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Sebastian Junger: Why veterans miss war
Sebastijan Junger (Sebastian Junger): Zašto veteranima nedostaje rat
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Civilima ne nedostaje rat. Ali vojnicima često nedostaje. Novinar Sebastijan Junger deli svoje iskustvo o priključenju američkim vojnicima u Restrepu, predstraži u avganistanskoj dolini Korengal, gde su se vodile žestoke borbe. Pružajući uvid u "pomereno stanje svesti" koje prati rat, pokazuje nam kako borba pruža vojnicima iskustvo intenzivne povezanosti. Konačno, da li je moguće da vojnicima zapravo nedostaje "sve osim rata"?
Sebastian Junger - Journalist and documentarian
The author of "The Perfect Storm" and the director of the documentaries "Restrepo" and "Korengal," Sebastian Junger tells non-fiction stories with grit and emotion. Full bio
The author of "The Perfect Storm" and the director of the documentaries "Restrepo" and "Korengal," Sebastian Junger tells non-fiction stories with grit and emotion. Full bio
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I'm going to ask and try to answer,
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Postaviću i pokušaću da odgovorim
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in some ways, kind of an uncomfortable question.
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na, na neki način,
prilično neprijatno pitanje.
prilično neprijatno pitanje.
00:19
Both civilians, obviously, and soldiers
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I civili, naravno, i vojnici
00:22
suffer in war;
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ispaštaju u ratu.
00:24
I don't think any civilian has ever missed
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Ne mislim da je ijednom civilu
ikada nedostajao rat,
ikada nedostajao rat,
00:26
the war that they were subjected to.
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rat kom je bio izložen.
00:30
I've been covering wars for almost 20 years,
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Bavim se ratovima skoro 20 godina
00:32
and one of the remarkable things for me
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i meni je neverovatno
00:35
is how many soldiers find themselves missing it.
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koliko vojnika shvati
da im nedostaje rat.
da im nedostaje rat.
00:39
How is it someone can go through
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Kako to da neko može da prođe
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the worst experience imaginable,
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kroz nezamislivo loše iskustvo
00:43
and come home, back to their home,
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i vrati se kući, nazad svojoj kući
00:45
and their family, their country, and miss the war?
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i svojoj porodici, svojoj zemlji
i da mu nedostaje rat?
i da mu nedostaje rat?
00:49
How does that work? What does it mean?
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Šta je svrha toga? Šta to znači?
00:52
We have to answer that question,
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Moramo da odgovorimo na to pitanje,
00:56
because if we don't, it'll be impossible
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jer ako ne odgovorimo, biće nemoguće
00:59
to bring soldiers back
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vojnicima vratiti
01:00
to a place in society where they belong,
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mesto u društvu gde pripadaju
01:04
and I think it'll also be impossible to stop war,
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i mislim da će biti
nemoguće zaustaviti rat,
nemoguće zaustaviti rat,
01:06
if we don't understand how that mechanism works.
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ukoliko ne shvatimo
kako taj mehanizam funkcioniše.
kako taj mehanizam funkcioniše.
01:09
The problem is that war
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Problem je što rat
01:13
does not have a simple, neat truth,
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nema prostu, prikladnu istinu,
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one simple, neat truth.
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jednu prostu, prikladnu istinu.
01:19
Any sane person hates war,
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Svako normalan mrzi rat,
01:21
hates the idea of war,
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mrzi samu predstavu o ratu,
01:23
wouldn't want to have anything to do with it,
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ne želi da ima bilo šta s tim,
01:26
doesn't want to be near it,
doesn't want to know about it.
doesn't want to know about it.
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ne želi da bude blizu njega,
ne želi da zna za njega.
ne želi da zna za njega.
01:29
That's a sane response to war.
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To je razuman odgovor na rat.
01:32
But if I asked all of you in this room,
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No ukoliko bih pitao
sve vas u ovoj prostoriji
sve vas u ovoj prostoriji
01:34
who here has paid money
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ko je od vas platio
01:38
to go to a cinema
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da ode u bioskop
01:40
and be entertained by a Hollywood war movie,
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da ga zabavlja holivudski ratni film,
01:43
most of you would probably raise your hands.
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verovatno bi većina vas podigla ruke.
01:47
That's what's so complicated about war.
