約耶 ，"
這裡是紐約耶 ，"
" 那張椅子會空著， "
07:34
this chair will be empty,
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07:36
nobody has time to sit in front of you."
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" 沒人有時間坐在你面前 。"
07:37
(Laughter)
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( 笑聲 )
但我坐了3個月，
07:39
But I sit for three months.
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07:41
And I sit everyday, eight hours --
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博物館每天早上一開們，
07:43
the opening of the museum --
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我就坐8個小時。
07:44
and 10 hours on Friday
when the museum is open 10 hours,
when the museum is open 10 hours,
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禮拜五博物館開到10點，
我就坐10個小時，
我就坐10個小時，
我沒移動。
07:47
and I never move.
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07:48
And I removed the table
and I'm still sitting,
and I'm still sitting,
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然後我移開桌子，但我仍坐著，
07:51
and this changed everything.
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而這件事改變了一切。
這表演若在10或15年前--
07:53
This performance,
maybe 10 or 15 years ago --
maybe 10 or 15 years ago --
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07:56
nothing would have happened.
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沒事會發生。
07:57
But the need of people to actually
experience something different,
experience something different,
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但人們的需求正在經歷某種變化。
大眾不再是一個群體，
08:02
the public was not anymore the group --
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而是一對一的關係。
08:04
relation was one to one.
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08:07
I was watching these people,
they would come and sit in front of me,
they would come and sit in front of me,
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我看著這些人，
他們坐在我面前，
他們坐在我面前，
但他們得等很久，
好幾、好幾個小時，
好幾、好幾個小時，
08:10
but they would have to wait
for hours and hours and hours
for hours and hours and hours
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才能坐到這位置上，
08:13
to get to this position,
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08:14
and finally, they sit.
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最後，他們坐上來了。
08:16
And what happened?
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發生了甚麼事?
他們被另一個人觀察，
08:18
They are observed by the other people,
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08:20
they're photographed,
they're filmed by the camera,
they're filmed by the camera,
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他們被相機拍照、錄影。
他們被我觀察
08:23
they're observed by me
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08:24
and they have nowhere to escape
except in themselves.
except in themselves.
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除了他們的內在，
他們沒地方躲藏，
他們沒地方躲藏，
而這產生了一種差異。
08:28
And that makes a difference.
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08:29
There was so much pain and loneliness,
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這裡面有這麼多的痛苦和寂寞，
08:31
there's so much incredible things
when you look in somebody else's eyes,
when you look in somebody else's eyes,
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當你進入了他們的眼神，
有那麼多難以置信的事，
有那麼多難以置信的事，
08:35
because in the gaze
with that total stranger,
with that total stranger,
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因為在你凝視這個完全陌生的人時，
08:38
that you never even say one word --
everything happened.
everything happened.
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你沒說話，但每件事都發生了。
三個月後，
我明白當我從那張椅子站起來時，
我明白當我從那張椅子站起來時，
08:42
And I understood when I stood up
from that chair after three months,
from that chair after three months,
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我也變得不一樣了。
08:47
I am not the same anymore.
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08:48
And I understood
that I have a very strong mission,
that I have a very strong mission,
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我了解了我有個強烈的使命，
08:51
that I have to communicate this experience
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我必須向每個人
交流這次的經歷。
08:54
to everybody.
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08:56
And this is how, for me, was born the idea
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因此我有了一個想法產生，
08:59
to have an institute
of immaterial performing arts.
of immaterial performing arts.
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去開辦一個非物質
表演藝術的機構。
表演藝術的機構。
因為想到非物質，
09:03
Because thinking about immateriality,
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表演是種以時間為基礎的藝術。
09:06
performance is time-based art.
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09:07
It's not like a painting.
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它不像一幅畫，
09:09
You have the painting on the wall,
the next day it's there.
the next day it's there.
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你掛在牆上的畫，隔天仍會在那。
09:11
Performance, if you are missing it,
you only have the memory,
you only have the memory,
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表演，一但你錯過了它，
你擁有的僅剩回憶，
你擁有的僅剩回憶，
或者某人告訴你的故事，
09:16
or the story of somebody else telling you,
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09:18
but you actually missed the whole thing.
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但你實際上仍錯過了整件事。
所以你必須要在場。
09:20
So you have to be there.
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09:22
And in my point,
if you talk about immaterial art,
if you talk about immaterial art,
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就我的觀點，如果你要談論非物質藝術，
09:25
music is the highest --
absolutely highest art of all,
absolutely highest art of all,
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音樂是最高等級的--
絕對是所有藝術裡面最高等級的。
絕對是所有藝術裡面最高等級的。
因為它是最非物質的，
09:28
because it's the most immaterial.
