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Carne Ross: An independent diplomat
Carne Ross: Nezavisni diplomat
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Nakon 15 godina u britanskom diplomatskom zboru, Carne Ross postao je "diplomat honorarac", vodeći odvažnu neprofitnu organizaciju koja malim i još nepriznatim narodima daje glas u međunarodnim odnosima. Na konferencije BIF-5, on poziva na novu vrstu diplomacije koja će pomagati malim zemljama, koja radi na promjenama granica i koja potiče inovacije.
Carne Ross - Diplomat
Carne Ross is the founder of Independent Diplomat, a nonprofit that offers freelance diplomatic representation to small, developing and yet-unrecognized nations in the complex world of international negotiations. Full bio
Carne Ross is the founder of Independent Diplomat, a nonprofit that offers freelance diplomatic representation to small, developing and yet-unrecognized nations in the complex world of international negotiations. Full bio
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My story is a little bit about war.
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Moja oriče je pomalo o ratu.
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It's about disillusionment.
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O razočaranju.
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It's about death.
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O smrti.
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And it's about rediscovering
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I o ponovnom otkrivanju
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idealism
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idealizma
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in all of that wreckage.
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u svom tom uništenju.
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And perhaps also, there's a lesson
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Možda u mojoj priči bude i pouka
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about how to deal with
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kako se nositi
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our screwed-up, fragmenting
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s našim zeznutim, raspadajućim
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and dangerous world of the 21st century.
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i opasnim svijetom u 21. stoljeću.
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I don't believe in straightforward narratives.
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Ne vjerujem u obično pripovijedanje.
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I don't believe in a life or history
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Ne vjerujem u život ili priču
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written as decision "A" led to consequence "B"
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koji je zapisan kao odluka A koja je dovela do posljedice B
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led to consequence "C" --
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koja je dovela do posljedice C --
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these neat narratives that we're presented with,
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kao u urednim pričama koje obično čujemo,
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and that perhaps we encourage in each other.
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i koje možda tražimo jedni od drugih.
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I believe in randomness,
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Vjerujem u slučajne događaje,
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and one of the reasons I believe that
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a jedan od razloga zašto to vjerujem
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is because me becoming a diplomat was random.
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jest taj što sam ja slučajno postao diplomat.
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I'm colorblind.
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Daltonist sam.
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I was born unable to see most colors.
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Rođen sam s manom neraspoznavanja većine boja.
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This is why I wear gray and black most of the time,
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Zato uglavnom nosim sivo i crno
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and I have to take my wife with me
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i moram sa sobom voditi suprugu
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to chose clothes.
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kada biram odjeću.
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And I'd always wanted to be a fighter pilot when I was a boy.
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Dok sam bio malen, uvijek sam želio biti vojni pilot.
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I loved watching planes barrel over
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Obožavao sam gledati avione kako prelijeću
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our holiday home in the countryside.
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našu vikendicu na selu.
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And it was my boyhood dream to be a fighter pilot.
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I dječački mi je san bio da postanem vojni pilot.
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And I did the tests in the Royal Air Force to become a pilot,
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Išao sam na testiranja za pilota u Kraljevskim zračnim snagama,
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and sure enough, I failed.
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i, naravno, pao sam.
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I couldn't see all the blinking different lights,
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Nisam vidio bljeskanje različitih svjetala
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and I can't distinguish color.
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i nisam razlikovao boje.
01:34
So I had to choose another career,
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Zato sam morao odabrati drugo zanimanje,
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and this was in fact relatively easy for me,
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što mi je zapravo bilo relativno lako,
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because I had an abiding passion all the way through my childhood,
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jer sam imao veliku strast kroz cijelo djetinjstvo,
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which was international relations.
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a to su bili međunarodni odnosi.
01:44
As a child,
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Kao dijete,
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I read the newspaper thoroughly.
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pažljivo sam čitao novine.
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I was fascinated by the Cold War,
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Fascinirao me Hladni rat,
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by the INF negotiations
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pregovori oko naoružanja
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over intermediate-range nuclear missiles,
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nuklearnim projektilima srednjeg dometa,
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the proxy war between the Soviet Union and the U.S.
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posrednički rat između Sovjetskog Saveza i SAD-a
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in Angola or Afghanistan.
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u Angoli i Afganistanu.
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These things really interested me.
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Te su me stvarno zaista zanimale.
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And so I decided quite at an early age
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I tako sam vrlo mlad odlučio
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I wanted to be a diplomat.
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da želim biti diplomat.
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And I, one day, I announced this to my parents --
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I jednog sam dana to rekao svojim roditeljima --
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and my father denies this story to this day --
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a moj otac do danas poriče ovu priču --
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I said, "Daddy, I want to be a diplomat."
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rekao sam: "Tata, ja želim biti diplomat."
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And he turned to me, and he said,
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A on se okrenuo prema meni i rekao:
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"Carne, you have to be very clever to be a diplomat."
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"Carne, moraš biti vrlo pametan da bi bio diplomat."
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
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And my ambition was sealed.
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Time je moja ambicija bila zapečaćena.
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In 1989,
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1989. godine
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I entered the British Foreign Service.
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zaposlio sam se u britanskom Ministarstvu vanjskih poslova.
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That year, 5,000 people applied to become a diplomat,
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Te se godine 5.000 ljudi prijavilo da postanu diplomati,
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and 20 of us succeeded.
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a uspjelo nas je 20.
02:35
And as those numbers suggest,
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Kako možete zaključiti iz tih brojeva,
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I was inducted into an elite
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uveden sam u elitni,
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and fascinating and exhilarating world.
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fascinantan i uzbudljiv svijet.
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Being a diplomat, then and now,
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Zanimanje diplomata, i tada i danas,
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is an incredible job, and I loved every minute of it --
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nevjerojatan je posao i uživao sam u svakom trenutku.
