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J.J. Abrams: The mystery box
J.J. Abrams的神祕魔法盒
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J.J. Abrams回溯對神祕事物喜愛的原點, - 從他所製作的電影與電視影集包括科洛弗檔案, Lost檔案與雙面女間諜皆能發現他對神祕未知的熱愛。
J.J. Abrams - Filmmaker
Writer, director and producer J.J. Abrams makes smart, addictive dramas like TV's Lost, and films like Cloverfield and the new Star Trek. Full bio
Writer, director and producer J.J. Abrams makes smart, addictive dramas like TV's Lost, and films like Cloverfield and the new Star Trek. Full bio
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I wanna start today -- here's my thing. Hold on. There I go.
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今天我要談談這個, 等等. 好了
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Hey. I wanna start today -- talk about the structure of a polypeptide. (Laughter)
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今天我要來談談『多肽』的分子結構
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I get a lot of people asking me, in terms of "Lost," you know,
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很多人問我關於Lost檔案這部影集
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"What the hell's that island?" You know,
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『那座小島到底是怎麼回事』
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it's usually followed by,
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通常他們會接著問
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"No, seriously, what the hell is that island?"
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『不, 說真的, 那座島到底是怎麼一回事？』
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(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
00:35
Why so many mysteries? What is it about mystery that I seem to be drawn to?
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為什麼有那麼多謎團,到底是什麼讓我如此的著迷
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And I was thinking about this, what to talk about at TED.
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我開始思考要在TED談些什麼
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When I talked to the kind rep from TED, and I said,
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當我跟TED的代表聊起時, 我說
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"Listen, you know, what should I talk about?"
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『嘿, 你覺得我應該說些什麼才好？』
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He said, "Don't worry about it. Just be profound."
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他回道：『別擔心, 講些意義深遠的就好』
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(Laughter) And I took enormous comfort in that.
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我聽完鬆了一大口氣
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So thank you, if you're here.
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如果你在這場的話, 謝謝你喔
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I was trying to think, what do I talk about? It's a good question.
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我在想應該來講些什麼. 這是個好問題
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Why do I do so much stuff that involves mystery? And I started trying to figure it out.
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為什麼我做了那麼多有關神祕事物的東西？我開始探尋其原因
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And I started thinking about why do I do any of what I do,
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我開始思考我為什麼要做這些事
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and I started thinking about my grandfather.
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然後我想起了我的祖父
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I loved my grandfather. Harry Kelvin was his name,
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我很愛我的祖父. 他叫做哈利凱文
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my mother's father. He died in 1986. He was an amazing guy.
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是我的外祖父. 他在1986年逝世.是個非常棒的人
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And one of the reasons he was amazing:
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他的其中一項事蹟就是
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After World War II he began an electronics company.
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在世界第二大戰之後,他成立一家電子公司
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He started selling surplus parts, kits, to schools and stuff.
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他開始把一些多餘的零件,工具賣給學校之類的
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So he had this incredible curiosity. As a kid I saw him
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他擁有非常強烈的好奇心. 當我還小, 看著他
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come over to me with radios and telephones and all sorts of things.
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拿著各式收音機,電話與其他電器走到我身邊
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And he'd open them up, he'd unscrew them, and reveal the inner workings --
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然後他會將它們一個個打開, 鬆開螺絲, 展露其內部構造
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which many of us, I'm sure, take for granted.
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我想這些對我們來說都是很理所當然的
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But it's an amazing gift to give a kid.
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但這對一個孩子而言是非常棒的禮物
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To open up this thing and show how it works and why it works and what it is.
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去拆解一個機器, 展現其運作結構以及原理
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He was the ultimate deconstructer, in many ways.
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在許多方面來看, 他都是個解構達人
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And my grandfather was a kind of guy who would not only take things apart,
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但我外祖父不僅只會拆解東西
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but he got me interested in all sorts of different odd crafts,
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他還讓我對不同類型的奇特手工藝深感興趣
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like, you know, printing, like the letter press. I'm obsessed with printing.
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像是印刷, 還有活字版印刷. 我深深地為印刷著迷
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I'm obsessed with silk screening and bookbinding and box making.
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我也非常喜愛絹印, 書籍裝訂以及盒子製作
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When I was a kid, I was always, like, taking apart boxes and stuff.
