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Madeleine Albright - Former US Secretary of State
Since leaving office as US Secretary of State in 2001, Madeleine Albright has continued her distinguished career in foreign affairs as a businesswoman, political adviser and professor.

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Madeleine Albright is one of America’s leading authorities on foreign affairs. Unanimously confirmed as the first female Secretary of State in 1997, she became the highest-ranking woman in U.S. government history. During her four-year tenure, Albright reinforced U.S. alliances, advocated for democracy and human rights, and promoted American trade, business, labor and environmental standards abroad.

Since then, Albright has continued her distinguished career as a businesswoman, political adviser and professor. She is chair of Albright Stonebridge Group, a global strategy firm, and Albright Capital Management LLC, an investment advisory firm focused on emerging markets. Albright also chairs the National Democratic Institute for International Affairs and the Pew Global Attitudes Project and serves on the boards of the Council on Foreign Relations, the Aspen Institute and the Center for a New American Security. She also teaches diplomacy at Georgetown’s School of Foreign Service.

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TEDWomen 2010

Madeleine Albright: On being a woman and a diplomat

Madeleine Albright: Biti žena i diplomatkinja

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Bivša američka državna tajnica Madeleine Albright govori otvoreno o politici i diplomaciji te o tome kako žene zaslužuju mjesto u vanjskoj politici. Daleko od toga da su "laki" problemi, ona kaže, ženski problemi su često vrlo teški, suočavajući se izravno s pitanjem života i smrti. Iskrena i smiješna seansa pitanja i odgovora s Pat Mitchell iz Paley centra.
- Former US Secretary of State
Since leaving office as US Secretary of State in 2001, Madeleine Albright has continued her distinguished career in foreign affairs as a businesswoman, political adviser and professor. Full bio

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PatPat MitchellMitchell: What is the storypriča of this pinigla?
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Pat Mitchell: Koja je priča ovog broša?
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MadeleineMadeleine AlbrightAlbright: This is "BreakingRazbijanje the GlassStaklo CeilingStrop."
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Madeleine Albright: Ovo je lomljenje staklenog stropa.
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PMPM: Oh.
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PM: Oh.
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That was well chosenodabran, I would say, for TEDWomenTEDWomen.
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Ovo je vrlo dobro odabrano, rekla bih, za TEDWomen.
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MAMA: MostVećina of the time I spendprovesti when I get up in the morningjutro
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MA: Većinu vremena kada se ustajem ujutro
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is tryingtežak to figurelik out what is going to happendogoditi se.
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provedem pokušavajući shvatiti što će se dogoditi.
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And nonenijedan of this pinigla stuffstvari would have happeneddogodilo
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I nijedna od ovih stvari s broševima se ne bi dogodila
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if it hadn'tnije been for SaddamSaddam HusseinHusein.
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da nije bilo Saddama Husseina.
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I'll tell you what happeneddogodilo.
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Reći ću vam što se dogodilo.
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I wentotišao to the UnitedUjedinjeni NationsNaroda as an ambassadorAmbasador,
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Krenula sam prema Ujedinjenim Narodima kao ambasadorica.
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and it was after the GulfZaljev WarRat,
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I to je bilo nakon Zaljevskog rata.
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and I was an instructedinstrukcije ambassadorAmbasador.
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A ja sam bila upućena ambasadorica.
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And the cease-fireprekid vatre had been translatedpreveo
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Prekid vatre je bio preveden
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into a seriesniz of sanctionssankcije resolutionsRezolucija,
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u niz sankcijskih rezolucija
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and my instructionsinstrukcije
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i moje upute
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were to say perfectlysavršeno terribleužasan things about SaddamSaddam HusseinHusein constantlykonstantno,
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su bile neprestano govoriti stvarno užasne stvari o Saddamu Husseinu,
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whichkoji he deservedZaslužio -- he had invadednapali anotherjoš countryzemlja.
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što je on i zaslužio -- on je napao drugu zemlju.
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And so all of a suddennaglo, a poempjesma appearedpojavio se in the papersnovine in BaghdadBagdad
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I odjednom, pjesma se pojavila u novinama u Baghdadu
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comparinguspoređivanje me to manymnogi things,
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uspoređujući me s mnogim stvarima,
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but amongmeđu them an "unparalleledbesprimjeran serpentzmija."
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ali između ostaloga i s gujom.
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And so I happeneddogodilo to have a snakezmija pinigla.
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A ja sam imala broš s likom zmije.
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So I worenosio it when we talkedRazgovarao about IraqIrak.