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I enjoyed the status of it.
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Uživao sam u statusu koji on nosi.
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I bought myself a nice suit and wore leather-soled shoes
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Kupio sam si fino odijelo i nosio cipele s kožnim potplatima
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and reveled in
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i uživao sam
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this amazing access I had to world events.
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u nevjerojatnom pristupu događanjima u svijetu.
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I traveled to the Gaza Strip.
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Putovao sam u pojas Gaze.
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I headed the Middle East Peace Process section
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Bio sam na čelu Odjela za mirovni proces na Bliskom istoku
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in the British Foreign Ministry.
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u britanskom Ministarstvu vanjskih poslova.
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I became a speechwriter
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Pisao sam govore
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for the British Foreign Secretary.
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za britanskog ministra vanjskih poslova.
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I met Yasser Arafat.
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Upoznao sam Yassera Arafata.
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I negotiated
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Pregovarao sam
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with Saddam's diplomats at the U.N.
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sa Saddamovim diplomatima u UN-u.
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Later, I traveled to Kabul
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Kasnije sam putovao u Kabul
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and served in Afghanistan after the fall of the Taliban.
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i služio u Afganistanu nakon pada talibana.
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And I would travel
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Putovao sam
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in a C-130 transport
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vojnim teretnim avionom C-130
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and go and visit warlords
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i posjećivao gerilske vojne zapovjednike
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in mountain hideaways
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u planinskim skloništima
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and negotiate with them
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i s njima pregovarao
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about how we were going to eradicate Al Qaeda from Afghanistan,
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kako ćemo iskorijeniti Al-Qa'idu iz Afganistana.
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surrounded by my Special Forces escort,
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Bio sam okružen svojom pratnjom iz posebnih postrojbi
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who, themselves, had to have an escort of a platoon of Royal Marines,
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koji su pak morali biti u pratnji odreda kraljevskih marinaca
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because it was so dangerous.
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jer to je bilo tako opasno.
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And that was exciting -- that was fun.
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I bilo je uzbudljivo. Bilo je zabavno.
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It was really interesting.
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Bilo je stvarno zanimljivo.
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And it's a great cadre of people,
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To je odličan kadar,
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incredibly close-knit community of people.
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nevjerojatno povezana zajednica ljudi.
03:54
And the pinnacle of my career, as it turned out,
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To je bio i vrhunac moje karijere, što sam shvatio kasnije,
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was when I was posted to New York.
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kad sam raspoređen na službu u New Yorku.
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I'd already served in Germany, Norway,
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Prije toga radio sam u Njemačkoj, Norveškoj,
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various other places,
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i raznim drugim mjestima,
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but I was posted to New York
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ali poslan sam u New York
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to serve on the U.N. Security Council for the British delegation.
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kako bih radio u britanskoj delegaciji u Vijeću sigurnosti u UN-u.
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And my responsibility was the Middle East,
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Bio sam odgovoran za Bliski istok,
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which was my specialty.
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koji je bio moja specijalnost.
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And there, I dealt with things
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Na tom sam se položaju bavio stvarima
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like the Middle East peace process,
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kao što je mirovni proces na Bliskom istoku,
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the Lockerbie issue --
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ili slučaj Lockerbie --
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we can talk about that later, if you wish --
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o tome možemo razgovarati ako želite --
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but above all, my responsibility was Iraq
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ali najviše od svega, moja odgovornost bio je Irak
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and its weapons of mass destruction
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i oružja za masovno uništenje koja ondje postoje
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and the sanctions we placed on Iraq
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i sankcije koje smo nametnuli Iraku
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to oblige it to disarm itself of these weapons.
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kako bismo ga prisilili na uklanjanje tog oružja.
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I was the chief British negotiator
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Bio sam glavni britanski pregovarač
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on the subject,
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za to pitanje
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and I was steeped in the issue.
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i bio sam potpuno posvećem tom problemu.
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And anyway,
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Uglavnom,
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my tour -- it was kind of a very exciting time.
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moj put -- bilo je to na neki način vrlo uzbudljivo.
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I mean it was very dramatic diplomacy.
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Mislim, radilo se o vrlo dramatičnoj diplomaciji.
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We went through several wars
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Prošli smo kroz nekoliko ratova
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during my time in New York.
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za vrijeme dok sam radio u New Yorku.
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I negotiated for my country
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Zastupao sam svoju zemlju
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the resolution in the Security Council
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u rezoluciji u Vijeću sigurnosti
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of the 12th of September 2001
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donesenoj 12. rujna 2001. godine
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condemning the attacks of the day before,
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kojom su se osudili napadi prethodnog dana,
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which were, of course, deeply present to us
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koji su, naravno, bili bolno stvarni nama
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actually living in New York at the time.
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koji smo u to vrijeme živjeli u New Yorku.
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So it was kind of the best of time, worst of times
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Tako da je to na neki način bilo
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kind of experience.
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i slatko i gorko iskustvo.
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I lived the high-life.
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Živio sam ugodnim životom.
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Although I worked very long hours,
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Iako sam mnogo radio,
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I lived in a penthouse in Union Square.
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živio sam u luksuznom stanu na Union Squareu.
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I was a single British diplomat in New York City;
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Bio sam britanski diplomat, bez partnerice, u New Yorku;
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you can imagine what that might have meant.
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možete misliti što je to značilo.
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
05:25
I had a good time.
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Uživao sam.
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But in 2002,
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Ali 2002. godine,
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when my tour came to an end,
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kad je mojem mandatu došao kraj,
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I decided I wasn't going to go back
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odučio sam da se neću vratiti
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to the job that was waiting for me in London.
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poslu koji me čekao u Londonu.
