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Parul Sehgal: An ode to envy
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Što je ljubomora? Što je uzrokuje i zašto je potajno volimo? Parul Sehgal tvrdi da nijedno istraživanje nije uspjelo dočarati "osamljenost, dugovječnost i strašnu zadovoljštinu koju pruža" - nijedno osim fikcije. U ovom elokventnom promišljanju Sehgal prebire po stranicama iz književnosti koje pokazuju kako se ljubomora ne razlikuje previše od potrage za znanjem.
Parul Sehgal - Literary critic
Parul Sehgal is an editor for "The New York Times Book Review." Full bio
Parul Sehgal is an editor for "The New York Times Book Review." Full bio
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00:13
So when I was eight years old,
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Kad sam imala osam godina,
00:15
a new girl came to join the class,
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u razred nam je došla nova djevojčica
00:17
and she was so impressive,
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koja je bila tako impresivna,
00:20
as the new girl always seems to be.
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kakve uvijek budu sve nove djevojčice.
00:23
She had vast quantities of very shiny hair
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Imala je slapove sjajne kose,
00:25
and a cute little pencil case,
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slatku pernicu,
00:28
super strong on state capitals,
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znala je sve glavne gradove država
00:32
just a great speller.
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i odlično je sricala.
00:34
And I just curdled with jealousy that year,
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Te me godine obuzimala ljubomora
00:39
until I hatched my devious plan.
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sve dok nisam smislila pakleni plan.
00:43
So one day I stayed a little late after school,
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Jednog sam dana malo ostala poslije škole,
00:47
a little too late, and I lurked in the girls' bathroom.
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malo previše skrivajući se
u toaletu za djevojčice.
u toaletu za djevojčice.
00:51
When the coast was clear, I emerged,
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Kad je zrak bio čist, izašla sam,
00:53
crept into the classroom,
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ušuljala se u učionicu
00:55
and took from my teacher's desk the grade book.
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i uzela imenik iz učiteljicinog stola.
00:59
And then I did it.
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I onda sam to učinila.
01:01
I fiddled with my rival's grades,
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Poigrala sam se
ocjenama svoje protivnice,
ocjenama svoje protivnice,
01:04
just a little, just demoted some of those A's.
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samo malo, samo snizila neke petice.
01:07
All of those A's. (Laughter)
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Sve petice. (Smijeh)
01:10
And I got ready to return the book to the drawer,
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Kad sam se spremala
vratiti imenik u ladicu,
vratiti imenik u ladicu,
01:13
when hang on, some of my other classmates
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sjetila sam se da druge kolege iz razreda
01:16
had appallingly good grades too.
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također imaju strašno dobre ocjene.
01:20
So, in a frenzy,
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Stoga sam u ludilu
01:22
I corrected everybody's marks,
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svima popravila ocjene,
01:24
not imaginatively.
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i to ne pretjerano maštovito.
01:26
I gave everybody a row of D's
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Svima sam dala red dvojki,
01:28
and I gave myself a row of A's,
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a sebi red petica.
01:31
just because I was there, you know, might as well.
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Znate, kad sam već tu...
01:34
And I am still baffled by my behavior.
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Još sam uvijek zapanjena
svojim ponašanjem.
svojim ponašanjem.
01:40
I don't understand where the idea came from.
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Ne razumijem odakle mi ta ideja.
01:42
I don't understand why I felt so great doing it.
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Ne razumijem zašto sam se osjećala
toliko odlično dok sam to radila.
toliko odlično dok sam to radila.
01:45
I felt great.
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Odlično sam se osjećala.
01:47
I don't understand why I was never caught.
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Ne razumijem zašto nikad nisam uhvaćena.
01:50
I mean, it should have been so blatantly obvious.
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Ta trebalo je biti očito.
01:51
I was never caught.
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Nikad nisam uhvaćena.
01:52
But most of all, I am baffled by,
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No najviše ne razumijem
01:55
why did it bother me so much
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zašto me toliko mučilo
01:56
that this little girl, this tiny little girl,
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što je ta majušna djevojčica
01:58
was so good at spelling?
