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Aziz Abu Sarah: For more tolerance, we need more ... tourism?
Aziz Abu Sarah: Za više tolerancije, trebamo više ... turizma?
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Aziz AbuSarah je palestinski aktivista sa neobičnim pristupom kada je u pitanju uspostava mira. Budite turista. TED Fellow pokazuje kako jednostavna interakcija ljudi različite kulture može da poništi decenije mržnje. Počinje sa pričom kako Palestinci posjećuju Izrale i ide izvan toga...
Aziz Abu Sarah - Entrepreneur + educator
Aziz Abu Sarah helps people break down cultural and historical barriers through tourism. Full bio
Aziz Abu Sarah helps people break down cultural and historical barriers through tourism. Full bio
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00:12
I'm a tourism entrepreneur
and a peacebuilder,
and a peacebuilder,
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Ja sam turistički poduzetnik
i mirotvorac,
i mirotvorac,
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but this is not how I started.
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ali nisam tako započeo
svoju karijeru.
svoju karijeru.
00:18
When I was seven years old,
I remember watching television
I remember watching television
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Kada sam imao sedam godina,
sjećam se da sam gledajući na televiziji
sjećam se da sam gledajući na televiziji
00:21
and seeing people throwing rocks,
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vidio ljude kako bacaju kamenje,
00:24
and thinking, this must be
a fun thing to do.
a fun thing to do.
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pomislio sam kako je to zabavno.
00:27
So I got out to the street
and threw rocks,
and threw rocks,
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Izašao sam na ulicu i
počeo da bacam kamenje,
počeo da bacam kamenje,
00:30
not realizing I was supposed
to throw rocks at Israeli cars.
to throw rocks at Israeli cars.
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nisam tada shvatio da treba da gađam
Izraelske automobile.
Izraelske automobile.
00:34
Instead, I ended up stoning
my neighbors' cars. (Laughter)
my neighbors' cars. (Laughter)
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Umjesto njih, gađao sam automobile
svojih komšija. (Smijeh)
svojih komšija. (Smijeh)
00:38
They were not enthusiastic
about my patriotism.
about my patriotism.
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Nisu bili oduševljeni mojim
patriotizmom.
patriotizmom.
00:42
This is my picture with my brother.
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Ovo je slika brata i mene.
00:44
This is me, the little one,
and I know what you're thinking:
and I know what you're thinking:
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Ovo sam ja, mali,
i znam šta mislite:
i znam šta mislite:
00:47
"You used to look cute,
what the heck happened to you?"
what the heck happened to you?"
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"Izgledao si tako slatko,
šta se desilo s tobom?."
šta se desilo s tobom?."
00:50
But my brother, who is older than me,
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Ali moj brat, koji je stariji od mene,
00:52
was arrested when he was 18,
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biva uhapšen kada je imao 18,
00:55
taken to prison on charges
of throwing stones.
of throwing stones.
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odveden je u zatvor pod,
optužbom da je bacao kamenje.
optužbom da je bacao kamenje.
00:57
He was beaten up when he refused
to confess that he threw stones,
to confess that he threw stones,
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Pretučen je kada je odbio,
da prizna da je on bacao kamenje,
da prizna da je on bacao kamenje,
01:01
and as a result, had internal injuries
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rezultat toga su bile unutrašnje povrede
01:04
that caused his death soon after
he was released from prison.
he was released from prison.
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koje su prouzrokovale smrt,
nedugo nakon izlaska iz zatvora.
nedugo nakon izlaska iz zatvora.
01:08
I was angry, I was bitter,
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Bio sam ljut, bio sam ogorčen,
01:12
and all I wanted was revenge.
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i sve što sam želio jest osveta.
01:16
But that changed when I was 18.
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Ali to se promjenilo
kada sam napunio 18.
kada sam napunio 18.
01:18
I decided that I needed
Hebrew to get a job,
Hebrew to get a job,
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Odlučio sam da mi je Hebrejski
neophodan da dobijem posao,
neophodan da dobijem posao,
01:22
and going to study Hebrew
in that classroom
in that classroom
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i kada sam počeo da učim Hebrejski
01:24
was the first time I ever met Jews
who were not soldiers.
who were not soldiers.
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tada sam prvi put upoznao
Jevreje, koji nisu bili vojnici.
Jevreje, koji nisu bili vojnici.
01:30
And we connected over really small things,
like the fact that I love country music,
like the fact that I love country music,
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Povezale su nas male stvari,
ja volim country muziku,
ja volim country muziku,
01:34
which is really strange
for Palestinians.
for Palestinians.
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što je stvarno čudno, za
jednog Palestinca.
jednog Palestinca.