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Eto zašto je rat toliko komplikovan.
01:49
And trust me, if a room full of peace-loving people
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I, verujte mi,
ako puna soba ljubitelja mira
ako puna soba ljubitelja mira
01:53
finds something compelling about war,
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pronalazi nešto privlačno u ratu,
01:56
so do 20-year-old soldiers
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tako je i s dvadesetogodišnjim vojnicima
01:59
who have been trained in it, I promise you.
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koji su trenirani za njega,
ovo vam garantujem.
ovo vam garantujem.
02:02
That's the thing that has to be understood.
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To je ono što bi trebalo razumeti.
02:05
I've covered war for about 20 years, as I said,
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Bavim se ratom oko 20 godina,
kao što sam rekao,
kao što sam rekao,
02:08
but my most intense experiences in combat
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ali najintenzivnije iskustvo borbe
02:11
were with American soldiers in Afghanistan.
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sam imao s američkim
vojnicima u Avganistanu.
vojnicima u Avganistanu.
Bejah u Africi, srednjem istoku,
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I've been in Africa, the Middle East,
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Afghanistan in the '90s,
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u Avganistanu tokom devedesetih,
02:18
but it was with American soldiers in 2007, 2008,
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ali sam s američkim vojnicima
2007, 2008,
2007, 2008,
02:22
that I was confronted with
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bio suočen
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very intense combat.
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s veoma žestokom borbom.
02:26
I was in a small valley called the Korengal Valley
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Bio sam u maloj dolini, zvanoj Korengal,
02:28
in eastern Afghanistan.
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u istočnom Avganistanu.
02:31
It was six miles long.
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Bila je duga oko 10 km.
02:33
There were 150 men of
Battle Company in that valley,
Battle Company in that valley,
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Bilo nas je 150
u Borbenoj družini u toj dolini
u Borbenoj družini u toj dolini
02:36
and for a while, while I was there,
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i nakratko, dok sam bio tamo,
02:40
almost 20 percent of all the combat
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skoro 20 procenata celokupne borbe,
02:42
in all of Afghanistan was happening
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u čitavom Avganistanu se dešavalo
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in those six miles.
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u tih 10 km.
02:45
A hundred and fifty men were absorbing
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Sto pedeset ljudi je apsorbovalo
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almost a fifth of the combat for all of NATO forces
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skoro petinu borbe svih NATO snaga
02:51
in the country, for a couple months.
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u zemlji, tokom par meseci.
02:54
It was very intense.
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Bilo je izuzetno žestoko.
Većinu vremena sam
provodio na maloj predstraži
provodio na maloj predstraži
02:56
I spent most of my time at a small outpost
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called Restrepo.
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zvanoj Restrepo.
Nazvana je po medicinskom vodniku
02:59
It was named after the platoon medic
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03:01
that had been killed about two
months into the deployment.
months into the deployment.
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koji je ubijen, otprilike dva
meseca nakon razvrstavanja.
meseca nakon razvrstavanja.
03:04
It was a few plywood B-huts
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Činilo ju je nekoliko baraka od iverice,
03:08
clinging to a side of a ridge,
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koje su se jednom stranom
naslanjale na greben
naslanjale na greben
03:12
and sandbags, bunkers, gun positions,
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i vreće s peskom,
bunkeri, pozicije za oružje
bunkeri, pozicije za oružje
03:16
and there were 20 men up there
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i bilo je tu 20 muškaraca
03:18
of Second Platoon, Battle Company.
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iz drugog voda Borbene družine.
03:20
I spent most of my time up there.
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Uglavnom sam tamo bio.
03:22
There was no running water.
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Nismo imali tekuću vodu.
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There was no way to bathe.
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Nismo se kupali.
03:25
The guys were up there for a month at a time.
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Momci su tamo bili već mesec dana.
03:27
They never even got out of their clothes.
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Nisu se čak ni presvlačili.
03:29
They fought. The worked.
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Borili su se, radili,
03:31
They slept in the same clothes.
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spavali u istoj odeći.
03:33
They never took them off,
and at the end of the month,
and at the end of the month,
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Nisu je svlačili i krajem meseca
03:35
they went back down to the company headquarters,
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odlazili su do glavnog štaba,
03:37
and by then, their clothes were unwearable.