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tako dobra u sricanju.
02:00
Jealousy baffles me.
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Ljubomora me zapanjuje.
02:02
It's so mysterious, and it's so pervasive.
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Toliko je misteriozna i toliko prodiruća.
02:05
We know babies suffer from jealousy.
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Znamo da bebe pate od ljubomore,
02:08
We know primates do. Bluebirds are actually very prone.
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kao i primati. I drozdovi
su joj iznimno skloni.
su joj iznimno skloni.
02:11
We know that jealousy is the number one cause
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Znamo da je ljubomora glavni razlog
02:15
of spousal murder in the United States.
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ubojstva u braku u SAD-u.
02:18
And yet, I have never read a study
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No nikad nisam naišla na istraživanje
02:21
that can parse to me its loneliness
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koje bi mi dočaralo osamljenost,
02:24
or its longevity or its grim thrill.
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dugovječnost ili strašnu
zadovoljštinu koju pruža.
zadovoljštinu koju pruža.
02:29
For that, we have to go to fiction,
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Za to se okrećemo fikciji
02:31
because the novel is the lab
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jer je roman laboratorij
02:34
that has studied jealousy
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koji proučava ljubomoru
02:35
in every possible configuration.
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u svakom mogućem obliku.
02:37
In fact, I don't know if it's an exaggeration to say
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Naime, ne znam je li pretjerivanje reći
02:41
that if we didn't have jealousy,
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da bez ljubomore
02:43
would we even have literature?
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ne bi bilo ni književnosti.
02:45
Well no faithless Helen, no "Odyssey."
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Bez nevjerne Helene
ne bi bilo ni "Odiseje".
ne bi bilo ni "Odiseje".
02:49
No jealous king, no "Arabian Nights."
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Bez ljubomornog kralja
ne bi bilo ni "1001 noći".
ne bi bilo ni "1001 noći".
02:52
No Shakespeare.
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Ni Shakespearea.
02:55
There goes high school reading lists,
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To je cijeli srednjoškolski popis lektire
02:57
because we're losing "Sound and the Fury,"
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jer gubimo i "Krik i bijes",
02:59
we're losing "Gatsby," "Sun Also Rises,"
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"Gatsbyja", "I sunce se rađa",
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we're losing "Madame Bovary," "Anna K."
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"Gospođu Bovary", "Anu Karenjinu".
03:05
No jealousy, no Proust. And now, I mean,
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Bez ljubomore ne bi bilo ni Prousta.
03:08
I know it's fashionable to say that Proust
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Znam da je sad moderno reći da Proust
03:09
has the answers to everything,
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ima odgovor na sve,
03:11
but in the case of jealousy,
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ali kad se radi o ljubomori,
03:14
he kind of does.
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zaista ima svaki odgovor.
03:16
This year is the centennial of his masterpiece, "In Search of Lost Time,"
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Ove je godine stogodišnjica remek-djela
"U potrazi za izgubljenim vremenom",
"U potrazi za izgubljenim vremenom",
03:20
and it's the most exhaustive study of sexual jealousy
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a to je najopširniji prikaz
seksualne ljubomore
seksualne ljubomore
03:24
and just regular competitiveness, my brand,
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i natjecateljskog duha, moje vrste,
03:27
that we can hope to have. (Laughter)
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kojemu se možemo nadati. (Smijeh)
03:29
And we think about Proust, we think
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Kad razmišljamo o Proustu, sjetimo se
03:32
about the sentimental bits, right?
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sentimentalnih dijelova,
zar ne?
zar ne?
03:33
We think about a little boy trying to get to sleep.
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Dječaka koji pokušava zaspati,
03:35
We think about a madeleine moistened in lavender tea.
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kolačića madeleine u lipovom čaju.
03:39
We forget how harsh his vision was.
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Zaboravljamo koliko mu je pogled bio grub.
03:41
We forget how pitiless he is.
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Zaboravljamo koliko je nemilosrdan.
03:43
I mean, these are books that Virginia Woolf said
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Ipak je te knjige Virginia Woolf
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were tough as cat gut.