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當我還是個孩子時, 我總愛把盒子之類的東西拆解開來
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And last night in the hotel, I took apart the Kleenex box.
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昨晚在飯店時, 我把一個衛生紙盒拆開來
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I was just looking at it. And I'm telling you ... (Laughter) It's a beautiful thing.
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然後我就這麼盯著它看. 我告訴你們, 這其實是件很美妙的事
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I swear to God. I mean, when you look at the box, and you sort of see how it works.
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我發誓, 當你看著這個盒子, 你其實就看到它是怎麼構成的
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Rives is here, and I met him years ago at a book fair; he does pop-up books.
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Rives今天也在這裡. 我幾年前在一場書展碰到他. 他是做立體書的
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And I'm obsessed with, like, engineering of paper.
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我覺得那真得很吸引人, 就像個紙張工程
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But like, the scoring of it, the printing of it, where the thing gets glued,
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像是在紙張上做記號, 將其印刷出來, 接著上膠裝訂
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you know, the registration marks for the ink. I just love boxes.
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就是墨水的標誌記號. 我真的很愛盒子
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My grandfather was sort of the guy who, you know,
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我外祖父就是會
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kind of got me into all sorts of these things.
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讓我對這些事物深深著迷
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He would also supply me with tools.
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他也會提供我用具
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He was this amazing encourager -- this patron, sort of, to make stuff.
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他非常的鼓勵我. 資助我讓我發揮
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And he got me a Super 8 camera when I was 10 years old.
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當我10歲時, 他便給了我一台Super 8攝影機
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And in 1976, that was sort of an anomaly,
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在當時1976年, 這是非常少見
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to be a 10-year-old kid that had access to a camera.
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會給一個10歲孩童一台攝影機
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And you know, he was so generous; I couldn't believe it.
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但他非常的慷慨, 我簡直無法想像
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He wasn't doing it entirely without some manipulation.
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但他當然不是完全出於自願
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I mean, I would call him, and I'd be like,
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我是說, 我會打電話給他說
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"Listen, Grandpa, I really need this camera.
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『外公, 我真的很需要這台攝影機』
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You don't understand. This is, like, you know, I want to make movies.
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『你不了解. 我以後想要拍電影』
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I'll get invited to TED one day. This is like -- " (Laughter)
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『說不定還會被TED邀請去演講 』
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And you know, and my grandmother was the greatest.
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但我外婆才是最棒的
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Because she'd be like, you know -- she'd get on the phone.
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因為她會湊到電話旁
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She'd be like, "Harry, it's better than the drugs. He should be doing -- "
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然後說著：『哈利, 這總比嗑藥好, 他應該...』
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She was fantastic. (Laughter)
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她實在是太棒了
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So I found myself getting this stuff,
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所以我開始沉迷於這些事物
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thanks to her assist, and suddenly, you know,
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還好有她的幫忙, 而且突然之間
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I had a synthesizer when I was 14 years old -- this kind of stuff.
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在我14歲時, 我有了音響
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And it let me make things, which, to me, was sort of the dream.
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而這讓我能夠做, 對我當時而言是非常遙不可及的東西
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He sort of humored my obsession to other things too, like magic.
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他也讓我對其他事物開始產生興趣, 例如魔術
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The thing is, we'd go to this magic store in New York City called Lou Tannen's Magic.
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有次我們到紐約市的一家魔術道具店--魯泰南魔術店
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It was this great magic store. It was a crappy little building in Midtown,
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那間店很棒, 是位在市中心裡殘破不堪的小店
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but you'd be in the elevator, the elevator would open --
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當你搭電梯而上, 電梯門開了
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there'd be this little, small magic store. You'd be in the magic store.
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映入眼簾的一家小魔術店, 你就身在一個魔術店裡
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And it was just, it was a magical place.
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那是個很神奇的地方
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So I got all these sort of magic tricks. Oh, here. I'll show you.
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我在那裡看到許多魔術伎倆. 我來表演給大家看
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This is the kind of thing. So it would be like, you know. Right?
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就像這樣的東西, 然後它會變不見
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Which is good, but now I can't move.
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這樣是很好啦, 但我現在無法動彈
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Now, I have to do this, the rest of the thing, like this.
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現在我得完成其餘的步驟, 像這樣
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I'm like, "Oh, wow. Look at my computer over there!" (Laughter)
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『噢! 我的電腦在那呢!』
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Anyway, so one of the things that I bought at the magic store was this:
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我在那家魔術店買的一項東西就是:
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Tannen's Mystery Magic Box.