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a do tad, odeća im je već bila nenosiva.
03:39
They burned them and got a new set.
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Spalili bi je i dobili bi novi komplet.
03:42
There was no Internet. There was no phone.
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Nije bilo interneta, ni telefona.
03:43
There was no communication
with the outside world up there.
with the outside world up there.
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Nismo imali kontakt sa spoljnim svetom.
03:47
There was no cooked food.
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Nije bilo kuvane hrane.
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There was nothing up there
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Tamo nije bilo ničega
03:53
that young men typically like:
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što mladi inače vole:
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no cars, no girls, no television, nothing
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ni kola, ni devojaka,
ni televizije, ničega
ni televizije, ničega
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except combat.
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osim borbe.
04:00
Combat they did learn to like.
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Borbe, koju su naučili da vole.
04:04
I remember one day, it was a very hot day
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Sećam se jednog dana, bio je vreo
04:06
in the spring,
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prolećni dan
04:08
and we hadn't been in a fight
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i mi nismo učestvovali u bici
04:10
in a couple of weeks, maybe.
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par nedelja, možda.
04:13
Usually, the outpost was attacked,
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Obično su napadali predstražu,
04:15
and we hadn't seen any
combat in a couple of weeks,
combat in a couple of weeks,
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a mi nismo uopšte videli
borbu par nedelja,
borbu par nedelja,
04:18
and everyone was just stunned
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i svi smo bili prosto zatečeni
04:21
with boredom and heat.
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dosadom i vrućinom.
04:23
And I remember the lieutenant walking past me
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Sećam se da je poručnik prošao pored mene
04:27
sort of stripped to the waist.
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skoro go do pasa.
04:29
It was incredibly hot.
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Bilo je neverovatno toplo.
04:31
Stripped to the waist, walked past me muttering,
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Go do pasa, prošao je
pored mene mrmljajući:
pored mene mrmljajući:
04:34
"Oh God, please someone attack us today."
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"Gospode, kad bi nas neko napao danas."
04:36
That's how bored they were.
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Eto koliko im je bilo dosadno.
04:39
That's war too, is a lieutenant saying,
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I to je rat, poručnik koji govori:
04:42
"Please make something happen
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"Molim te neka se nešto desi,
04:44
because we're going crazy."
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inače ćemo izludeti."
04:46
To understand that,
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Kako biste razumeli to,
04:49
you have to, for a moment,
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morate, nakratko,
04:51
think about combat not morally --
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da razmišljate o borbi,
ne s moralne strane -
ne s moralne strane -
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that's an important job to do —
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to je važan posao -
04:55
but for a moment, don't think about it morally,
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no nakratko, ne mislite o tome etički,
04:57
think about it neurologically.
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mislite o tome s neurološke strane.
05:00
Let's think about what happens in your brain
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Razmislimo o tome
šta se dešava u vašem mozgu
šta se dešava u vašem mozgu
05:02
when you're in combat.
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kada ste u borbi.
05:04
First of all, the experience
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Pre svega, samo iskustvo
05:07
is very bizarre, it's a very bizarre one.
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je bizarno, veoma bizarno.
05:11
It's not what I had expected.
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Nije ono što sam očekivao.
05:14
Usually, you're not scared.
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Uglavnom ne osećate strah.
05:16
I've been very scared in combat,
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Bilo me je veoma strah u toku borbe,
05:18
but most of the time when I was out there,
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ali većinom dok sam bio tamo,
05:20
I wasn't scared.
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nije me bilo strah.
05:21
I was very scared beforehand
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Bilo me je veoma strah pre
05:23
and incredibly scared afterwards,
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i izuzetno me je bilo strah posle,
05:25
and that fear that comes afterwards can last years.
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a taj strah koji dođe posle
može da traje godinama.
može da traje godinama.
05:27
I haven't been shot at in six years,
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Prošlo je šest godina kako sam pogođen,
05:29
and I was woken up very abruptly this morning
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a jutros me naglo probudila
05:32
by a nightmare that I was being strafed by aircraft,
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noćna mora da sam mitraljiran iz aviona,
05:35
six years later.
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šest godina kasnije.
05:36
I've never even been strafed by aircraft,
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Nikada nisam mitraljiran iz aviona,
05:38
and I was having nightmares about it.
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a imao sam noćne more o tome.