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nazvala grubima kao mačje crijevo.
03:48
I don't know what cat gut is,
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Ne znam što je mačje crijevo,
03:50
but let's assume it's formidable.
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ali pretpostavimo da je zastrašujuće.
03:53
Let's look at why they go so well together,
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Razmotrimo zašto idu tako dobro zajedno -
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the novel and jealousy, jealousy and Proust.
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roman i ljubomora, ljubomora i Proust.
04:00
Is it something as obvious as that jealousy,
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Je li jednostavno stvar
u tome da je ljubomora,
u tome da je ljubomora,
04:03
which boils down into person, desire, impediment,
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koja se svodi na pojedinca,
čežnju i zapreku,
čežnju i zapreku,
04:06
is such a solid narrative foundation?
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tako snažan temelj priče?
04:11
I don't know. I think it cuts very close to the bone,
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Ne znam. Mislim da se s time
mnogi mogu poistovjetiti,
mnogi mogu poistovjetiti,
04:14
because let's think about what happens
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pa razmislimo što se događa
04:16
when we feel jealous.
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kad osjetimo ljubomoru.
04:17
When we feel jealous, we tell ourselves a story.
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Kad osjetimo ljubomoru,
ispričamo si priču.
ispričamo si priču.
04:21
We tell ourselves a story about other people's lives,
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Ispričamo si priču o tuđim životima
04:26
and these stories make us feel terrible
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i zbog njih se osjećamo užasno
04:28
because they're designed to make us feel terrible.
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jer su stvorene s tim ciljem.
04:31
As the teller of the tale and the audience,
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Kao pripovjedač i publika,
04:33
we know just what details to include,
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točno znamo koje detalje uključiti
04:35
to dig that knife in. Right?
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da taj nož dublje zareže. Zar ne?
04:39
Jealousy makes us all amateur novelists,
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Ljubomora nas sve pretvara
u romanopisce početnike,
u romanopisce početnike,
04:42
and this is something Proust understood.
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a to je nešto što je i Proust shvaćao.
04:44
In the first volume, Swann's Way,
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U "Putu k Swannu", prvom dijelu
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the series of books,
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ciklusa romana,
04:49
Swann, one of the main characters,
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Swann, jedan od glavnih likova,
04:51
is thinking very fondly of his mistress
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s naklonosti razmišlja o svojoj voljenoj
04:54
and how great she is in bed,
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i o tome koliko je dobra u krevetu
04:56
and suddenly, in the course of a few sentences,
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i iznenada, u roku od nekoliko rečenica,
04:59
and these are Proustian sentences,
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a to su prustovske rečenice,
05:01
so they're long as rivers,
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dakle dugačke poput rijeka,
05:02
but in the course of a few sentences,
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ali u roku od nekoliko rečenica,
05:04
he suddenly recoils and he realizes,
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iznenada ustukne i shvati:
05:07
"Hang on, everything I love about this woman,
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"Čekaj malo, sve to
što ja volim na ovoj ženi,
što ja volim na ovoj ženi,
05:10
somebody else would love about this woman.
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može voljeti i netko drugi.
05:14
Everything that she does that gives me pleasure
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Sve što čini, a što mi pruža zadovoljstvo,
05:17
could be giving somebody else pleasure,
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može ga pružati i nekome drugome,
05:19
maybe right about now."
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možda upravo sad."
05:21
And this is the story he starts to tell himself,
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Tu si priču počinje pričati
05:24
and from then on, Proust writes that
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i otada Proust piše
05:26
every fresh charm Swann detects in his mistress,
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kako svaku novu draž koju Swann
primijeti na svojoj voljenoj
primijeti na svojoj voljenoj
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he adds to his "collection of instruments
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dodaje "kolekciji sprava
05:31
in his private torture chamber."
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vlastite sobe za mučenje."
05:35
Now Swann and Proust, we have to admit,
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Moramo priznati da su Swann I Proust
05:37
were notoriously jealous.
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bili nepopravljivo ljubomorni.