01:38
But it was then that I realized also
that we have a wall of anger,
that we have a wall of anger,
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Tada sam također shvatio,
da imamo zid mržnje između,
da imamo zid mržnje između,
01:43
of hatred and of ignorance
that separates us.
that separates us.
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zid prezira i neznanja,
koji nas je razdvajao.
koji nas je razdvajao.
01:48
I decided that it doesn't matter
what happens to me.
what happens to me.
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Nisam želio da se to i meni desi.
01:53
What really matters is how I deal with it.
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Želio sam da to promjenim.
01:56
And therefore, I decided
to dedicate my life
to dedicate my life
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S toga sam odlučio da
svoj život posvetim
svoj život posvetim
01:59
to bringing down the walls
that separate people.
that separate people.
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rušenju zidova koji
razdvajaju ljude.
razdvajaju ljude.
02:03
I do so through many ways.
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To sam radio na više načina.
02:05
Tourism is one of them,
but also media and education,
but also media and education,
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Turizam je jedan od njih,
ali i mediji i edukacija,
ali i mediji i edukacija,
02:08
and you might be wondering,
really, can tourism change things?
really, can tourism change things?
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možda se čudite da li turizam,
može da promjeni tu situaciju?
može da promjeni tu situaciju?
02:12
Can it bring down walls? Yes.
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Može li da sruši zidove?
Da.
Da.
02:14
Tourism is the best sustainable way
to bring down those walls
to bring down those walls
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Turizam je najbolji dugoročni put
da se sruše ti zidovi
da se sruše ti zidovi
02:19
and to create a sustainable way
of connecting with each other
of connecting with each other
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i da se kreira održiva veza,
jednog naroda s drugim
jednog naroda s drugim
02:23
and creating friendships.
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i da se stvore prijateljstva.
02:26
In 2009, I cofounded Mejdi Tours,
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U 2009., suosnovao sam Mejdi Tours,
02:29
a social enterprise that
aims to connect people,
aims to connect people,
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socijalni poduhvat s ciljem
da poveže ljude,
da poveže ljude,
02:33
with two Jewish friends, by the way,
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sa dvojicom prijatelja koji su Jevreji,
02:35
and what we'll do, the model we did,
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i napravili smo model,
02:38
for example, in Jerusalem,
we would have two tour guides,
we would have two tour guides,
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gdje npr, u Jerusalemu imamo
dva turistička vodiča,
dva turistička vodiča,
02:41
one Israeli and one Palestinian,
guiding the trips together,
guiding the trips together,
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jednog Izraelca i jednog Palestinca
koji vode putovanje zajedno,
koji vode putovanje zajedno,
02:44
telling history and narrative
and archaeology and conflict
and archaeology and conflict
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prepričavajući historiju i arheologiju
kao i konflikte
kao i konflikte
02:48
from totally different perspectives.
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iz dvije različite perspektive.
02:51
I remember running a trip together
with a friend named Kobi --
with a friend named Kobi --
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Sjećam se kada sam vodio turiste,
zajedno sa svojim prijateljem imena Kobi --
zajedno sa svojim prijateljem imena Kobi --
02:54
Jewish congregation from Chicago,
the trip was in Jerusalem --
the trip was in Jerusalem --
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bila je to Jevrejska zajednica iz Čikaga,
put je bio u Jerusalemu --
put je bio u Jerusalemu --
02:57
and we took them to a refugee camp,
a Palestinian refugee camp,
a Palestinian refugee camp,
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Odveli smo ih u palestinski
izbjeglički kamp,
izbjeglički kamp,
03:00
and there we had this amazing food.
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gdje smo imali ovu zanimljivu hranu.
03:02
By the way, this is my mother. She's cool.
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Ovo je moja mati. Ona je cool.
03:05
And that's the Palestinian
food called maqluba.
food called maqluba.
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Ovo je Palestinsko jelo,
koje se zove maqluba.
koje se zove maqluba.
03:08
It means "upside-down."
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Koje u prevodu znači
"naglavačke."
"naglavačke."
03:09
You cook it with rice and chicken,
and you flip it upside-down.
and you flip it upside-down.
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Kuha se sa rižom i piletinom,
i to okrenete "naopačke."
i to okrenete "naopačke."
03:12
It's the best meal ever.
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To je najbolje jelo ikada.
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And we'll eat together.
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Koje smo svi zajedno jeli.
Poslije toga je svirao zajednički bend,
Palestinskih i Jevrejskih muzičara,
Palestinskih i Jevrejskih muzičara,
03:15
Then we had a joint band,
Israeli and Palestinian musicians,
Israeli and Palestinian musicians,
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03:18
and we did some belly-dancing.
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a poslije smo imali trbušni ples.