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泰南的神秘魔法盒
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The premise behind the mystery magic box was the following:
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這個神秘魔法盒子背後的旨要
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15 dollars buys you 50 dollars worth of magic.
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就是花15元就買到價值50元的魔術
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Which is a savings. (Laughter)
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真的相當划算
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Now, I bought this decades ago and I'm not kidding.
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早在幾十年前，我就買了這個盒子
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If you look at this, you'll see it's never been opened.
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但是我從未打開過
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But I've had this forever.
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但我已經擁有它那麼久了
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Now, I was looking at this, it was in my office, as it always is, on the shelf,
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我會盯著它看, 擺在辦公室裡的櫃子上
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and I was thinking, why have I not opened this?
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然後我不禁自問, 為什麼我不把盒子打開?
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And why have I kept it? Because I'm not a pack rat. I don't keep everything
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我為什麼要留著它, 我又不是收藏狂, 我不會把東西都留起來
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but for some reason I haven't opened this box.
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但不知怎麼地, 我從未想要把它打開
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And I felt like there was a key to this, somehow,
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我覺得那似乎是一個契機
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in talking about something at TED that I haven't discussed before,
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可以來TED談談我未曾談過的事
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and bored people elsewhere.
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也沒有在其他地方拿去煩別人的
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So I thought, maybe there's something with this. I started thinking about it.
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所以我想也許這有什麼意義, 我開始思索
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And there was this giant question mark. I love the design, for what it's worth,
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盒子上有個很大的問號, 我喜歡它的設計
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of this thing. And I started thinking, why haven't I opened it?
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我開始想, 那我為何不打開它呢?
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And I realized that I haven't opened it because it represents something important
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然後我了解到我沒有打開這盒子, 是因為它代表了某種重要的意義
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-- to me. It represents my grandfather.
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對我來說, 它代表了我的外公
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Am I allowed to cry at TED? Because -- no, I'm not going to cry. But -- (Laughter)
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我可以在TED這裡大哭嗎? 噢, 我不會哭啦
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-- the thing is, that it represents infinite possibility.
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但它其實代表了無限的可能
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It represents hope. It represents potential.
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它代表了希望, 代表了潛力
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And what I love about this box,
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這也就是我喜愛這個盒子的原因
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and what I realize I sort of do in whatever it is that I do,
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我發現我所做這一切的原因就是
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is I find myself drawn to infinite possibility, that sense of potential.
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我發現自己深深著迷於無限的可能性與潛力
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And I realize that mystery is the catalyst for imagination.
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我了解到未知其實就是激發想像力的導引
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Now, it's not the most ground-breaking idea,
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這並不是什麼石破天驚的想法
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but when I started to think that maybe there are times when mystery
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但當我開始思考也許有時未知的力量
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is more important than knowledge, I started getting interested in this.
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比知識還要強大, 我開始對此產生興趣
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And so I started thinking about "Lost," and the stuff that we do,
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所以我開始發想關於Lost檔案及其他我們所做的
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and I realized, oh my God, mystery boxes are everywhere in what I do!
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我了解到, 噢天啊, 在我所致力的一切裡, 到處都是神祕盒子
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In how -- in the creation of "Lost," Damon Lindelof and I,
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在發想Lost檔案初期, 我和達蒙林德洛夫
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who created the show with me, we were basically tasked with creating this series
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我們一起製作這部影集, 在初期是困難重重的
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that we had very little time to do. We had 11 and a half weeks
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沒有什麼時間去做, 我們只有約11個禮拜
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to write it, cast it, crew it, shoot it, cut it, post it, turn in a two-hour pilot.
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把劇本寫好, 選演員, 找團隊, 拍攝, 剪輯成兩小時的首播集
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So it was not a lot of time. And that sense of possibility -- what could this thing be?
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所以真的沒多少時間去做.不知道事情會變得如何？
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There was no time to develop it.
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我們並沒有其他時間將其發展下去
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I'm sure you're all familiar with those people
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我想大家都已經都很熟悉
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who tell you what you can't do and what you should change.
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總會有人告訴你哪些事不能做, 應該改變什麼
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And there was no time for that, which is kind of amazing.