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I nosila sam je kada smo pričali o Iraku.
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(LaughterSmijeh)
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(Smijeh)
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And when I wentotišao out to meetsastati the presstisak,
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I kada sam izašla na susret s novinarima,
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they zeroedznaju gdje in, said, "Why are you wearingnošenje that snakezmija pinigla?"
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odmjerili su me rekavši, "Zašto nosite taj broš s likom zmije?"
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I said, "Because SaddamSaddam HusseinHusein comparedu odnosu me to an unparalleledbesprimjeran serpentzmija."
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Odogovorila sam, "Zato što me Saddam Hussein usporedio s gujom".
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And then I thought, well this is funzabava.
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Tada sam pomislila kako je ovo zabavno.
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So I wentotišao out and I boughtkupio a lot of pinsigle
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I izašla sam i kupila mnogo broševa
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that would, in factčinjenica, reflectodraziti
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koji bi zapravo pokazivali
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what I thought we were going to do on any givendan day.
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što sam mislila da ćemo raditi taj dan.
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So that's how it all startedpočeo.
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I tako je sve to počelo.
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PMPM: So how largeveliki is the collectionkolekcija?
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PM: I koliko je kolekcija sada velika?
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MAMA: Prettylijep bigvelika.
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MA: Prilično velika.
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It's now travelingputujući.
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Sada putuje.
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At the momenttrenutak it's in IndianapolisIndianapolis,
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U ovom trenutku je u Indianapolisu,
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but it was at the SmithsonianSmithsonian.
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ali prije je bila u Smithsonianu.
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And it goeside with a bookrezervirati that sayskaže, "ReadČitanje My PinsIgle."
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I u kompletu je s knjigom koja se zove, "Čitaj s mojih broševa".
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(LaughterSmijeh)
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PMPM: So is this a good ideaideja.
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PM: Je li to dobra ideja?
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I rememberzapamtiti when you were the first womanžena
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Sjećam se kada ste bili prva žena
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as SecretaryTajnik of StateDržava,
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kao državna tajnica
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and there was a lot of conversationrazgovor always
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i bilo je uvijek dosta razgovora
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about what you were wearingnošenje,
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o tome što ste nosili,
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how you lookedgledao --
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kako ste izgledali --
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the thing that happensdogađa se to a lot of womenžene,
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stvari koje se događaju mnogim ženama,
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especiallyposebno if they're the first in a positionpoložaj.
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naročito ako su prve na nekom položaju.
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So how do you feel about that -- the wholečitav --
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Što mislite o svemu tome?
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MAMA: Well, it's prettyprilično irritatingiritantan actuallyzapravo
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MA: Pa, to je zapravo prilično iritantno
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because nobodynitko ever describesopisuje what a man is wearingnošenje.
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zato što nitko nikada ne govori o tome što muškarac nosi.
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But people did payplatiti attentionpažnja to what clothesodjeća I had.
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Ali ljudi su obraćali pozornost na odjeću koju sam ja imala.
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What was interestingzanimljiv was that,
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Što je bilo zanimljivo je to da,
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before I wentotišao up to NewNovi YorkYork as U.N. ambassadorAmbasador,
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prije nego sam otišla u New York kao UN-ova ambasadorica,
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I talkedRazgovarao to JeaneJeane KirkpatrickKirkpatrick, who'dtko bi been ambassadorAmbasador before me,
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pričala sam s Jeane Kirkpatrick koja je bila ambasadorica prije mene
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and she said, "You've got to get ridosloboditi of your professorprofesor clothesodjeća.
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i ona je rekla, "Moraš se riješiti svoje profesorske odjeće.
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Go out and look like a diplomatdiplomata."
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Idi van i izgledaj kao diplomatkinja".
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So that did give me a lot of opportunitiesprilike to go shoppingkupovina.
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To mi je dalo dosta prilika da idem u kupovinu.
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But still, there were all kindsvrste of questionspitanja
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Ali ipak, bilo je svih vrsta pitanja
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about -- "did you wearnositi a hatšešir?" "How shortkratak was your skirtsuknja?"
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kao, jesi li nosila šešir? Koliko je kratka tvoja suknja?
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And one of the things --
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I jedna od stvari --
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if you rememberzapamtiti CondoleezzaKondoliza RiceRiža was at some eventdogađaj and she worenosio bootsčizme,
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ako se sjećate kada je Condoleezza Rice jednom prigodom nosila čizme,
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and she got criticizedkritizirao over that.
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bila je kritizirana zbog toga.