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I decided to take a sabbatical,
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Odlučio sam da odem na dopust
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in fact, at the New School, Bruce.
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u New School, Bruce.
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In some inchoate, inarticulate way
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Na neki nedefiniran, nejasan način,
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I realized that there was something wrong
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shvatio sam da nešto nije u redu
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with my work, with me.
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s mojim poslom, sa mnom.
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I was exhausted,
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Bio sam iscrpljen,
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and I was also disillusioned
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i bio sam također i razočaran
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in a way I couldn't quite put my finger on.
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na način koji nisam točno znao objasniti.
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And I decided to take some time out from work.
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Zato sam odlučio otići na odmor od posla.
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The Foreign Office was very generous.
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Ministarstvo vanjskih poslova bilo je vrlo velikodušno.
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You could take these special unpaid leave, as they called them,
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Mogao sam uzeti poseban neplaćen dopust, kako su oni to zvali,
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and yet remain part of the diplomatic service, but not actually do any work.
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a ipak ostati dio diplomatskog zbora, a da ne radim nikakav posao.
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It was nice.
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To je bilo lijepo.
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And eventually, I decided
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Na kraju sam odlučio
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to take a secondment to join the U.N. in Kosovo,
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uzeti premještaj kako bih se priključio UN-u na Kosovu,
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which was then under U.N. administration.
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koje je bilo pod upravom UN-a.
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And two things happened in Kosovo,
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Dvije su se stvari dogodile na Kosovu,
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which kind of, again,
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koje na neki način, i opet,
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shows the randomness of life,
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ilustriraju slučajnosti u životu,
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because these things turned out to be
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jer te su se stvari pokazale
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two of the pivots of my life
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ključnim točkama u mojem životu
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and helped to deliver me to the next stage.
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i pomogle mi da dođem do iduće faze.
06:30
But they were random things.
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Ali to su bile slučajne stvari.
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One was that, in the summer of 2004,
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Prva je bila to što je, u ljeto 2004. godine,
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the British government, somewhat reluctantly,
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britanska vlada, pomalo nerado,
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decided to have an official inquiry
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odlučila provesti službeno ispitivanje
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into the use of intelligence on WMD
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korištenja informacija o oružju za masovno uništenje
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in the run up to the Iraq War,
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u vrijeme prije iračkog rata --
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a very limited subject.
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vrlo uska tema.
06:46
And I testified to that inquiry in secret.
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I ja sam u tajnosti dao iskaz za to ispitivanje.
06:49
I had been steeped in the intelligence on Iraq
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Bio sam dobro informiran o Iraku
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and its WMD,
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i njihovom oružju za masovno uništenje
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and my testimony to the inquiry said three things:
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i moja je izjava sadržavala tri točke:
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that the government exaggerated the intelligence,
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da je vlada pretjerivala u izvještajima,
07:00
which was very clear in all the years I'd read it.
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što je bilo vrlo jasno svih godina dok sam ih čitao.
07:03
And indeed, our own internal assessment was very clear
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I stvarno, naše unutarnje procjene jasno su otkrile
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that Iraq's WMD
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da oružje za masovno uništenje u Iraku
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did not pose a threat to its neighbors, let alone to us.
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nije predstavljalo prijetnju njihovim susjedima, a kamoli nama.
07:11
Secondly, the government had ignored all available alternatives to war,
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Drugo, vlada je ignorirala moguće alternative ratu,
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which in some ways
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što je, na neki način,
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was a more discreditable thing still.
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još više smanjivalo njezin kredibilitet.
07:19
The third reason, I won't go into.
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U treću stavku neću ulaziti.
07:21
But anyway, I gave that testimony,
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Ali u svakom slučaju, dao sam iskaz
07:23
and that presented me with a crisis.
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i to me dovelo do krize.
07:25
What was I going to do?
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Što da radim?
07:27
This testimony was deeply critical of my colleagues,
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U iskazu sam ozbiljno kritizirao svoje kolege,
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of my ministers, who had, in my view
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svoje ministre, koji su, po meni,
07:32
had perpetrated a war on a falsehood.
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krenuli u rat na temelju lažnih pretpostavki.
07:35
And so I was in crisis.
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I tako sam bio u krizi.
07:37
And this wasn't a pretty thing.
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A to nije bilo ugodno.
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I moaned about it, I hesitated,
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Žalio sam se na to, oklijevao sam,
07:41
I went on and on and on to my long-suffering wife,
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neprestano sam jadikovao svojoj sirotoj supruzi,
07:45
and eventually I decided to resign from the British Foreign Service.
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i na kraju sam odlučio da dam otkaz u britanskom Ministarstvu vanjskih poslova.
07:48
I felt -- there's a scene in the Al Pacino movie "The Insider," which you may know,
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Osjećao sam se -- kao u sceni iz filma Al Pacina "The Insider", možda ga znate,
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where he goes back to CBS
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gdje on odlazi na televiziju CBS
07:54
after they've let him down over the tobacco guy,
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nakon što su mu uskratili potporu u slučaju s proizvođačem cigareta
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and he goes, "You know, I just can't do this anymore. Something's broken."
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i on kaže "Znate, ja ne mogu više. Nešto nije kako treba."
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And it was like that for me. I love that movie.
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Tako je bilo i meni. Obožavam taj film.
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I felt just something's broken.
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Samo sam osjetio da nešto nije kako treba.
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I can't actually sit with my foreign minister
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Ne mogu više samo sjediti s ministrom vanjskih poslova
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or my prime minister again with a smile on my face
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ili premijerom, s osmjehom na licu
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and do what I used to do gladly for them.
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i raditi što sam prije rado radio za njih.
08:11
So took a running leap
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Zato sam se zatrčao
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and jumped over the edge of a cliff.