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但已經沒有時間去調整, 其實也很神奇
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And so we did this show, and for those of you who, you know, who haven't seen it,
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我們製作了這部影集, 對那些沒有看過的人
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or don't know it, I can show you this one little clip from the pilot,
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或沒聽過的人, 我在這裡秀一段首集的片段
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just to show you some stuff that we did.
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讓大家對我們所做的東西更為了解
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Claire: Help! Please help me! Help me! Help me!
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救命阿！救命！
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Jack: Get him out of here! Get him away from the engine! Get him out of here!
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把他帶離這裡, 不要待在引擎旁 , 快把他移開
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C: I'm having contractions!
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我好像快要生了
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J: How many months pregnant are you?
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你現在幾個月的身孕了？
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C: I'm only eight months.
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只有八個月
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J: And how far apart are they coming?
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陣痛的時間多久了？
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C: I don't know. I think it just happened.
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我不知道, 我想是剛剛才開始的
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Man: Hey! Hey! Hey, get away from --
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嘿！趕快離開
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JJA: Now, 10 years ago, if we wanted to do that, we'd have to kill a stuntman.
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十年前如果我們要拍這場戲, 可能就得殺一位替身
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We'd actually -- (Laughter)
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事實上...
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it would be harder. It would take -- Take 2 would be a bitch.
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這會更加的困難, 如果還NG就完了
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So the amazing thing was, we were able to do this thing.
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神奇的地方在於我們可以完成這樣的事
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And part of that was the amazing availability of technology,
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部分原因得歸功於現代科技的發達
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knowing we could do anything. I mean, we could never have done that.
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讓我們無所不能, 從前我們是無法做到的
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We might have been able to write it; we wouldn't have been able to depict it
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以前我們也許可以描述出來, 但我們無法精準的體現
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like we did. And so part of the amazing thing for me is in the creative process,
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我覺得另一個神奇的是創意的產出過程
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technology is, like, mind-blowingly inspiring to me.
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對我來說, 科技激發我強烈的靈感
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I realize that that blank page is a magic box, you know?
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我了解到空白頁其實就是個神祕盒子
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It needs to be filled with something fantastic.
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得填上許多絕妙的點子
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I used to have the "Ordinary People" script that I'd flip through.
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我曾經翻閱電影『凡夫俗子』的劇本
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The romance of the script was amazing to me; it would inspire me.
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電影裡的浪漫劇情讓我很感動, 激發了我
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I wanted to try and fill pages with the same kind of
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我曾試著想要寫出與那部電影具有相同精神
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spirit and thought and emotion that that script did.
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想法與情感的東西
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You know, I love Apple computers. I'm obsessed.
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我喜歡蘋果電腦, 我是個蘋果迷
08:16
So the Apple computer -- like those -- the PowerBook -- this computer, right,
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蘋果電腦, 像這台Powerbook
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it challenges me. It basically says,
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讓我倍感威脅, 好像在對我說
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what are you going to write worthy of me? (Laughter)
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你能寫出什麼配的上我的東西？
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I guess I feel this -- I'm compelled.
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我想自己被奴役了
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And I often am like, you know, dude, today I'm out. I got nothing. You know? (Laughter)
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我常常會, 就像:老兄,我沒輒了, 我想不出來
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So there's that. In terms of the content of it, you look at stories, you think,
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關於事物的內容. 當你看到故事情節, 你會想
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well, what are stories but mystery boxes?
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故事不就是神祕盒子嗎？
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There's a fundamental question -- in TV, the first act is called the teaser.
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這是個非常根本的問題, 在電視圈, 第一幕就要夠吸引觀眾
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It's literally the teaser. It's the big question.
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基本上就是丟出一個問題
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So you're drawn into it. Then of course,
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來吸引觀眾
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there's another question. And it goes on and on.
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然後接著又會有另一個謎團, 不停地接踵而至
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Look at "Star Wars." You got the droids; they meet the mysterious woman.
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像『星際大戰』裡有機器人, 他們遇見了個神祕女性
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Who's that? We don't know. Mystery box! You know?
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那是誰, 我們不知道. 是神祕盒子！
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Then you meet Luke Skywalker. He gets the Droid, you see the holographic image.
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接著還有天行者, 他有了機器人, 然後我們就看到一幅立體影像
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You learn, oh, it's a message, you know.
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你才發覺, 噢！這是個寓意
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She wants to, you know, find Obi Wan Kenobi. He's her only hope.
