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Parul Sehgal: An ode to envy
Parul Segal (Parul Sehgal): Oda ljubomori
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Šta je ljubomora? Šta je pokreće i zašto je potajno volimo? Nijedno istraživanje nije nikada uspelo da obuhvati njenu "usamljenost, dugovečnost i sumorno uzbuđenje" - to jest, kaže Parul Segal, izuzev beletristike. U elokventnoj meditaciji ona pretražuje stranice književnosti da pokaže kako ljubomora nije tako drugačija od potrage za znanjem.
Parul Sehgal - Literary critic
Parul Sehgal is an editor for "The New York Times Book Review." Full bio
Parul Sehgal is an editor for "The New York Times Book Review." Full bio
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00:13
So when I was eight years old,
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Kada sam imala osam godina,
00:15
a new girl came to join the class,
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došla je nova devojčica
u naš razred.
u naš razred.
00:17
and she was so impressive,
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Bila je toliko impresivna,
00:20
as the new girl always seems to be.
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kao što uvek deluje
svaka nova devojčica.
svaka nova devojčica.
00:23
She had vast quantities of very shiny hair
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Imala je bujnu, vrlo sjajnu kosu
00:25
and a cute little pencil case,
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i zgodnu malu peratonicu.
00:28
super strong on state capitals,
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Bila je odlična
u glavnim gradovima
u glavnim gradovima
00:32
just a great speller.
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i odlična u pravopisu.
00:34
And I just curdled with jealousy that year,
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I naprosto sam se kiselila
od ljubomore te godine,
od ljubomore te godine,
00:39
until I hatched my devious plan.
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dok nisam smislila svoj opaki plan.
00:43
So one day I stayed a little late after school,
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Tako sam jednog dana
ostala posle predavanja,
ostala posle predavanja,
00:47
a little too late, and I lurked in the girls' bathroom.
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prilično kasno,
vrebajući iz kupatila.
vrebajući iz kupatila.
00:51
When the coast was clear, I emerged,
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Kada je sve bilo čisto,
izvukla sam se,
izvukla sam se,
00:53
crept into the classroom,
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uvukla u učionicu
00:55
and took from my teacher's desk the grade book.
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i uzela dnevnik
sa učiteljskog stola.
sa učiteljskog stola.
00:59
And then I did it.
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I onda sam uradila to.
01:01
I fiddled with my rival's grades,
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Igrala sam se s ocenama
mojih rivala,
mojih rivala,
01:04
just a little, just demoted some of those A's.
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samo sam malo smanjila
neke najbolje ocene.
neke najbolje ocene.
01:07
All of those A's. (Laughter)
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Sve najbolje ocene.
(Smeh)
(Smeh)
01:10
And I got ready to return the book to the drawer,
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I taman kad sam htela
da vratim knjigu u fioku,
da vratim knjigu u fioku,
01:13
when hang on, some of my other classmates
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kad gle, primetih da i
neki drugi iz razreda
neki drugi iz razreda
01:16
had appallingly good grades too.
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imaju užasno dobre ocene.
01:20
So, in a frenzy,
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Tako sam u ludilu,
01:22
I corrected everybody's marks,
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popravila ocene svima,
01:24
not imaginatively.
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ne baš maštovito.
01:26
I gave everybody a row of D's
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Svima sam dala niz dvojki,
01:28
and I gave myself a row of A's,
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a sebi dodala red petica,
01:31
just because I was there, you know, might as well.
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samo zato što sam
bila tamo i mogla.
bila tamo i mogla.
01:34
And I am still baffled by my behavior.
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I još uvek sam zbunjena
svojim ponašanjem.
svojim ponašanjem.
01:40
I don't understand where the idea came from.
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Ne razumem odakle mi ideja,
01:42
I don't understand why I felt so great doing it.
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ni zašto sam se osećala
tako dobro dok sam to radila.
tako dobro dok sam to radila.
01:45
I felt great.
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Osećala sam se super.
01:47
I don't understand why I was never caught.
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Ne razumem zašto nisam bila
nikada uhvaćena.
nikada uhvaćena.
01:50
I mean, it should have been so blatantly obvious.
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Mislim, to je trebalo biti očigledno.
01:51
I was never caught.
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Nikada nisam bila uhvaćena.
