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J.J. Abrams: The mystery box
J.J.Abrams之神秘的盒子
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J.J.Abrams对于神秘事物的爱要追溯到一个魔幻般的开端，他在许多影视作品中都表现出了这种热爱，包括：《科洛弗档案》，《迷失》和《双面女间谍》。
J.J. Abrams - Filmmaker
Writer, director and producer J.J. Abrams makes smart, addictive dramas like TV's Lost, and films like Cloverfield and the new Star Trek. Full bio
Writer, director and producer J.J. Abrams makes smart, addictive dramas like TV's Lost, and films like Cloverfield and the new Star Trek. Full bio
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I wanna start today -- here's my thing. Hold on. There I go.
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我今天要说的，就是……稍等。行了。
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Hey. I wanna start today -- talk about the structure of a polypeptide. (Laughter)
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嘿，我今天要说的，是关于多肽化合物的组织结构。（笑）
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I get a lot of people asking me, in terms of "Lost," you know,
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有很多人问我，关于电视剧《迷失》，
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"What the hell's that island?" You know,
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“那岛到底是什么玩意儿？“
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it's usually followed by,
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然后他们通常还会接着说，
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"No, seriously, what the hell is that island?"
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“真的，那个岛到底是大爷的什么玩意儿？”
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(Laughter)
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（笑声）
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Why so many mysteries? What is it about mystery that I seem to be drawn to?
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哪儿那么多奥秘？最吸引我的又是什么？
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And I was thinking about this, what to talk about at TED.
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我刚就在想，在TED大会上说些什么。
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When I talked to the kind rep from TED, and I said,
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我跟TED大会代表谈话的时候，我说，
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"Listen, you know, what should I talk about?"
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“问你噢，我到底应该谈点什么？”
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He said, "Don't worry about it. Just be profound."
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他说，“别担心，装深沉就行了。”
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(Laughter) And I took enormous comfort in that.
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（笑声）然后我就觉得巨爽无比。
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So thank you, if you're here.
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所以感谢在座的各位。
00:56
I was trying to think, what do I talk about? It's a good question.
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我刚刚想，我要说点什么呢？
00:58
Why do I do so much stuff that involves mystery? And I started trying to figure it out.
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为什么我要做这么多神秘的东西呢？然后我就开始努力去想个结果出来。
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And I started thinking about why do I do any of what I do,
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然后我就开始想为什么我做我要做的，
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and I started thinking about my grandfather.
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我又开始想到了我的外公。
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I loved my grandfather. Harry Kelvin was his name,
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我爱我的外公。他叫Harry Kelvin。
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my mother's father. He died in 1986. He was an amazing guy.
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我母亲的父亲。他1986年去世。他是个了不起的人。
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And one of the reasons he was amazing:
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他之所以了不起，其中一个原因是，
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After World War II he began an electronics company.
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二战以后，他开了一家电子器件公司。
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He started selling surplus parts, kits, to schools and stuff.
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他开始卖一些备件，成套工具给学校之类的地方。
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So he had this incredible curiosity. As a kid I saw him
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所以他有着难以置信的好奇心，我小时候看到他
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come over to me with radios and telephones and all sorts of things.
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向我走过来时手里总拿着收音机，电话之类的。
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And he'd open them up, he'd unscrew them, and reveal the inner workings --
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然后他就打开他们，他把它们都拧开，然后呈现出其内部运转……
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which many of us, I'm sure, take for granted.
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我们当中的很多人，我确信，对那些毫无兴趣。
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But it's an amazing gift to give a kid.
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但是对于小孩子来说那却是神奇的礼物。
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To open up this thing and show how it works and why it works and what it is.
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打开某个东西，展示它如何运作，什么驱使它运作。
01:43
He was the ultimate deconstructer, in many ways.
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他在很多方面都是一个终极破坏者。
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And my grandfather was a kind of guy who would not only take things apart,
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而且我外公他不光自己拆东西，
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but he got me interested in all sorts of different odd crafts,
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他也使我对乱七八糟不同的手工制品十分感兴趣，
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like, you know, printing, like the letter press. I'm obsessed with printing.
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比如，印刷，铅印机，我超爱印刷。
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I'm obsessed with silk screening and bookbinding and box making.
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我对丝网遮蔽法，装订和做盒子十分着迷。
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When I was a kid, I was always, like, taking apart boxes and stuff.
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我小时候，经常玩弄盒子之类的东西。
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And last night in the hotel, I took apart the Kleenex box.
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昨天晚上在酒店，我就在玩克里斯内克斯的纸巾盒。
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I was just looking at it. And I'm telling you ... (Laughter) It's a beautiful thing.
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我就这么看着它，告诉你们，它真美。
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I swear to God. I mean, when you look at the box, and you sort of see how it works.