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她想要找到歐比王肯諾比. 他是她唯一的希望
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But who the hell's Obi Wan Kenobi? Mystery box!
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但那個歐比王到底是誰？ 神祕盒子！
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So then you go and he meets Ben Kenobi. Ben Kenobi is Obi Wan Kenobi.
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然後他又遇見了班肯諾比. 班肯諾比就是歐比王肯諾比
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Holy shit! You know -- so it keeps us --
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老天啊！這讓我們...
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(Laughter) -- have you guys not seen that?
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你們難道沒看過嗎？
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(Laughter) It's huge! Anyway --
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這部片很紅耶
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So there's this thing with mystery boxes that I started feeling compelled.
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我覺得神祕盒子有某種力量驅動著我
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Then there's the thing of mystery in terms of imagination --
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有些事像神祕與想像
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the withholding of information. You know,
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都其實蘊含意義
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doing that intentionally is much more engaging.
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有目的性的去做而不僅僅只是參與而已
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Whether it's like the shark in "Jaws"
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像是電影『大白鯊』裡的鯊魚
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-- if Spielberg's mechanical shark, Bruce, had worked,
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如果史匹柏的機器鯊魚,布魯斯能動的話
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it would not be remotely as scary; you would have seen it too much.
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就不需要在遠處擺出嚇人的樣子, 也沒有太多鏡頭
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In "Alien", they never really showed the alien: terrifying!
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而在電影『異形』裡, 從未出現過異形的樣子: 太可怕了！
09:34
Even in a movie, like a romantic comedy, "The Graduate,"
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甚至是在一部愛情喜劇電影『畢業生』
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they're having that date, remember?
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記得他們正在約會那一幕嗎？
09:39
And they're in the car, and it's loud, and so they put the top up.
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他們坐在車裡, 周圍很吵雜, 所以他們把車頂拉起
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They're in there -- you don't hear anything they're saying! You can't hear a word!
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他們就坐在裡面,觀眾聽不到他們的談話, 什麼都聽不到
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But it's the most romantic date ever. And you love it because you don't hear it.
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但這卻是最浪漫的約會經典畫面, 你會愛這一幕是因為你聽不到
09:49
So to me, there's that.
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所以這就是如此
09:51
And then, finally, there's this idea -- stretching the sort of paradigm a little bit --
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所以就是這個概念- 將這個概念應用的稍為廣一點
09:55
but the idea of the mystery box.
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但神秘盒子的概念
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Meaning, what you think you're getting, then what you're really getting.
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代表你將會得到, 而且後來真的成真了
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And it's true in so many movies and stories.
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這在很多電影與故事都能印證
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And when you look at "E.T.," for example -- "E.T." is this, you know,
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例如,『E.T.』這部電影, 這部電影是關於
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unbelievable movie about what? It's about an alien who meets a kid, right?
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一個外星人與小男孩相遇的故事對吧?
10:08
Well, it's not. "E.T." is about divorce. "E.T." is about a heartbroken,
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但其實不是, 這部電影其實是關於離婚, 關於一個
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divorce-crippled family, and ultimately, this kid who can't find his way.
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破碎家庭, 後來這個孩子無法找到生命出口的故事
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"Die Hard," right? Crazy, great, fun, action-adventure movie in a building.
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『終極警探』是部很瘋狂, 精彩有趣的動作冒險電影
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It's about a guy who's on the verge of divorce.
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但他其實是在描述一名男子正處於離婚邊緣
10:21
He's showing up to L.A., tail between his legs.
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垂頭喪氣地跑到洛杉磯
10:23
There are great scenes -- maybe not the most amazing dramatic
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裡面有多精彩的畫面, 也許並不是史上
10:26
scenes in the history of time, but pretty great scenes.
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最佳的場面, 但也很不錯了
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There's a half an hour of investment in character before you get to the stuff
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在真正好戲上場前, 該角色有約半小時的劇情鋪陳
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that you're, you know, expecting.
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你會有期待感
10:34
When you look at a movie like "Jaws,"
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當在看像電影『大白鯊』
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the scene that you expect -- we have the screen?
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你會期待看到, 我們有畫面嗎?
10:38
These are the kind of, you know, scenes that you remember and expect from "Jaws."