05:41
Time slows down.
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Vreme uspori.
05:43
You get this weird tunnel vision.
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Dobiješ taj čudni tunelski vid.
05:45
You notice some details very, very, very accurately
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Primećuješ neke detalje
veoma, veoma, veoma precizno,
veoma, veoma, veoma precizno,
05:49
and other things drop out.
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a sve ostale stvari nestaju.
05:51
It's almost a slightly altered state of mind.
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To skoro da je blago pomerena svest.
05:54
What's happening in your brain
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Ono što se dešava tvom mozgu
05:55
is you're getting an enormous amount of adrenaline
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je da se ogromna količina adrenalina
05:58
pumped through your system.
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pumpa kroz tvoj sistem.
06:00
Young men will go to great lengths
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Nema šta mladi neće uraditi
06:02
to have that experience.
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da dožive to iskustvo.
06:05
It's wired into us.
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To je ugrađeno u nas.
06:08
It's hormonally supported.
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Potpomognuto je hormonima.
06:11
The mortality rate for young men in society
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Stopa smrtnosti mladića u društvu
06:15
is six times what it is for young women
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je šest puta veća od smrtnosti devojaka,
06:18
from violence and from accidents,
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kada su u pitanju nasilje i nesreće.
06:19
just the stupid stuff that young men do:
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Neke od gluposti koje mladići rade:
skaču sa stvari
s kojih ne bi trebalo da skaču,
s kojih ne bi trebalo da skaču,
06:22
jumping off of things they shouldn't jump off of,
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06:24
lighting things on fire they shouldn't light on fire,
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pale stvari koje ne bi trebalo da pale.
06:26
I mean, you know what I'm talking about.
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Mislim, znate o čemu govorim.
06:29
They die at six times the rate
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Umiru šest puta češće
06:31
that young women do.
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od devojaka.
06:32
Statistically, you are safer as a teenage boy,
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Statistički, sigurniji si kao tinejdžer,
06:36
you would be safer in the fire department
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bio bi sigurniji u vatrogasnoj jedinici
06:39
or the police department in most American cities
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ili policijskoj jedinici,
u većini američkih gradova,
u većini američkih gradova,
06:41
than just walking around the
streets of your hometown
streets of your hometown
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nego da samo šetaš
ulicama svog rodnog grada
ulicama svog rodnog grada
06:44
looking for something to do,
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tražeći zabavu,
06:46
statistically.
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statistički.
06:49
You can imagine how that plays out in combat.
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Možete da zamislite
koliko je to korisno u ratu.
koliko je to korisno u ratu.
06:52
At Restrepo, every guy up there was almost killed,
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U Restrepu, svaki čovek je umalo poginuo,
06:55
including me,
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uključujući i mene,
06:57
including my good friend Tim Hetherington,
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i mog dobrog prijatelja Tima Heteringtona,
06:59
who was later killed in Libya.
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koga su kasnije ubili u Libiji.
07:02
There were guys walking around
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Ljudi su šetali naokolo
07:03
with bullet holes in their uniforms,
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s rupama od metaka na uniformama,
07:05
rounds that had cut through the fabric
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hici su im prosekli tkaninu,
07:07
and didn't touch their bodies.
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ali nisu dotakli njihova tela.
07:10
I was leaning against some sandbags one morning,
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Naslanjao sam se jednog jutra
na neke vreće s peskom,
na neke vreće s peskom,
07:13
not much going on, sort of spacing out,
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skoro da se ništa nije dešavalo,
gotovo da sam odlutao,
gotovo da sam odlutao,
07:16
and some sand was kicked into the side of,
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i pesak je pogođen sa strane,
07:20
sort of hit the side of my face.
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nekako me pogodilo u profil.
07:23
Something hit the side of my face,
and I didn't know what it was.
and I didn't know what it was.
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Nešto me je pogodilo u lice,
a ja nisam znao šta.
a ja nisam znao šta.
07:25
You have to understand about bullets
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Morate da razumete da meci
07:26
that they go a lot faster than sound,
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putuju mnogo brže nego zvuk,
07:28
so if someone shoots at you
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zato ako neko puca u vas
07:30
from a few hundred meters,
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s udaljenosti od nekoliko stotina metara,
07:32
the bullet goes by you, or hits you obviously,
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metak će proći pored vas,
ili će vas pogoditi, očigledno,
ili će vas pogoditi, očigledno,
07:35
half a second or so before
the sound catches up to it.
the sound catches up to it.