01:52
But most of all, I am baffled by,
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No, najviše od svega me zbunjuje
01:55
why did it bother me so much
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zašto me je to toliko morilo
01:56
that this little girl, this tiny little girl,
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što je ova malena devojčica,
01:58
was so good at spelling?
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bila toliko dobra u pravopisu?
02:00
Jealousy baffles me.
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Ljubomora me je zbunjivala.
02:02
It's so mysterious, and it's so pervasive.
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Toliko je tajanstvena
i tako je prodorna.
i tako je prodorna.
02:05
We know babies suffer from jealousy.
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Znamo da bebe pate od ljubomore.
02:08
We know primates do. Bluebirds are actually very prone.
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Znamo i za majmune. Plave ptice
su joj zapravo vrlo sklone.
su joj zapravo vrlo sklone.
02:11
We know that jealousy is the number one cause
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Znamo da je ljubomora
glavni uzrok
glavni uzrok
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of spousal murder in the United States.
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ubistava u braku u SAD,
02:18
And yet, I have never read a study
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a ipak, nikada nisam
pročitala studiju
pročitala studiju
02:21
that can parse to me its loneliness
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koja bi mi raščlanila
njenu usamljenost
njenu usamljenost
02:24
or its longevity or its grim thrill.
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ili dugovečnost ili njeno
sumorno uzbuđenje.
sumorno uzbuđenje.
02:29
For that, we have to go to fiction,
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Za to se moramo obratiti beletristici,
02:31
because the novel is the lab
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jer roman je laboratorija
02:34
that has studied jealousy
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u kojoj se proučavala ljubomora
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in every possible configuration.
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u svim mogućim oblicima.
02:37
In fact, I don't know if it's an exaggeration to say
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Pitam se da li bi bilo
preterano reći -
preterano reći -
02:41
that if we didn't have jealousy,
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kada ne bi bilo ljubomore,
02:43
would we even have literature?
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da li bismo uopšte imali književnost?
02:45
Well no faithless Helen, no "Odyssey."
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Bar ne nevernu Jelenu, ni "Odiseju",
02:49
No jealous king, no "Arabian Nights."
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ni ljubomornog kralja,
ni "1001 noć",
ni "1001 noć",
02:52
No Shakespeare.
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ni Šekspira.
02:55
There goes high school reading lists,
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Tu spada i spisak gimnazijske lektire,
02:57
because we're losing "Sound and the Fury,"
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jer bismo inače izgubili "Buku i bes,"
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we're losing "Gatsby," "Sun Also Rises,"
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"Getsbija", "Sunce se ponovo rađa"
03:01
we're losing "Madame Bovary," "Anna K."
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"Madam Bovari", "Anu K."
03:05
No jealousy, no Proust. And now, I mean,
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Da nema ljubomore,
ne bi bilo ni Prusta.
ne bi bilo ni Prusta.
03:08
I know it's fashionable to say that Proust
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Znam da je pomodno reći da Prust
03:09
has the answers to everything,
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ima odgovore na sve,
03:11
but in the case of jealousy,
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ali u slučaju ljubomore,
03:14
he kind of does.
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nekako ima.
03:16
This year is the centennial of his masterpiece, "In Search of Lost Time,"
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Ove godine je stogodišnjica remek-dela
"U potrazi za izgubljenim vremenom"
"U potrazi za izgubljenim vremenom"
03:20
and it's the most exhaustive study of sexual jealousy
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i to je najiscrpnija studija
seksualne ljubomore,
seksualne ljubomore,
03:24
and just regular competitiveness, my brand,
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kao i obične konkurentnosti,
moje sorte,
moje sorte,
03:27
that we can hope to have. (Laughter)
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za koju se možemo
nadati da je imamo. (Smeh)
nadati da je imamo. (Smeh)
03:29
And we think about Proust, we think
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A kad pomislimo na Prusta, mislimo
03:32
about the sentimental bits, right?
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na sentimentalnosti, zar ne?
03:33
We think about a little boy trying to get to sleep.
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Mislimo o malom dečaku
koji pokušava da zaspi.
koji pokušava da zaspi.
03:35
We think about a madeleine moistened in lavender tea.
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Mislimo o kolaču umočenom
u čaj lavande.
u čaj lavande.
03:39
We forget how harsh his vision was.
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Zaboravili smo kako je bila surova
njegova vizija.
njegova vizija.
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We forget how pitiless he is.
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Zaboravili smo koliko je nemilosrdan.