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我发誓，当你看着盒子的时候，你就好像知道它如何运作的。
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Rives is here, and I met him years ago at a book fair; he does pop-up books.
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Rives在这，我几年前在一个书展上认识他，他是做立体书的。
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And I'm obsessed with, like, engineering of paper.
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我很欣赏他，他就像纸的工程师。
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But like, the scoring of it, the printing of it, where the thing gets glued,
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那些刻痕，印刷，粘合，
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you know, the registration marks for the ink. I just love boxes.
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还有那些墨水印记，我就是喜欢盒子！
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My grandfather was sort of the guy who, you know,
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我的外公是那种，
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kind of got me into all sorts of these things.
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让我对这一切产生兴趣的人。
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He would also supply me with tools.
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我也为我提供工具。
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He was this amazing encourager -- this patron, sort of, to make stuff.
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他是个了不起的赞助人，有点像吧，鼓励我做乱七八糟的东西。
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And he got me a Super 8 camera when I was 10 years old.
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他在我10岁的时候送了我一个Super8相机。
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And in 1976, that was sort of an anomaly,
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当时是1976，这简直太拉风了。
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to be a 10-year-old kid that had access to a camera.
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一个10岁小孩竟然有一个相机。
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And you know, he was so generous; I couldn't believe it.
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我简直无法相信他竟然那么慷慨！
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He wasn't doing it entirely without some manipulation.
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他做这些也不是完全自发的。
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I mean, I would call him, and I'd be like,
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我的意思是，如果我打电话给他，求他买，
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"Listen, Grandpa, I really need this camera.
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“外公，我真的要这个相机。
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You don't understand. This is, like, you know, I want to make movies.
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你不明白的，我想拍电影，
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I'll get invited to TED one day. This is like -- " (Laughter)
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有一天TED会邀请我。就像这样”（笑）
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And you know, and my grandmother was the greatest.
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我外婆简直是最伟大的。
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Because she'd be like, you know -- she'd get on the phone.
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因为，比如她接电话的时候，
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She'd be like, "Harry, it's better than the drugs. He should be doing -- "
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她会对我外公说，“相机总比毒品好，他该找点事做做。”
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She was fantastic. (Laughter)
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她太好了！（笑）
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So I found myself getting this stuff,
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我发现自己得到这些东西，
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thanks to her assist, and suddenly, you know,
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多亏了她帮忙，
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I had a synthesizer when I was 14 years old -- this kind of stuff.
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我14岁的时候就喜欢把乱七八糟的东西搞在一起。
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And it let me make things, which, to me, was sort of the dream.
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它使我有机会自己做东西，这是我的梦想。
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He sort of humored my obsession to other things too, like magic.
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我外公也钩起我对别的东西的兴趣，比如魔术。
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The thing is, we'd go to this magic store in New York City called Lou Tannen's Magic.
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我们常去纽约的Lou Tannen魔术店。
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It was this great magic store. It was a crappy little building in Midtown,
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它很神奇，在市中心的一撞小破楼里。
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but you'd be in the elevator, the elevator would open --
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但你会看到电梯，并且它能用。
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there'd be this little, small magic store. You'd be in the magic store.
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然后上去，你就能看到这家店。
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And it was just, it was a magical place.
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真是个神奇的地方。
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So I got all these sort of magic tricks. Oh, here. I'll show you.
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所以我学会了这些魔术，show给你们看看。
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This is the kind of thing. So it would be like, you know. Right?
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就像，
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Which is good, but now I can't move.
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好，现在不能动了。
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Now, I have to do this, the rest of the thing, like this.
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我可以这样，
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I'm like, "Oh, wow. Look at my computer over there!" (Laughter)
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我可以“噢，看我那边的电脑！”（笑）
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Anyway, so one of the things that I bought at the magic store was this:
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好吧，我在魔术店买了个这个：
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Tannen's Mystery Magic Box.
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Tannen的神秘盒子。
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The premise behind the mystery magic box was the following:
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它的精妙在于，
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15 dollars buys you 50 dollars worth of magic.
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15元买到了值50元的魔术。
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Which is a savings. (Laughter)
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真省钱啊。（笑）
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Now, I bought this decades ago and I'm not kidding.
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我几十年前买的这个，我不是开玩笑的。
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If you look at this, you'll see it's never been opened.
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但我从来没有打开过它，
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But I've had this forever.
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已经很久了。
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Now, I was looking at this, it was in my office, as it always is, on the shelf,
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现在它还在我的办公室，一直在架子上。
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and I was thinking, why have I not opened this?
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我在想，我为什么不打开它呢？
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And why have I kept it? Because I'm not a pack rat. I don't keep everything
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那我为什么留着它？我又不是收破烂的，我不是什么都留着的。
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but for some reason I haven't opened this box.