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otprilike pola sekunda
pre nego što čujete zvuk.
pre nego što čujete zvuk.
07:38
So I had some sand sprayed in the side of my face.
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Dakle, pesak mi je prsnuo u lice.
07:40
Half a second later, I heard dut-dut-dut-dut-duh.
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Pola sekunda kasnije
čuo sam ta-ta-ta-ta.
čuo sam ta-ta-ta-ta.
07:42
It was machine gun fire.
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Pucano je iz mitraljeza.
07:43
It was the first round, the first burst
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Bila je to prva runda, prvi nalet borbe,
07:46
of an hour-long firefight.
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koja je trajala sat vremena.
07:49
What had happened was the bullet hit,
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Ono što se desilo je da je metak pogodio,
07:52
a bullet hit three or four inches
from the side of my head.
from the side of my head.
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metak je pogodio 7 - 10 cm od moje glave.
07:55
Imagine, just think about it, because I certainly did,
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Zamislite, samo razmislite o tome,
ja svakako jesam,
ja svakako jesam,
o uglu odstupanja
koji mi je spasio život.
koji mi je spasio život.
08:00
think about the angle of deviation that saved my life.
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08:02
At 400 meters, it missed me by three inches.
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S udaljenosti od 400 metara,
promašio me za 8 cm.
promašio me za 8 cm.
08:04
Just think about the math on that.
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Razmislite o toj matematici.
08:09
Every guy up there
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Svaki čovek tamo
08:11
had some experience like that,
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imao je slično iskustvo
08:12
at least once, if not many times.
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bar jednom, ako ne i više puta.
08:16
The boys are up there for a year.
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Momci su tamo po godinu dana.
08:18
They got back.
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Vrate se.
08:20
Some of them got out of the Army
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Neki napuste vojsku
08:22
and had tremendous psychological
problems when they got home.
problems when they got home.
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i imaju užasne psihičke probleme
kada se vrate kući.
kada se vrate kući.
08:24
Some of them stayed in the Army
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Neki ostanu u vojsci
08:26
and were more or less okay, psychologically.
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i više-manje su dobro, psihički.
08:29
I was particularly close to a
guy named Brendan O'Byrne.
guy named Brendan O'Byrne.
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Bio sam naročito blizak s momkom
koji se zove Brendan O'Birn.
koji se zove Brendan O'Birn.
08:32
I'm still very good friends with him.
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Još uvek smo dobri prijatelji.
08:34
He came back to the States. He got out of the Army.
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Vratio se u SAD. Napustio je vojsku.
08:37
I had a dinner party one night.
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Napravio sam zabavu jedne noći.
08:39
I invited him,
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Pozvao sam ga
08:41
and he started talking with a woman,
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i on je započeo razgovor s jednom ženom,
08:45
one of my friends,
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mojom prijateljicom,
08:46
and she knew how bad it had been out there,
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ona je znala koliko je loše bilo tamo,
08:49
and she said, "Brendan,
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pa je upitala: "Brendane,
08:51
is there anything at all that you miss about
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postoji li išta što ti nedostaje
08:54
being out in Afghanistan, about the war?"
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iz Avganistana, iz rata?"
08:58
And he thought about it quite a long time,
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On je razmišljao poprilično dugo
09:01
and finally he said, "Ma'am, I miss almost all of it."
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i konačno rekao: "Gospođo,
skoro da mi sve nedostaje."
skoro da mi sve nedostaje."
09:06
And he's one of the most traumatized people
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A on je jedan od najistraumiranijih ljudi
09:09
I've seen from that war.
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koje sam sreo iz tog rata.
09:13
"Ma'am, I miss almost all of it."
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"Gospođo, skoro da mi sve nedostaje."
09:15
What is he talking about?
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O čemu on to priča?
09:18
He's not a psychopath.
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On nije psihopata.
09:21
He doesn't miss killing people.
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Ne nedostaje mu ubijanje ljudi.
09:23
He's not crazy. He doesn't miss getting shot at
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Nije lud. Ne nedostaje mu ranjavanje
09:25
and seeing his friends get killed.