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And no guy ever getsdobiva criticizedkritizirao. But that's the leastnajmanje of it.
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Nijedan muškarac nije nikada kritiziran. Ali to je najmanji dio toga.
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PMPM: It is, for all of us, menmuškarci and womenžene,
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PM: To je, za sve nas, muškarce i žene,
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findingnalaz our waysnačine of definingdefiniranje our rolesuloge,
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traženje načina na koji definiramo naše uloge,
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and doing them in waysnačine that make a differencerazlika in the worldsvijet
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radeći s njima na način da učinimo razliku u svijetu
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and shapeoblik the futurebudućnost.
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i oblikujemo budućnost.
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How did you handlerukovati that balanceravnoteža
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Kako ste baratali tom ravnotežom
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betweenizmeđu beingbiće the toughtvrd diplomaticDiplomatski
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između žilave diplomatkinje
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and strongjak voiceglas of this countryzemlja
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i snažnog glasa ove zemlje
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to the restodmor of the worldsvijet
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ostatku svijeta
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and alsotakođer how you feltosjećala about yourselfsami
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i kako ste se osjećali kao
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as a mothermajka, a grandmotherbaka, nurturingnjegovanje ...
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kao majka, kao baka.
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and so how did you handlerukovati that?
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I kako ste rukovali time?
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MAMA: Well the interestingzanimljiv partdio was I was askedpitao
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MA: Bilo je zanimljivo kada su me pitali
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what it was like to be the first womanžena SecretaryTajnik of StateDržava
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kako je biti prva ženska državna tajnica
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a fewnekoliko minutesminuta after I'd been namedpod nazivom.
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nekoliko minuta nakon što su me imenovali.
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And I said, "Well I've been a womanžena for 60 yearsgodina,
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Ja sam odgovorila, "Pa, bila sam žena 60 godina,
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but I've only been SecretaryTajnik of StateDržava for a fewnekoliko minutesminuta."
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ali državna tajnica sam tek nekoliko minuta".
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So it evolvedrazvio.
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Tako da je evoluiralo.
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(LaughterSmijeh)
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But basicallyu osnovi I love beingbiće a womanžena.
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Ali u osnovi, ja volim biti žena.
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And so what happeneddogodilo --
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I što se dogodilo --
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and I think there will probablyvjerojatno be some people in the audiencepublika
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mislim kako će biti nekoliko ljudi u publici
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that will identifyidentificirati with this --
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koji će se prepoznati u ovome --
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I wentotišao to my first meetingsastanak, first at the U.N.,
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otišla sam na svoj prvi sastanak, prvo u UN.
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and that's when this all startedpočeo,
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I tada je sve to počelo,
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because that is a very malemuški organizationorganizacija.
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zato što je to organizacija puna muškaraca.
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And I'm sittingsjedenje there -- there are 15 membersčlanovi of the SecuritySigurnost CouncilVijeća --
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I ja sam sjedila tamo -- bilo je 15 članova Odbora za sigurnost --
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so 14 menmuškarci satsat there staringzurenje at me,
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i tako je 14 muškaraca sjedilo buljeći u mene
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and I thought -- well you know how we all are.
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i ja sam mislila -- znate kakvi smo svi mi.
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You want to get the feelingosjećaj of the roomsoba,
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Želite se malo priviknuti na prostoriju
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and "do people like me?"
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i da vas ljudi zavole
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and "will I really say something intelligentinteligentan?"
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i želite reći nešto inteligentno.
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And all of a suddennaglo I thought, "Well, wait a minuteminuta.
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I samo odjednom sam se sjetila, pa čekaj malo.
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I am sittingsjedenje behindiza a signznak that sayskaže 'The' U UnitedUjedinjeni StatesDržava,'
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Ja sjedima iza znaka na kojem piše "Sjedinjene Države".
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and if I don't speakgovoriti todaydanas
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I ako ne progovorim danas,
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then the voiceglas of the UnitedUjedinjeni StatesDržava will not be heardčuo,"
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tada se glas Sjedinjenih Država neće čuti.
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and it was the first time that I had that feelingosjećaj
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I to je bilo prvi put da sam imala taj osjećaj
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that I had to stepkorak out of myselfsebe
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kako se trebam odvojiti od svoje normalne sebe
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in my normalnormalan, reluctantprotiv volje femaležena modenačin
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u svom normalnom, bojažljivom ženskom stilu
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and decideodlučiti that I had to speakgovoriti on behalfkorist of our countryzemlja.
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i da trebam odlučiti da ću govoriti u ime naše zemlje.
