TEDGlobal 2010
Zainab Salbi: Women, wartime and the dream of peace
Zainab Salbi: Žene, rat i san o miru
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Za vrijeme rata naslovnice često pune samo priče o vojnicima i borbama. Na konferenciji TEDGlobal 2010, Zainab Salbi ispričala je dirljive "pozadinske" priče žena koje održavaju svakodnevni život tijekom sukoba te pozvala žene da zauzmu mjesto u pregovorima nakon završetka rata.
Zainab Salbi - Activist and social entrepreneur
Iraqi-born Zainab Salbi founded and runs Women for Women International, and has dedicated her life to helping women in war-torn regions rebuild their lives and communities. Full bio
Iraqi-born Zainab Salbi founded and runs Women for Women International, and has dedicated her life to helping women in war-torn regions rebuild their lives and communities. Full bio
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I woke up in the middle of the night
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Usred noći me probudio
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with the sound of heavy explosion.
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zvuk snažne eksplozije.
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It was deep at night.
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Bilo je gluho doba noći.
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I do not remember what time it was.
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Ne sjećam se koliko je bilo sati.
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I just remember the sound
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Sjećam se samo da je zvuk
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was so heavy
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bio tako glasan
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and so very shocking.
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i tako šokantan.
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Everything in my room was shaking --
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Cijela soba mi se tresla --
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my heart, my windows,
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moje srce, moji prozori,
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my bed, everything.
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moj krevet -- sve.
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I looked out the windows
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Pogledala sam kroz prozor
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and I saw a full half-circle
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i vidjela cijeli
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of explosion.
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polumjesec eksplozije.
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I thought it was just like the movies,
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Pomislila sam kako izgleda baš kao u filmovima,
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but the movies had not conveyed them
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ali u filmovima to nije bilo prikazano
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in the powerful image that I was seeing
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toliko snažno kao ono što sam ja gledala --
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full of bright red
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u žarko crvenoj boji
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and orange and gray,
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i narančastoj i sivoj
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and a full circle of explosion.
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i cijeli puni krug eksplozije.
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And I kept on staring at it
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Samo sam gledala u nju
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until it disappeared.
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dok nije nestala.
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I went back to my bed,
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Vratila sam se u krevet
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and I prayed,
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i počela moliti,
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and I secretly thanked God
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i potajno sam zahvalila bogu
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that that missile
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što taj projektil
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did not land on my family's home,
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nije pao na kuću moje obitelji
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that it did not kill my family that night.
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i što te noći nije ubio moju obitelj.
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Thirty years have passed,
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Prošlo je 30 godina
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and I still feel guilty about that prayer,
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i još uvijek se osjećam krivom zbog te molitve,
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for the next day, I learned that that missile
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jer sam sljedećeg dana doznala da je projektil
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landed on my brother's friend's home
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pao na kuću prijatelja moga brata
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and killed him
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i ubio njega
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and his father,
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i njegovog oca,
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but did not kill his mother or his sister.
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ali nije ubio njegovu majku ni njegovu sestru.
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His mother showed up the next week
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Njegova majka došla je sljedećeg tjedna
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at my brother's classroom
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u učionicu mojeg brata
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and begged seven-year-old kids
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i molila sedmogodišnju djecu
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to share with her any picture they may have
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da joj daju, ako imaju,
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of her son,
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bilo kakvu sliku njenog sina
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for she had lost everything.
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jer ona je izgubila sve.
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This is not a story
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Ovo nije priča
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of a nameless survivor of war,
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bezimene osobe koja je preživjela rat
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and nameless refugees,
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i bezimenih izbjeglica
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whose stereotypical images we see in our newspapers
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čije stereotipne slike viđamo u novinama
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and our TV
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i na televiziji,
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with tattered clothes,
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u poderanoj odjeći,
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dirty face, scared eyes.
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prljavih lica, prestrašenih očiju.
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This is not a story of a nameless someone
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Ovo nije priča nekog bezimenog,
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who lived in some war,
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tko je živio za vrijeme nekog rata
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who we do not know their hopes, their dreams,
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i za koga ne znamo kakve je imao nade,
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their accomplishments, their families,
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snove, uspjehe, obitelj,
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their beliefs, their values.