05:39
You know, Proust's boyfriends would have to leave
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Proustovi su dečki morali napustiti
05:41
the country if they wanted to break up with him.
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državu ako su htjeli prekinuti s njim.
05:43
But you don't have to be that jealous
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No ne morate biti toliko ljubomorni
05:46
to concede that it's hard work. Right?
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da biste priznali da s njom
imate pune ruke posla, zar ne?
imate pune ruke posla, zar ne?
05:49
Jealousy is exhausting.
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Ljubomora iscrpljuje.
05:51
It's a hungry emotion. It must be fed.
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Gladna je to emocija koju valja nahraniti.
05:54
And what does jealousy like?
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A što ljubomora voli?
05:56
Jealousy likes information.
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Ljubomora voli informacije.
05:59
Jealousy likes details.
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Ljubomora voli detalje.
06:02
Jealousy likes the vast quantities of shiny hair,
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Ljubomora voli slapove sjajne kose
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the cute little pencil case.
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i slatke pernice.
06:07
Jealousy likes photos.
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Ljubomora voli fotografije.
06:09
That's why Instagram is such a hit. (Laughter)
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Zato je Instagram
toliko popularan. (Smijeh)
toliko popularan. (Smijeh)
06:12
Proust actually links the language of scholarship and jealousy.
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Proust povezuje učeni jezik i ljubomoru.
06:16
When Swann is in his jealous throes,
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Kad je Swann na mukama ljubomore
06:19
and suddenly he's listening at doorways
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i prisluškuje na vratima
06:21
and bribing his mistress' servants,
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i podmićuje sluge svoje ljubavnice,
06:23
he defends these behaviors.
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opravdava ta ponašanja.
06:24
He says, "You know, look, I know you think this is repugnant,
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Kaže: "Slušaj, znam da misliš
da je ovo odvratno,
da je ovo odvratno,
06:27
but it is no different
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ali nimalo se ne razlikuje
06:29
from interpreting an ancient text
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od interpretiranja antičkih tekstova
06:31
or looking at a monument."
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ili promatranja spomenika."
06:33
He says, "They are scientific investigations
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Kaže: "To su znanstvena istraživanja
06:35
with real intellectual value."
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sa stvarnom intelektualnom vrijednosti."
06:38
Proust is trying to show us that jealousy
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Proust nam pokušava
pokazati da je ljubomora
pokazati da je ljubomora
06:40
feels intolerable and makes us look absurd,
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nepodnošljiva i zbog nje
djelujemo apsurdno,
djelujemo apsurdno,
06:43
but it is, at its crux, a quest for knowledge,
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ali ona je u svojoj srži
potraga za znanjem,
potraga za znanjem,
06:48
a quest for truth, painful truth,
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potraga za istinom, bolnom istinom,
06:51
and actually, where Proust is concerned,
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a što se Prousta tiče,
06:53
the more painful the truth, the better.
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što je istina bolnija, to bolje.
06:56
Grief, humiliation, loss:
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Tuga, posramljenost, gubitak:
07:01
These were the avenues to wisdom for Proust.
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to su za Prousta bili putevi do mudrosti.
07:04
He says, "A woman whom we need,
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Kaže: "Žena koju trebamo,
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who makes us suffer, elicits from us
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zbog koje patimo iz nas izvlači
07:11
a gamut of feelings far more profound and vital
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more osjećaja dubljih i važnijih
07:14
than a man of genius who interests us."
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od genija koji nas zanima."
07:18
Is he telling us to just go and find cruel women?
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Govori li nam da odemo
pronaći okrutne žene?
pronaći okrutne žene?
07:21
No. I think he's trying to say
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Ne. Mislim da nam pokušava reći
07:24
that jealousy reveals us to ourselves.
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da nas ljubomora otkriva nama samima.
07:27
And does any other emotion crack us open
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Slama li nas ijedna druga emocija
07:30
in this particular way?
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na takav način?
07:32
Does any other emotion reveal to us
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Otkriva li nam ijedna druga emocija
07:34
our aggression and our hideous ambition
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našu agresivnost i odvratnu ambiciju
07:37
and our entitlement?
