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Alison Killing: What happens when a city runs out of room for its dead
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"If you want to go out and start your own cemetery" in the UK, says Alison Killing, "you kind of can." She thinks a lot about where we die and are buried -- and in this talk, the architect and TED Fellow offers an eye-opening economic and social perspective on an overlooked feature of our towns and cities: the cemetery. Speaking specifically to UK laws, she unpacks the fascinating, sometimes funny, often contradictory laws about where you can be buried.
Alison Killing - Architect
An architect and urban designer, Alison Killing uses journalism, filmmaking and exhibitions to help people better understand the built environment. Full bio
An architect and urban designer, Alison Killing uses journalism, filmmaking and exhibitions to help people better understand the built environment. Full bio
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So, I have an overlooked
but potentially lucrative
but potentially lucrative
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investment opportunity for you.
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Over the past 10 years in the UK,
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the return on burial plots
has outperformed the UK property market
has outperformed the UK property market
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by a ratio of around three to one.
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There are private cemeteries being set up
with plots for sale to investors,
with plots for sale to investors,
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and they start at around 3,900 pounds.
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And they're projected to achieve
about 40 percent growth.
about 40 percent growth.
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The biggest advantage is that this
is a market with continuous demand.
is a market with continuous demand.
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Now, this is a real proposition,
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and there are companies out there
that really are offering this investment,
that really are offering this investment,
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but my interest in it is quite different.
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I'm an architect and urban designer,
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and for the past year and a half,
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I've been looking at approaches
to death and dying
to death and dying
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and at how they've shaped our cities
and the buildings within them.
and the buildings within them.
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So in the summer,
I did my first exhibition
I did my first exhibition
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on death and architecture in Venice,
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and it was called "Death in Venice."
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And because death is a subject
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that many of us find quite
uncomfortable to talk about,
uncomfortable to talk about,
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the exhibition was designed
to be quite playful,
to be quite playful,
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so that people would
literally engage with it.
literally engage with it.
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So one of our exhibits
was an interactive map of London
was an interactive map of London
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which showed just how much
of the real estate in the city
of the real estate in the city
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is given over to death.
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As you wave your hand across the map,
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the name of the piece of real estate --
the building or the cemetery --
the building or the cemetery --
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is revealed.
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And those white shapes that you can see,
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they're all of the hospitals and hospices
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and mortuaries and cemeteries in the city.
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In fact, the majority are cemeteries.
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We wanted to show that, even though
death and burial are things
death and burial are things
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that we might not think about,
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they're all around us, and they're
important parts of our cities.
important parts of our cities.
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So about half a million people
die in the UK each year,
die in the UK each year,
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and of those, around a quarter
will want to be buried.
will want to be buried.
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But the UK, like many
Western European countries,
Western European countries,
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is running out of burial space,
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especially in the major cities.
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And the Greater London Authority
has been aware of this for a while,
has been aware of this for a while,
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and the main causes are population growth,
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the fact that existing
cemeteries are almost full.
cemeteries are almost full.
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There's a custom in the UK that graves
are considered to be occupied forever,
are considered to be occupied forever,
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and there's also development pressure --
people want to use that same land
people want to use that same land
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to build houses or offices or shops.
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So they came up with a few solutions.
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They were like, well, maybe we can
reuse those graves after 50 years.
reuse those graves after 50 years.
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Or maybe we can bury people,
like, four deep,
like, four deep,
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so that four people can be buried
in the same plot,
in the same plot,
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and we can make more efficient use
of the land that way,
of the land that way,
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and in that way, hopefully London
will still have space to bury people
will still have space to bury people
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in the near future.
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But, traditionally, cemeteries
haven't been taken care of
haven't been taken care of
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by the local authority.
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In fact, the surprising thing is that
there's no legal obligation
there's no legal obligation
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on anyone in the UK
to provide burial space.
to provide burial space.
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Traditionally, it's been done
by private and religious organizations,
by private and religious organizations,
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like churches and mosques and synagogues.
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But there's also occasionally
been a for-profit group
been a for-profit group
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who has wanted to get in on the act.
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And, you know, they look at
the small size of a burial plot
the small size of a burial plot
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and that high cost,
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and it looks like there's
serious money to be made.
serious money to be made.
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So, actually, if you want to go out
and start your own cemetery,
and start your own cemetery,
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you kind of can.
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There was this couple in South Wales,
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and they had a farmhouse
and a load of fields next to it,
and a load of fields next to it,
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and they wanted to develop the land.
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They had a load of ideas.
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They first thought about making
a caravan park,
a caravan park,
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but the council said no.
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And then they wanted to make a fish farm
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and again the council said no.
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Then they hit on the idea
of making a cemetery
of making a cemetery
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and they calculated that by doing this,
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they could increase
the value of their land
the value of their land
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from about 95,000 pounds
to over one million pounds.
to over one million pounds.
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But just to come back to this idea
of making profit from cemeteries,
of making profit from cemeteries,
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like, it's kind of ludicrous, right?
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The thing is that the high cost
of those burial plots
of those burial plots
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is actually very misleading.
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They look like they're expensive,
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but that cost reflects the fact that
you need to maintain the burial plot --
you need to maintain the burial plot --
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like, someone has to cut the grass
for the next 50 years.
for the next 50 years.
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That means it's very difficult
to make money from cemeteries.
to make money from cemeteries.