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但出于某些原因，我没有打开这个盒子。
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And I felt like there was a key to this, somehow,
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我总是觉得它有一把钥匙。
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in talking about something at TED that I haven't discussed before,
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再来TED之前，
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and bored people elsewhere.
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我没有对别人说过这些，他们肯定觉得很无聊。
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So I thought, maybe there's something with this. I started thinking about it.
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然后我开始想，到底是什么那么神奇。
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And there was this giant question mark. I love the design, for what it's worth,
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有个巨大的问号。我喜欢这设计，因为它也值得我喜欢。
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of this thing. And I started thinking, why haven't I opened it?
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对于这个，我开始想，为什么我从来没有打开过它？
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And I realized that I haven't opened it because it represents something important
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然后我意识到我从未打开它是因为它代表了某些重要的东西
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-- to me. It represents my grandfather.
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对我而言，它代表了外公。
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Am I allowed to cry at TED? Because -- no, I'm not going to cry. But -- (Laughter)
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我可不可以在这里哭？不，我不会哭。（笑）
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-- the thing is, that it represents infinite possibility.
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关键在于它给了我无限的遐想空间。
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It represents hope. It represents potential.
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它代表了希望，代表了潜力。
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And what I love about this box,
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我最喜欢这个盒子之处，
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and what I realize I sort of do in whatever it is that I do,
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就是我意识到我可以做任何我想做的事情，
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is I find myself drawn to infinite possibility, that sense of potential.
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发现我自己沉浸在那种无限的可能和潜力中。
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And I realize that mystery is the catalyst for imagination.
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然后我意识到那份神秘就是想象力的催化剂。
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Now, it's not the most ground-breaking idea,
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现在，这已不是最具开拓性的想法。
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but when I started to think that maybe there are times when mystery
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但我开始意识到或许有的时候，
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is more important than knowledge, I started getting interested in this.
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神秘感比知识重要，我渐渐开始对这个感兴趣了。
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And so I started thinking about "Lost," and the stuff that we do,
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然后我开始构想《迷失》，以及我们后来做的一些东西。
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and I realized, oh my God, mystery boxes are everywhere in what I do!
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然后我意识到，我的天啊，我工作中充满了这种神秘盒子。
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In how -- in the creation of "Lost," Damon Lindelof and I,
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比如在《迷失》的创作过程中。
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who created the show with me, we were basically tasked with creating this series
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Damon Lindelof和我一起创作了这部剧，
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that we had very little time to do. We had 11 and a half weeks
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我们当时时间很紧，只有11周半，
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to write it, cast it, crew it, shoot it, cut it, post it, turn in a two-hour pilot.
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要写，要招演员，组织剧组，拍摄，剪辑，然后把它变成2小时的试播片。
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So it was not a lot of time. And that sense of possibility -- what could this thing be?
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所以时间很少。然后出来一个问题，这能拍成什么样？
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There was no time to develop it.
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我们没有时间来发展故事情节。
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I'm sure you're all familiar with those people
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我肯定你们一定记得那些，
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who tell you what you can't do and what you should change.
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告诉你们你不可能做什么，或者你需要改变什么的人，
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And there was no time for that, which is kind of amazing.
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但我们没有时间去想那些，真奇迹。
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And so we did this show, and for those of you who, you know, who haven't seen it,
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然后我们做了这部剧，对于你们之中一些没看过，
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or don't know it, I can show you this one little clip from the pilot,
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或者不知道这部剧的人，我可以放一小段。
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just to show you some stuff that we did.
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只是稍微让你们看一段。
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Claire: Help! Please help me! Help me! Help me!
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Claire: 过来帮帮我！
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Jack: Get him out of here! Get him away from the engine! Get him out of here!
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Jack: 把他弄出来，让他远离引擎！
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C: I'm having contractions!
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C: 我宫缩了！
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J: How many months pregnant are you?
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J: 你怀孕多久了？
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C: I'm only eight months.
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C: 只有八个月。
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J: And how far apart are they coming?
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J:宫缩的频率是怎样？
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C: I don't know. I think it just happened.
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C: 我不知道，我刚发现。
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Man: Hey! Hey! Hey, get away from --
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Man: 嘿！嘿！嘿！离那儿远点！
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JJA: Now, 10 years ago, if we wanted to do that, we'd have to kill a stuntman.
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JJA: 好，10年前我们如果要拍这个，估计得弄死这哥们。
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We'd actually -- (Laughter)
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（笑声）
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it would be harder. It would take -- Take 2 would be a bitch.
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那肯定很难拍，如果我喊重拍一次那简直是人渣。
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So the amazing thing was, we were able to do this thing.
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而现在，我们可以做到了！
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And part of that was the amazing availability of technology,
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除了技术上的先进，
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knowing we could do anything. I mean, we could never have done that.