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這些就是我們會記得, 並且期待在『大白鯊』裡看到的場面
10:42
And she's being eaten; there's a shark.
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有一隻鯊魚, 她會被吃掉
10:47
The thing about "Jaws" is, it's really about a guy
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『大白鯊』這部電影其實是關於一名男子
10:49
who is sort of dealing with his place in the world -- with his masculinity,
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身上背負著家庭, 要在世界上找自己的定位
10:52
with his family, how he's going to, you know, make it work in this new town.
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以及他如何在新環境中使一切成功
10:56
This is one of my favorite scenes ever,
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這是我最愛的一幕之一
10:58
and this is a scene that you wouldn't necessarily think of when you think of "Jaws."
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我們通常不會把這一幕與『大白鯊』聯想在一起
11:01
But it's an amazing scene.
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但這真的很棒
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Father: C'mere. Give us a kiss.
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過來, 親爸爸一下
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Son: Why?
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為什麼
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Father: 'Cause I need it.
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因為我需要
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JJA: C'mon. "Why? 'Cause I need it?" Best scene ever, right?
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拜託, 『為什麼？因為我需要？』太棒了, 不是嗎？
12:14
Come on! So you think of "Jaws" --
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對吧！ 所以當你想到『大白鯊』
12:17
so that's the kind of stuff that, like, you know, the investment of character,
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這種就是對人物個性的描述
12:21
which is the stuff that really is inside the box, you know?
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這也就是藏在盒子裡的東西
12:24
It's why when people do sequels, or rip off movies, you know, of a genre,
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這就是為什麼當要做電影續集或重拍老片時
12:27
they're ripping off the wrong thing.
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他們都把重點擺錯
12:29
You're not supposed to rip off the shark or the monster.
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不應該只是複製鯊魚或怪獸
12:31
You gotta rip off -- you know, if you rip something off -- rip off the character.
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應該要帶進人物個性的部份
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Rip off the stuff that matters. I mean, look inside yourself and figure out what is inside you.
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加入真正重要的部份, 我是指好好審視內心找出屬於自己的那一塊
12:38
Because ultimately, you know, the mystery box is all of us. So there's that.
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因為最終神祕盒子其實就是我們每一個人
12:43
Then the distribution. What's a bigger mystery box than a movie theater?
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再來是分配. 什麼樣的神祕盒子比電影戲院更大？
12:46
You know? You go to the theater, you're just so excited to see anything.
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你走進電影院, 期待著看到精采絕倫的戲
12:48
The moment the lights go down is often the best part, you know?
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最棒的部份就是當燈光熄滅的那一刻
12:51
And you're full of that amazing --
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那一刻你的興奮之情
12:54
that feeling of excited anticipation.
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溢於言表
12:57
And often, the movie's, like, there and it's going, and then something happens
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通常電影開演, 然後有事件發生了
12:59
and you go, "Oh--" and then something else, and you're, "Mmm ..."
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然後你會:噢, 接著又有另一轉折, 你會：嗯..
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Now, when it's a great movie, you're along for the ride
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這時若是一部好片, 你會隨著電影心情上上下下
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'cause you're willing to give yourself to it.
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因為你願意把自己投入在電影之中
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So to me, whether it's that, whether it's a TV, an iPod, computer, cell phone --
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對我來說這不管是在戲院, 電視 還是用iPod, 電腦或手機來看
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it's funny, I'm an -- as I said, Apple fanatic -- and one day, about a year or so ago,
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這很有趣. 我是個蘋果迷, 而有一天, 大該是約一年前
13:14
I was signing on online in the morning to watch Steve Jobs' keynote,
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一早我上網要看賈伯斯的演講
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'cause I always do. And he came on, he was presenting the video iPod,
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我必看的. 然後他正在展示 Video iPod
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and what was on the enormous iPod behind him?
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在他身後巨大的iPod正撥著什麼？
13:25
"Lost"! I had no idea! And I realized, holy shit, it'd come full circle.
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『Lost檔案』! 我完全沒想到, 後來我發現這一切都是相互關連的
13:30
Like, the inspiration I get from the technology is now using the stuff that I do,
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就像我從科技得到的靈感, 運用在我致力的事物上
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inspired by it, to sell technology. I mean, it's nuts! (Laughter)
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然後我所做的用來幫助科技的販賣, 超不可思議的!
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I was gonna show you a couple of other things I'm gonna skip through.