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i naša prava?
07:40
Does any other emotion teach us to look
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Uči li nas ijedna druga
emocija promatranju
emocija promatranju
07:42
with such peculiar intensity?
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tolikim intenzitetom?
07:46
Freud would write about this later.
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Freud je kasnije pisao o tome.
07:48
One day, Freud was visited
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Jednog dana Freuda je posjetio
07:50
by this very anxious young man who was consumed
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strašno nervozan muškarac
kojega je izjedala
kojega je izjedala
07:52
with the thought of his wife cheating on him.
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sumnja u supruginu vjernost.
07:55
And Freud says, it's something strange about this guy,
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Freud kaže da ima nešto
čudno u tom čovjeku
čudno u tom čovjeku
07:57
because he's not looking at what his wife is doing.
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jer ne promatra suprugine postupke.
07:59
Because she's blameless; everybody knows it.
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Ona je nedužna, svi to znaju.
08:01
The poor creature is just
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U tu se jadnicu jednostavno
08:02
under suspicion for no cause.
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bezrazložno sumnja.
08:04
But he's looking for things that his wife is doing
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Ali on promatra njezina
08:07
without noticing, unintentional behaviors.
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nenamjerna ponašanja.
08:10
Is she smiling too brightly here,
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Smije li se presrdačno
08:12
or did she accidentally brush up against a man there?
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ili je li se slučajno
očešala o onog čovjeka?
očešala o onog čovjeka?
08:15
[Freud] says that the man is becoming
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Freud tvrdi da taj muškarac postaje
08:18
the custodian of his wife's unconscious.
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nadzornik suprugine podsvijesti.
08:22
The novel is very good on this point.
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Po tom pitanju roman je dobar.
08:24
The novel is very good at describing how jealousy
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Roman jako dobro opisuje
kako nas ljubomora
kako nas ljubomora
08:27
trains us to look with intensity but not accuracy.
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izvježbava za intenzivno,
ali ne i točno promatranje.
ali ne i točno promatranje.
08:31
In fact, the more intensely jealous we are,
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Štoviše, što smo ljubomorniji,
08:35
the more we become residents of fantasy.
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to smo skloniji fantaziji.
08:38
And this is why, I think, jealousy doesn't
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Zato smatram da nas ljubomora
08:41
just provoke us to do violent things
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ne potiče samo na nasilne
08:43
or illegal things.
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ili protuzakonite činove
08:45
Jealousy prompts us to behave in ways
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već i na
08:48
that are wildly inventive.
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strašno maštovite postupke.
08:50
Now I'm thinking of myself at eight, I concede,
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Priznajem, razmišljam
o osmogodišnjoj sebi,
o osmogodišnjoj sebi,
08:52
but I'm also thinking of this story I heard on the news.
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ali i o priči koju sam čula na vijestima.
08:56
A 52-year-old Michigan woman was caught
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U Michiganu je uhvaćena 52-godišnja žena
09:00
creating a fake Facebook account
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koja je napravila
lažan profil na Facebooku
lažan profil na Facebooku
09:03
from which she sent vile, hideous messages
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s kojeg si je slala
podle, odvratne poruke
podle, odvratne poruke
09:07
to herself for a year.
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godinu dana.
09:11
For a year. A year.
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Godinu dana. Godinu.
09:13
And she was trying to frame
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A pokušavala je to smjestiti
09:15
her ex-boyfriend's new girlfriend,
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novoj djevojci svog bivšeg dečka.
09:17
and I have to confess when I heard this,
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Moram priznati, kad sam ovo tek čula,
09:21
I just reacted with admiration.
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osjetila sam divljenje.
09:23
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
09:24
Because, I mean, let's be real.
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Zato što, budimo realni,
09:27
What immense, if misplaced, creativity. Right?
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kolika je to količina pogrešno
usmjerene kreativnosti, zar ne?
usmjerene kreativnosti, zar ne?
09:31
This is something from a novel.
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Kao iz romana,
09:34
This is something from a Patricia Highsmith novel.
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kao iz romana Patricije Highsmith.