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之後是這種表演，然後其他..
09:30
And then after this is performance,
and then everything else.
and then everything else.
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這是我主觀的觀點。
09:33
That's my subjective way.
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09:34
This institute is going to happen
in Hudson, upstate New York,
in Hudson, upstate New York,
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這個機構即將成立於紐約上州的哈德森。
我們和荷蘭建築師Rem Koolhaas合作，
嘗試建構一個概念，
嘗試建構一個概念，
09:38
and we are trying to build
with Rem Koolhaas, an idea.
with Rem Koolhaas, an idea.
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這概念很簡單，
09:41
And it's very simple.
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09:43
If you want to get experience,
you have to give me your time.
you have to give me your time.
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如果你想要體驗，你必須給我你的時間。
在你進入建築物前，你必須簽約，
09:47
You have to sign the contract
before you enter the building,
before you enter the building,
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09:51
that you will spend there
a full six hours,
a full six hours,
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你會在裡面待滿6個小時，
你必須給我你的誓言，
09:53
you have to give me your word of honor.
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這有點老套。
09:56
It's something so old-fashioned,
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09:58
but if you don't respect your own
word of honor and you leave before --
word of honor and you leave before --
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但如果你沒有遵守你的誓言，
而提前離開--
而提前離開--
那就不關我的事。
10:01
that's not my problem.
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10:03
But it's six hours, the experience.
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但體驗有6小時。
10:05
And then after you finish,
you get a certificate of accomplishment,
you get a certificate of accomplishment,
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在你結束後，你會得到一個成就認證。
如果你想要的話，
拿回家把它裱框起來。
拿回家把它裱框起來。
10:08
so get home and frame it if you want.
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10:10
(Laughter)
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( 笑聲 )
這是培訓大廳。
10:11
This is orientation hall.
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10:13
The public comes in, and the first thing
you have to do is dress in lab coats.
you have to do is dress in lab coats.
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大家進來後，第一件事就是換上實驗衣。
有件事很重要--
10:17
It's this importance
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10:19
of stepping from being
just a viewer into experimenter.
just a viewer into experimenter.
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就是你從一個觀看者變成體驗者。
10:23
And then you go to the lockers
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你要去置物櫃，
把你的手錶，iPhone，iPod，電腦等
10:25
and you put your watch,
your iPhone, your iPod, your computer
your iPhone, your iPod, your computer
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每一件電子數位產品放進置物櫃。
10:29
and everything digital, electronic.
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10:31
And you are getting free time
for yourself for the first time.
for yourself for the first time.
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而你會第一次
體會到完全屬於自己的時刻。
體會到完全屬於自己的時刻。
因為這不是科技的錯，
10:35
Because there is nothing
wrong with technology,
wrong with technology,
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是我們對待科技的方式是錯的。
10:39
our approach to technology is wrong.
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10:41
We are losing the time
we have for ourselves.
we have for ourselves.
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我們正在浪費屬於我們自己的時間。
10:44
This is an institute
to actually give you back this time.
to actually give you back this time.
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這個機構
會真的將這種時間還給你。
會真的將這種時間還給你。
你所要做的事就是...
10:47
So what you do here,
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10:48
first you start slow walking,
you start slowing down.
you start slowing down.
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首先，你開始慢步走，開始慢下來。
你會回到一種單純的境界。
10:51
You're going back to simplicity.
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10:53
After slow walking, you're going
to learn how to drink water --
to learn how to drink water --
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慢步走後，你會學如何喝水。
10:57
very simple, drinking water
for maybe half an hour.
for maybe half an hour.
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很單純，也許花半小時去喝它。
之後，你會到一個磁力室，
11:01
After this, you're going to
the magnet chamber,
the magnet chamber,
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11:03
where you're going to create
some magnet streams on your body.
some magnet streams on your body.
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一個你在你身上製造磁流的地方
之後，你會來到水晶室。
11:07
Then after this,
you go to crystal chamber.
you go to crystal chamber.
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11:10
After crystal chamber,
you go to eye-gazing chamber,
you go to eye-gazing chamber,
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水晶室之後，你到眼神凝視室，
11:13
after eye-gazing chamber, you go to
a chamber where you are lying down.
a chamber where you are lying down.
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眼神凝視室後，
你會到一個可以躺下的地方。
你會到一個可以躺下的地方。
11:17
So it's the three basic positions
of the human body,
of the human body,
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所以這是人類基本的三個動作--
11:19
sitting, standing and lying.