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i skočio s ruba litice.
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And it was a very, very uncomfortable, unpleasant feeling.
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Bio je to vrlo, vrlo neugodan osjećaj.
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And I started to fall.
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I počeo sam padati.
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And today, that fall hasn't stopped;
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I taj pad do danas nije prestao;
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I'm still falling.
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još uvijek padam.
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But, in a way, I've got used to the sensation of it.
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Ali na neki sam se način privikao na taj osjećaj.
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And in a way, I kind of like
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I na neki način,
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the sensation of it a lot better
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taj mi se osjećaj mnogo više sviđa
08:35
than I like actually standing on top of the cliff,
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nego stajanje na vrhu litice
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wondering what to do.
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i smišljanje što da radim.
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A second thing happened in Kosovo,
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Druga se stvar dogodila na Kosovo.
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which kind of -- I need a quick gulp of water, forgive me.
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I ona je -- trebam popiti malo vode, ispričavam se.
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A second thing happened in Kosovo,
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Druga se stvar dogodila na Kosovu,
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which kind of delivered the answer,
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i donijela je odgovor na pitanje,
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which I couldn't really answer,
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do kojeg ja nisam mogao doći,
08:53
which is, "What do I do with my life?"
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a to je: "Što da radim sa svojim životom?"
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I love diplomacy --
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Volim diplomaciju.
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I have no career --
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Nemam karijere.
09:01
I expected my entire life to be a diplomat, to be serving my country.
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Očekivao sam da ću cijeli život biti diplomat, da ću služiti svojoj zemlji.
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I wanted to be an ambassador,
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Htio sam biti veleposlanik.
09:06
and my mentors, my heroes,
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a svoje mentore, svoje heroje,
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people who got to the top of my profession,
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ljude koji su bili najbolji u mojem zanimanju,
09:10
and here I was throwing it all away.
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sve sam to sada odbacivao.
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A lot of my friends were still in it.
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Mnogi moji prijatelji još uvijek su bili u tom poslu.
09:14
My pension was in it.
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Moja mirovina je ovisila o tom poslu.
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And I gave it up.
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A ja sam odustao od njega.
09:18
And what was I going to do?
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I što da radim?
09:20
And that year, in Kosovo,
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Te godine, na Kosovu,
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this terrible, terrible thing happened, which I saw.
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dogodila se strašna, strašna stvar, a ja sam je vidio.
09:25
In March 2004, there were terrible riots
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U ožujku 2004. godine došlo je do strašnih pobuna
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all over the province -- as it then was -- of Kosovo.
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u cijeloj pokrajini -- što je ono tada i bilo -- Kosovo.
09:30
18 people were killed.
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Ubijeno je 18 ljudi.
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It was anarchy.
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Bila je to anarhija.
09:34
And it's a very horrible thing to see anarchy,
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Bilo je zastrašujuće vidjeti anarhiju,
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to know that the police and the military --
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znati da policija i vojska --
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there were lots of military troops there --
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bilo je prisutno mnogo vojske --
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actually can't stop that rampaging mob
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zapravo ne mogu zaustaviti podivljalu svjetinu
09:42
who's coming down the street.
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koja dolazi ulicom.
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And the only way that rampaging mob coming down the street will stop
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Jedini način da se ta podivljala svjetina koja dolazi niz ulicu zaustavi
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is when they decide to stop
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jest da sami odluče prestati
09:49
and when they've had enough burning and killing.
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kad im bude dovoljno paljenja i ubijanja.
09:51
And that is not a very nice feeling to see, and I saw it.
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To nije naročito lijepo za vidjeti, a ja sam to vidio.
09:54
And I went through it. I went through those mobs.
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I prošao sam to. Probijao sam se kroz rulju.
09:57
And with my Albanian friends, we tried to stop it, but we failed.
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Sa svojim albanskim prijateljima, pokušali smo ih zaustaviti, ali nismo uspjeli.
10:00
And that riot taught me something,
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Ta me pobuna naučila nešto,
10:03
which isn't immediately obvious and it's kind of a complicated story.
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što nije odmah vidljivo i radi se o pomalo kompliciranoj priči.
10:06
But one of the reasons that riot took place --
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Ali jedan od razloga te pobune --
10:08
those riots, which went on for several days, took place --
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tih pobuna, koje su trajale nekoliko dana --
10:10
was because the Kosovo people
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bio je taj što Kosovari
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were disenfranchised from their own future.
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nisu imali utjecaja na vlastitu budućnost.
10:16
There were diplomatic negotiations about the future of Kosovo
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U to su se vrijeme odvijali diplomatski pregovori
10:19
going on then,
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o budućnosti Kosova,
10:21
and the Kosovo government, let alone the Kosovo people,
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a ni vlada Kosova, a kamoli kosovski narod,
10:23
were not actually
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nisu zapravo
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participating in those talks.
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sudjelovali u tim pregovorima.
10:27
There was this whole fancy diplomatic system,
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Postojao je cijeli fini diplomatski sustav,
10:30
this negotiation process about the future of Kosovo,
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taj proces pregovora o budućnosti Kosova,
10:33
and the Kosovars weren't part of it.
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a Kosovari nisu sudjelovali u tome.
10:35
And funnily enough, they were frustrated about that.
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I, tko bi rekao, to ih je frustriralo.
10:38
Those riots were part of the manifestation of that frustration.
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Pobune su bile način ispoljavanja te frustracije.
10:41
It wasn't the only reason,
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To nije bio jedini razlog,
10:43
and life is not simple, one reason narratives.
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jer život nije jednostavna, jednosmjerna priča.
10:45
It was a complicated thing,
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Bilo je komplicirano,
10:47
and I'm not pretending it was more simple than it was.