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And so that happeneddogodilo more at variousraznovrstan timesputa,
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I to se dogodilo puno puta,
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but I really think that there was a great advantageprednost in manymnogi waysnačine
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ali mislim kako je bila velika prednost u puno stvari
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to beingbiće a womanžena.
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u tome što sam žena.
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I think we are a lot better
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Mislim kako smo mi bolje
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at personalosobni relationshipsodnosa,
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kada se radi o osobnim vezama
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and then have the capabilitysposobnost obviouslyočito
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i da očito imamo mogućnost
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of tellingreći it like it is when it's necessarypotreban.
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govoriti onako kako treba kada je to potrebno.
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But I have to tell you, I have my youngestnajmlađi granddaughterunuka,
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Ali moram vam reći, moja najmlađa unuka,
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when she turnedokrenut sevensedam last yeargodina,
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kada je prošle godine navršila sedam godina,
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said to her mothermajka, my daughterkći,
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rekla je svojoj majci, mojoj kćeri,
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"So what's the bigvelika dealdogovor about GrandmaBaka MaddieMedi beingbiće SecretaryTajnik of StateDržava?
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"Što je tako bitno u tome da je baka Maddie Državna tajnica?"
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Only girlsdjevojke are SecretaryTajnik of StateDržava."
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Samo žene su Državne tajnice".
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(LaughterSmijeh)
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(Smijeh)
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PMPM: Because in her lifetimedoživotno -- MAMA: That would be so.
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PM: Zato što u njezinom životu -- (MA: To bi bilo tako.)
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PMPM: What a changepromijeniti that is.
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PM: Koja je to promjena.
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As you travelputovati now all over the worldsvijet,
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Sada kada putujete diljem svijeta,
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whichkoji you do frequentlyčesto,
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i to redovito,
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how do you assessprocijeniti
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kako procjenjujete
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this globalglobalno narrativepripovijest around the storypriča of womenžene and girlsdjevojke?
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globalnu temu oko priče o ženama i djevojkama?
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Where are we?
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Gdje smo mi?
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MAMA: I think we're slowlypolako changingmijenjanje,
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MA: Mislim kako se polako mijenjamo,
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but obviouslyočito there are wholečitav pocketsdžepovi
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ali očito postoje velika područja
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in countrieszemlje where nothing is differentdrugačiji.
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u zemljama gdje se ništa nije promijenilo.
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And thereforestoga it meanssredstva that we have to rememberzapamtiti
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I stoga to znači kako to moramo zapamtiti
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that, while manymnogi of us have had hugeogroman opportunitiesprilike --
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dok su mnoge od nas imale ogromne prilike --
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and PatPat, you have been a realstvaran leadervođa in your fieldpolje --
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i Pat, ti si bila pravi vođa u svom području --
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is that there are a lot of womenžene
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i postoji puno žena
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that are not capablesposoban
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koje nisu sposobne
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of worryingzabrinjavajući and takinguzimanje carebriga of themselvesse
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brinuti o sebi
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and understandingrazumijevanje that womenžene have to help other womenžene.
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i shvatiti kako žene moraju pomagati drugim ženama.
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And so what I have feltosjećala --
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I ono što sam osjećala --
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and I have lookedgledao at this
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i gledala sam na to
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from a nationalnacionalna securitysigurnosti issueizdanje --
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iz perspektive nacionalne sigurnosti --
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when I was SecretaryTajnik of StateDržava, I decidedodlučio
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kada sam bila državna tajnica, odlučila sam
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that women'sženski issuespitanja had to be centralsredišnji to AmericanAmerički foreignstrana policypolitika,
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kako problemi žena moraju biti središte američke vanjske politike,
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not just because I'm a feministfeminista,
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ne samo zato jer sam feministkinja,
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but because I believe that societiesdruštva are better off
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već zato jer vjerujem kako bi društva bila bolja
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when womenžene are politicallypolitičko and economicallyekonomično empoweredovlašten,
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kada bi žene bile politički i ekonomski osnažene,
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that valuesvrijednosti are passedprošao down,
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te vrijednosti se zatim prenose,
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the healthzdravlje situationsituacija is better,
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stanje zdravstva bi bilo bolje,
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educationobrazovanje is better,
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obrazovanje bi bilo bolje,
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there is greaterviše economicekonomski prosperityprosperitet.
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ekonomski prosperitet bi bio veći.
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So I think that it behoovesbehooves us --
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Mislim kako nam to dolikuje --
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those of us that liveživjeti in variousraznovrstan countrieszemlje
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i one od nas koje žive u različitim državama
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where we do have economicekonomski and politicalpolitički voiceglas --
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gdje imamo ekonomski i politički glas --
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that we need to help other womenžene.