03:43
I mean, these are books that Virginia Woolf said
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Mislim, to su knjige
za koje je Virdžinija Vulf rekla
za koje je Virdžinija Vulf rekla
03:45
were tough as cat gut.
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da su teške kao mačija utroba.
03:48
I don't know what cat gut is,
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Ne znam šta je mačija utroba,
03:50
but let's assume it's formidable.
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ali pretpostavimo da je teška.
03:53
Let's look at why they go so well together,
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Pogledajmo zašto toliko pašu zajedno,
03:56
the novel and jealousy, jealousy and Proust.
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roman i ljubomora,
ljubomora i Prust.
ljubomora i Prust.
04:00
Is it something as obvious as that jealousy,
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Da li je išta tako očito
kao to da je ljubomora,
kao to da je ljubomora,
04:03
which boils down into person, desire, impediment,
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koja se svodi na osobu,
žudnju i prepreku,
žudnju i prepreku,
04:06
is such a solid narrative foundation?
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takav čvrst temelj za pripovedanje?
04:11
I don't know. I think it cuts very close to the bone,
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Ne znam. Mislim da taj rez
zadire do blizu kosti,
zadire do blizu kosti,
04:14
because let's think about what happens
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jer razmislimo o tome šta se događa
04:16
when we feel jealous.
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kada osećamo ljubomoru.
04:17
When we feel jealous, we tell ourselves a story.
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Kad osećamo ljubomoru,
mi sebi pričamo priču
mi sebi pričamo priču
04:21
We tell ourselves a story about other people's lives,
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o tuđim životima
04:26
and these stories make us feel terrible
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i užasno se osećamo,
04:28
because they're designed to make us feel terrible.
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jer su te priče baš zato i stvorene.
04:31
As the teller of the tale and the audience,
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Kao pripovedač u priči i kao publika,
04:33
we know just what details to include,
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znamo tačno
koje detalje da uključimo,
koje detalje da uključimo,
04:35
to dig that knife in. Right?
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da bismo zarili taj nož.
Zar ne?
Zar ne?
04:39
Jealousy makes us all amateur novelists,
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Ljubomora nas sve čini
amaterskim romanopiscima
amaterskim romanopiscima
04:42
and this is something Proust understood.
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i to je Prust razumeo.
04:44
In the first volume, Swann's Way,
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U prvom delu iz serije knjiga
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the series of books,
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U Svanovom kraju,
04:49
Swann, one of the main characters,
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Svan, jedan od glavnih likova,
04:51
is thinking very fondly of his mistress
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razmišlja vrlo nežno o svojoj ljubavnici,
04:54
and how great she is in bed,
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kako je dobra u krevetu
04:56
and suddenly, in the course of a few sentences,
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i odjednom, u toku nekoliko rečenica,
04:59
and these are Proustian sentences,
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a to su prustovske rečenice
05:01
so they're long as rivers,
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pa su duge kao reke,
05:02
but in the course of a few sentences,
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ali u toku nekoliko rečenica,
05:04
he suddenly recoils and he realizes,
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odjednom se priseća i shvata:
05:07
"Hang on, everything I love about this woman,
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"Čekaj malo, sve što volim u toj ženi
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somebody else would love about this woman.
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mogao bi i neko drugi da voli.
05:14
Everything that she does that gives me pleasure
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Sve što ona radi i što mi prija,
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could be giving somebody else pleasure,
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moglo bi prijati i nekom drugom,
05:19
maybe right about now."
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i to možda baš sada."
05:21
And this is the story he starts to tell himself,
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To je priča koju počinje sebi da priča,
05:24
and from then on, Proust writes that
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i od tada, Prust piše da
05:26
every fresh charm Swann detects in his mistress,
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svaku svežinu šarma koju Svan otkriva
u svojoj ljubavnici,
u svojoj ljubavnici,
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he adds to his "collection of instruments
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dodaje ličnoj "zbirci instrumenata
05:31
in his private torture chamber."
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u svojoj privatnoj sobi za mučenje."
05:35
Now Swann and Proust, we have to admit,
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Pa sad, moramo priznati
da su Svan i Prust
da su Svan i Prust
05:37
were notoriously jealous.
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izuzetno ljubomorni.
05:39
You know, Proust's boyfriends would have to leave
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Prustovi momci
bi morali da napuste
bi morali da napuste
05:41
the country if they wanted to break up with him.
