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J.J. Abrams: The mystery box
Misteriozna kutija Dž.Dž.Abramsa
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Dž.Dž. Abrams istražuje poreklo svoje ljubavi prema nevidljivim misterijama - strast koja je jasno vidljiva u njegovim filmovima i televizijskim serijama, koji uključuju "Cloverfield", "Lost" i "Alias" - sve do njenih magičnih početaka.
J.J. Abrams - Filmmaker
Writer, director and producer J.J. Abrams makes smart, addictive dramas like TV's Lost, and films like Cloverfield and the new Star Trek. Full bio
Writer, director and producer J.J. Abrams makes smart, addictive dramas like TV's Lost, and films like Cloverfield and the new Star Trek. Full bio
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00:12
I wanna start today -- here's my thing. Hold on. There I go.
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Danas želim da počnem - evo ga.
Sačekajte. Evo ga.
Sačekajte. Evo ga.
00:18
Hey. I wanna start today -- talk about the structure of a polypeptide. (Laughter)
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Danas želim da počnem...
da govorim o strukturi polipeptida. (Smeh)
da govorim o strukturi polipeptida. (Smeh)
00:24
I get a lot of people asking me, in terms of "Lost," you know,
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Mnogo ljudi me pita,
u vezi sa serijom ''Lost'':
u vezi sa serijom ''Lost'':
00:28
"What the hell's that island?" You know,
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''Zaboga, šta je to ostrvo?''
00:30
it's usually followed by,
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To je obično praćeno sa:
00:32
"No, seriously, what the hell is that island?"
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''Ne, ozbiljno, šta je zaboga to ostrvo?''
00:34
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
00:35
Why so many mysteries? What is it about mystery that I seem to be drawn to?
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Zašto toliko misterija? Šta je to u vezi sa misterijom
što me privlači?
što me privlači?
00:39
And I was thinking about this, what to talk about at TED.
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I razmišljao sam o čemu da pričam na TED-u.
00:42
When I talked to the kind rep from TED, and I said,
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Kada sam razgovarao sa ljubaznim
predstavnikom TED-a i pitao:
predstavnikom TED-a i pitao:
00:46
"Listen, you know, what should I talk about?"
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''Slušajte, o čemu bi trebalo da pričam?''
00:48
He said, "Don't worry about it. Just be profound."
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On je rekao: ''Nemojte brinuti o tome.
Samo neka bude duboko.''
Samo neka bude duboko.''
00:50
(Laughter) And I took enormous comfort in that.
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(Smeh)
I to me je neizmerno utešilo.
I to me je neizmerno utešilo.
00:54
So thank you, if you're here.
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Prema tome, hvala Vam, ako ste ovde.
00:56
I was trying to think, what do I talk about? It's a good question.
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Razmišljao sam o čemu ću pričati.
To je dobro pitanje.
To je dobro pitanje.
00:58
Why do I do so much stuff that involves mystery? And I started trying to figure it out.
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Zašto radim toliko stvari koje uključuju misteriju?
I počeo sam pokušavati da to otkrijem.
I počeo sam pokušavati da to otkrijem.
01:02
And I started thinking about why do I do any of what I do,
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Počeo sam da razmišljam
zašto radim išta od onoga što radim
zašto radim išta od onoga što radim
01:04
and I started thinking about my grandfather.
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i počeo sam da razmišljam o svom dedi.
01:06
I loved my grandfather. Harry Kelvin was his name,
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Voleo sam svog dedu.
Njegovo ime je bilo Heri Kelvin,
Njegovo ime je bilo Heri Kelvin,
01:12
my mother's father. He died in 1986. He was an amazing guy.
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otac moje majke.
Umro je 1986. Bio je sjajan tip.
Umro je 1986. Bio je sjajan tip.
01:15
And one of the reasons he was amazing:
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I jedan od razloga što je bio sjajan,
01:17
After World War II he began an electronics company.
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je to što je posle II svetskog rata
osnovao elektronsku kompaniju.
osnovao elektronsku kompaniju.
01:19
He started selling surplus parts, kits, to schools and stuff.
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Počeo je da prodaje rezervne delove,
opremu školama i sl.
opremu školama i sl.
01:24
So he had this incredible curiosity. As a kid I saw him
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Imao je neku neverovatnu radoznalost.
Kad sam bio dete
Kad sam bio dete
01:27
come over to me with radios and telephones and all sorts of things.
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dolazio bi kod mene sa radijima
i telefonima i raznoraznim stvarima.
i telefonima i raznoraznim stvarima.
01:30
And he'd open them up, he'd unscrew them, and reveal the inner workings --
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I otvorio bi ih, odšrafio i otkrivao
kako funkcionišu iznutra...
kako funkcionišu iznutra...
01:33
which many of us, I'm sure, take for granted.
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što mnogi od nas, siguran sam,
uzimaju zdravo za gotovo.
uzimaju zdravo za gotovo.
01:36
But it's an amazing gift to give a kid.
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Ali to je sjajan poklon koji možete dati detetu.
01:38
To open up this thing and show how it works and why it works and what it is.
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Da otvorite neku stvar i pokažete
kako radi i zašto radi i šta je.
kako radi i zašto radi i šta je.
01:43
He was the ultimate deconstructer, in many ways.
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On je bio vrhunski dekonstruktivista, na mnogo načina.
01:47
And my grandfather was a kind of guy who would not only take things apart,
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I moj deda je bio ne samo neko ko bi rastavljao stvari,
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but he got me interested in all sorts of different odd crafts,
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već i neko ko me je zainteresovao
za razne vrste različitih, čudnih veština,
za razne vrste različitih, čudnih veština,
01:55
like, you know, printing, like the letter press. I'm obsessed with printing.
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kao što je, znate, ofset štampa.
Ja sam opsednut štampom.
Ja sam opsednut štampom.
02:00
I'm obsessed with silk screening and bookbinding and box making.
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Opsednut sam sitoštampom i knjigovezništvom
i pravljenjem kutija.
i pravljenjem kutija.
02:03
When I was a kid, I was always, like, taking apart boxes and stuff.
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Kad sam bio mali, uvek sam
rastavljao kutije i druge stvari.
rastavljao kutije i druge stvari.