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And it's the reason that normally
they're run by the council
they're run by the council
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or by a not-for-profit group.
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But anyway, the council granted
these people permission,
these people permission,
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and they're now trying
to build their cemetery.
to build their cemetery.
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So just to explain to you
kind of how this works:
kind of how this works:
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If I want to build something in the UK,
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like a cemetery for example,
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then I have to apply
for planning permission first.
for planning permission first.
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So if I want to build a new
office building for a client
office building for a client
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or if I want to extend my home
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or, you know, if I have a shop
and I want to convert it into an office,
and I want to convert it into an office,
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I have to do a load of drawings,
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and I submit them
to the council for permission.
to the council for permission.
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And they'll look at things like
how it fits in the surroundings.
how it fits in the surroundings.
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So they'll look at what it looks like.
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But they'll also think about things
like what impact is it going to have
like what impact is it going to have
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on the local environment?
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And they'll be thinking about things like,
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is this thing going to cause pollution
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or is there going to be a lot of traffic
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that wants to go to this thing
that I've built?
that I've built?
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But also good things.
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Is it going to add local services
like shops to the neighborhood
like shops to the neighborhood
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that local people would like to use?
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And they'll weigh up the advantages
and the disadvantages
and the disadvantages
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and they'll make a decision.
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So that's how it works if I want
to build a large cemetery.
to build a large cemetery.
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But what if I've got a piece of land
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and I just want to bury
a few people, like five or six?
a few people, like five or six?
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Well, then -- actually, I don't need
permission from anyone!
permission from anyone!
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There's actually almost no regulation
in the UK around burial,
in the UK around burial,
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and the little bit that there is,
is about not polluting water courses,
is about not polluting water courses,
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like not polluting rivers or groundwater.
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So actually, if you want to go
and make your own mini-cemetery,
and make your own mini-cemetery,
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then you can.
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But I mean, like -- really,
who does this? Right?
who does this? Right?
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Well, if you're an aristocratic family
and you have a large estate,
and you have a large estate,
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then there's a chance that you'll
have a mausoleum on it,
have a mausoleum on it,
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and you'll bury your family there.
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But the really weird thing
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is that you don't need to have
a piece of land of a certain size
a piece of land of a certain size
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before you're allowed
to start burying people on it.
to start burying people on it.
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And so that means that, technically,
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this applies to, like, the back garden
of your house in the suburbs.
of your house in the suburbs.
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(Laughter)
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So what if you wanted
to try this yourself at home?
to try this yourself at home?
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Well, there's a few councils
that have guidance on their website
that have guidance on their website
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which can help you.
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So, the first thing that they tell you
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is that you need to have a certificate
of burial before you can go ahead --
of burial before you can go ahead --
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you're not allowed to just murder people
and put them under the patio.
and put them under the patio.
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(Laughter)
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They also tell you that you need to keep
a record of where the grave is.
a record of where the grave is.
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But that's pretty much it
for formal requirements.
for formal requirements.
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Now, they do warn you that
your neighbors might not like this,
your neighbors might not like this,
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but, legally speaking, there's almost
nothing that they can do about it.
nothing that they can do about it.
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And just in case any of you
still had that profit idea in your mind
still had that profit idea in your mind
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about how much those burial plots cost
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and how much money
you might be able to make,
you might be able to make,
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they also warn that it might cause
the value of your house
the value of your house
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to drop by 20 percent.
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Although, actually, it's more likely
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that no one will want to buy
your house at all after that.
your house at all after that.
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So what I find fascinating about this
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is the fact that it kind of sums up
many of our attitudes towards death.
many of our attitudes towards death.
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In the UK, and I think that the figures
across Europe are probably similar,
across Europe are probably similar,
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only about 30 percent of people
have ever talked to anyone
have ever talked to anyone
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about their wishes around death,
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and even for people over 75,
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only 45 percent of people
have ever talked about this.
have ever talked about this.
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And the reasons that
people give ... you know,
people give ... you know,
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they think that their death is far off
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or they think that they're going
to make people uncomfortable
to make people uncomfortable
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by talking about it.
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And you know, to a certain extent,
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there are other people out there
who are taking care of things for us.
who are taking care of things for us.
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The government has all this regulation
and bureaucracy around things
and bureaucracy around things
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like burying a death, for example,
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and there's people like funeral directors
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who devote their entire
working lives to this issue.
working lives to this issue.
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But when it comes to our cities
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and thinking about how
death fits in our cities,
death fits in our cities,
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there's much less regulation
and design and thought
and design and thought
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than we might imagine.
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So we're not thinking about this,
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but all of the people we imagine
are thinking about it --
are thinking about it --
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they're not taking care of it either.
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Thank you.
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(Applause)
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Alison Killing - ArchitectAn architect and urban designer, Alison Killing uses journalism, filmmaking and exhibitions to help people better understand the built environment.
Why you should listen
Alison Killing is an architect and urban designer working to engage people with their built environment, via design of buildings and urban strategies, film making, exhibitions and events. She explores the relationship between death and modern architecture, looking at how cities are rebuilt after disaster.
Recent projects include Death in the City (and its first iteration, Death in Venice, which was shown as an independent event during the opening week of the Venice Architecture Biennale), a touring exhibition about death and modern architecture; work with the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies on better rebuilding after disaster and how to integrate relevant urban design tools into humanitarian response; and a study of financial models for arts and community projects temporarily using vacant buildings to help these projects become self-sustaining.
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