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Kartick Satyanarayan: How we rescued the "dancing bears"
Kartik Satjanarajan: Kako smo spasili medvede koji "plešu"
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Tradicionalano, Kalandar zajednica u Indiji je preživljavala loveći mladunce medveda i na veoma okrutan način ih trenirala da "plešu". Kartik Satjanarajan je uspeo da stavi tačku na ovu vekovima staru praksu, radeći to naučio je lekciju šireg značaja: učesnici toga treba da postanu deo rešenja.
Kartick Satyanarayan - Wildlife conservationist
Kartick Satyanarayan works tirelessly to save India’s wild animals from illegal captivity and poaching -- most notably rescuing hundreds of “dancing” bears. Full bio
Kartick Satyanarayan works tirelessly to save India’s wild animals from illegal captivity and poaching -- most notably rescuing hundreds of “dancing” bears. Full bio
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Hi. For those of you who haven't seen dancing bears,
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Pozdrav. Za vas koji niste videli medvede koju plešu,
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these are the dancing bears.
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ovo su oni.
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In 1995, we started working on a two-year investigative research project
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1995. počeli smo dvogodišnji istraživački projekat
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to try and find out what was going on.
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da pokušamo da saznamo šta se dešava.
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Because the sloth bears in the wild were obviously getting depleted
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Zato što su medvedi u divljini očigledno nestajali
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because of this.
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zbog ovoga.
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This is the Qalandar community. They are a marginalized Islamic community
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Ovo je Kalandar zajednica. Oni su marginalizovana Islamska zajednica
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who live across India,
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koja živi širom Indije,
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and have been in India since the 13th century.
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žive u Indiji još od 13. veka.
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We went about getting evidence of what was going on.
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Počeli smo da sakupljamo dokaze šta se dešava.
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And this is footage from a hidden camera in a button.
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I ovo je snimak sa kamere koja je bila sakrivena u dugmetu.
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And we went in, pretending to be buyers.
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Ušli smo unutra, praveći se da smo kupci.
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And we found this right in this very state, in Karnataka.
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I ovo smo otkrili u toj državi, u Karnatki.
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And the bear cubs were being harvested from across the country
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Mladunčad medveda se skupljaju iz cele zemlje,
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and being sold and traded.
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sa njima se trguje i prodaju se.
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These were being sold for about 2,000 dollars each,
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Ovi su prodavani za 2000 dolara svako,
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and they are used for bear paw soup,
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i korišćeni da se od njih pravi supa od medveđih šapa,
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and also being trained, later on,
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i takođe obučavani, da kasnije
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to become dancing bears like the one you just saw.
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postanu medvedi koju plešu kao ovaj koga ste upravo videli.
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Sadly, the family of Qalandars depended on this bear.
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Nažalost, porodica Kalanders zavisi od ovog medveda.
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The couple are barely 18 years old.
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Par jedva da ima 18 godina.
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They already have four children beside them. You can see them.
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Već imaju četvoro dece. Možete ih videti.
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And the economy of the family and their livelihood depended on those animals.
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I zarada ove porodice i njihovo izdržavanje zavisi od ovih životinja.
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So, we had to deal with it in a very practical and sustainable manner.
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Dakle, morali smo da se nosimo sa tim na vrlo praktičan i održiv način.
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Now, when we started working deeper and digging deeper,
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Sada, kada smo počeli da istražujemo dublje i dublje,
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we found that it's an illegal act.
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saznali smo da je to nelegalno.
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These guys could go to jail for up to seven years
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Oni bi mogli otići u zatvor i dobiti kazne i do 7 godina
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if they were caught by authorities.
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ako bi ih vlasti uhvatile.
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And what they were doing to the bears was really appalling.
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A to što oni rade medvedima je stvarno užasno.
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It was unacceptable.
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Neprihvatiljivo.
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The mother bears are usually killed.
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Majke medvedice se obično ubijaju.
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The cubs, which are taken, are separated.
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Mladunci se uzimaju i obično razdvoje.
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Their teeth are basically bashed out with a metal rod.
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Zube im bukvalno izbijaju metalnom šipkom.
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And they use a red hot iron needle to make a hole through the muzzle.
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I koriste užarenu metalnu iglu da naprave rupu na nozdrvama.
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Now we had to start changing these people and converting them from using that
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Mi smo morali da počnemo da menjamo te ljude da umesto toga
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for a livelihood, to getting something else.
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za izdržavanje, rade nešto drugo.
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So, this is Bitu Qalandar, who was our first experiment.
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I tako, ovo je Bitu Kalander, koji je bio naš prvi eksperiment.
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And we were so unsure that this would work.
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I nismo bili sigurni da li će ovo uspeti.
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We weren't sure at all. And we managed to convince him.
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Nismo bili sigurni uopšte. Ali smo uspeli da ga ubedimo.
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And we said, "Okay, here is some seed fund.
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I rekli smo: "OK, evo početnog kapitala.