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u što je vjerovao i kakve vrijednosti je njegovao.
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This is my story.
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Ovo je moja priča.
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I was that girl.
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Ja sam bila ta djevojčica.
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I am another image and vision
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Ja sam još jedna slika i vizija
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of another survivor of war.
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još jedne osobe koja je preživjela rat.
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I am that refugee,
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Ja sam ta izbjeglica
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and I am that girl.
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i ja sam ta djevojčica.
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You see,
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Vidite,
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I grew up in war-torn Iraq,
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ja sam odrasla u ratom zahvaćenom Iraku
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and I believe that there are two sides of wars
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i vjerujem da svaki rat ima dvije strane,
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and we've only seen
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a mi vidimo
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one side of it.
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samo jednu.
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We only talk about
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Govorimo samo
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one side of it.
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o jednoj strani.
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But there's another side
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Ali postoji i druga strana
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that I have witnessed
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koju sam iskusila
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as someone who lived in it
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kao netko tko je živio u njoj
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and someone who ended up working in it.
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i tko je na kraju i radio u njoj.
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I grew up with the colors of war --
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Odrasla sam uz boje rata --
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the red colors of fire and blood,
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uz crvenu boju vatre i krvi,
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the brown tones of earth
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uz smeđe nijanse zemlje
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as it explodes
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koju nam eksplozije
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in our faces
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bacaju u lica
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and the piercing silver
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i prodorna srebrna boja
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of an exploded missile,
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projektila koji eksplodira
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so bright
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tako svijetlo
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that nothing can protect your eyes from it.
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da ničime ne možete od njega zaštititi oči.
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I grew up
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Odrasla sam
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with the sounds of war --
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uz zvukove rata --
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the staccato sounds of gunfire,
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staccato mitraljeza,
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the wrenching booms of explosions,
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moćno tutnjanje eksplozija,
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ominous drones of jets flying overhead
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zlosutno zujanje aviona koji nas prelijeću
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and the wailing warning sounds
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i upozoravajuće zavijanje
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of sirens.
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sirena za uzbunu.
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These are the sounds you would expect,
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To su zvukovi koje biste očekivali,
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but they are also the sounds
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ali postoje i zvukovi
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of dissonant concerts of a flock of birds
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neuštimanih koncerata jata ptica
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screeching in the night,
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koje krešte u noći,
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the high-pitched honest cries
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visoki tonovi
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of children
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iskrenog dječjeg plača
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and the thunderous,
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i potmula,
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unbearable
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nepodnošljiva
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silence.
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tišina.
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"War," a friend of mine said,
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"U ratu", rekao je jedan moj prijatelj,
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"is not about sound at all.
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"uopće nije bitan zvuk.
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It is actually about silence,
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Ono što je bitno zapravo je tišina,
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the silence of humanity."
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tišina čovječanstva."
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I have since left Iraq
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Otišla sam iz Iraka
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and founded a group called Women for Women International
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i osnovala grupu "Žene za žene International"
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that ends up working
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koja radi sa ženama
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with women survivors of wars.
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koje su preživjele rat.
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In my travels and in my work,
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Na svojim putovanjima i kroz rad,
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from Congo to Afghanistan,
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od Konga do Afganistana,
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from Sudan to Rwanda,
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od Sudana do Ruande,
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I have learned not only
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naučila sam ne samo
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that the colors and the sounds of war are the same,
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da su boje i zvukovi rata svugdje jednaki,
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but the fears of war are the same.
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nego da je i strah od rata također jednak.
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You know, there is a fear of dying,
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Znate, postoji strah od smrti
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and do not believe any movie character
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i nemojte vjerovati ni jednom liku iz filma
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where the hero is not afraid.
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gdje se glavni junak ne boji.
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It is very scary
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Strašno je
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to go through that feeling
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imati taj osjećaj:
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of "I am about to die"
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"umrijet ću"
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or "I could die in this explosion."
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ili "mogao bih umrijeti u ovoj eksploziji."