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zemlju, ako bi hteli
da prekinu s njim.
da prekinu s njim.
05:43
But you don't have to be that jealous
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Ali ne morate biti
toliko ljubomorni
toliko ljubomorni
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to concede that it's hard work. Right?
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da priznate da je to teško.
Zar ne?
Zar ne?
05:49
Jealousy is exhausting.
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Ljubomora je iscrpljujuća.
05:51
It's a hungry emotion. It must be fed.
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To je gladna emocija.
Mora se hraniti.
Mora se hraniti.
05:54
And what does jealousy like?
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Šta voli ljubomora?
05:56
Jealousy likes information.
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Ona voli informacije,
05:59
Jealousy likes details.
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detalje,
06:02
Jealousy likes the vast quantities of shiny hair,
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ogromne količine sjajne kose,
06:05
the cute little pencil case.
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zgodnu malu peratonicu,
06:07
Jealousy likes photos.
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fotografije.
06:09
That's why Instagram is such a hit. (Laughter)
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Zato je Instagram takav hit.
(Smeh)
(Smeh)
06:12
Proust actually links the language of scholarship and jealousy.
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Prust povezuje
jezik učenosti i ljubomore.
jezik učenosti i ljubomore.
06:16
When Swann is in his jealous throes,
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Kad je Svan u svom
ljubomornom grču
ljubomornom grču
06:19
and suddenly he's listening at doorways
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i odjednom osluškuje na vratima,
06:21
and bribing his mistress' servants,
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podmićuje poslugu
svoje ljubavnice,
svoje ljubavnice,
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he defends these behaviors.
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on brani ta ponašanja.
06:24
He says, "You know, look, I know you think this is repugnant,
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Kaže: "Znam da mislite
da je to odvratno,
da je to odvratno,
06:27
but it is no different
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ali to se ne razlikuje
06:29
from interpreting an ancient text
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od tumačenja drevnog teksta
06:31
or looking at a monument."
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ili razgledanja spomenika."
06:33
He says, "They are scientific investigations
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Kaže: "To su naučna istraživanja
06:35
with real intellectual value."
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s pravom intelektualnom vrednošću."
06:38
Proust is trying to show us that jealousy
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Prust pokušava da nam pokaže
da se ljubomora
da se ljubomora
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feels intolerable and makes us look absurd,
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oseća nepodnošljivom
i da nas čini apsurdnim,
i da nas čini apsurdnim,
06:43
but it is, at its crux, a quest for knowledge,
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ali da je, na svom vrhuncu,
potraga za znanjem,
potraga za znanjem,
06:48
a quest for truth, painful truth,
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za istinom, bolnom istinom
06:51
and actually, where Proust is concerned,
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i zapravo, što se tiče Prusta,
06:53
the more painful the truth, the better.
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što je istina bolnija, to je bolje.
06:56
Grief, humiliation, loss:
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Žalost, poniženje, gubitak:
07:01
These were the avenues to wisdom for Proust.
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To su avenije do mudrosti za Prusta.
07:04
He says, "A woman whom we need,
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On kaže: "Žena koja
nam je potrebna,
nam je potrebna,
07:08
who makes us suffer, elicits from us
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ona koja nam stvara patnju,
izvlači iz nas
izvlači iz nas
07:11
a gamut of feelings far more profound and vital
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paletu osećanja
daleko dubljih i vitalnijih
daleko dubljih i vitalnijih
07:14
than a man of genius who interests us."
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od genija koji nas zanima."
07:18
Is he telling us to just go and find cruel women?
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Da li nam on to sugeriše da
krenemo u potragu za okrutnim ženama?
krenemo u potragu za okrutnim ženama?
07:21
No. I think he's trying to say
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Ne. Mislim da pokušava da kaže
07:24
that jealousy reveals us to ourselves.
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da nas ljubomora
otkriva samima sebi.
otkriva samima sebi.
07:27
And does any other emotion crack us open
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I da li nas bilo koja
druga emocija otvara
druga emocija otvara
07:30
in this particular way?
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na ovakav poseban način?
07:32
Does any other emotion reveal to us
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Da li nam bilo koja
druga emocija otkriva
druga emocija otkriva
07:34
our aggression and our hideous ambition
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našu agresivnost, odvratne ambicije
07:37
and our entitlement?
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i naša ovlašćenja?