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我原本要介紹其他的, 但還是跳過好了
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I just want to show you one other thing that has nothing to do with anything.
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我要介紹跟上述沒有關係的東西
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This is something online; I don't know if you've seen it before.
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是網路上的影片, 不知道你們有沒有看過
13:43
Six years ago they did this. This is an online thing done by guys
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6年前幾個有特效經驗的人
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who had some visual effects experience. But the point was,
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做了這個, 重點是
13:49
that they were doing things that were using these mystery boxes that they had --
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他們運用了他們所擁有的神祕盒子
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everyone has now.
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現在其實每個人都有
13:54
What I've realized is what my grandfather did for me when I was a kid,
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我體認到我外公對我小時候的影響
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everyone has access to now.
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其實現在每一個人都能擁有
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You don't need to have my grandfather, though you wished you had.
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你不需要有我的外公, 雖然你會希望你能有
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But I have to tell you -- this is a guy doing stuff on a Quadra 950 computer
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但我得告訴你們,這個傢伙用Quadra 950型的蘋果電腦
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-- the resolution's a little bit low --
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畫素有點低
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using Infinity software they stopped making 15 years ago.
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用15年前便停止生產的無限軟體
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He's doing stuff that looks as amazing as stuff I've seen released from Hollywood.
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做出非常精采的畫面,就跟我在好萊塢看到的一樣
14:16
The most incredible sort of mystery, I think, is now the question of what comes next.
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神祕力量最神奇的是你不知道接下來會發生什麼事
14:22
Because it is now democratized. So now, the creation of media is -- it's everywhere.
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現在民主社會裡, 各式媒體垂手可得
14:26
The stuff that I was lucky and begging for to get when I was a kid is now ubiquitous.
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我小時候很幸運可以得到資源,像這樣的情況現在都很普遍
14:31
And so, there's an amazing sense of opportunity out there.
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到處都有很棒機會
14:34
And when I think of the filmmakers who exist out there now who would have
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每當我想到那些成功的電影工作者
14:39
been silenced, you know -- who have been silenced in the past --
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可能不會有出頭的機會或曾經一度默默無聞
14:42
it's a very exciting thing.
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這是非常驚喜的改變
14:43
I used to say in classes and lectures and stuff,
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我以前演講上課的時候一定會跟那些
14:46
to someone who wants to write, "Go! Write! Do your thing." It's free,
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寫作的學生說：就去寫, 把你的故事寫下來. 反正不用錢
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you know, you don't need permission to go write. But now I can say,
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寫作並不需要獲得許可才能寫. 但現在我可以說
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"Go make your movie!" There's nothing stopping you
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『去拍屬於你自己的電影！』任何事情都無法阻擋你
14:53
from going out there and getting the technology.
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起身去行動, 運用科技
14:55
You can lease, rent, buy stuff off the shelf
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不管是用租的還是買的
14:58
that is either as good, or just as good, as the stuff that's being used by the, you know,
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任何方式都好, 只要是運用在
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quote unquote "legit people."
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所謂的『善良老百姓』的身上
15:06
No community is best served when only the elite have control.
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只有少數菁英分子掌控的國家並無法發揮良好效率的
15:10
And I feel like this is an amazing opportunity to see what else is out there.
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我覺得這真的很棒, 知道社會上充滿生機
15:13
When I did "Mission: Impossible III," we had amazing visual effects stuff.
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當我製作『不可能任務三』時, 做了很多很棒的視覺特效
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ILM did the effects; it was incredible.
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是由ILM製作的, 非常的棒
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And sort of like my dream to be involved.
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有點像是夢想成真
15:20
And there are a couple of sequences in the movie,
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電影裡有一系列的鏡頭
15:23
like these couple of moments I'll show you.
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像是我等一下播放的
15:31
There's that.
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就是這個
15:52
Okay, obviously I have an obsession with big crazy explosions.
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很明顯, 我這個人超愛瘋狂的爆破大場面
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So my favorite visual effect in the movie is the one I'm about to show you.
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電影裡我最愛的特效畫面,待會我會播放讓你們看看
15:59
And it's a scene in which Tom's character wakes up. He's drowsy. He's crazy
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這一幕是關於湯姆所飾演的主角剛醒來, 昏昏的
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-- out of it. And the guy wakes up,
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非常瘋狂, 他醒來
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and he shoves this gun in his nose and shoots this little capsule into his brain
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拿起他的槍抵住他的鼻子, 將一粒小膠囊射入他的腦袋
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that he's going to use later to kill him, as bad guys do.