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坐著、站著、躺著，
11:21
And slow walking.
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及慢步走。
11:22
And there is a sound chamber.
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然後有一個聲音室。
11:24
And then after you've seen all of this,
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你領會完全部這些後，
並把自己的身心準備好，
11:26
and prepared yourself
mentally and physically,
mentally and physically,
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11:29
then you are ready to see
something with a long duration,
something with a long duration,
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然後你已準備好要花一段
長時間去領會某件事了，
長時間去領會某件事了，
11:31
like in immaterial art.
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像是在非物質藝術裡一樣。
11:34
It can be music, it can be opera,
it can be a theater piece,
it can be a theater piece,
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它可以是音樂、歌劇、劇場作品...
可以是影片、跳舞影像...
11:38
it can be film, it can be video dance.
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你會在長躺椅上，因為你現在很舒服。
11:40
You go to the long duration chairs
because now you are comfortable.
because now you are comfortable.
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在長躺椅上，
11:44
In the long duration chairs,
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11:46
you're transported to the big place
where you're going to see the work.
where you're going to see the work.
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你會被送到一個大空間，
一個你將領會作品的地方
一個你將領會作品的地方
如果你睡著，
11:49
And if you fall asleep,
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11:51
which is very possible
because it's been a long day,
because it's been a long day,
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那是有可能的，因為是很長的一天。
11:53
you're going to be
transported to the parking lot.
transported to the parking lot.
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你會被送到停車場。
11:56
(Laughter)
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( 笑聲 )
11:57
And you know, sleeping is very important.
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你也知道，睡眠很重要。
12:00
In sleeping, you're still receiving art.
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在睡眠時，你仍在接收藝術。
12:03
So in the parking lot you stay
for a certain amount of time,
for a certain amount of time,
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所以在停車場，你會停留一陣時間，
之後，你只要，你知道的，回家
12:07
and then after this
you just, you know, go back,
you just, you know, go back,
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你會對你想的事會有更多的領悟，
12:10
you see more of the things you like to see
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12:12
or go home with your certificate.
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或者拿著認證回家。
12:15
So this institute right now is virtual.
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現在這個機構是虛擬的，
目前，我正在巴西建立這個機構，
12:18
Right now, I am just
making my institute in Brazil,
making my institute in Brazil,
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它也將會到澳洲建立，
12:21
then it's going to be in Australia,
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12:23
then it's coming here,
to Canada and everywhere.
to Canada and everywhere.
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現在它來到這裡，到加拿大及每個地方，
12:26
And this is to experience
a kind of simple method,
a kind of simple method,
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用簡單的方法去經歷體驗，
12:29
how you go back to simplicity
in your own life.
in your own life.
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在你的生命中，
如何回到簡單樸質的生活？
如何回到簡單樸質的生活？
12:32
Counting rice will be another thing.
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" 數米 "也是另一種方法。
12:35
(Laughter)
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( 笑聲 )
你知道，如果你數米，你也能過活的。
12:37
You know, if you count rice
you can make life, too.
you can make life, too.
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12:40
How to count rice for six hours?
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要怎麼數米數6小時?
12:42
It's incredibly important.
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這相當重要。
12:44
You know, you go through this whole range
of being bored, being angry,
of being bored, being angry,
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你知道的，整個過程你會覺得無聊、生氣、
12:48
being completely frustrated, not finishing
the amount of rice you're counting.
the amount of rice you're counting.
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相當氣餒，沒辦法數完你要數的米。
但當令人滿意的作品完成後，
12:52
And then this unbelievable
amount of peace you get
amount of peace you get
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12:55
when satisfying work is finished --
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你卻會得到無法置信的心靈平靜。
12:58
or counting sand in the desert.
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或者在沙漠中"數沙粒"，
或是經歷 " 聲音隔離 "狀態--
13:00
Or having the sound-isolated situation --
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13:04
that you have headphones,
that you don't hear anything,
that you don't hear anything,
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就是你雖有耳機，但你卻聽不到任何聲音，
13:06
and you're just there
together without sound,
together without sound,
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而你們只是在那個無聲的
地方聚集在一起，
地方聚集在一起，
13:09
with the people experiencing silence,
just the simple silence.
just the simple silence.
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一起與其他人體驗寂靜，
很單純的寂靜狀態。
很單純的寂靜狀態。
13:14
We are always doing things
we like in our life.
we like in our life.