07:40
Does any other emotion teach us to look
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Da li nas bilo koja druga emocija
uči da gledamo
uči da gledamo
07:42
with such peculiar intensity?
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s tako neobičnim intenzitetom?
07:46
Freud would write about this later.
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Frojd će pisati o ovom kasnije.
07:48
One day, Freud was visited
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Frojda je jednog dana posetio
07:50
by this very anxious young man who was consumed
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vrlo uznemiren mladić obuzet
07:52
with the thought of his wife cheating on him.
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mišlju da ga njegova supruga vara.
07:55
And Freud says, it's something strange about this guy,
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Frojd je rekao da ima
nešto čudno u tom čoveku,
nešto čudno u tom čoveku,
07:57
because he's not looking at what his wife is doing.
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jer on ne gleda na to
šta njegova supruga radi.
šta njegova supruga radi.
07:59
Because she's blameless; everybody knows it.
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Jer ona je bez mane, to svi znaju.
08:01
The poor creature is just
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Jadno stvorenje je samo
08:02
under suspicion for no cause.
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pod sumnjom bez uzroka.
08:04
But he's looking for things that his wife is doing
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Ali on je u potrazi za onim
što njegova supruga radi
što njegova supruga radi
08:07
without noticing, unintentional behaviors.
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neprimećujući,
nenamerna ponašanja.
nenamerna ponašanja.
08:10
Is she smiling too brightly here,
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Da li se ona previše smeška ovde
08:12
or did she accidentally brush up against a man there?
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ili se slučajno očeše
o onog čoveka tamo?
o onog čoveka tamo?
08:15
[Freud] says that the man is becoming
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Frojd kaže da je čovek postao
08:18
the custodian of his wife's unconscious.
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čuvar podsvesnog u svojoj supruzi.
08:22
The novel is very good on this point.
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Roman je vrlo dobar u tome.
08:24
The novel is very good at describing how jealousy
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Roman vrlo dobro opisuje
kako nas ljubomora
kako nas ljubomora
08:27
trains us to look with intensity but not accuracy.
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trenira da gledamo s intenzitetom,
ali ne i s preciznošću.
ali ne i s preciznošću.
08:31
In fact, the more intensely jealous we are,
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U stvari,
što smo više ljubomorni,
što smo više ljubomorni,
08:35
the more we become residents of fantasy.
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sve više postajemo
stanovnici fantazije.
stanovnici fantazije.
08:38
And this is why, I think, jealousy doesn't
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I mislim da nas zato ljubomora
08:41
just provoke us to do violent things
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ne samo provocira
da učinimo nasilne stvari
da učinimo nasilne stvari
08:43
or illegal things.
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ili ilegalne stvari.
08:45
Jealousy prompts us to behave in ways
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Ljubomora nas podstiče
da se ponašamo na načine
da se ponašamo na načine
08:48
that are wildly inventive.
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koji su mahnito inventivni.
08:50
Now I'm thinking of myself at eight, I concede,
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Priznajem da razmišljam o sebi
sa osam godina,
sa osam godina,
08:52
but I'm also thinking of this story I heard on the news.
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ali takođe razmišljam o ovoj priči
koju sam čula na vestima.
koju sam čula na vestima.
08:56
A 52-year-old Michigan woman was caught
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52-godišnja žena iz Mičigena
je uhvaćena
je uhvaćena
09:00
creating a fake Facebook account
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kada je napravila lažni
nalog na Fejsbuku
nalog na Fejsbuku
09:03
from which she sent vile, hideous messages
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sa koga je slala zlobne,
ružne poruke
ružne poruke
09:07
to herself for a year.
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sebi godinu dana.
09:11
For a year. A year.
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Godinu dana. Godinu.
09:13
And she was trying to frame
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Pokušala je da namesti
09:15
her ex-boyfriend's new girlfriend,
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novoj devojci svog bivšeg dečka
09:17
and I have to confess when I heard this,
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i moram priznati kad sam to čula,
09:21
I just reacted with admiration.
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da sam odreagovala divljenjem.
09:23
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
09:24
Because, I mean, let's be real.
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Jer, mislim, budimo realni.
09:27
What immense, if misplaced, creativity. Right?
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Kakva ogromna, mada zagubljena,
kreativnost. Zar ne?
kreativnost. Zar ne?
09:31
This is something from a novel.