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But there's also the fear
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Ali postoji i strah
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of losing loved ones,
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od gubitka voljenih osoba
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and I think that's even worse.
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i mislim da je to još i gore.
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It's too painful. You don't want to think about it.
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Prebolno je; ne želite ni razmišljati o tome.
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But I think the worst kind of fear is the fear --
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Ali mislim da je najgori strah --
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as Samia, a Bosnian woman, once told me,
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kao što mi je Samia, žena iz Bosne, jednom rekla,
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who survived the four-years besiege of Sarajevo;
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a ona je preživjela četiri godine opsade Sarajeva,
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she said, "The fear
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rekla je:
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of losing
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"Strah od gubitka
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the 'I' in me,
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same sebe,
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the fear of losing
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strah od gubitka
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the 'I' in me."
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same sebe."
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That's what my mother in Iraq
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To mi je i moja majka u Iraku
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used to tell me.
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znala govoriti.
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It's like dying from inside-out.
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To je kao da umirete iznutra.
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A Palestinian woman once told me,
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Jedna žena iz Palestine jednom mi je rekla:
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"It is not about the fear of one death,"
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"Nije to strah od jedne smrti,"
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she said, "sometimes I feel
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rekla je, "ponekad se osjećam
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I die 10 times in one day,"
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kao da umrem 10 puta na dan",
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as she was describing the marches of soldiers
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dok je opisivala vojnike kako marširaju
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and the sounds of their bullets.
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i zvukove njihovih metaka.
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She said, "But it's not fair,
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Još je rekla: "Ali nije pošteno,
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because there is only one life,
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jer postoji samo jedan život,
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and there should only be one death."
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i trebala bi postojati samo jedna smrt."
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We have been only seeing
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Do sada smo vidjeli
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one side of war.
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samo jednu stranu rata.
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We have only been discussing and consumed
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Raspravljali smo i slušali
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with high-level preoccupations
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samo o važnim temama,
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over troop levels, drawdown timelines,
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o postrojbama, vremenskim crtama,
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surges and sting operations,
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o napadima i tajnim operacijama,
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when we should be examining the details
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a zapravo bismo trebali ispitivati detalje
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of where the social fabric
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o tome gdje je tkivo društva
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has been most torn,
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najviše oštećeno,
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where the community has improvised
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gdje je zajednica improvizirala
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and survived
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i preživjela
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and shown acts of resilience
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i pokazala otpornost
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and amazing courage
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i zadivljujuću hrabrost
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just to keep life going.
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samo da bi održala svakodnevni život.
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We have been so consumed
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Toliko smo zadubljeni
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with seemingly objective discussions
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u naoko objektivne rasprave
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of politics, tactics,
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o politici, taktikama,
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weapons, dollars
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oružju, dolarima
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and casualties.
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i žrtvama.
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This is the language
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To je jezik
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of sterility.
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sterilnosti.
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How casually
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Kako olako
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we treat casualties
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govorimo o žrtvama
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in the context of this topic.
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u kontekstu ove teme.
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This is where we conceive of rape and casualties
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Ovdje silovanje i žrtve
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as inevitabilities.
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smatramo neizbježnima.
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Eighty percent of refugees around the world
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80 posto izbjeglica u cijelom svijetu
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are women and children. Oh.
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žene su i djeca.
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Ninety percent of modern war casualties
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90 posto žrtava novijih ratova
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are civilians.
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jesu civili --
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Seventy-five percent of them are women and children.
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75 posto njih žene su i djeca.
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How interesting.
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Kako zanimljivo.
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Oh, half a million women in Rwanda
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Pola milijuna žena u Ruandi
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get raped in 100 days.
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biva silovano u 100 dana.
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Or, as we speak now,
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Ili, dok ovo govorim,
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hundreds of thousands of Congolese women
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stotine tisuća žena u Kongu
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are getting raped and mutilated.
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biva silovano i unakaženo.
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How interesting.
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Kako zanimljivo.
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These just become numbers that we refer to.
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One postaju samo brojevi koje navodimo.