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i ne činim to jednostavnijim nego što je bilo.
10:49
But that was one of the reasons.
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Ali to je bio jedan od razloga.
10:51
And that kind of gave me the inspiration --
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A to me, recimo, inspiriralo --
10:53
or rather to be precise,
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ili, da budem precizniji,
10:55
it gave my wife the inspiration.
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inspiriralo je moju suprugu.
10:57
She said, "Why don't you advise the Kosovars?
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Rekla je: "Zašto ti ne bi bio savjetnik Kosovarima?
11:00
Why don't you advise their government on their diplomacy?"
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Zašto ne bi savjetovao njihovu vladu ili njihove diplomate?"
11:03
And the Kosovars were not allowed a diplomatic service.
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A Kosovari nisu smjeli imati diplomatsku službu.
11:05
They were not allowed diplomats.
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Nisu smjeli imati diplomate.
11:07
They were not allowed a foreign office
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Nisu smjeli imati ministarstvo vanjskih poslova
11:09
to help them deal with this immensely complicated process,
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koje bi im pomoglo u tom vrlo kompliciranom procesu,
11:12
which became known as the Final Status Process of Kosovo.
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koji je kasnije bio poznat kao Proces za konačni status Kosova.
11:15
And so that was the idea.
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To je, dakle, bila ideja.
11:17
That was the origin of the thing that became Independent Diplomat,
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Tako je nastao Nezavisni diplomat,
11:19
the world's first diplomatic advisory group
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prva diplomatska savjetnička grupa na svijetu,
11:22
and a non-profit to boot.
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i to neprofitna.
11:24
And it began when I flew back from London
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Sve je počelo kad sam se vratio iz Londona
11:27
after my time at the U.N. in Kosovo.
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nakon što sam boravio s UN-om na Kosovu.
11:30
I flew back and had dinner with the Kosovo prime minister and said to him,
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Vratio sam se i otišao na večeru s kosovskim premijerom i rekao sam mu:
11:33
"Look, I'm proposing that I come and advise you on the diplomacy.
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"Predlažem da vas dođem savjetovati o diplomaciji.
11:36
I know this stuff. It's what I do. Why don't I come and help you?"
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Razumijem se u te stvari. Time se bavim. Zašto vam ne bih pomogao?"
11:39
And he raised his glass of raki to me and said,
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Podigao je svoju čašu rakije i rekao:
11:41
"Yes, Carne. Come."
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"Da, Carne. Dođi."
11:43
And I came to Kosovo
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I tako sam došao na Kosovo
11:45
and advised the Kosovo government.
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i savjetovao kosovsku vladu.
11:47
Independent Diplomat ended up advising three successive Kosovo prime ministers
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Nezavisni diplomat na kraju je savjetovao tri kosovska premijera za redom
11:50
and the multi-party negotiation team of Kosovo.
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i višestranački kosovski pregovarački tim.
11:53
And Kosovo became independent.
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I tako je Kosovo postalo nezavisno.
11:56
Independent Diplomat is now established
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Nezavisni diplomat sada je osnovan
11:59
in five diplomatic centers around the world,
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u pet diplomatskih centara u svijetu,
12:01
and we're advising seven or eight
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a savjetujemo sedam ili osam
12:03
different countries, or political groups,
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različitih zemalja ili političkih skupina,
12:06
depending on how you wish to define them --
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ovisi kako ih želite definirati --
12:08
and I'm not big on definitions.
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ali meni definicije nisu naročito bitne.
12:10
We're advising the Northern Cypriots on how to reunify their island.
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Savjetujemo Sjeverne Ciprane kako da ujedine svoj otok.
12:13
We're advising the Burmese opposition,
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Savjetujemo burmansku opoziciju,
12:15
the government of Southern Sudan,
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vladu Južnog Sudana,
12:17
which -- you heard it here first --
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koja će -- ovdje to čujete prvi put --
12:19
is going to be a new country within the next few years.
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postati nova zemlja u sljedećih nekoliko godina.
12:23
We're advising the Polisario Front of the Western Sahara,
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Savjetujemo Front Polisario u zapadnoj Sahari,
12:26
who are fighting to get their country back
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koji se bore da oslobode svoju zemlju
12:28
from Moroccan occupation
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od marokanske okupacije
12:30
after 34 years of dispossession.
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nakon 34 godine otuđenja.
12:33
We're advising various island states in the climate change negotiations,
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Savjetujemo razne otočke zemlje u pregovorima o promjeni klime,
12:36
which is suppose to culminate
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koji bi trebali kulminirati
12:38
in Copenhagen.
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u Kopenhagenu.
12:41
There's a bit of randomness here too
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I ovdje postoji doza slučajnosti
12:43
because, when I was beginning Independent Diplomat,
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jer, kad sam tek počinjao s Nezavisnim diplomatom,
12:45
I went to a party in the House of Lords,
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otišao sam na zabavu u Domu lordova,
12:47
which is a ridiculous place,
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što je presmiješno,
12:49
but I was holding my drink like this, and I bumped into
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ali držao sam svoje piće ovako, i zaletio sam se
12:51
this guy who was standing behind me.
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u tipa koji je stajao iza mene.
12:53
And we started talking, and he said --
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Tako smo počeli razgovarati i on je rekao --
12:55
I told him what I was doing,
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ispričao sam mu čime se bavim,
12:57
and I told him rather grandly
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i rekao sam mu prilično pompozno
12:59
I was going to establish Independent Diplomat in New York.
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da namjeravam osnovati Nezavisnog diplomata u New Yorku.
13:01
At that time there was just me --
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U to vrijeme samo sam ja bio u tome,
13:03
and me and my wife were moving back to New York.
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i selio sam se sa suprugom natrag u New York.