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To je nešto iz romana.
09:34
This is something from a Patricia Highsmith novel.
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Iz romana Patricije Hajsmit.
09:37
Now Highsmith is a particular favorite of mine.
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Hajsmitova mi je posebno draga.
09:39
She is the very brilliant and bizarre woman of American letters.
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Sjajna i bizarna žena
američkog pera.
američkog pera.
09:43
She's the author of "Strangers on a Train"
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Autor je knjige
"Nepoznati iz Nord Ekspresa"
"Nepoznati iz Nord Ekspresa"
09:45
and "The Talented Mr. Ripley,"
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i "Talentovani gospodin Ripli",
09:47
books that are all about how jealousy,
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knjige koje su sve o tome
kako ljubomora,
kako ljubomora,
09:51
it muddles our minds,
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pomuti naše umove
09:52
and once we're in the sphere, in that realm of jealousy,
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i jednom kada smo u sferi,
u tom području ljubomore,
u tom području ljubomore,
09:55
the membrane between what is and what could be
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membrana između onoga što jeste
i onoga što bi moglo biti
i onoga što bi moglo biti
10:01
can be pierced in an instant.
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može biti probijena u trenu.
10:04
Take Tom Ripley, her most famous character.
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Uzmite Toma Riplija,
njen najpoznatiji lik.
njen najpoznatiji lik.
10:06
Now, Tom Ripley goes from wanting you
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Tom Ripli ide od toga da vas želi
10:09
or wanting what you have
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ili želi ono što imate
10:11
to being you and having what you once had,
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do toga da je on vi i da ima
ono što ste nekada imali,
ono što ste nekada imali,
10:14
and you're under the floorboards,
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a vi ste ispod podnih dasaka,
10:16
he's answering to your name,
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on se odaziva na vaše ime,
10:17
he's wearing your rings,
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nosi vaše prstenje,
10:19
emptying your bank account.
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prazni vaš bankovni račun.
10:21
That's one way to go.
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To je jedan način.
10:23
But what do we do? We can't go the Tom Ripley route.
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Ali, šta mi radimo?
Ne možemo ići putem Toma Riplija.
Ne možemo ići putem Toma Riplija.
10:27
I can't give the world D's,
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Ne mogu svetu da podelim dvojke,
10:29
as much as I would really like to, some days.
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koliko god to nekad zaista želela.
10:32
And it's a pity, because we live in envious times.
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I to je šteta,
jer živimo u vremenima zavisti.
jer živimo u vremenima zavisti.
10:35
We live in jealous times.
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Živimo u ljubomornim vremenima.
10:38
I mean, we're all good citizens of social media,
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Mislim, zar nismo
svi mi dobri građani
svi mi dobri građani
10:40
aren't we, where the currency is envy?
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društvenih medija,
gde je valuta zavist?
gde je valuta zavist?
10:43
Does the novel show us a way out? I'm not sure.
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Da li nam roman pokazuje izlaz?
Nisam sigurna.
Nisam sigurna.
10:48
So let's do what characters always do when they're not sure,
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Učinimo ono što likovi uvek rade
kada nisu sigurni,
kada nisu sigurni,
10:51
when they are in possession of a mystery.
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kada su u posedu misterije.
10:53
Let's go to 221B Baker Street
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Idemo u 221B Bejker ulicu
10:56
and ask for Sherlock Holmes.
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i potražimo Šerloka Holmsa.
10:58
When people think of Holmes,
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Kad ljudi misle o Holmsu,
11:00
they think of his nemesis being Professor Moriarty,
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oni pomisle da je njegov neprijatelj
profesor Moriarti,
profesor Moriarti,
11:03
right, this criminal mastermind.
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taj kriminalni genije.
11:06
But I've always preferred [Inspector] Lestrade,
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Ali uvek mi se više dopadao
inspektor Lestrejd,
inspektor Lestrejd,
11:08
who is the rat-faced head of Scotland Yard
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pacovskog lica,
koji je šef Skotland Jarda,
koji je šef Skotland Jarda,
11:11
who needs Holmes desperately,
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kome je Holms očajnički potreban,
11:13
needs Holmes' genius, but resents him.
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treba mu Holmsov genije,
ali ga prezire
ali ga prezire
11:15
Oh, it's so familiar to me.
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O, to mi je tako poznato.