02:07
And last night in the hotel, I took apart the Kleenex box.
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I sinoć u hotelu, rastavio sam
kutiju za maramice.
kutiju za maramice.
02:10
I was just looking at it. And I'm telling you ... (Laughter) It's a beautiful thing.
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Samo sam je gledao. I kažem vam...
(Smeh) To je prelepa stvar.
(Smeh) To je prelepa stvar.
02:15
I swear to God. I mean, when you look at the box, and you sort of see how it works.
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Kunem se. Mislim, kad pogledate kutiju
i na neki način vidite kako funkcioniše.
i na neki način vidite kako funkcioniše.
02:18
Rives is here, and I met him years ago at a book fair; he does pop-up books.
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Rivs je ovde, upoznao sam ga pre nekoliko godina
na sajmu knjiga. On pravi 'pop-up' knjige.
na sajmu knjiga. On pravi 'pop-up' knjige.
02:23
And I'm obsessed with, like, engineering of paper.
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I opsednut sam konstrukcijama od papira.
02:25
But like, the scoring of it, the printing of it, where the thing gets glued,
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Ali bušenjem, štampanjem, gde se lepi,
02:28
you know, the registration marks for the ink. I just love boxes.
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znate, oznakama za mastilo.
Jednostavno volim kutije.
Jednostavno volim kutije.
02:31
My grandfather was sort of the guy who, you know,
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Moj deda je bio tip čoveka koji me je, znate,
02:33
kind of got me into all sorts of these things.
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na neki način, zainteresovao za te stvari.
02:35
He would also supply me with tools.
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On me je takođe i snabdevao alatkama.
02:37
He was this amazing encourager -- this patron, sort of, to make stuff.
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Bio je neverovatan podstrekivač
- neka vrsta mecene.
- neka vrsta mecene.
02:42
And he got me a Super 8 camera when I was 10 years old.
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On mi je dao "Super 8" kameru
kada sam imao 10 godina.
kada sam imao 10 godina.
02:46
And in 1976, that was sort of an anomaly,
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A 1976. to nije bilo uobičajeno,
02:49
to be a 10-year-old kid that had access to a camera.
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da budeš 10-godišnjak koji ima pristup kameri.
02:52
And you know, he was so generous; I couldn't believe it.
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I znate, bio je tako darežljiv;
nisam mogao da verujem.
nisam mogao da verujem.
02:55
He wasn't doing it entirely without some manipulation.
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Nije to radio u potpunosti bez ikakve manipulacije.
02:58
I mean, I would call him, and I'd be like,
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Mislim, zvao bih ga i rekao bih:
03:00
"Listen, Grandpa, I really need this camera.
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''Slušaj, deda, stvarno mi treba ova kamera.
03:03
You don't understand. This is, like, you know, I want to make movies.
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Ne razumeš. Znaš, hoću da pravim filmove.
03:06
I'll get invited to TED one day. This is like -- " (Laughter)
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Zvaće me na TED jednog dana. Ovo je...''
(Smeh)
(Smeh)
03:10
And you know, and my grandmother was the greatest.
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I znate, moja baka je bila najbolja.
03:12
Because she'd be like, you know -- she'd get on the phone.
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Zato što bi ona uzela slušalicu.
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She'd be like, "Harry, it's better than the drugs. He should be doing -- "
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Rekla bi: ''Heri, bolje to nego droga.
Trebalo bi da radi...''
Trebalo bi da radi...''
03:18
She was fantastic. (Laughter)
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Bila je fantastična.
(Smeh)
(Smeh)
03:20
So I found myself getting this stuff,
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Tako da sam dobijao sve te stvari
03:23
thanks to her assist, and suddenly, you know,
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uz njenu pomoć i odjednom, razumete,
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I had a synthesizer when I was 14 years old -- this kind of stuff.
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imao sam sintisajzer
kada mi je bilo 14 godina... takve stvari.
kada mi je bilo 14 godina... takve stvari.
03:29
And it let me make things, which, to me, was sort of the dream.
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I to mi je omogućavalo da stvaram,
što je na neki način bio moj san.
što je na neki način bio moj san.
03:33
He sort of humored my obsession to other things too, like magic.
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On je na neki način udovoljavao i mojoj opsesiji
drugim stvarima, kao što je magija.
drugim stvarima, kao što je magija.
03:37
The thing is, we'd go to this magic store in New York City called Lou Tannen's Magic.
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Otišli bismo u prodavnicu za mađioničare u Njujorku
koja se zvala Lu Tanenova Magija.
koja se zvala Lu Tanenova Magija.
03:41
It was this great magic store. It was a crappy little building in Midtown,
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To je bila sjajna mađioničarska prodavnica.
Bila je to jadna mala zgrada u Midtaunu,
Bila je to jadna mala zgrada u Midtaunu,
03:44
but you'd be in the elevator, the elevator would open --
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ali bili biste u liftu i on bi se otvorio -
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there'd be this little, small magic store. You'd be in the magic store.
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i tu bi bila mala prodavnica magije.
Bili biste u prodavnici magije.
Bili biste u prodavnici magije.
03:49
And it was just, it was a magical place.
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I to je jednostavno bilo magično mesto.
03:51
So I got all these sort of magic tricks. Oh, here. I'll show you.
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Tako da sam dobio razne magične trikove.
Evo, pokazaću vam.
Evo, pokazaću vam.
03:53
This is the kind of thing. So it would be like, you know. Right?
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Ovako nešto. Tako da bi bilo... razumete?
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Which is good, but now I can't move.
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Što je sjajno, ali sada ne smem
da se pomeram.
da se pomeram.
03:59
Now, I have to do this, the rest of the thing, like this.
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Sad moram da stojim ovako,
do kraja, ovako.
do kraja, ovako.
04:01
I'm like, "Oh, wow. Look at my computer over there!" (Laughter)
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Treba da budem u fazonu:
''O, hej. Vidi moj računar!'' (Smeh)
''O, hej. Vidi moj računar!'' (Smeh)
04:04
Anyway, so one of the things that I bought at the magic store was this:
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BIlo kako bilo, jedna od stvari koje sam kupio
u prodavnici magije je ovo:
u prodavnici magije je ovo:
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Tannen's Mystery Magic Box.