13:05
And he said, "Why don't you see my colleagues in New York?"
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A on je rekao: "Zašto ne odete do mojih kolega u New Yorku?"
13:08
And it turned out
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Ispalo je da
13:10
he worked for an innovation company called ?What If!,
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on radi za tvrtku za inovacije koja se zove ?What If! (?Što Ako!),
13:12
which some of you have probably heard of.
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za koju su neki od vas možda čuli.
13:14
And one thing led to another,
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I tako, spletom okolnosti,
13:16
and I ended up having a desk
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dobio sam stol
13:18
in ?What If! in New York,
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u tvrtki ?What If! u New Yorku,
13:20
when I started Independent Diplomat.
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kad sam započinjao s Nezavisnim diplomatom.
13:22
And watching ?What If!
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A gledanje kako ?What If!
13:24
develop new flavors of chewing gum for Wrigley
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stvara nove okuse žvakaćih guma Wrigley
13:26
or new flavors for Coke
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ili nove okuse Coca-Cole
13:28
actually helped me innovate
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zapravo mi je pomoglo u smišljanju
13:30
new strategies for the Kosovars
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novih inovativnih strategija za Kosovare
13:32
and for the Saharawis of the Western Sahara.
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i Saharavije iz Zapadne Sahare.
13:35
And I began to realize that there are different ways of doing diplomacy --
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Počeo sam shvaćati da postoje drugačiji načini bavljenja diplomacijom,
13:38
that diplomacy, like business,
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da je diplomacija, kao bilo koji posao,
13:40
is a business of solving problems,
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posao rješavanja problema,
13:42
and yet the word innovation doesn't exist in diplomacy;
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a riječ inovacija ipak ne postoji u diplomaciji;
13:45
it's all zero sum games and realpolitik
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to je sve igra nulte sume i realpolitike
13:48
and ancient institutions that have been there for generations
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i starih institucija koje postoje već generacijama
13:51
and do things the same way they've always done things.
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i sve rade na isti način kao što su to oduvijek radili.
13:54
And Independent Diplomat, today,
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A Nezavisni diplomat danas
13:56
tries to incorporate some of the things I learned at ?What If!.
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pokušava ukopiti neke od stvari koje sam naučio u ?What If!.
13:59
We all sit in one office and shout at each other across the office.
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Svi sjedimo u uredu i dovikujemo se jedni s drugima.
14:02
We all work on little laptops and try to move desks to change the way we think.
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Svi radimo na malim laptopima i nastojimo pomicati stolove da bismo promijenili način razmišljanja.
14:05
And we use naive experts
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Angažiramo naivne stručnjake
14:07
who may know nothing about the countries we're dealing with,
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koji možda ne znaju ništa o zemljama kojima se bavimo,
14:10
but may know something about something else
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ali možda znaju nešto o nečem drugom,
14:12
to try to inject new thinking
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što bi moglo ubaciti novi način razmišljanja
14:14
into the problems
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o problemima
14:16
that we try to address for our clients.
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koje se trudimo riješiti za naše klijente.
14:18
It's not easy, because our clients, by definition,
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To nije lako jer naši su klijenti, po prirodi stvari,
14:20
are having a difficult time, diplomatically.
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u teškoj situaciji, diplomatski gledano.
14:25
There are, I don't know,
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Postoji, ne znam,
14:27
some lessons from all of this,
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nekoliko pouka u svemu ovome,
14:30
personal and political --
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osobnih i političkih --
14:32
and in a way, they're the same thing.
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i, na neki način, one su sve ista stvar.
14:35
The personal one
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Osobna je pouka
14:37
is falling off a cliff
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to da je padanje s litice
14:39
is actually a good thing, and I recommend it.
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zapravo dobra stvar, i preporučam je.
14:43
And it's a good thing to do at least once in your life
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I dobro je barem jednom u životu
14:45
just to tear everything up and jump.
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jednostavno raskinuti sa svime i skočiti.
14:49
The second thing is a bigger lesson about the world today.
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Druga stvar je veća pouka o današnjem svijetu.
14:52
Independent Diplomat is part of a trend
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Nezavisni diplomat dio je trenda
14:55
which is emerging and evident across the world,
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koji se tek pojavljuje i primjetan je u cijelom svijetu,
14:58
which is that the world is fragmenting.
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a to je da se svijet cijepa.
15:01
States mean less than they used to,
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Države imaju manje značenje nego prije,
15:04
and the power of the state is declining.
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a moć države sve je manja.
15:06
That means the power of others things is rising.
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To znači da se povećava moć drugih stvari.
15:08
Those other things are called non-state actors.
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Te se stvari zovu nedržavni faktori.
15:10
They may be corporations,
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To mogu biti korporacije,
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they may be mafiosi, they may be nice NGOs,
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mogu biti mafijaši, mogu biti fine nevladine organizacije,
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they may anything,
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to može biti bilo tko,
15:17
any number of things.
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bilo kakva organizacija.
15:19
We are living in a more complicated and fragmented world.
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Živimo u sve kompliciranijem i rascjepanijem svijetu.
15:22
If governments are less able
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Ako vlade su vlade manje sposobne
15:24
to affect the problems
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utjecati na probleme u svijetu
15:26
that affect us in the world,
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koji utječu na nas,
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then that means, who is left to deal with them,
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onda to znači - tko je ostao da ih rješava.
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who has to take greater responsibility to deal with them?
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tko mora preuzeti veliku odgovornost da ih rješava?
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Us.
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Mi.
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If they can't do it, who's left to deal with it?
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Ako oni to ne mogu, tko je preostao da ih riješi?
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We have no choice but to embrace that reality.
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Nemamo drugog izbora osim da prihvatimo tu stvarnost.