11:17
So Lestrade needs his help, resents him,
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Dakle, Lestrejd treba njegovu pomoć,
prezire ga
prezire ga
11:21
and sort of seethes with bitterness over the course of the mysteries.
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i istovremeno kipi od gorčine
u toku trajanja misterija.
u toku trajanja misterija.
11:24
But as they work together, something starts to change,
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No, u toku zajedničkog rada,
nešto počinje da se menja
nešto počinje da se menja
11:28
and finally in "The Adventure of the Six Napoleons,"
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i konačno u "Šest Napoleona,"
11:31
once Holmes comes in, dazzles everybody with his solution,
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kada se Holms pojavi,
zaslepljuje svakog svojim rešenjem,
zaslepljuje svakog svojim rešenjem,
11:35
Lestrade turns to Holmes and he says,
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Lestrejd se okreće Holmsu i kaže:
11:38
"We're not jealous of you, Mr. Holmes.
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"Nismo ljubomorni na vas,
gospodine Holms.
gospodine Holms.
11:43
We're proud of you."
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Ponosni smo na vas".
11:46
And he says that there's not a man at Scotland Yard
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I on kaže da ne postoji čovek
u Skotland Jardu
u Skotland Jardu
11:48
who wouldn't want to shake Sherlock Holmes' hand.
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koji ne bi želeo da se rukuje
sa Šerlokom Holmsom.
sa Šerlokom Holmsom.
11:51
It's one of the few times we see Holmes moved
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To je jedan od retkih trenutaka
kada vidimo Holmsa ganutog
kada vidimo Holmsa ganutog
11:54
in the mysteries, and I find it very moving,
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u misterijama
i meni je jako dirljiva
i meni je jako dirljiva
11:56
this little scene, but it's also mysterious, right?
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ta kratka scena,
ali je takođe tajanstvena, zar ne?
ali je takođe tajanstvena, zar ne?
11:59
It seems to treat jealousy
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Izgleda da posmatra ljubomoru
12:01
as a problem of geometry, not emotion.
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kao problem geometrije, ne emocija.
12:04
You know, one minute Holmes is on the other side from Lestrade.
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Za minutu je Holmes
na drugoj strani od Lestrejda.
na drugoj strani od Lestrejda.
12:06
The next minute they're on the same side.
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Sledećeg minuta su na istoj strani.
12:08
Suddenly, Lestrade is letting himself
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Odjednom je Lestrejd dozvolio sebi
12:10
admire this mind that he's resented.
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divljenje ovom umu kome je zamerao.
12:13
Could it be so simple though?
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Može li to biti tako jednostavno?
12:15
What if jealousy really is a matter of geometry,
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Šta ako je ljubomora zaista
stvar geometrije,
stvar geometrije,
12:18
just a matter of where we allow ourselves to stand
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samo stvar toga gde sebi dopustimo
da se postavimo
da se postavimo
12:22
in relation to another?
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u odnosu na drugog?
12:24
Well, maybe then we wouldn't have to resent
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Onda možda ne bismo
morali da preziremo
morali da preziremo
12:26
somebody's excellence.
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nečiju izvrsnost.
12:28
We could align ourselves with it.
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Mogli bismo se uskladiti s njom.
12:31
But I like contingency plans.
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Ali sviđaju mi se planovi
s neočekivanim krajem.
s neočekivanim krajem.
12:33
So while we wait for that to happen,
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Pa dok čekamo da se to dogodi,
12:36
let us remember that we have fiction for consolation.
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setimo se
da imamo beletristiku za utehu.
da imamo beletristiku za utehu.
12:38
Fiction alone demystifies jealousy.
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Samo beletristika
demistifikuje ljubomoru,
demistifikuje ljubomoru,
12:41
Fiction alone domesticates it,
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pripitomljava je,
12:43
invites it to the table.
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poziva je za sto.
12:45
And look who it gathers:
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A pogledajte koga ona okuplja:
12:47
sweet Lestrade, terrifying Tom Ripley,
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slatkog Lestrejda,
zastrašujućeg Toma Riplija,
zastrašujućeg Toma Riplija,
12:51
crazy Swann, Marcel Proust himself.
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ludog Svana i samog Marsela Prusta.
12:55
We are in excellent company.
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U izvrsnom smo društvu.
12:57
Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
12:59
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
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Parul Sehgal - Literary criticParul Sehgal is an editor for "The New York Times Book Review."
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