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The front of wars
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Na ratnim frontovima
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is increasingly non-human eyes
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sve više su oči koje nisu ljudske,
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peering down on our perceived enemies
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koje pozorno gledaju naše zamišljene neprijatelje
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from space,
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iz svemira
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guiding missiles toward unseen targets,
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i navode projektile prema neviđenim metama,
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while the human conduct
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a ljudski faktor javlja se u obliku
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of the orchestra of media relations
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medijskog orkestra
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in the event that this particular drone attack
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u slučaju da je žrtva ovog konkretnog napada
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hits a villager
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bio neki seljak
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instead of an extremist.
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umjesto ekstremista.
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It is a chess game.
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To je igra šaha.
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You learn to play an international relations school
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Naučite igrati u školi za međunarodne odnose,
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on your way out and up
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probijate se prema vrhu,
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to national and international leadership.
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sve do vodeće pozicije na državnoj i međunarodnoj razini.
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Checkmate.
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Šah-mat.
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We are missing
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Propuštamo
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a completely other side of wars.
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potpuno drugu stranu ratova.
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We are missing my mother's story,
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Propuštamo priču moje majke,
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who made sure with every siren, with every raid,
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koja se pobrinula da tijekom svake uzbune, svake racije,
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with every cut off-of electricity,
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svakog nestanka struje,
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she played puppet shows for my brothers and I,
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izvodi lutkarske predstave za moju braću i mene,
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so we would not be scared
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kako se ne bismo bojali
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of the sounds of explosions.
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zvukova eksplozija.
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We are missing the story of Fareeda,
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Propuštamo Faridinu priču.
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a music teacher,
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Ona je bila profesorica glazbenog odgoja,
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a piano teacher, in Sarajevo,
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poučavala je klavir u Sarajevu.
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who made sure
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Pobrinula se
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that she kept the music school open
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da glazbena škola ostane otvorena
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every single day
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baš svaki dan
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in the four years of besiege in Sarajevo
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tijekom četiri godine opsade Sarajeva
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and walked to that school,
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i pješice je dolazila u tu školu,
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despite the snipers shooting
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unatoč pucnjavi iz snajpera,
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at that school and at her,
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usmjerenoj na tu školu i na nju samu
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and kept the piano, the violin, the cello
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i osigurala je da klavir, violina i violončelo
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playing the whole duration of the war,
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sviraju tijekom cijelog rata,
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with students wearing their gloves and hats and coats.
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s učenicima u rukavicama, kapama i kaputima.
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That was her fight.
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To je bila njena borba.
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That was her resistance.
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To je bio njen otpor.
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We are missing the story of Nehia,
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Propuštamo Nehijinu priču.
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a Palestinian woman in Gaza
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Ona je Palestinka iz Gaze.
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who, the minute there was a cease-fire in the last year's war,
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Onog trena kad je proglašeno primirje u prošlogodišnjem ratu,
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she left out of home,
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izišla je iz svoje kuće,
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collected all the flour
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skupila sve brašno
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and baked as much bread for every neighbor to have,
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i ispekla dovoljno kruha za sve susjede,
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in case there is no cease-fire the day after.
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za slučaj da idućeg dana ne bude primirja.
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We are missing
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the stories of Violet,
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Violetine priče.
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who, despite surviving genocide in the church massacre,
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Iako je preživjela genocid u masakru u crkvi,
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she kept on going on,
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išla je dalje,
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burying bodies, cleaning homes, cleaning the streets.
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zakapala je tijela, gradila domove, čistila ulice.
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We are missing stories of women
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Propuštamo priče žena
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who are literally keeping life going
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koje su doslovce održavale život
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in the midst of wars.
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usred ratova.
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Do you know --
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Znate li --
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do you know that people fall in love in war
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znate li da se ljudi zaljubljuju tijekom rata
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and go to school
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i idu u školu
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and go to factories and hospitals
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i odlaze u tvornice i bolnice
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and get divorced and go dancing and go playing
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i razvode se i plešu i igraju se
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and live life going?
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i žive život?
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And the ones who are keeping that life
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A one koje održavaju taj život
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are women.
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jesu žene.
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There are two sides of war.
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Rat ima dvije strane.