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Tenenova misteriozna magična kutija.
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The premise behind the mystery magic box was the following:
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Suština misteriozne magične kutije je sledeća:
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15 dollars buys you 50 dollars worth of magic.
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za 15 dolara dobijete magiju
u vrednosti od 50 dolara.
u vrednosti od 50 dolara.
04:19
Which is a savings. (Laughter)
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Što je ušteda.
(Smeh)
(Smeh)
04:22
Now, I bought this decades ago and I'm not kidding.
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E sad, ja sam kupio ovo
pre više desetina godina, ne šalim se.
pre više desetina godina, ne šalim se.
04:24
If you look at this, you'll see it's never been opened.
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Ako pogledate ovo, videćete
da nikad nije bila otvorena.
da nikad nije bila otvorena.
04:27
But I've had this forever.
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A imam je oduvek.
04:30
Now, I was looking at this, it was in my office, as it always is, on the shelf,
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I gledao sam je, bila je u mojoj kancelariji,
kao i uvek na polici,
kao i uvek na polici,
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and I was thinking, why have I not opened this?
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i razmišljao, zašto je nikada nisam otvorio?
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And why have I kept it? Because I'm not a pack rat. I don't keep everything
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I zašto sam je zadržao?
Jer ja nisam jedan od onih koji sve čuvaju,
Jer ja nisam jedan od onih koji sve čuvaju,
04:41
but for some reason I haven't opened this box.
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ali iz nekog razloga,
ovu kutiju nisam otvorio.
ovu kutiju nisam otvorio.
04:43
And I felt like there was a key to this, somehow,
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I osećao sam da je ključ,
na neki način,
na neki način,
04:45
in talking about something at TED that I haven't discussed before,
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u tome da govorim na TED-u o nečemu
o čemu nisam već govorio
o čemu nisam već govorio
04:49
and bored people elsewhere.
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i dosađivao ljudima na drugim mestima.
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So I thought, maybe there's something with this. I started thinking about it.
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Počeo sam da razmišljam
da možda ima nešto u tome.
da možda ima nešto u tome.
04:53
And there was this giant question mark. I love the design, for what it's worth,
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A tu je i ovaj ogromni znak pitanja.
Ako išta znači, mnogo mi se dopada dizajn
Ako išta znači, mnogo mi se dopada dizajn
04:56
of this thing. And I started thinking, why haven't I opened it?
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ove stvarčice. I počeo sam da razmišljam,
zašto je nisam otvorio?
zašto je nisam otvorio?
04:59
And I realized that I haven't opened it because it represents something important
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Shvatio sam da je nisam otvorio
jer predstavlja nešto važno
jer predstavlja nešto važno
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-- to me. It represents my grandfather.
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za mene. Predstavlja mog dedu.
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Am I allowed to cry at TED? Because -- no, I'm not going to cry. But -- (Laughter)
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Smem li da plačem na TED-u?
Jer... ne, neću plakati. Ali - (Smeh)
Jer... ne, neću plakati. Ali - (Smeh)
05:17
-- the thing is, that it represents infinite possibility.
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- stvar je u tome da ona predstavlja
bezgranične mogućnosti.
bezgranične mogućnosti.
05:21
It represents hope. It represents potential.
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Predstavlja nadu.
Predstavlja potencijal.
Predstavlja potencijal.
05:23
And what I love about this box,
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I ono što volim kod ove kutije
05:26
and what I realize I sort of do in whatever it is that I do,
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i ono što shvatam da radim u svemu što radim,
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is I find myself drawn to infinite possibility, that sense of potential.
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je da sam uvek privučen neograničenim mogućnostima,
tom osećaju potencijala.
tom osećaju potencijala.
05:36
And I realize that mystery is the catalyst for imagination.
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I shvatam da je misterija katalizator za maštu.
05:39
Now, it's not the most ground-breaking idea,
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Sad, nije to najrevolucionarnija ideja,
05:42
but when I started to think that maybe there are times when mystery
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ali kad sam počeo da razmišljam o tome
kako možda postoje situacije kada je misterija
kako možda postoje situacije kada je misterija
05:44
is more important than knowledge, I started getting interested in this.
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važnija od znanja, počeo sam
da se interesujem za ovo.
da se interesujem za ovo.
05:48
And so I started thinking about "Lost," and the stuff that we do,
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I onda sam počeo da razmišljam
o seriji ''Lost'' i o stvarima koje radimo
o seriji ''Lost'' i o stvarima koje radimo
05:50
and I realized, oh my God, mystery boxes are everywhere in what I do!
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i shvatio sam: "O Bože, misteriozne kutije
su i svemu što radim!
su i svemu što radim!
05:54
In how -- in the creation of "Lost," Damon Lindelof and I,
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Prilikom stvaranja serije ''Lost'',
Dejmon Lindelof,
Dejmon Lindelof,
05:57
who created the show with me, we were basically tasked with creating this series
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koji je stvorio seriju sa mnom, i ja
smo dobili zadatak da napravimo seriju
smo dobili zadatak da napravimo seriju
06:02
that we had very little time to do. We had 11 and a half weeks
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za veoma kratko vreme. Imali smo 11 ipo nedelja
da je napišemo, podelimo uloge,
da je napišemo, podelimo uloge,
06:05
to write it, cast it, crew it, shoot it, cut it, post it, turn in a two-hour pilot.
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okupimo ekipu, snimimo je, montiramo,
završimo i pretvorimo u dvočasnovni pilot.
završimo i pretvorimo u dvočasnovni pilot.
06:10
So it was not a lot of time. And that sense of possibility -- what could this thing be?
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Tako da nije bilo puno vremena.
I taj osećaj mogućnosti - šta će ovo biti?
I taj osećaj mogućnosti - šta će ovo biti?
06:14
There was no time to develop it.
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Nije bilo vremena da se razvije.
06:15
I'm sure you're all familiar with those people
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Siguran sam da svi poznajete ljude
06:17
who tell you what you can't do and what you should change.
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koji vam govore šta ne možete da uradite
i šta treba da izmenite.
i šta treba da izmenite.