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mislim kako moramo pomoći drugim ženama.
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And I really dedicatedposvećen myselfsebe to that,
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Ja sam se tome stvarno posvetila
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bothoba at the U.N. and then as SecretaryTajnik of StateDržava.
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i kod UN-a i zatim kao državna tajnica.
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PMPM: And did you get pushbackotpor
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from makingizrađivanje that a centralsredišnji tenantstanar of foreignstrana policypolitika?
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kada ste željeli to postaviti kao centralni dio vanjske politike?
06:32
MAMA: From some people.
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MA: Neki ljudi.
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I think that they thought that it was a softmekan issueizdanje.
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Mislim kako su oni mislili kako je to lagan problem.
06:37
The bottomdno linecrta that I decidedodlučio
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Na kraju sam zaključila
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was actuallyzapravo women'sženski issuespitanja are the hardestnajteži issuespitanja,
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da su ženski problemi najteži,
06:42
because they are the onesone that have to do with life and deathsmrt
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jer su one te koje imaju veze sa životom i smrću
06:45
in so manymnogi aspectsaspekti,
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u toliko mnogo pogleda --
06:47
and because, as I said,
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i zbog toga, kao što sam rekla,
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it is really centralsredišnji to the way that we think about things.
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to je zbilja bitno u načinu na koji razmišljamo o stvarima.
06:52
Now for instanceprimjer,
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Sada, na primjer,
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some of the warsratovi that tookuzeo placemjesto
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u nekim ratovima koji su trajali
06:56
when I was in officeured,
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dok sam ja bila u uredu,
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a lot of them, the womenžene were the mainglavni victimsžrtve of it.
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većinom su žene bile glavne žrtve.
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For instanceprimjer, when I startedpočeo,
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Na primjer, kada sam počela,
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there were warsratovi in the BalkansBalkana.
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trajao je rat na Balkanu.
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The womenžene in BosniaBosna were beingbiće rapedsilovan.
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Žene u Bosni su bile silovane.
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We then managedupravlja to setset up a warrat crimesza zločine tribunalsud
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Uspjeli smo osnovati tribunal za ratne zločine
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to dealdogovor specificallyposebno with those kindsvrste of issuespitanja.
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koji će se baviti točno tim vrstama problema.
07:15
And by the way, one of the things that I did at that stagefaza
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Uostalom, jedna od stvari koje sam napravila u toj fazi
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was, I had just arrivedstigao at the U.N.,
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je, kada sam došla u UN
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and when I was there, there were 183 countrieszemlje in the U.N.
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i kada sam bila tamo, 183 zemlje su bile članice UN-a.
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Now there are 192.
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Sada ih je 192.
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But it was one of the first timesputa that I didn't have to cookkuhati lunchručak myselfsebe.
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Ali to je bio jedan od prvih puta kada si nisam sama trebala kuhati ručak.
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So I said to my assistantpomoćnik,
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Stoga sam rekla svojoj asistentici,
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"InvitePozvati the other womenžene permanenttrajan representativespredstavnici."
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"Pozovi i ostale žene trajne predstavnice".
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And I thought when I'd get to my apartmentapartman
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Mislila sam kada dođem u svoj stan
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that there'dcrveno be a lot of womenžene there.
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kako će tamo biti puno žena.
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I get there, and there are sixšest other womenžene, out of 183.
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Kada sam došla, tamo je bilo šest drugih žena, od njih 183.
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So the countrieszemlje that had womenžene representativespredstavnici
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Zemlje koje su imale ženske predstavnice
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were CanadaKanada, KazakhstanKazakstan, PhilippinesFilipini,
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su bile Kanada, Kazakhstan, Filipini,
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TrinidadTrinidad TobagoTobago, JamaicaJamajka,
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Trinidad Tobago, Jamajka,
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LichtensteinLichtenstein and me.
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Lihtenštajn i ja.
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So beingbiće an AmericanAmerički, I decidedodlučio to setset up a caucuskluba.
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Zato što sam Amerikanka, odlučila sam sazvati sastanak.
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(LaughterSmijeh)
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(Smijeh)
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And so we setset it up,
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I organizirale smo ga
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and we calledzvao ourselvessebe the G7.
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i nazvale smo se G7.
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(LaughterSmijeh)
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(Smijeh)
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PMPM: Is that "GirlDjevojka 7?" MAMA: GirlDjevojka 7.
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PM: Je li to cura sedam? (MA: Cura sedam.)