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Let's see if you can get something else." And we got the bear surrendered
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Da vidimo da li možeš sa tim da uradiš nešto drugo. A medvede smo
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to -- we set up a sanctuary. We have four sanctuaries in India.
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odveli u prihvatilište. Imamo 4 prihvatilišta u Indiji.
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And now he sells cool drinks, he's by the highway.
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I sada on prodaje hladna pića, pored auto puta.
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He has a telephone booth.
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Ima i telefonsku govornicu.
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And then it started, there was no turning back after that.
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I kada je počelo, nije bilo moguće ići nazad.
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This is Sadua who came and surrendered his bear.
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Ovo je Sadua koji je došao i predao nam svog medveda.
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And now he runs a cattle fodder store and a grain store
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I sada vodi prodavnicu stočne hrane i prodavnicu sa žitaricama.
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near Agra.
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blizu Agre.
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Then there was no looking back at all for us.
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Od tada nam nije bilo povratka.
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We gave cycle rickshaws.
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Dali smo im rikše.
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We set up carpet-weaving units,
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Postavili smo jedinice sa tkanjem,
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vocational training for the women.
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za stručnu obuku žena.
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The women were just not allowed to come out of the community
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Ženama nije bilo dozvoljeno da izlaze u javnost,
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and work with mainstream society. So, we were able to address that.
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i da rade u društvu. Ali, mi smo uspeli da promenimo to.
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Education. The kids never went to school.
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Obrazovanje. Deca nikada nisu išla u školu.
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They only had Islamic education, very little of it.
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Imala su samo Islamsko obrazovanje i to vrlo malo.
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And they were never allowed to go to school
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I njima nije bilo dopušteno da idu u školu,
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because they were an extra earning hand at home. So we managed to get education.
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zato što su bila dodatna ruka za zaradu. Za njih smo uspeli da izdejstvujemo obrazovanje.
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So, we sponsor 600 children education programs today.
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Dakle, mi smo sponzori 600 edukativnih programa za decu danas.
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We were able to ensure brighter futures for these people.
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Uspeli smo da osiguramo svetliju budućnost za ove ljude.
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Of course we also had to get the bears in.
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Takođe morali smo da primimo i medvede.
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This is what happens to the bears when they come in.
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Ovako izgledaju medvedi kada dođu,
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And this is what we turn them into.
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A ovako posle nekog vremena.
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We have a veterinary facility in our rescue centers.
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Imamo veterinarsku ustanovu u našem centru.
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So, basically in 2002 there were
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2002. je bilo
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1,200 dancing bears.
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1200 medveda koji plešu.
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We rescued over 550 dancing bears.
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Mi smo spasli preko 550 njih.
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We've been able to ensure better futures for the people and the bears.
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Uspeli smo da osiguramo bolju budućnost za ljude i za medvede.
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The big news that I want to announce today
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Velika vest koju danas želim da objavim
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is that next month we will be bringing in
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je ta da sledećeg meseca dovodimo
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the very last bear of India,
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poslednjeg medveda koji pleše u Indiji,
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into our rescue center.
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u naše prihvatilište.
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(Applause)
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Aplauz.
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And India will no longer have to witness this cruel barbaric practice
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I Indija više neće biti svedok okrutnog varvarskog ponašanja,
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which has been here for centuries.
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koje je ovde bilo vekovima.
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And the people can hold their heads up high.
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Ljudi mogu ponosno da podignu glave.
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And the Qalandar people will rise above all this cruel barbaric past
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Narod Kalandera će se uzdići iznad okrutne varvarske prošlosti
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that they've lived all their lives.
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koju su živeli čitav svoj život.
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And the beautiful bears can of course live in the wild again.
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A divni medvedi će naravno moći opet da žive u divljini.
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And there will be no more removing of these bears.
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I više neće biti lova na ove medvede.
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And the children, both humans and bear cubs
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A deca, ljudska i medveđa
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can live peacefully. Thank you.
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mogu da žive u miru. Hvala vam.
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(Applause)
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Kartick Satyanarayan - Wildlife conservationistKartick Satyanarayan works tirelessly to save India’s wild animals from illegal captivity and poaching -- most notably rescuing hundreds of “dancing” bears.
Why you should listen
Known by many in India as the “Bear Man,” Kartick Satyanaran is the co-founder of Wildlife SOS -- a non-profit wildlife conservation organization famous for its campaign to rescue every “dancing” bear in the country. For many years, “dancing” sloth bears were the only livelihood of the Kalandar community, but the practice involves extreme cruelty by modern standards, endangers the bear population and is illegal today. He began the organization with his aunt and fellow animal rights champion Geeta Seshamani in 1995, and since then they have rescued over 550 bears.
Satyanaran began rescuing animals as a child, with a particular tendency to rescue snakes. Although he majored in business management in college, he returned to his early love of animal as a field assistant tracking tigers for the Wildlife Conservation Society. Now, through Wildlife SOS, he runs rescue and rehabilitation centers for India’s sloth bears, elephants, leopards and more, as well as several conservation and forest watch projects.
Kartick Satyanarayan | Speaker | TED.com