06:19
And there was no time for that, which is kind of amazing.
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Ali nije bilo vremena za to,
što je u neku ruku sjajno.
što je u neku ruku sjajno.
06:22
And so we did this show, and for those of you who, you know, who haven't seen it,
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Tako da smo napravili ovu seriju
i za one od vas koji je nisu gledali
i za one od vas koji je nisu gledali
06:25
or don't know it, I can show you this one little clip from the pilot,
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ili ne znaju ništa o njoj, mogu vam pokazati
jedan mali insert iz pilot epizode,
jedan mali insert iz pilot epizode,
06:29
just to show you some stuff that we did.
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samo da bih vam pokazao
neke stvari koje smo uradili.
neke stvari koje smo uradili.
06:40
Claire: Help! Please help me! Help me! Help me!
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Kler: Upomoć! Molim vas pomozite mi!
Upomoć! Upomoć!
Upomoć! Upomoć!
06:48
Jack: Get him out of here! Get him away from the engine! Get him out of here!
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Džek: Sklonite ga odavde! Sklonite ga od motora!
Sklonite ga odavde!
Sklonite ga odavde!
06:59
C: I'm having contractions!
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K: Imam kontrakcije!
07:02
J: How many months pregnant are you?
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J: U kom ste mesecu trudnoće?
07:03
C: I'm only eight months.
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K: Tek u osmom.
07:05
J: And how far apart are they coming?
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Dž: Koliko su česte?
07:06
C: I don't know. I think it just happened.
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K: Ne znam. Mislim da su tek počele.
07:10
Man: Hey! Hey! Hey, get away from --
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Čovek: Hej! Hej! Hej, sklonite se od -
07:23
JJA: Now, 10 years ago, if we wanted to do that, we'd have to kill a stuntman.
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DžDžA: Da smo pre 10 godina hteli to da uradimo
morali bismo da ubijemo kaskadera.
morali bismo da ubijemo kaskadera.
07:27
We'd actually -- (Laughter)
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Morali bismo - (Smeh)
07:32
it would be harder. It would take -- Take 2 would be a bitch.
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bilo bi teže. Trebalo bi...
drugo ponavljanje scene bi bilo zeznuto.
drugo ponavljanje scene bi bilo zeznuto.
07:36
So the amazing thing was, we were able to do this thing.
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Tako da je sjajna stvar bila
to što smo mogli da uradimo ovo.
to što smo mogli da uradimo ovo.
07:40
And part of that was the amazing availability of technology,
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A deo toga je sjajna tehnologija
koja nam je bila na raspolaganju
koja nam je bila na raspolaganju
07:43
knowing we could do anything. I mean, we could never have done that.
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i svest da možemo da uradimo bilo šta.
Mislim, mogli smo da to nikada ne uradimo.
Mislim, mogli smo da to nikada ne uradimo.
07:46
We might have been able to write it; we wouldn't have been able to depict it
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Možda smo mogli da napišemo,
ali ne bismo mogli da prikažemo kao što jesmo.
ali ne bismo mogli da prikažemo kao što jesmo.
07:48
like we did. And so part of the amazing thing for me is in the creative process,
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Tako da je deo te neverovatne stvari
za mene u kreativnom procesu,
za mene u kreativnom procesu,
07:52
technology is, like, mind-blowingly inspiring to me.
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tehnologija je neviđeno inspirativna za mene.
07:55
I realize that that blank page is a magic box, you know?
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Shvatam da je ta prazna stranica magična kutija.
Razumete?
Razumete?
07:59
It needs to be filled with something fantastic.
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Treba da bude popunjena nečim fantastičnim.
08:01
I used to have the "Ordinary People" script that I'd flip through.
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Nekada sam imao scenario
''Obični ljudi'' koji bih prelistavao.
''Obični ljudi'' koji bih prelistavao.
08:03
The romance of the script was amazing to me; it would inspire me.
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Romantika scenarija mi je bila neverovatna,
inspirisala me je.
inspirisala me je.
08:06
I wanted to try and fill pages with the same kind of
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Hteo sam da pokušam
da popunim stranice istom vrstom
da popunim stranice istom vrstom
08:09
spirit and thought and emotion that that script did.
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duha i misli i emocije
koje je taj scenario imao.
koje je taj scenario imao.
08:13
You know, I love Apple computers. I'm obsessed.
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Tako da - znate, volim Apple računare.
Opsednut sam.
Opsednut sam.
08:16
So the Apple computer -- like those -- the PowerBook -- this computer, right,
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Apple računar - kao ovaj -
"Power Book" - ovaj računar
"Power Book" - ovaj računar
08:19
it challenges me. It basically says,
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mene izaziva.
On u suštini pita:
On u suštini pita:
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what are you going to write worthy of me? (Laughter)
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"Šta ćeš napisati,
a što je vredno mene?" (Smeh)
a što je vredno mene?" (Smeh)
08:24
I guess I feel this -- I'm compelled.
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Ja to osećam - primoran sam.
08:27
And I often am like, you know, dude, today I'm out. I got nothing. You know? (Laughter)
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I često sam u fazonu: "Znaš brate, danas nemam ništa.
"Razumete? (Smeh)
"Razumete? (Smeh)
08:31
So there's that. In terms of the content of it, you look at stories, you think,
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Tako da ima i toga. U smislu sadržaja,
pogledate priče, pomislite
pogledate priče, pomislite
08:33
well, what are stories but mystery boxes?
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šta su priče, ako ne misteriozne kutije?
08:36
There's a fundamental question -- in TV, the first act is called the teaser.
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Postoji osnovno pitanje - u televizijskoj emisiji,
prvi deo se zove najava.
prvi deo se zove najava.
08:39
It's literally the teaser. It's the big question.
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I to je bukvalno najava.
To je veliko pitanje.
To je veliko pitanje.
08:41
So you're drawn into it. Then of course,
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Tako da vas privlači.
Onda naravno,
Onda naravno,
08:43
there's another question. And it goes on and on.
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tu je i drugo pitanje.
I tako dalje i tako dalje.
I tako dalje i tako dalje.
08:45
Look at "Star Wars." You got the droids; they meet the mysterious woman.