08:04
And we lobbiedlobirao
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MA: I lobirale smo
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on behalfkorist of women'sženski issuespitanja.
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u korist ženskih prava.
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So we managedupravlja to get two womenžene judgessuci
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Uspjele smo dovesti dvije ženske sutkinje
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on this warrat crimesza zločine tribunalsud.
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na taj tribunal za ratne zločine.
08:13
And then what happeneddogodilo
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I što se tada dogodilo
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was that they were ableu stanju to declareproglasiti that rapesilovanje was a weaponoružje of warrat,
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jest to da su bile sposobne izjaviti kako je silovanje ratno oružje,
08:18
that it was againstprotiv humanityčovječanstvo.
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kako je to protiv ljudskosti.
08:20
(ApplausePljesak)
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PMPM: So when you look around the worldsvijet
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PM: Dakle, kada pogledate širom svijeta
08:27
and you see that, in manymnogi casesslučajevi --
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i vidite kako u mnogo slučajeva --
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certainlysigurno in the WesternZapadni worldsvijet --
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naročito u zapadnom svijetu --
08:31
womenžene are evolvingrazvojni into more leadershiprukovodstvo positionspozicije,
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žene evoluiraju na više vodećih pozicija
08:34
and even other placesmjesta
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i čak na drugim mjestima
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some barriersbarijere are beingbiće broughtdonio down,
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neke barijere su srušene,
08:39
but there's still so much violencenasilje,
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ali još uvijek postoji toliko mnogo nasilja,
08:42
still so manymnogi problemsproblemi,
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još uvijek toliko mnogo problema,
08:44
and yetjoš we hearčuti there are more womenžene
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a ipak čujemo kako ima sve više žena
08:46
at the negotiatingpregovarački tablesstolovi.
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za pregovaračkim stolovima.
08:48
Now you were at those negotiatingpregovarački tablesstolovi
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Tada ste se nalazili za tim pregovaračkim stolovima
08:50
when they weren'tnisu, when there was maybe you --
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kada drugih nije bilo, kada ste možda bili vi --
08:53
one voiceglas, maybe one or two othersdrugi.
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jedan glas, možda jedan ili dva druga.
08:55
Do you believe, and can you tell us why,
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Vjerujete li i možete li nam reći zašto,
08:58
there is going to be a significantznačajan shiftsmjena
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će doći do značajnog preokreta
09:01
in things like violencenasilje
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u stvarima poput nasilja
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and peacemir and conflictsukob and resolutionrezolucija
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i mira i sukoba i rješenja
09:06
on a sustainableodrživ basisosnova?
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na održivoj bazi?
09:08
MAMA: Well I do think, when there are more womenžene,
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MA: Pa ja mislim, kada ima više žena,
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that the toneton of the conversationrazgovor changespromjene,
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ton samog razogovora se mijenja
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and alsotakođer the goalsciljevi of the conversationrazgovor changepromijeniti.
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i ciljevi razgovora se mijenjaju.
09:18
But it doesn't mean that the wholečitav worldsvijet
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Ali to ne znači kako bi cijeli svijet
09:20
would be a lot better
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bio puno bolji
09:22
if it were totallypotpuno runtrčanje by womenžene.
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kada bi ga u potpunosti vodile žene.
09:24
If you think that, you've forgottenzaboravljen highvisok schoolškola.
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Ako mislite to, zaboravili ste na srednju školu.
09:27
(LaughterSmijeh)
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(Smijeh)
09:30
But the bottomdno linecrta
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Zaključak
09:32
is that there is a way,
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je da postoji način,
09:34
when there are more womenžene at the tablestol,
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kada je više žena za stolom,
09:37
that there's an attemptpokušaj
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postoji težnja
09:39
to developrazviti some understandingrazumijevanje.
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da se razvije neko razumijevanje.
09:41
So for instanceprimjer, what I did when I wentotišao to BurundiBurundi,
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Dakle, na primjer, ono što sam učinila kada sam otišla u Burundi,
09:44
we'dmi bismo got TutsiTutsi and HutuHutu womenžene togetherzajedno
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sazvali bi Tutsi i Hutu žene zajedno
09:47
to talk about some of the problemsproblemi
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kako bi popričali o nekim od problema
09:49
that had takenpoduzete placemjesto in RwandaRuandi.
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koji su se dogodili u Ruandi.