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There is a side that fights,
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Postoji strana koja se bori,
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and there is a side that keeps the schools
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i postoji strana koja drži škole
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and the factories and the hospitals open.
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i tvornice i bolnice otvorenima.
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There is a side that is focused on winning battles,
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Postoji strana koja je usredotočena na pobjeđivanje u bitkama
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and there is a side that is focused
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i postoji strana koja je usredotočena
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on winning life.
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na pobjeđivanje u životu.
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There is a side that leads the front-line discussion,
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Postoji strana koja vodi rasprave na frontu,
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and there is a side
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i postoji strana
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that leads the back-line discussion.
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koja vodi rasprave u pozadini.
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There is a side that thinks
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that peace is the end of fighting,
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da je mir kraj borbe,
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and there is a side that thinks
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a postoji i strana koja misli
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that peace is the arrival
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da je mir otvaranje
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of schools and jobs.
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škola i radnih mjesta.
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There is a side
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that is led by men,
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koju vode muškarci,
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and there is a side
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a postoji i strana
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that is led by women.
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koju vode žene.
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And in order for us to understand
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A kako bismo mogli razumjeti
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how do we build lasting peace,
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kako se gradi trajni mir,
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we must understand war and peace
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moramo razumjeti rat i mir,
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from both sides.
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s obje strane.
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We must have a full picture
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Moramo u cijelosti shvatiti
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of what that means.
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što to znači.
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In order for us to understand
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what actually peace means,
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što mir stvarno znači,
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we need to understand,
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moramo shvatiti,
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as one Sudanese woman once told me,
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kao što mi je rekla jedna žena iz Sudana,
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"Peace is the fact that my toenails
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"Mir je činjenica da mi nokti na nogama
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are growing back again."
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ponovno rastu."
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She grew up in Sudan, in Southern Sudan,
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Odrasla je u južnom Sudanu,
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for 20 years of war,
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tijekom 20 godina rata,
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where it killed one million people
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gdje je ubijeno milijun ljudi
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and displaced five million refugees.
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i protjerano pet milijuna izbjeglica.
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Many women were taken as slaves
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Mnoge su žene zarobljene
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by rebels and soldiers,
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od strane pobunjenika i vojnika,
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as sexual slaves who were forced also
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kao seksualne robinje koje su bile prisiljene
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to carry the ammunition and the water
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i da nose streljivo i vodu
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and the food for the soldiers.
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i hranu vojnicima.
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So that woman walked for 20 years,
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Tako je i ta žena hodala 20 godina,
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so she would not be kidnapped again.
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kako ne bi ponovno bila oteta.
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And only when there was some sort of peace,
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I tek kad je postignut kakav-takav mir,
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her toenails grew back again.
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ponovno su joj narasli nokti na nogama.
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We need to understand peace
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Moramo shvatiti mir
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from a toenail's perspective.
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iz perspektive noktiju na nogama.
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We need to understand
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that we cannot actually have negotiations
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da ne možemo imati prave pregovore
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of ending of wars or peace
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o prekidanju ratova ili o miru,
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without fully including women
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a da potpuno ne uključimo žene
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at the negotiating table.
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za pregovaračkim stolom.
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I find it amazing
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Fascinantno mi je
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that the only group of people
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da jedina skupina ljudi
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who are not fighting and not killing
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koja se ne bori i ne ubija
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and not pillaging and not burning and not raping,
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i ne pljačka i ne pali i ne siluje,
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and the group of people who are mostly --
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grupa ljudi koja uglavnom --
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though not exclusively --
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iako ne isključivo --
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who are keeping life going in the midst of war,
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održava svakodnevni život tijekom rata,
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are not included in the negotiating table.
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nije uključena u pregovore.
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And I do argue that women lead the back-line discussion,
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Iako tvrdim da su žene u pozadini rasprava,
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but there are also men
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postoje i muškarci
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who are excluded from that discussion.
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koji u te rasprave nisu uključeni.
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The doctors who are not fighting,
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Liječnici koji se ne bore,
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the artists, the students, the men who refuse to pick up the guns,
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umjetnici, studenti, muškarci koji odbijaju primiti oružje u ruke,
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they are, too, excluded
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i oni su isključeni
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from the negotiating tables.