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Pogledajte, na primer ''Ratove zvezda''.
Imate droide, oni upoznaju misterioznu ženu.
Imate droide, oni upoznaju misterioznu ženu.
08:47
Who's that? We don't know. Mystery box! You know?
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Ko je to? Ne znamo.
Misteriozna kutija! Razumete?
Misteriozna kutija! Razumete?
08:49
Then you meet Luke Skywalker. He gets the Droid, you see the holographic image.
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Onda upoznate Luka Skajvokera.
On dobije droida, vidi hologramsku sliku.
On dobije droida, vidi hologramsku sliku.
08:52
You learn, oh, it's a message, you know.
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Shvatite: "O, to je poruka".
08:54
She wants to, you know, find Obi Wan Kenobi. He's her only hope.
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Ona hoće da nađe Obija Van Kenobija.
On joj je jedina nada.
On joj je jedina nada.
08:57
But who the hell's Obi Wan Kenobi? Mystery box!
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Ali ko je zaboga Obi Van Kenobi?
Misteriozna kutija!
Misteriozna kutija!
08:58
So then you go and he meets Ben Kenobi. Ben Kenobi is Obi Wan Kenobi.
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Onda idu dalje i on upozna Ben Kenobija.
Ben Kenobi je Obi Van Kenobi.
Ben Kenobi je Obi Van Kenobi.
09:01
Holy shit! You know -- so it keeps us --
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Koje sranje! Znate, to vas drži -
09:03
(Laughter) -- have you guys not seen that?
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(Smeh) - zar niste to gledali?
09:06
(Laughter) It's huge! Anyway --
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(Smeh)
Neviđeno je! Uglavnom -
Neviđeno je! Uglavnom -
09:08
So there's this thing with mystery boxes that I started feeling compelled.
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Ima nečega u tim misterioznim kutijama
što je počelo da me privlači.
što je počelo da me privlači.
09:14
Then there's the thing of mystery in terms of imagination --
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Onda je tu misterija u smislu mašte -
09:18
the withholding of information. You know,
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uskraćivanje informacija.
09:20
doing that intentionally is much more engaging.
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Raditi to namerno ima mnogo veći efekat.
09:24
Whether it's like the shark in "Jaws"
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Bilo da je to kao ajkula u ''Ajkuli''
09:26
-- if Spielberg's mechanical shark, Bruce, had worked,
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- da je Spilbergova mehanička ajkula,
Brus, radila,
Brus, radila,
09:28
it would not be remotely as scary; you would have seen it too much.
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ne bi bilo ni približno toliko strašno;
videli biste previše.
videli biste previše.
09:31
In "Alien", they never really showed the alien: terrifying!
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U ''Osmom putniku'' nikad nisu zaista
prikazali vanzemaljca: zastrašujuće!
prikazali vanzemaljca: zastrašujuće!
09:34
Even in a movie, like a romantic comedy, "The Graduate,"
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Čak i u filmu koji je romantična komedija,
''Diplomac'',
''Diplomac'',
09:37
they're having that date, remember?
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oni su na sastanku.
Sećate se?
Sećate se?
09:39
And they're in the car, and it's loud, and so they put the top up.
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U kolima su i buka je,
tako da podignu krov.
tako da podignu krov.
09:42
They're in there -- you don't hear anything they're saying! You can't hear a word!
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Oni su unutra - ne čujete ništa što govore!
Ne čujete ni reč!
Ne čujete ni reč!
09:45
But it's the most romantic date ever. And you love it because you don't hear it.
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Ali to je najromantičniji sastanak.
I dopada vam se zato što ga ne čujete.
I dopada vam se zato što ga ne čujete.
09:49
So to me, there's that.
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Po mom mišljenju - to je to.
09:51
And then, finally, there's this idea -- stretching the sort of paradigm a little bit --
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I onda, konačno, tu je ideja
- ako malo proširimo paradigmu -
- ako malo proširimo paradigmu -
09:55
but the idea of the mystery box.
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ideja misteriozne kutije.
09:57
Meaning, what you think you're getting, then what you're really getting.
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Znači, prvo, šta mislite da ćete dobiti,
a onda šta zapravo dobijete.
a onda šta zapravo dobijete.
10:00
And it's true in so many movies and stories.
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Toga ima u mnogo filmova i priča.
10:03
And when you look at "E.T.," for example -- "E.T." is this, you know,
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Kada pogledate "E.T.", na primer
- "E.T." je, znate,
- "E.T." je, znate,
10:05
unbelievable movie about what? It's about an alien who meets a kid, right?
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neverovatan film o čemu?
O vanzemaljcu koji upozna dečaka. Je l' tako?
O vanzemaljcu koji upozna dečaka. Je l' tako?
10:08
Well, it's not. "E.T." is about divorce. "E.T." is about a heartbroken,
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E, pa nije. "E.T." je o razvodu braka.
"E.T." je film o skrhanoj porodici,
"E.T." je film o skrhanoj porodici,
10:11
divorce-crippled family, and ultimately, this kid who can't find his way.
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potresenoj razvodom i konačno,
o dečaku koji ne može da pronađe svoj put.
o dečaku koji ne može da pronađe svoj put.
10:15
"Die Hard," right? Crazy, great, fun, action-adventure movie in a building.
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"Umri muški"? Ludačka, sjana, zabavna akciona avantura koja se odvija u zgradi.
10:19
It's about a guy who's on the verge of divorce.
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To je priča o tipu koji je pred razvodom.
10:21
He's showing up to L.A., tail between his legs.
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Pojavljuje se u Los Anđelesu,
sa repom među nogama.
sa repom među nogama.
10:23
There are great scenes -- maybe not the most amazing dramatic
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Ima sjajnih scena -
možda ne najsjajnijih dramskih
možda ne najsjajnijih dramskih
10:26
scenes in the history of time, but pretty great scenes.
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scena, ali prilično sjajnih scena.
10:29
There's a half an hour of investment in character before you get to the stuff
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Imate polučasovno građenje lika
pre nego što dođete do dela
pre nego što dođete do dela
10:32
that you're, you know, expecting.
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koji očekujete.