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那膠囊將會置他於死, 就像壞人通常會做的事
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Bad Guy: Good morning.
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早安
16:20
JJA: OK, now. When we shot that scene, we were there doing it,
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當我們在拍攝這一場戲時,
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the actor who had the gun, an English actor, Eddie Marsan -- sweetheart, great guy
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那位英國演員艾迪瑪森拿著槍, 大好人一個
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-- he kept taking the gun and putting it into Tom's nose, and it was hurting Tom's nose.
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他一直拿著槍, 把槍抵住湯姆的鼻子, 然後湯姆的鼻子就受傷了
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And I learned this very early on in my career: Don't hurt Tom's nose. (Laughter)
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我很早前就學到: 千萬不要傷到湯姆克魯斯的鼻子
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There are three things you don't want to do. Number two is: Don't hurt Tom's nose.
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有三件事是絕對不能犯的, 第二件事就是不要傷到湯姆的鼻子
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So Eddie has this gun -- and he's the greatest guy -- he's
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所以艾迪拿著槍, 他是個很好的人
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this really sweet English guy. He's like, "Sorry, I don't want to hurt you."
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他就是個非常貼心的英國男孩, 他會：『對不起, 我無意傷害你』
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I'm like -- you gotta -- we have to make this look good.
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但我們得拍好這場戲
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And I realized that we had to do something 'cause it wasn't working just as it was.
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然後我發現我們必須調整, 因為出來的效果不佳
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And I literally, like, thought back to what I would have done using
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然後我便開始回想當時我拿著外公送我的
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the Super 8 camera that my grandfather got me sitting in that room,
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那台Super 8攝影機坐在房間裡時, 我會做些什麼
16:55
and I realized that hand didn't have to be Eddie Marsan's. It could be Tom's.
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然後我發現這根本不需要艾迪來拿著槍, 可以讓湯姆來拿著
17:00
And Tom would know just how hard to push the gun. He wouldn't hurt himself.
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湯姆會知道該使多大的力, 就不會傷到他自己
17:03
So we took his hand and we painted it to look a little bit more like Eddie's.
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所以我們把湯姆的手化妝成像是艾迪的手
17:06
We put it in Eddie's sleeve,
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套上艾迪的袖子
17:09
and so the hand that you see -- I'll show you again,
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所以你們看到的那隻手－我再放一次
17:11
that's not Eddie's hand, that's Tom's.
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不是艾迪的手, 而是湯姆的
17:12
So Tom is playing two roles. (Laughter)
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所以湯姆一人分飾兩角喔
17:15
And he didn't ask for any more money.
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而且他還沒多要酬勞
17:17
So here, here. Watch it again.
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再看一次
17:20
There he is. He's waking up. He's drowsy, been through a lot.
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他醒來, 還很昏沉, 經歷許多折磨
17:29
Tom's hand. Tom's hand. Tom's hand. (Laughter) Anyway.
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你們看湯姆的手, 是湯姆的手！
17:32
So.
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所以...
17:34
(Applause)
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（掌聲）
17:37
Thanks.
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謝謝
17:40
So you don't need the greatest technology to do things that can work in movies.
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所以有時電影並不需要用到特別厲害的科技
17:45
And the mystery box, in honor of my grandfather, stays closed.
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而神祕魔法盒, 為了向我外公致敬, 將永遠保持封存
17:48
Thank you. (Applause)
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
J.J. Abrams - FilmmakerWriter, director and producer J.J. Abrams makes smart, addictive dramas like TV's Lost, and films like Cloverfield and the new Star Trek.
Why you should listen
As the Emmy-winning creator of the smart, addictive TV dramas Lost, Alias and Felicity, J.J. Abrams' name looms large on the small screen. As the writer/director behind the blockbuster explode-a-thon Mission: Impossible III, Cloverfield and the new Star Trek movie, these days Abrams also rules the big screen -- bringing his eye for telling detail and emotional connection to larger-than-life stories.
Abrams' enthusiasm -- for the construction of Kleenex boxes, for the quiet moments between shark attacks in Jaws, for today's filmmaking technologies, and above all for the potent mystery of an unopened package -- is incredibly infectious.
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