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iz pregovora.
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There is no way we can talk about a lasting peace,
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Ne možemo govoriti o trajnom miru,
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building of democracy, sustainable economies,
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izgradnji demokracije, održivom gospodarstvu
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any kind of stabilities,
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ni o kakvoj stabilnosti,
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if we do not fully include women
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ako žene nisu u potpunosti uključene
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at the negotiating table.
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u pregovore.
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Not one, but 50 percent.
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Ne jedan, nego 50 posto.
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There is no way we can talk about the building of stability
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Ne možemo govoriti o izgradnji stabilnosti
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if we don't start investing
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ako ne počnemo ulagati
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in women and girls.
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u žene i djevojke.
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Did you know
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Jeste li znali
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that one year
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da je jedna godina
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of the world's military spending
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svjetske potrošnje na vojske
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equals 700 years
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ekvivalentna 700 godina
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of the U.N. budget
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UN-ovog budžeta,
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and equals 2,928 years
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i da je ekvivalentna 2.928 godina
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of the U.N. budget allocated for women?
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UN-ovog budžeta namijenjenog za žene?
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If we just reverse
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Kad bismo samo preokrenuli
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that distribution of funds,
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tu raspodjelu sredstava,
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perhaps we could have
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možda bismo mogli imati
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a better lasting peace in this world.
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nešto trajniji mir u svijetu.
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And last, but not least,
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Na kraju, ali ne manje važno,
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we need to invest in peace and women,
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moramo ulagati u mir i u žene,
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not only because it is the right thing to do,
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ne samo zato što je to ispravno,
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not only because it is the right thing to do,
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ne samo zato što je ispravno
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for all of us to build sustainable and lasting peace today,
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da svi gradimo održiv i trajan mir već danas,
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but it is for the future.
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već zato što je to za budućnost.
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A Congolese woman,
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Jedna žena iz Konga
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who was telling me about
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pričala mi je
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how her children saw their father killed in front of them
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kako su njena djeca gledala kako im otac biva ubijen
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and saw her raped in front of them
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i kako nju siluju
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and mutilated in front of them,
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i kako je unakažuju pred njima,
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and her children saw their nine-year-old sibling
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i kako su njena djeca gledala svog devetogodišnjeg brata
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killed in front of them,
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kako biva ubijen njima pred očima
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how they're doing okay right now.
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i kako su sada dobro.
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She got into Women for Women International's program.
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Uključila se u program "Žene za žene International".
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She got a support network.
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Dobila je grupu za potporu.
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She learned about her rights.
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Naučila je koja su joj prava.
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We taught her vocational and business skills. We helped her get a job.
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Naučili smo je obrtničkim i poslovnim vještinama. Pomogli smo joj da pronađe posao.
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She was earning 450 dollars. She was doing okay.
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Zarađivala je 450 dolara. Išlo joj je dobro.
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She was sending them to school. Have a new home.
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Slala je djecu u školu, imali su novi dom.
15:08
She said, "But what I worry about the most
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Rekla je: "Ali ono što me najviše brine
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is not any of that.
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nije ništa od toga.
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I worry that my children
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Brinem se da će moja djeca
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have hate in their hearts,
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nositi mržnju u svojim srcima,
15:18
and when they want to grow up, they want to fight again
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i da će se, kad odrastu, htjeti ponovno boriti
15:21
the killers of their father and their brother."
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protiv ubojica svog oca i svog brata."
15:25
We need to invest in women,
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Moramo ulagati u žene,
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because that's our only chance
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jer to nam je jedina šansa
15:31
to ensure that there is no more war
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da osiguramo da više ne bude ratova
15:33
in the future.
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u budućnosti.
15:35
That mother has a better chance to heal her children
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Ta majka ima bolje šanse da izliječi svoju djecu
15:38
than any peace agreement can do.
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nego ikoji mirovni sporazum.
15:42
Are there good news? Of course, there are good news. There are lots of good news.
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Ima li dobrih vijesti? Naravno, ima mnogo dobih vijesti.