10:34
When you look at a movie like "Jaws,"
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Kada pogledate film kao što je "Ajkula",
10:35
the scene that you expect -- we have the screen?
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scena koju očekujete - imamo li insert?
10:38
These are the kind of, you know, scenes that you remember and expect from "Jaws."
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Ovo su scene kojih se sećate
i koje očekujete od "Ajkule".
i koje očekujete od "Ajkule".
10:42
And she's being eaten; there's a shark.
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I ona je pojedena; evo ajkule.
10:47
The thing about "Jaws" is, it's really about a guy
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"Ajkula" je u stvari o tipu koji na neki način
10:49
who is sort of dealing with his place in the world -- with his masculinity,
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traži svoje mesto pod suncem
- koji se bavi svojom muževnošću,
- koji se bavi svojom muževnošću,
10:52
with his family, how he's going to, you know, make it work in this new town.
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svojom porodicom,
kako će da se snađe u novom gradu.
kako će da se snađe u novom gradu.
10:56
This is one of my favorite scenes ever,
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Ovo je jedna od mojih omiljenih scena
svih vremena,
svih vremena,
10:58
and this is a scene that you wouldn't necessarily think of when you think of "Jaws."
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a to nije scena koja bi vam prvo pala na pamet
kada pomislite na "Ajkulu".
kada pomislite na "Ajkulu".
11:01
But it's an amazing scene.
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Ali je sjajna scena.
11:58
Father: C'mere. Give us a kiss.
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Otac: Dođi ovamo. Poljubi me.
12:05
Son: Why?
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Sin: Zašto?
12:09
Father: 'Cause I need it.
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Otac: Zato što mi je potrebno.
12:11
JJA: C'mon. "Why? 'Cause I need it?" Best scene ever, right?
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DžDžA: Ma daj. "Zašto?" "Zato što mi je potrebno?"
Najbolja scena, zar ne?
Najbolja scena, zar ne?
12:14
Come on! So you think of "Jaws" --
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Hajde! Pomislite na "Ajkulu"...
12:17
so that's the kind of stuff that, like, you know, the investment of character,
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to su te stvari, znate, građenje lika,
12:21
which is the stuff that really is inside the box, you know?
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ono što je zaista u kutiji.
Razumete?
Razumete?
12:24
It's why when people do sequels, or rip off movies, you know, of a genre,
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Zbog toga ljudi kad rade nastavke
ili pokradu druge filmove istog žanra,
ili pokradu druge filmove istog žanra,
12:27
they're ripping off the wrong thing.
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kradu pogrešne stvari.
12:29
You're not supposed to rip off the shark or the monster.
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Ne treba da ukradete ajkulu ili čudovište.
12:31
You gotta rip off -- you know, if you rip something off -- rip off the character.
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Treba da ukradete - ako već kradete - lik.
Ukradite ono
Ukradite ono
12:35
Rip off the stuff that matters. I mean, look inside yourself and figure out what is inside you.
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što je bitno. Hoću da kažem, zagledajte se u sebe
i otkrijte šta je unutra.
i otkrijte šta je unutra.
12:38
Because ultimately, you know, the mystery box is all of us. So there's that.
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Jer na kraju krajeva, svi smo mi misteriozne kutije.
To je to što se toga tiče.
To je to što se toga tiče.
12:43
Then the distribution. What's a bigger mystery box than a movie theater?
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Onda je tu distribucija.
Šta je veća misteriozna kutija od bioskopa?
Šta je veća misteriozna kutija od bioskopa?
12:46
You know? You go to the theater, you're just so excited to see anything.
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Razumete? Odete u bioskop i tako ste uzbuđeni
da vidite bilo šta.
da vidite bilo šta.
12:48
The moment the lights go down is often the best part, you know?
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Trenutak kada se svetla gase
je često najbolji trenutak, znate?
je često najbolji trenutak, znate?
12:51
And you're full of that amazing --
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I puni ste tog neverovatnog -
12:54
that feeling of excited anticipation.
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tog osećaja uzbudljivog iščekivanja.
12:57
And often, the movie's, like, there and it's going, and then something happens
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I često film teče i onda se nešto dogodi
12:59
and you go, "Oh--" and then something else, and you're, "Mmm ..."
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i vi reagujete: ''O -'' i onda nešto drugo,
a vi kažete: ''Mmm''.
a vi kažete: ''Mmm''.
13:01
Now, when it's a great movie, you're along for the ride
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E, kad je reč o sjajnom filmu,
vi se prepuštate vožnji
vi se prepuštate vožnji
13:03
'cause you're willing to give yourself to it.
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jer ste voljni da se prepustite.
13:05
So to me, whether it's that, whether it's a TV, an iPod, computer, cell phone --
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Tako da je meni svejedno da li je to televizija,
iPod, računar, mobilni telefon.
iPod, računar, mobilni telefon.
13:10
it's funny, I'm an -- as I said, Apple fanatic -- and one day, about a year or so ago,
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Smešno je, ali ja sam, kao što sam pomenuo,
Apple fanatik i pre oko godinu dana
Apple fanatik i pre oko godinu dana
13:14
I was signing on online in the morning to watch Steve Jobs' keynote,
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prijavljivao sam se preko interneta
da gledam prezentaciju Stiva Džobsa
da gledam prezentaciju Stiva Džobsa
13:18
'cause I always do. And he came on, he was presenting the video iPod,
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jer to uvek radim. On je nastupio,
prezentovao je video iPod,
prezentovao je video iPod,
13:23
and what was on the enormous iPod behind him?
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i šta je bilo na ogromnom iPodu iza njega?
13:25
"Lost"! I had no idea! And I realized, holy shit, it'd come full circle.
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''Lost''! Nisam imao pojma!
I shvatio sam, čoveče, da je ciklus zaokružen.
I shvatio sam, čoveče, da je ciklus zaokružen.
13:30
Like, the inspiration I get from the technology is now using the stuff that I do,
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Inspiracija koju dobijem iz tehnologije
sada koristi stvari koje ja stvaram,
sada koristi stvari koje ja stvaram,
13:32
inspired by it, to sell technology. I mean, it's nuts! (Laughter)
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inspirisan njome, da prodaje tehnologiju.