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i da gleda kako ginu njegovi drugovi.
09:27
What is it that he misses? We have to answer that.
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Šta mu tačno nedostaje?
Moramo da odgovorimo na to.
Moramo da odgovorimo na to.
09:31
If we're going to stop war, we
have to answer that question.
have to answer that question.
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Ukoliko želimo da rat prestane,
moramo da odgovorimo na to pitanje.
moramo da odgovorimo na to pitanje.
09:37
I think what he missed is brotherhood.
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Mislim da mu je nedostajalo bratstvo.
09:42
He missed, in some ways,
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Nedostajalo mu je, na neki način,
09:44
the opposite of killing.
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sve osim ubijanja.
09:46
What he missed was connection
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Nedostajala mu je povezanost
09:48
to the other men he was with.
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s muškarcima s kojima je bio.
09:50
Now, brotherhood is different from friendship.
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Sad, bratstvo nije isto
što i prijateljstvo.
što i prijateljstvo.
09:53
Friendship happens in society, obviously.
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Prijateljstva se dešavaju
u društvu, očigledno.
u društvu, očigledno.
09:57
The more you like someone,
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Što vam se više neko sviđa,
09:58
the more you'd be willing to do for them.
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to ste spremniji da mu pomažete.
10:00
Brotherhood has nothing to do
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Bratstvo nema veze
10:02
with how you feel about the other person.
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s tim šta osećate prema drugoj osobi.
10:05
It's a mutual agreement in a group
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To je međusobni dogovor unutar grupe
10:08
that you will put the welfare of the group,
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da ćete staviti dobrobit grupe,
10:10
you will put the safety of everyone in the group
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da ćete staviti
sigurnost svakoga iz grupe
sigurnost svakoga iz grupe
10:12
above your own.
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ispred sebe.
10:14
In effect, you're saying,
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U suštini govoriš:
10:18
"I love these other people more than I love myself."
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"Volim ove ljude više od sebe."
10:23
Brendan was a team leader
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Brendan je bio vođa tima,
10:25
in command of three men,
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zadužen za tri čoveka,
10:26
and the worst day in Afghanistan —
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i njegov najgori dan u Avganistanu -
10:30
He was almost killed so many times.
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umalo je poginuo toliko puta,
10:33
It didn't bother him.
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nije mu to smetalo -
10:34
The worst thing that happened to him in Afghanistan
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najgore što mu se desilo u Avganistanu
10:37
was one of his men was hit in the head with a bullet
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je kada je metak pogodio
jednog od njegovih ljudi u glavu,
jednog od njegovih ljudi u glavu,
10:39
in the helmet, knocked him over.
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u šlem i prevrnuo ga.
10:44
They thought he was dead.
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Mislili su da je mrtav.
Bilo je to usred ogromne bitke.
10:45
It was in the middle of a huge firefight.
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10:46
No one could deal with it, and a minute later,
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Niko nije mogao da mu pomogne
i minut kasnije,
i minut kasnije,
10:48
Kyle Steiner sat back up
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Kajl Stajner se podigao,
10:51
from the dead, as it were,
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kako se činilo iz mrtvih,
10:52
because he'd come back to consciousness.
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jer mu se povratila svest.
10:54
The bullet had just knocked him out.
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Metak ga je samo oborio.
10:56
It glanced off the helmet.
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Odbio se o šlem.
10:58
He remembers people saying,
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Seća se ljudi kako viču,
11:00
as he was sort of half-conscious,
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pošto je bio polusvestan,
11:01
he remembers people saying,
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seća se ljudi kako viču:
11:05
"Steiner's been hit in the head. Steiner's dead."
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"Stajner je pogođen u glavu, mrtav je."
11:07
And he was thinking, "I'm not dead."
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A on je mislio: "Nisam mrtav."
11:08
And he sat up.
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I seo je.
11:10
And Brendan realized after that
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A Brendan je nakon toga shvatio
11:12
that he could not protect his men,
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da ne može da zaštiti svoje ljude.
11:14
and that was the only time he cried in Afghanistan,
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To je bio jedini put da je
zaplakao u Avganistanu,
zaplakao u Avganistanu,
11:16
was realizing that.
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kada je shvatio to.
11:19
That's brotherhood.
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To je bratstvo.