09:37
Now Highsmith is a particular favorite of mine.
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Highsmith je moja omiljena spisateljica.
09:39
She is the very brilliant and bizarre woman of American letters.
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Ona je briljantna i bizarna
američka spisateljica.
američka spisateljica.
09:43
She's the author of "Strangers on a Train"
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Autorica je romana "Stranci u vlaku"
09:45
and "The Talented Mr. Ripley,"
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i "Talentirani gospodin Ripley".
09:47
books that are all about how jealousy,
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Obje knjige pokazuju kako nam ljubomora
09:51
it muddles our minds,
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muti razum
09:52
and once we're in the sphere, in that realm of jealousy,
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i jednom kad smo u toj sferi,
u carstvu ljubomore,
u carstvu ljubomore,
09:55
the membrane between what is and what could be
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membrana između onoga što jest
i onoga što bi moglo biti
i onoga što bi moglo biti
10:01
can be pierced in an instant.
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u sekundi može biti probijena.
10:04
Take Tom Ripley, her most famous character.
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Tom Ripley, njezin najpoznatiji lik,
10:06
Now, Tom Ripley goes from wanting you
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polazi od želje za vama
10:09
or wanting what you have
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ili željom da ima ono što vi imate
10:11
to being you and having what you once had,
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do preuzimanja vašeg identiteta
i svega što ste nekoć imali.
i svega što ste nekoć imali.
10:14
and you're under the floorboards,
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Vi ste ispod podnih dasaka,
10:16
he's answering to your name,
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on se odaziva na vaše ime,
10:17
he's wearing your rings,
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nosi vaše prstenje,
10:19
emptying your bank account.
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prazni vaše bankovne račune.
10:21
That's one way to go.
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To je jedan od pristupa.
10:23
But what do we do? We can't go the Tom Ripley route.
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Ali što mi radimo? Ne možemo
ići Ripleyevim putem.
ići Ripleyevim putem.
10:27
I can't give the world D's,
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Ne mogu cijelom svijetu dati dvojke,
10:29
as much as I would really like to, some days.
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ma koliko ja to nekada željela.
10:32
And it's a pity, because we live in envious times.
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Šteta je jer živimo u vremenu zavisti.
10:35
We live in jealous times.
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Živimo u vremenu ljubomore.
10:38
I mean, we're all good citizens of social media,
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Svi smo dobri građani društvenih medija
10:40
aren't we, where the currency is envy?
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u kojima je valuta zavist, zar ne?
10:43
Does the novel show us a way out? I'm not sure.
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Ukazuje li nam ovaj roman
na izlaz? Nisam sigurna.
na izlaz? Nisam sigurna.
10:48
So let's do what characters always do when they're not sure,
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Učinimo ono što likovi
uvijek rade kada nisu sigurni,
uvijek rade kada nisu sigurni,
10:51
when they are in possession of a mystery.
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kada ih muči misterij.
10:53
Let's go to 221B Baker Street
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Pođimo do Ulice Baker na adresu 221B
10:56
and ask for Sherlock Holmes.
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i tražimo Sherlocka Holmesa.
10:58
When people think of Holmes,
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Kad ljudi razmišljaju o Holmesu,
11:00
they think of his nemesis being Professor Moriarty,
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njegovim najvećim neprijateljem
smatraju profesora Moriartyja,
smatraju profesora Moriartyja,
11:03
right, this criminal mastermind.
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vrhunskog kriminalca.
11:06
But I've always preferred [Inspector] Lestrade,
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Ali meni je uvijek bio draži
inspektor Lestrade,
inspektor Lestrade,
11:08
who is the rat-faced head of Scotland Yard
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čovjek nalik štakoru koji je
voditelj Scotland Yarda
voditelj Scotland Yarda
11:11
who needs Holmes desperately,
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i koji očajnički treba Holmesa,
11:13
needs Holmes' genius, but resents him.
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treba njegov genijalni um, ali zamjera mu.
11:15
Oh, it's so familiar to me.
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To mi zvuči poznato.