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What this means is
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A to znači
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it's no longer good enough
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da više nije dovoljno
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to say that international relations, or global affairs,
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da kažemo da međunarodni odnosi, ili svjetski problemi,
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or chaos in Somalia,
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ili kaos u Somaliji,
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or what's going on in Burma is none of your business,
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ili ono što se događa u Burmi nije naš problem.
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and that you can leave it to governments to get on with.
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i da možete ostaviti vladama da se time bave.
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I can connect any one of you
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Svakoga od vas mogu
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by six degrees of separation
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preko šest stupnjeva udaljenosti
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to the Al-Shabaab militia in Somalia.
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povezati s paravojskom Al-Shabaab u Somaliji.
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Ask me how later, particularly if you eat fish, interestingly enough,
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Pitajte me poslije kako, ako jedete ribu, zanimljivo,
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but that connection is there.
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ali ta veza postoji.
16:11
We are all intimately connected.
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Blisko smo povezani.
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And this isn't just Tom Friedman,
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I ne radi se tu samo o Tomu Friedmanu,
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it's actually provable in case after case after case.
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to je zapravo dokazivo u svakom novom slučaju.
16:18
What that means is, instead of asking your politicians to do things,
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A to znači da, umjesto da tražite političare da obavljaju stvari,
16:21
you have to look to yourself to do things.
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morate sami odlučiti obavljati stvari.
16:24
And Independent Diplomat is a kind of example of this
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Nezavisni diplomat je primjer toga,
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in a sort of loose way.
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na neki širok način.
16:28
There aren't neat examples, but one example is this:
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Ne postoje savršeni primjeri, ali evo jednog:
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the way the world is changing
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način na koji se svijet mijenja
16:33
is embodied in what's going on at the place I used to work --
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utjelovljen je u situaciji na mjestu gdje sam nekad radio,
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the U.N. Security Council.
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u Vijeću sigurnosti UN-a.
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The U.N. was established in 1945.
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UN je osnovan 1945. godine.
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Its charter is basically designed
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UN je izvorno zamišljen
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to stop conflicts between states --
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kako bi zaustavio sukobe između zemalja --
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interstate conflict.
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međudržavne sukobe.
16:46
Today, 80 percent of the agenda
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Danas se 80% predmeta na dnevnom redu
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of the U.N. Security Council
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Vijeća sigurnosti UN-a
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is about conflicts within states,
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odnosi na sukobe unutar država,
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involving non-state parties --
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koji uključuju nedržavne aktere --
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guerillas, separatists,
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gerilce, separatiste,
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terrorists, if you want to call them that,
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teroriste, ako ih hoćete tako nazvati,
16:58
people who are not normal governments, who are not normal states.
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ljude koji nisu dio uobičajenih vlada, uobičajenih država.
17:01
That is the state of the world today.
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Takvo je danas stanje svijeta.
17:04
When I realized this,
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Kad sam to shvatio,
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and when I look back on my time at the Security Council
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i kad razmišljam o vremenu provedenom u Vijeću sigurnosti
17:09
and what happened with the Kosovars,
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i o onome što se dogodilo Kosovarima,
17:11
and I realize that often
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shvaćam da često
17:13
the people who were most directly affected
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ljudi na koje je najizravnije utjecalo
17:15
by what we were doing in the Security Council
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ono što smo radili mi u Vijeću sigurnosti
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weren't actually there, weren't actually invited
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nisu uopće bili prisutni, nisu bili pozvani
17:19
to give their views to the Security Council,
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da iznesu svoja stajališta pred Vijećem sigurnosti.
17:21
I thought, this is wrong.
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Mislio sam da to nije u redu.
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Something's got to be done about this.
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Nešto se mora učiniti u vezi toga.
17:25
So I started off in a traditional mode.
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Zato sam počeo tradicionalnim putem.
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Me and my colleagues at Independent Diplomat
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Ja i moji kolege u Nezavisnom diplomatu
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went around the U.N. Security Council.
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išli smo po cijelom Vijeću sigurnosti.
17:32
We went around 70 U.N. member states --
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Obišli smo 70 zemalja članica UN-a --
17:34
the Kazaks, the Ethiopians, the Israelis --
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Kazahstance, Etiopljanje, Izraelce --
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you name them, we went to see them --
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sve smo ih posjetili --
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the secretary general, all of them,
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glavnog tajnika, sve.
17:40
and said, "This is all wrong.
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I rekao sam: "Sve je ovo pogrešno.
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This is terrible that you don't consult these people who are actually affected.
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Strašno je da ne konzultirate ljude na koje sve ovo utječe.
17:44
You've got to institutionalize a system
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Morate institucionalizirati sustav
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where you actually invite the Kosovars
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u kojem ćete pozvati Kosovare
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to come and tell you what they think.
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da dođu i kažu vam što misle.
17:50
This will allow you to tell me -- you can tell them what you think.
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Tako ćete mi moći reći -- moći ćete njima reći što vi mislite.
17:52
It'll be great. You can have an exchange.
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Bit će sjajno. Možete imati razmjenu.
17:54
You can actually incorporate these people's views into your decisions,
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Možete uključiti stajališta tih ljudi u svoje odluke,
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which means your decisions will be more effective and durable."
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što znači da će vaše odluke biti učinkovitije i trajnije."
18:02
Super-logical, you would think.
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Super-logično, pomislili biste.
18:04
I mean, incredibly logical. So obvious, anybody could get it.
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Mislim, nevjerojatno logično. Tako očito, svi to mogu.
18:06
And of course, everybody got it. Everybody went, "Yes, of course, you're absolutely right.
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Naravno, svi su shvatili što želim. Rekli su: "Da, naravno, u potpunosti si u pravu.
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Come back to us
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Dođi ponovno
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in maybe six months."