09:51
And so I think the capabilitysposobnost of womenžene
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Stoga mislim kako je sposobnost žena
09:54
to put themselvesse --
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da se stave --
09:56
I think we're better about puttingstavljanje ourselvessebe into the other guy'stip je shoescipele
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mislim kako smo bolje u pokušaju da stavimo sebe u položaj drugih
09:59
and havingima more empathysuosjecanje.
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i da imamo više suosjećanja.
10:01
I think it helpspomaže in termsUvjeti of the supportpodrška
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Mislim kako to pomaže u terminima podrške
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if there are other womenžene in the roomsoba.
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ukoliko ima drugih žena u prostoriji.
10:06
When I was SecretaryTajnik of StateDržava,
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Kada sam bila Državna tajnica,
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there were only 13 other womenžene foreignstrana ministersMinistri.
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bilo je samo 13 drugih žena ministrica vanjske politike.
10:11
And so it was nicelijepo when one of them would showpokazati up.
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I stoga je bilo lijepo kada bi se jedna od njih pojavila.
10:14
For instanceprimjer, she is now the presidentpredsjednik of FinlandFinska,
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Na primjer, ona je sada predsjednica FInske,
10:17
but TarjaTarja HalonenHalonen was the foreignstrana ministerministar of FinlandFinska
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ali Tarja Halonen je bila ministrica vanjskih poslova Finske
10:20
and, at a certainsiguran stagefaza, headglava of the EuropeanEuropski UnionUnije.
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i na određenoj razini, vođa Europske Unije.
10:23
And it was really terrificSjajno.
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I to je bilo doista odlično.
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Because one of the things I think you'llvi ćete understandrazumjeti.
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Jer jednu od stvari mislim kako ćete shvatiti.
10:27
We wentotišao to a meetingsastanak,
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Otišli smo na sastanak
10:29
and the menmuškarci in my delegationDelegacija,
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i muškarci u mojoj delegaciji,
10:31
when I would say, "Well I feel we should do something about this,"
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kada bih ja rekla, "Pa osjećam kako bi morali nešto napraviti po tom pitanju",
10:34
and they'doni bi say, "What do you mean, you feel?"
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oni bi rekli, "Kako to mislite, vi osjećate?"
10:37
And so then TarjaTarja was sittingsjedenje acrosspreko the tablestol from me.
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I tada je Tarja sjedila preko puta mog stola.
10:40
And all of a suddennaglo we were talkingkoji govori about armsoružje controlkontrolirati,
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I odjednom smo pričale o kontroli naoružanja
10:43
and she said, "Well I feel we should do this."
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i ona je rekla, "Pa osjećam kako bismo to trebali učiniti".
10:45
And my malemuški colleagueskolege kindljubazan of got it all of a suddennaglo.
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I svi moji muški kolege odjedno su shvatili.
10:48
But I think it really does help
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Ali mislim kako doista pomaže
10:50
to have a criticalkritično massmasa of womenžene
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imati kritičnu masu žena
10:53
in a seriesniz of foreignstrana policypolitika positionspozicije.
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na nizu poziciju u vanjskoj politici.
10:56
The other thing that I think is really importantvažno:
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Druga stvar za koju mislim kako je doista važna:
10:59
A lot of nationalnacionalna securitysigurnosti policypolitika
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dosta državne sigurnosne politike
11:01
isn't just about foreignstrana policypolitika,
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nije samo o vanjskoj politici,
11:03
but it's about budgetsproračuni, militaryvojni budgetsproračuni,
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nego je i o budžetima, vojnim budžetima
11:06
and how the debtsdugove of countrieszemlje work out.
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i kako riješiti dugove zemalja.
11:09
So if you have womenžene
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Stoga ako imate žene
11:11
in a varietyraznolikost of foreignstrana policypolitika postspostova,
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na različitim mjestima u vanjskoj politici
11:14
they can supportpodrška eachsvaki other
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one mogu pružiti potporu jedna drugoj
11:16
when there are budgetbudžet decisionsodluke beingbiće madenapravljen in theirnjihov ownvlastiti countrieszemlje.
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kada se donose odluke o budžetu u njihovim zemljama.
11:19
PMPM: So how do we get
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PM: Dakle, kako postignemo
11:21
this balanceravnoteža we're looking for, then, in the worldsvijet?
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tu ravnotežu kojoj stremimo u svijetu?
11:24
More women'sženski voicesglasovi at the tablestol?
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Više ženskih glasova za stolom?
11:26
More menmuškarci who believe
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Više muškaraca koji vjeruju
11:28
that the balanceravnoteža is bestnajbolje?
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kako je ravnoteža najbolja?