03:20
If you don't know any,
I'll teach you later.
I'll teach you later.
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Ukoliko ga ne znate plesati,
naučiti ću vas poslije.
naučiti ću vas poslije.
03:23
But when we left, both sides,
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Ali kada smo krenuli, obje strane,
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they were crying because
they did not want to leave.
they did not want to leave.
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su plakale, nisu željele
da se rastanu.
da se rastanu.
03:29
Three years later, those
relationships still exist.
relationships still exist.
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Tri godine poslije, te veze i dalje
postoje.
postoje.
03:33
Imagine with me
if the one billion people
if the one billion people
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Zamislite kada bi
milijardu ljudi
milijardu ljudi
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who travel internationally
every year travel like this,
every year travel like this,
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koji putuju međunarodno svake
godine, putovali na ovaj način,
godine, putovali na ovaj način,
03:39
not being taken in the bus
from one side to another,
from one side to another,
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kada ne bi uzimali autobus
da pređu s jedne na drugu stranu,
da pređu s jedne na drugu stranu,
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from one hotel to another,
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iz jednog hotela u drugi,
03:45
taking pictures from the windows
of their buses of people and cultures,
of their buses of people and cultures,
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da slikaju iz svojih autobusa,
ljude i njihovu kulturu,
ljude i njihovu kulturu,
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but actually connecting with people.
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umjesto da se povežu sa njima.
03:52
You know, I remember having
a Muslim group from the U.K.
a Muslim group from the U.K.
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Sjećam se, kada sam imao grupu
Muslimana iz Velike Britanije,
Muslimana iz Velike Britanije,
03:56
going to the house
of an Orthodox Jewish family,
of an Orthodox Jewish family,
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i kada smo ušli u kuću
ortodoksnih Jevreja,
ortodoksnih Jevreja,
03:58
and having their first Friday night
dinners, that Sabbath dinner,
dinners, that Sabbath dinner,
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zajedno smo večerali na prvi
Petak, Sabbath večeru,
Petak, Sabbath večeru,
04:03
and eating together hamin,
which is a Jewish food, a stew,
which is a Jewish food, a stew,
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zajedno smo jeli hamin,
Jevrejsko jelo, paprikaš,
Jevrejsko jelo, paprikaš,
04:06
just having the connection
of realizing, after a while,
of realizing, after a while,
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malo poslije, smo shvatili
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that a hundred years ago,
their families came out
their families came out
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da su njihove porodice
prije stotinu godina došle iz
prije stotinu godina došle iz
04:12
of the same place in Northern Africa.
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istog mjesta iz Sjeverne Afrike.
04:15
This is not a photo profile
for your Facebook.
for your Facebook.
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Ovo nije profilna slika za vaš
FB profil.
FB profil.
04:18
This is not disaster tourism.
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Ovo nije upropašten turizam.
04:20
This is the future of travel,
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Ovo je budućnost putovanja,
04:23
and I invite you to join me to do that,
to change your travel.
to change your travel.
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i ja vas pozivam da mi se pridužite,
da promjenimo način putovanja.
da promjenimo način putovanja.
04:26
We're doing it all over the world now,
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Mi to radimo sada širom svijeta,
04:28
from Ireland to Iran to Turkey,
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od Irske do Irana i Turske,
04:30
and we see ourselves going
everywhere to change the world.
everywhere to change the world.
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i vidimo se čak i dalje,
da promjenimo svijet.
da promjenimo svijet.
04:33
Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
04:34
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Aziz Abu Sarah - Entrepreneur + educatorAziz Abu Sarah helps people break down cultural and historical barriers through tourism.
Why you should listen
When Aziz Abu Sarah was a boy, his older brother was arrested on charges of throwing stones. He was taken to prison and beaten — and died of his injuries. Sarah grew up angry, bitter and wanting revenge. But when later in life he met, for the first time, Jews who were not soldiers, Sarah had an epiphany: Not only did they share his love of small things, namely country music, but coming face to face with the “enemy” compelled him to find ways to overcome hatred, anger and fear.
Sarah founded MEJDI Tours to send tourists to Jerusalem with two guides, one Jewish and one Palestinian, each offering a different history and narrative of the city. Sarah tells success stories of tourists from the US visiting a Palestinian refugee camp and listening to joint Arab and Jewish bands play music, and of a Muslim family from the UK sharing Sabbath dinner with a Jewish family and realizing that 100 years ago, their people came from the same town in Northern Africa. MEJDI is expanding its service to Iran, Turkey, Ireland and other regions suffering from cultural conflict. If more of the world’s 1 billion tourists were to engage with real people living real lives, argues Sarah, it would be a powerful force for shattering sterotypes and promoting understanding, friendship and peace.
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