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在我們生命中，
我們總是在做我們喜歡的事。
我們總是在做我們喜歡的事。
13:18
And this is why you're not changing.
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而這也是為什麼你沒有改變。
13:20
You do things in life --
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在你生命中做的事--
如果你總是用同樣的方式在做事，
不會有事情發生。
不會有事情發生。
13:22
it's just nothing happens
if you always do things the same way.
if you always do things the same way.
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13:26
But my method is to do things
I'm afraid of, the things I fear,
I'm afraid of, the things I fear,
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但我的方法是：去做我害怕的事、
我不懂的事、
13:31
the things I don't know,
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13:32
to go to territory
that nobody's ever been.
that nobody's ever been.
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去到沒人到達過的領域，
13:35
And then also to include the failure.
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而這也包含失敗。
我認為失敗很重要。
13:38
I think failure is important
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13:40
because if you go,
if you experiment, you can fail.
if you experiment, you can fail.
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因為如果你往前、去體驗，你可能會失敗。
但如果你躊躇不前、不去經歷失敗，
13:44
If you don't go into that area
and you don't fail,
and you don't fail,
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13:46
you are actually repeating yourself
over and over again.
over and over again.
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那你只是不斷地在原地、
重複循環罷了。
重複循環罷了。
13:50
And I think that human beings
right now need a change,
right now need a change,
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我認為人類現在需要改變，
13:54
and the only change to be made
is a personal level change.
is a personal level change.
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而唯一要改變的
僅是個人層面的改變。
僅是個人層面的改變。
你必須在自己身上做出改變，
13:58
You have to make the change on yourself.
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14:00
Because the only way
to change consciousness
to change consciousness
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因為唯一改變意識的方法、
唯一改變我們周遭的世界的方法，
14:03
and to change the world around us,
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就是從你自身做起。
14:05
is to start with yourself.
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14:07
It's so easy to criticize
how it's different,
how it's different,
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我們很容易批評
今非昔比、
今非昔比、
世界上有這麼多錯事，
14:09
the things in the world
and they're not right,
and they're not right,
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14:11
and the governments are corrupted
and there's hunger in the world
and there's hunger in the world
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政府的腐敗、世界的飢荒...
14:15
and there's wars -- the killing.
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戰爭、殺戮等等....
但我們在個人層面改變所做的事--
14:18
But what we do on the personal level --
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14:21
what is our contribution
to this whole thing?
to this whole thing?
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我們在這些事情上的貢獻會是甚麼呢?
現在，可以請各位轉向面對你的鄰居？
14:24
Can you turn to your neighbor,
the one you don't know,
the one you don't know,
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14:28
and look at them for two full minutes
in their eyes, right now?
in their eyes, right now?
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找一個你不認識的人，
專注的看著他們的眼睛2分鐘
專注的看著他們的眼睛2分鐘
14:33
(Chatter)
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( 交談聲 )
14:38
I'm asking two minutes
of your time, that's so little.
of your time, that's so little.
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請各位給我2分鐘時間，這時間很短。
14:42
Breathe slowly, don't try to blink,
don't be self-conscious.
don't be self-conscious.
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慢慢呼吸，眼神不要閃爍或感覺不自在
放輕鬆...
14:47
Be relaxed.
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14:49
And just look a complete
stranger in your eyes, in his eyes.
stranger in your eyes, in his eyes.
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把一個完全不認識的人，
看進你的眼裡、看進他的眼裡。
看進你的眼裡、看進他的眼裡。
14:55
(Silence)
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( 安靜 )
15:35
Thank you for trusting me.
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謝謝你們信任我。
15:37
(Applause)
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( 掌聲 )
Chris Anderson：謝謝妳。
15:45
Chris Anderson: Thank you.
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非常謝謝你。
15:48
Thank you so much.
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Marina Abramović - Performance artistIn her performances she’s been cut, burned, and nearly shot -- but Marina Abramović's boldest work yet is a gargantuan institute dedicated to transformation through art.
Why you should listen
Marina Abramović burst onto the '70s art scene with cathartic performances that tested the limits of spectator participation and personal safety. The Artist Is Present, a Museum of Modern Art performance in which thousands of viewers queued for hours to face Abramović across a table, moved many to tears, and launched Abramović into mainstream celebrity.
Her latest work-in-progress is the MAI (Marina Abramović Institute), a sprawling upstate New York complex devoted to the preservation of durational performance pieces, arts education and the pursuit of heightened consciousness through Abramović’s artistic practices.
Marina Abramović | Speaker | TED.com