11:30
MAMA: Well I think one of the things --
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MA: Pa ja mislim kako jedna od stvari:
11:32
I'm chairmanpredsjednik of the boardodbor of an organizationorganizacija
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Predsjednica sam odbora organizacije
11:34
calledzvao the NationalNacionalne DemocraticDemokratske InstituteInstitut
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zvane Nacionalni demokratski institut
11:36
that worksdjela to supportpodrška womenžene candidateskandidata.
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koji radi kako bi pružio podršku ženama kandidatkinjama.
11:39
I think that we need
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Mislim kako trebamo
11:41
to help in other countrieszemlje
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pružiti pomoć u drugim zemljama
11:43
to trainvlak womenžene
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kako bi trenirali žene
11:45
to be in politicalpolitički officeured,
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da budu u političkom uredu,
11:47
to figurelik out how they can in factčinjenica
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da otkriju kako zapravo mogu
11:49
developrazviti politicalpolitički voicesglasovi.
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razviti političke glasove.
11:51
I think we alsotakođer need to be supportivepodržavaju
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Isto tako mislim kako trebamo pružati podršku
11:54
when businessespoduzeća are beingbiće createdstvorio
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kada se poduzeća stvaraju
11:57
and just make sure that womenžene help eachsvaki other.
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i samo omogućiti da žene mogu pomagati jedne drugima.
11:59
Now I have a sayingizreka
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Sada, imam jednu izreku,
12:01
that I feel very stronglysnažno about,
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koje se jako dosljedno držim,
12:03
because I am of a certainsiguran agedob
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jer sam u određenim godinama
12:05
where, when I startedpočeo in my careerkarijera,
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gdje, kada sam započela svoju karijeru,
12:07
believe it or not, there were other womenžene who criticizedkritizirao me:
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vjerovali ili ne, bile druge žene koje su me kritizirale:
12:10
"Why aren'tnisu you in the carpoolreklama linecrta?"
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"Zašto ne čekaj u redu za javni prijevoz?"
12:13
or "Aren'tNisu your childrendjeca sufferingpati
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ili "Ne pate li tvoja djeca
12:15
because you're not there all the time?"
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jer nisi s njima cijelo vrijeme?"
12:17
And I think we have a tendencysklonost to make eachsvaki other feel guiltykriv.
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I mislim kako imamo tendenciju učiniti jedna drugu da se osjećamo krivima.
12:20
In factčinjenica, I think "guiltkrivnje" is everysvaki woman'sženski middlesrednji nameime.
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Zapravo, mislim kako je "krivnja" srednje ime svake žene.
12:24
And so I think what needspotrebe to happendogoditi se
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I stoga mislim kako je ono što se treba dogoditi
12:26
is we need to help eachsvaki other.
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da trebamo pomoći jedne drugima.
12:29
And my mottomoto is that there's a specialposeban placemjesto in hellpakao
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A moj moto je kako postoji posebno mjesto u paklu
12:31
for womenžene who don't help eachsvaki other.
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za žene koje ne pomažu jedne drugima.
12:34
(ApplausePljesak)
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12:42
PMPM: Well SecretaryTajnik AlbrightAlbright, I guessnagađati you'llvi ćete be going to heavenraj.
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PM: Pa državna tajnice Albright, vjerujem kako ćete vi otići u raj.
12:46
Thank you for joiningspajanje us todaydanas.
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Hvala vam što ste se nam pridružili danas.
12:48
MAMA: Thank you all. ThanksHvala PatPat.
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MA: Hvala svima. Hvala Pat.
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(ApplausePljesak)
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(Pljesak)

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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Madeleine Albright - Former US Secretary of State
Since leaving office as US Secretary of State in 2001, Madeleine Albright has continued her distinguished career in foreign affairs as a businesswoman, political adviser and professor.

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Madeleine Albright is one of America’s leading authorities on foreign affairs. Unanimously confirmed as the first female Secretary of State in 1997, she became the highest-ranking woman in U.S. government history. During her four-year tenure, Albright reinforced U.S. alliances, advocated for democracy and human rights, and promoted American trade, business, labor and environmental standards abroad.

Since then, Albright has continued her distinguished career as a businesswoman, political adviser and professor. She is chair of Albright Stonebridge Group, a global strategy firm, and Albright Capital Management LLC, an investment advisory firm focused on emerging markets. Albright also chairs the National Democratic Institute for International Affairs and the Pew Global Attitudes Project and serves on the boards of the Council on Foreign Relations, the Aspen Institute and the Center for a New American Security. She also teaches diplomacy at Georgetown’s School of Foreign Service.

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