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možda za nekih šest mjeseci."
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And of course, nothing happened -- nobody did anything.
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Naravno, ništa se nije dogodilo. Nitko ništa nije učinio.
18:16
The Security Council does its business
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Vijeće sigurnosti danas djeluje
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in exactly the same way today
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na potpuno isti način
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that it did X number of years ago,
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kao i prije X godina,
18:23
when I was there 10 years ago.
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kad sam ondje bio prije 10 godina.
18:26
So we looked at that observation
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Zato smo analizirali
18:28
of basically failure
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taj naš, u biti, neuspjeh
18:30
and thought, what can we do about it.
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i razmislili što tu možemo učiniti.
18:32
And I thought, I'm buggered
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Pomislio sam da sam nadrapao
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if I'm going to spend the rest of my life
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ako namjeravam provesti ostatak života
18:36
lobbying for these crummy governments
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lobirajući da te beskorisne vlade
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to do what needs to be done.
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naprave što se treba napraviti.
18:40
So what we're going to do
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Dakle, ono što ćemo učiniti
18:42
is we're actually going to set up these meetings ourselves.
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jest da sami dogovorimo te sastanke.
18:44
So now, Independent Diplomat
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Sada je Nezavisni diplomat
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is in the process of setting up meetings
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u procesu dogovaranja sastanaka
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between the U.N. Security Council
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između Vijeća sigurnosti UN-a
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and the parties to the disputes
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i sudionika sukoba
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that are on the agenda of the Security Council.
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koji su na dnevnom redu Vijeća sigurnosti.
18:55
So we will be bringing
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Tako ćemo dovesti
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Darfuri rebel groups,
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pobunjeničke skupine iz Darfura,
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the Northern Cypriots and the Southern Cypriots,
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Sjeverne Ciprane i Južne Ciprane,
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rebels from Aceh,
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pobunjenike iz Aceha,
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and awful long laundry list
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i užasno dug popis
19:09
of chaotic conflicts around the world.
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kaotičnih sukoba u cijelom svijetu.
19:12
And we will be trying to bring the parties to New York
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Pokušat ćemo dovesti sve njih u New York
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to sit down in a quiet room
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da sjednu u tihu prostoriju
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in a private setting with no press
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u intimnom okruženju, bez novinara
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and actually explain what they want
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te da objasne što žele
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to the members of the U. N. Security Council,
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pred članovima Vijeća sigurnosti,
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and for the members of the U.N. Security Council
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a da članovi Vijeća sigurnosti
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to explain to them what they want.
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njima objasne što oni žele.
19:27
So there's actually a conversation,
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To će, dakle, biti razgovor
19:29
which has never before happened.
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kakvog još nikad nije bilo.
19:31
And of course, describing all this,
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I, naravno, dok ovo opisujem,
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any of you who know politics will think this is incredibly difficult,
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svi vi koji se razumijete u politiku mislit ćete kako je to vrlo teško
19:37
and I entirely agree with you.
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i ja se u potpunosti slažem s vama.
19:39
The chances of failure are very high,
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Vrlo su velike šanse za neuspjeh,
19:42
but it certainly won't happen
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ali svakako se ništa neće dogoditi
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if we don't try to make it happen.
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ako se za to ne potrudimo.
19:47
And my politics has changed fundamentally
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Moja se politika iz temelja promijenila
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from when I was a diplomat to what I am today,
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otkad sam bio diplomat do ovoga što sam danas
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and I think that outputs is what matters, not process,
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i mislim da su bitni rezultati, a ne proces,
19:55
not technology, frankly, so much either.
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niti, iskreno, tehnologija.
19:58
Preach technology
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Propovjedajte o tehnologiji
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to all the Twittering members of all the Iranian demonstrations
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svim sudionicama prosvjeda u Iranu koji su na Twitteru,
20:03
who are now in political prison in Tehran,
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i koji su sad u političkom zatvoru u Teheranu,
20:06
where Ahmadinejad remains in power.
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gdje je Ahmadinedžad i dalje na vlasti.
20:08
Technology has not delivered political change in Iran.
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Tehnologija nije donijela političke promjene u Iranu.
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You've got to look at the outputs, and you got to say to yourself,
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Morate gledati rezultate, i morate reći sami sebi:
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"What can I do to produce that particular output?"
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"Što mogu učiniti da dobijem takav i takav rezultat?"
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That is the politics of the 21st century,
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To je politika 21. stoljeća.
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and in a way, Independent Diplomat
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Nezavisni diplomat, na neki način,
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embodies that fragmentation, that change,
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utjelovljuje to cijepanje, tu promjenu
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that is happening to all of us.
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koja se događa svima nama.
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That's my story. Thanks.
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To je moja priča. Hvala.
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Carne Ross - DiplomatCarne Ross is the founder of Independent Diplomat, a nonprofit that offers freelance diplomatic representation to small, developing and yet-unrecognized nations in the complex world of international negotiations.
Why you should listen
Carne Ross was a member of the British diplomat corps for a decade and a half -- until a crisis of faith in the system drove him to go freelance. With his nonprofit, Independent Diplomat, he and a team advise small and developing nations without a diplomatic corps, as well as unrecognized nations that would otherwise lack a voice in negotiations on their own futures. His group helped advise the Kosovars in their quest for recognition as a nation, and with Croatia on its application to join the EU. They're now working with Southern Sudan as it approaches a vote to separate (a vote that, on Sept. 8, 2010, US Secretary of State Clinton called "inevitable").
As Ross said to Time magazine, when it profiled him in a 2008 story called "Innovators/Peacemakers": "Our work is based on the belief that everybody has a right to some say in the resolution of their issues." He's the author of the 2007 book Independent Diplomat: Dispatches from an Unaccountable Elite.
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