Mislim, to je ludilo! (Smeh)
Mislim, to je ludilo! (Smeh)
13:36
I was gonna show you a couple of other things I'm gonna skip through.
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Hteo sam da vam pokažem još par drugih stvari,
pa ću ih na brzinu proći.
pa ću ih na brzinu proći.
13:38
I just want to show you one other thing that has nothing to do with anything.
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Hoću da vam pokažem jednu drugu stvar
koja ni sa čim nema veze.
koja ni sa čim nema veze.
13:41
This is something online; I don't know if you've seen it before.
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Ovo je nešto sa interneta;
ne znam da li ste ga videli ranije.
ne znam da li ste ga videli ranije.
13:43
Six years ago they did this. This is an online thing done by guys
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Ovo je napravljeno pre šest godina,
to je snimak koji su napravili ljudi
to je snimak koji su napravili ljudi
13:47
who had some visual effects experience. But the point was,
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sa određenim iskustvom u specijalnim efektima.
Ali poenta je
Ali poenta je
13:49
that they were doing things that were using these mystery boxes that they had --
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da su pravili stvari koristeći
te misteriozne kutije koje su imali -
te misteriozne kutije koje su imali -
13:53
everyone has now.
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koje sada svako ima.
13:54
What I've realized is what my grandfather did for me when I was a kid,
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Shvatio sam da ono što je moj deda
meni omogućio kada sam bio mali,
meni omogućio kada sam bio mali,
13:58
everyone has access to now.
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sada ima svako.
14:00
You don't need to have my grandfather, though you wished you had.
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Ne morate imati mog dedu,
mada biste želeli da ga imate.
mada biste želeli da ga imate.
14:02
But I have to tell you -- this is a guy doing stuff on a Quadra 950 computer
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Moram da vam kažem - ovo je jedan tip uradio
na "Quadra 950" rečunaru
na "Quadra 950" rečunaru
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-- the resolution's a little bit low --
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- rezolucija je malo niska -
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using Infinity software they stopped making 15 years ago.
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koristeći "Infinity" softver
koji se ne proizvodi već 15 godina.
koji se ne proizvodi već 15 godina.
14:10
He's doing stuff that looks as amazing as stuff I've seen released from Hollywood.
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On pravi stvari koje izgledaju sjajno,
kao stvari koje su proizvedene u Holivudu.
kao stvari koje su proizvedene u Holivudu.
14:16
The most incredible sort of mystery, I think, is now the question of what comes next.
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Najveća misterija je, po mom mišljenju,
pitanje šta sledi.
pitanje šta sledi.
14:22
Because it is now democratized. So now, the creation of media is -- it's everywhere.
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Jer je sada sve demokratizovano.
Sada je medijsko stvaralaštvo svuda.
Sada je medijsko stvaralaštvo svuda.
14:26
The stuff that I was lucky and begging for to get when I was a kid is now ubiquitous.
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One stvari koje sam ja imao sreće da dobijem kao mali
su sada uobičajene.
su sada uobičajene.
14:31
And so, there's an amazing sense of opportunity out there.
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I tako, postoje sjajne prilike.
14:34
And when I think of the filmmakers who exist out there now who would have
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I kada pomislim na stvaraoce filmova
koji postoje tamo negde koji bi bili
koji postoje tamo negde koji bi bili
14:39
been silenced, you know -- who have been silenced in the past --
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ućutkani, razumete - koji su ranije bili ućutkani -
14:42
it's a very exciting thing.
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to je veoma uzbudljivo.
14:43
I used to say in classes and lectures and stuff,
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Imao sam običaj da kažem na časovima
i predavanjima i slično,
i predavanjima i slično,
14:46
to someone who wants to write, "Go! Write! Do your thing." It's free,
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nekome ko želi da piše: "Idite! Pišite!
Radite ono što želite." Slobodno je,
Radite ono što želite." Slobodno je,
14:49
you know, you don't need permission to go write. But now I can say,
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razumete, ne treba vam dozvola da idete da pišete.
Ali sada mogu da kažem,
Ali sada mogu da kažem,
14:51
"Go make your movie!" There's nothing stopping you
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"Idite, napravite svoj film!"
Ništa vas ne sprečava
Ništa vas ne sprečava
14:53
from going out there and getting the technology.
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da odete i nabavite potrebnu tehnologiju.
14:55
You can lease, rent, buy stuff off the shelf
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Možete da iznajmite, kupite stvari
14:58
that is either as good, or just as good, as the stuff that's being used by the, you know,
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koje su ili isto toliko dobre ili skoro toliko dobre,
kao stvari koje koriste,
kao stvari koje koriste,
15:04
quote unquote "legit people."
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pod znacima navoda
''pravi profesionalci''.
''pravi profesionalci''.
15:06
No community is best served when only the elite have control.
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Nijedno društvo ne dostiže svoj maksimum
kada samo elita ima kontrolu.
kada samo elita ima kontrolu.
15:10
And I feel like this is an amazing opportunity to see what else is out there.
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I osećam da je ovo sjajna prilika
da se vidi šta još postoji.
da se vidi šta još postoji.
15:13
When I did "Mission: Impossible III," we had amazing visual effects stuff.
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Kada sam radio ''Nemoguću misiju III'',
imali smo sjajne vizuelne efekte.
imali smo sjajne vizuelne efekte.
15:16
ILM did the effects; it was incredible.
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ILM su radili efekte;
bilo je neverovatno.
bilo je neverovatno.
15:18
And sort of like my dream to be involved.
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I za mene je učestvovanje
bilo ispunjenje sna.
bilo ispunjenje sna.
15:20
And there are a couple of sequences in the movie,
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I ima nekoliko sekvenci u filmu,
15:23
like these couple of moments I'll show you.
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kao ovih nekoliko inserata
koje ću vam pokazati.
koje ću vam pokazati.
15:31
There's that.
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Ima ovo.
15:52
Okay, obviously I have an obsession with big crazy explosions.
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U redu, ja sam očigledno opsednut
ludačkim eksplozijama.
ludačkim eksplozijama.
15:55
So my favorite visual effect in the movie is the one I'm about to show you.