11:17
So Lestrade needs his help, resents him,
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Dakle, Lestrade treba
njegovu pomoć, zamjera mu
njegovu pomoć, zamjera mu
11:21
and sort of seethes with bitterness over the course of the mysteries.
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i kipi od ljutnje tijekom romana.
11:24
But as they work together, something starts to change,
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No, kako zajedno rade,
nešto se počinje mijenjati
nešto se počinje mijenjati
11:28
and finally in "The Adventure of the Six Napoleons,"
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i konačno u "Šest Napoleona"
11:31
once Holmes comes in, dazzles everybody with his solution,
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kad Holmes stigne
i sve oduševi svojim rješenjem,
i sve oduševi svojim rješenjem,
11:35
Lestrade turns to Holmes and he says,
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Lestrade se okrene Holmesu i kaže:
11:38
"We're not jealous of you, Mr. Holmes.
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"Nismo ljubomorni
na vas, gospodine Holmes.
na vas, gospodine Holmes.
11:43
We're proud of you."
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Ponosni smo na vas."
11:46
And he says that there's not a man at Scotland Yard
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I kaže da nema čovjeka
na Scotland Yardu
na Scotland Yardu
11:48
who wouldn't want to shake Sherlock Holmes' hand.
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koji Sherlocku ne bi htio pružiti ruku.
11:51
It's one of the few times we see Holmes moved
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To je rijedak slučaj
u kojem je Holmes ganut.
u kojem je Holmes ganut.
11:54
in the mysteries, and I find it very moving,
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U knjizi mi je to jako dirljivo,
11:56
this little scene, but it's also mysterious, right?
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cijela ta scena, ali je
i misteriozna, zar ne?
i misteriozna, zar ne?
11:59
It seems to treat jealousy
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Kao da se prema ljubomori odnosi
12:01
as a problem of geometry, not emotion.
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kao s geometrijskim
problemom, a ne emocionalnim.
problemom, a ne emocionalnim.
12:04
You know, one minute Holmes is on the other side from Lestrade.
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U jednom je trenutku Holmes
suprotstavljen Lestradeu.
suprotstavljen Lestradeu.
12:06
The next minute they're on the same side.
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U drugom su trenutku na istoj strani.
12:08
Suddenly, Lestrade is letting himself
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Iznenada si Lestrade dozvoljava
12:10
admire this mind that he's resented.
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diviti se umu kojem je zamjerao.
12:13
Could it be so simple though?
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Je li to tako jednostavno?
12:15
What if jealousy really is a matter of geometry,
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Što ako je ljubomora
uistinu pitanje geometrije,
uistinu pitanje geometrije,
12:18
just a matter of where we allow ourselves to stand
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samo pitanje toga na kojoj si
strani dozvoljavamo stajati
strani dozvoljavamo stajati
12:22
in relation to another?
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u odnosu na drugu osobu?
12:24
Well, maybe then we wouldn't have to resent
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Tada možda ne bismo morali zamjerati
12:26
somebody's excellence.
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tuđoj izvrsnosti.
12:28
We could align ourselves with it.
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Mogli bi se uskladiti s njom.
12:31
But I like contingency plans.
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Ali ja volim planove
nepredviđenih mogućnosti.
nepredviđenih mogućnosti.
12:33
So while we wait for that to happen,
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Dok njih čekamo,
12:36
let us remember that we have fiction for consolation.
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zapamtimo da nam
za utjehu preostaje fikcija.
za utjehu preostaje fikcija.
12:38
Fiction alone demystifies jealousy.
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Sama fikcija demistificira ljubomoru.
12:41
Fiction alone domesticates it,
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Ona je podomaćuje,
12:43
invites it to the table.
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poziva je za stol.
12:45
And look who it gathers:
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A pogledajte tko se sve skupio za njim:
12:47
sweet Lestrade, terrifying Tom Ripley,
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dragi Lestrade, zastrašujući Tom Ripley,
12:51
crazy Swann, Marcel Proust himself.
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ludi Swann, Marcel Proust glavom i bradom.
12:55
We are in excellent company.
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U odličnom smo društvu.
12:57
Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
12:59
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
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