15:45
To start with, these women that I told you about
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Za početak, žene o kojima sam vam govorila
15:48
are dancing and singing every single day,
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plešu i pjevaju svaki dan,
15:51
and if they can,
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a ako one to mogu,
15:53
who are we not to dance?
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tko smo mi da ne plešemo?
15:55
That girl that I told you about
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Ona djevojka o kojoj sam vam govorila
15:57
ended up starting Women for Women International Group
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osnovala je grupu "Žene za žene International",
16:00
that impacted one million people, sent 80 million dollars,
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koja je pomogla milijun ljudi, poslala 80 milijuna dolara,
16:03
and I started this from zero,
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a počela sam od nule,
16:05
nothing, nada, [unclear].
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ničega, ništice.
16:08
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
16:11
They are women who are standing on their feet
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Postoje žene koje ostaju na nogama
16:14
in spite of their circumstances,
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unatoč svim okolnostima,
16:17
not because of it.
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a ne zbog njih.
16:20
Think of how the world can be a much better place
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Zamislite kako svijet može biti mnogo bolje mjesto
16:23
if, for a change,
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kad bismo, za promjenu,
16:25
we have a better equality,
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imali više jednakosti.
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we have equality,
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Imamo jednakost,
16:29
we have a representation
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imamo predstavnike
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and we understand war,
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i razumijemo rat,
16:33
both from the front-line
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kako iz prvih redova,
16:35
and the back-line discussion.
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tako i iz pozadinske rasprave.
16:37
Rumi, a 13th-century Sufi poet,
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Rumi, turski pjesnik iz 13. stoljeća,
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says, "Out beyond the worlds
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kaže: "Negdje iza svjetova
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of right-doings and wrong-doings,
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ispravnih i krivih postupaka
16:45
there is a field.
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postoji polje.
16:47
I will meet you there.
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Sastat ćemo se ondje.
16:49
When the soul lies down in that grass,
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Kad duša legne u tu travu,
16:52
the world is too full
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svijet je prepun
16:54
to talk about.
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da bi se o njemu razgovaralo.
16:56
Ideas, language,
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Ideje, jezici,
16:58
even the phrase 'each other'
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čak ni izraz "jedni druge"
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no longer makes any sense."
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više nema smisla."
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I humbly add -- humbly add --
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Skromno dodajem --
17:07
that out beyond
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da negdje iza
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the worlds of war and peace,
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svjetova rata i mira
17:12
there is a field,
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postoji polje,
17:14
and there are many women and men
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i postoji mnogo žena i muškaraca
17:17
[who] are meeting there.
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koji se ondje sastaju.
17:20
Let us make this field a much bigger place.
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Učinimo to polje mnogo većim.
17:23
Let us all meet in that field.
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Sastanimo se svi na tom polju.
17:26
Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
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(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Zainab Salbi - Activist and social entrepreneurIraqi-born Zainab Salbi founded and runs Women for Women International, and has dedicated her life to helping women in war-torn regions rebuild their lives and communities.
Why you should listen
In her memoir Hidden in Plain Sight: Growing Up in the Shadow of Saddam, Zainab Salbi writes of being raised in Saddam Hussein's inner circle -- her father was Saddam's personal pilot. She left Iraq for an arranged marriage in the US, which quickly became another form of tyranny. But in 1993, when she heard of the rape and concentration camps in Bosnia, she realized she could no longer remain passive. Salbi founded Women for Women International to help women who are victims of war in every way -- from those who've been physically harmed to those who suffer from the poverty that war and strife inevitably bring. WFWI provides economic and emotional aid, job-skills training, and rights education, empowering women to stop the cycle of violence and create social change.
In her latest book, The Other Side of War, she shares personal stories of women's experience in conflict. As she writes: "War is not a computer-generated missile striking a digital map. War is the color of earth as it explodes in our faces, the sound of child pleading, the smell of smoke and fear. Women survivors of war are not the single image portrayed on the television screen, but the glue that holds families and countries together. Perhaps by understanding women, and the other side of war ... we will have more humility in our discussions of wars... perhaps it is time to listen to women's side of history."
Zainab Salbi | Speaker | TED.com