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Ali moj omiljeni vizuelni efekat u filmu
je jedan koji ću vam sada pokazati.
je jedan koji ću vam sada pokazati.
15:59
And it's a scene in which Tom's character wakes up. He's drowsy. He's crazy
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I to je scena u kojoj se Tomov lik budi.
Vrti mu se. Poludeo je
Vrti mu se. Poludeo je
16:01
-- out of it. And the guy wakes up,
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- van sebe. I tip se probudi
16:03
and he shoves this gun in his nose and shoots this little capsule into his brain
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i on mu gurne pištolj u nozdrvu
i ispali malu kapsulu u njegov mozak
i ispali malu kapsulu u njegov mozak
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that he's going to use later to kill him, as bad guys do.
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koju će kasnije iskoristiti da ga ubije,
kao što to negativci obično rade.
kao što to negativci obično rade.
16:16
Bad Guy: Good morning.
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Negativac: Dobro jutro.
16:20
JJA: OK, now. When we shot that scene, we were there doing it,
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DžDžA: U redu. Kad smo snimali ovu scenu,
bili smo tamo i
bili smo tamo i
16:22
the actor who had the gun, an English actor, Eddie Marsan -- sweetheart, great guy
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glumac koji je držao pištolj, engleski glumac,
Edi Marsan - dobrica, divan lik
Edi Marsan - dobrica, divan lik
16:26
-- he kept taking the gun and putting it into Tom's nose, and it was hurting Tom's nose.
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- je uporno uzimao pištolj i gurao ga Tomu u nos,
počevši da ga povređuje.
počevši da ga povređuje.
16:31
And I learned this very early on in my career: Don't hurt Tom's nose. (Laughter)
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Naučio sam veoma rano u svojoj karijeri:
nemoj povrediti Tomov nos. (Smeh)
nemoj povrediti Tomov nos. (Smeh)
16:36
There are three things you don't want to do. Number two is: Don't hurt Tom's nose.
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Ima tri stvari koje nikako ne želite da uradite.
Na drugom mestu je: nemoj povrediti Tomov nos.
Na drugom mestu je: nemoj povrediti Tomov nos.
16:39
So Eddie has this gun -- and he's the greatest guy -- he's
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Tako da je Edi držao taj pištolj
- a on je divan tip - on je
- a on je divan tip - on je
16:41
this really sweet English guy. He's like, "Sorry, I don't want to hurt you."
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veoma učtiv Englez. Bio je u fazonu:
''Izvini, ne želim da te povredim.''
''Izvini, ne želim da te povredim.''
16:44
I'm like -- you gotta -- we have to make this look good.
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Ja sam bio u fazonu - moramo da napravimo
da ovo dobro izgleda.
da ovo dobro izgleda.
16:46
And I realized that we had to do something 'cause it wasn't working just as it was.
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I shvatio sam da moramo nešto da preduzmemo
jer ovako nije funkcionisalo.
jer ovako nije funkcionisalo.
16:49
And I literally, like, thought back to what I would have done using
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I bukvalno sam pomislio šta bih uradio nekada
kada sam koristio
kada sam koristio
16:53
the Super 8 camera that my grandfather got me sitting in that room,
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"Super 8" kameru koju mi je deda dao,
sedeći u toj sobi,
sedeći u toj sobi,
16:55
and I realized that hand didn't have to be Eddie Marsan's. It could be Tom's.
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i shvatio sam da ruka nije morala da bude Edi Marsanova. Mogla je da bude Tomova.
17:00
And Tom would know just how hard to push the gun. He wouldn't hurt himself.
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I Tom bi znao koliko jako može da gurne pištolj,
a da se ne povredi.
a da se ne povredi.
17:03
So we took his hand and we painted it to look a little bit more like Eddie's.
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Tako da smo uzeli njegovu ruku
i našminkali je da više liči na Edijevu.
i našminkali je da više liči na Edijevu.
17:06
We put it in Eddie's sleeve,
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Stavili smo je u Edijev rukav,
17:09
and so the hand that you see -- I'll show you again,
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tako da ruka koju vidite - pokazaću vam ponovo,
17:11
that's not Eddie's hand, that's Tom's.
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nije Edijeva, već Tomova.
17:12
So Tom is playing two roles. (Laughter)
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Tako da Tom igra dve uloge.
(Smeh)
(Smeh)
17:15
And he didn't ask for any more money.
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I nije tražio više para.
17:17
So here, here. Watch it again.
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Evo, evo. Pogledajte ponovo.
17:20
There he is. He's waking up. He's drowsy, been through a lot.
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Evo ga. Budi se.
Vrti mu se, prošao je sve i svašta.
Vrti mu se, prošao je sve i svašta.
17:29
Tom's hand. Tom's hand. Tom's hand. (Laughter) Anyway.
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Tomova ruka. Tomova ruka.
Tomova ruka. (Smeh)
Tomova ruka. (Smeh)
17:32
So.
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Tako.
17:34
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
17:37
Thanks.
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Hvala.
17:40
So you don't need the greatest technology to do things that can work in movies.
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Tako da vam ne treba najbolja tehnologija
da biste uradili stvari koje funkcionišu na filmu.
da biste uradili stvari koje funkcionišu na filmu.
17:45
And the mystery box, in honor of my grandfather, stays closed.
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I misteriozna kutija, u čast moga dede,
ostaje zatvorena.
ostaje zatvorena.
17:48
Thank you. (Applause)
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Hvala vam. (Aplauz)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
J.J. Abrams - FilmmakerWriter, director and producer J.J. Abrams makes smart, addictive dramas like TV's Lost, and films like Cloverfield and the new Star Trek.
Why you should listen
As the Emmy-winning creator of the smart, addictive TV dramas Lost, Alias and Felicity, J.J. Abrams' name looms large on the small screen. As the writer/director behind the blockbuster explode-a-thon Mission: Impossible III, Cloverfield and the new Star Trek movie, these days Abrams also rules the big screen -- bringing his eye for telling detail and emotional connection to larger-than-life stories.
Abrams' enthusiasm -- for the construction of Kleenex boxes, for the quiet moments between shark attacks in Jaws, for today's filmmaking technologies, and above all for the potent mystery of an unopened package -- is incredibly infectious.
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