11:22
This wasn't invented recently.
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To nije skorašnji izum.
11:24
Many of you have probably read "The Iliad."
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Većina vas je verovatno čitala "Ilijadu".
11:27
Achilles surely would have risked his life
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Ahil bi svakako rizikovao svoj život
11:29
or given his life to save his friend Patroclus.
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ili bi dao svoj život da spase
svog prijatelja Patrokla.
svog prijatelja Patrokla.
11:34
In World War II, there were many stories
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Ima mnogo priča iz Drugog svetskog rata
11:36
of soldiers who were wounded,
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o vojnicima koji su ranjeni,
11:40
were brought to a rear base hospital,
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doneseni u pozadinske bazne bolnice,
11:42
who went AWOL,
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uzeli su odsustvo,
11:43
crawled out of windows, slipped out doors,
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ispuzali su kroz prozore,
iskrali se na vrata,
iskrali se na vrata,
11:45
went AWOL, wounded,
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uzeli nedozvoljeno odsustvo
i bili ranjeni,
i bili ranjeni,
11:49
to make their way back to the front lines
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probijajući se u prve redove
11:50
to rejoin their brothers out there.
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kako bi se ponovo pridružili braći.
11:53
So you think about Brendan,
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Mislite na Brendana,
11:55
you think about all these soldiers
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mislite na sve te vojnike
11:59
having an experience like that, a bond like that,
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sa sličnim iskustvom, sa sličnom vezom,
12:01
in a small group,
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unutar male grupe,
12:03
where they loved 20 other people
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gde su voleli 20 drugih ljudi,
12:05
in some ways more than they loved themselves,
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na neki način, više nego što vole sebe,
12:08
you think about how good that would feel, imagine it,
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zamislite kako je to
dobar osećaj, zamislite to
dobar osećaj, zamislite to
12:13
and they are blessed with that experience for a year,
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i bili su blagosloveni
tim iskustvom godinu dana,
tim iskustvom godinu dana,
12:18
and then they come home,
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a onda su se vratili kući,
12:19
and they are just back in society
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prosto su se ponovo zatekli u društvu,
12:22
like the rest of us are,
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kao i svi mi,
12:25
not knowing who they can count on,
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gde ne znaju na koga mogu da se oslone,
12:28
not knowing who loves them, who they can love,
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ne znaju ko ih voli,
koga oni smeju da vole,
koga oni smeju da vole,
12:33
not knowing exactly what anyone they know
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ne znaju tačno šta bi bilo ko
12:35
would do for them if it came down to it.
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učinio za njih ako dođe stani-pani.
12:38
That is terrifying.
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To je zastrašujuće.
12:41
Compared to that,
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U poređenju s tim,
12:43
war, psychologically, in some ways, is easy,
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rat je psihički, na neki način lakši
12:47
compared to that kind of alienation.
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od takve otuđenosti.
12:50
That's why they miss it,
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Zato im nedostaje
12:51
and that's what we have to understand
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i to je ono što moramo da razumemo
12:54
and in some ways fix in our society.
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i da nekako popravimo u našem društvu.
12:57
Thank you very much.
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Mnogo vam hvala.
13:00
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Sebastian Junger - Journalist and documentarianThe author of "The Perfect Storm" and the director of the documentaries "Restrepo" and "Korengal," Sebastian Junger tells non-fiction stories with grit and emotion.
Why you should listen
Sebastian Junger thundered onto the media landscape with his non-fiction book, The Perfect Storm. A correspondent for Vanity Fair and ABC News, Junger has covered stories all across the globe, igniting a new interest in non-fiction. One of his main interests: war.
From 2007 to 2008, Junger and photographer Tim Hetherington embedded with the 173rd Airborne Brigade Combat Team in Afghanistan. They spent intensive time with the soldiers at the Restrepo outpost in the Korengal Valley, which saw more combat than any other part of Afghanistan. The experience became Junger's book WAR, and the documentary "Restrepo," which was nominated for the Academy Award for Best Documentary in 2011.
Junger and Hetherington planned to make a second documentary on the topic, "Korengal," meant to help soldiers and civilians alike understand the fear, courage and complexity involved in combat. It's a project that Junger decided to carry on after Hetherington was killed in Libya while covering the civil war there. Junger self-financed and released the film.
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