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知道我们可以做这个，我的意思是，我们以前不能。
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We might have been able to write it; we wouldn't have been able to depict it
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我们以前或许能写出剧本，但拍不出来。
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like we did. And so part of the amazing thing for me is in the creative process,
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所以对我而言，创新的过程很神奇。
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technology is, like, mind-blowingly inspiring to me.
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技术的进步鼓舞着我，
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I realize that that blank page is a magic box, you know?
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我意识到神秘盒子就像一页的空白，
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It needs to be filled with something fantastic.
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需要一些奇特的东西来填充它。
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I used to have the "Ordinary People" script that I'd flip through.
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我曾经想用”Ordinary People“的剧本，
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The romance of the script was amazing to me; it would inspire me.
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那爱情故事太美好，很鼓舞我，
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I wanted to try and fill pages with the same kind of
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我想尝试用那些精神，想法以及情绪来
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spirit and thought and emotion that that script did.
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写出那些剧本。
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You know, I love Apple computers. I'm obsessed.
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所以，你知道，我喜欢苹果电脑。我对它着迷。
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So the Apple computer -- like those -- the PowerBook -- this computer, right,
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所以苹果电脑 -- 像这台PowerBook笔记本 -- 这台计算机
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it challenges me. It basically says,
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这对我来说是个挑战。你知道。
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what are you going to write worthy of me? (Laughter)
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我有什么好写的？（笑声）
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I guess I feel this -- I'm compelled.
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我有这种感觉－－ 我是被迫的。
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And I often am like, you know, dude, today I'm out. I got nothing. You know? (Laughter)
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并且我经常是，你知道，哥们，我土憋了，我什么也没有。你知道吗？（笑声）
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So there's that. In terms of the content of it, you look at stories, you think,
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所以，按照它的内容来说，你看读这些故事的时候，
08:33
well, what are stories but mystery boxes?
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神秘的盒子之外故事是什么？
08:36
There's a fundamental question -- in TV, the first act is called the teaser.
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这是一个基本的问题 －－ 在电视里，第一个动作被叫做难题。
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It's literally the teaser. It's the big question.
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字面上叫难题。这是个大问题。
08:41
So you're drawn into it. Then of course,
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所以你去研究它。之后则是必然，
08:43
there's another question. And it goes on and on.
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还有另一个问题，就是它会不断有续集出现。
08:45
Look at "Star Wars." You got the droids; they meet the mysterious woman.
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看看，比如“星际迷航”，你会发现新机器人，他们遇到了神秘的妇人。
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Who's that? We don't know. Mystery box! You know?
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那是谁？我们不知道，神秘的盒子！知道吗？
08:49
Then you meet Luke Skywalker. He gets the Droid, you see the holographic image.
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然后你会看到天行者.路克（Luke Skywalker），他得那了机器人，你看全息图像。
08:52
You learn, oh, it's a message, you know.
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你发现，哦，这是个讯息，你知道。
08:54
She wants to, you know, find Obi Wan Kenobi. He's her only hope.
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她想要让你发现欧比旺（Obi Wan Kenobi），他是她唯一的希望。
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But who the hell's Obi Wan Kenobi? Mystery box!
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但谁是见鬼的欧比旺（Obi Wan Kenobi）？ 神秘的盒子！
08:58
So then you go and he meets Ben Kenobi. Ben Kenobi is Obi Wan Kenobi.
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所以你继续看然后他见到了班（Ben Kenobi）。班就是欧比旺。
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Holy shit! You know -- so it keeps us --
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太牛X了！你知道－－就是吸引着我们－－
09:03
(Laughter) -- have you guys not seen that?
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（笑声）－－ 你们就没有发现吗？
09:06
(Laughter) It's huge! Anyway --
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（笑声） 它太明显了！ 不管怎么说－－
09:08
So there's this thing with mystery boxes that I started feeling compelled.
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因此我的神秘盒子让我开始感觉，像是被迫的感觉。
09:14
Then there's the thing of mystery in terms of imagination --
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然后这样的事就像是，想像力的神秘－－
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the withholding of information. You know,
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拒绝把信息给你。你知道，
09:20
doing that intentionally is much more engaging.
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故意去那样设计是为了让故事更迷人。
09:24
Whether it's like the shark in "Jaws"
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就像是电影《大白鲨》里的鲨鱼一样
09:26
-- if Spielberg's mechanical shark, Bruce, had worked,
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－－如果斯皮尔伯格的机械鲨鱼Bruce当时可以使用，
09:28
it would not be remotely as scary; you would have seen it too much.
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它就不会离老远都很恐怖；你会花更多的时间看它
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In "Alien", they never really showed the alien: terrifying!
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在《外星人》里，他们从来没直正给你看过外星人：太恐怖啦！
09:34
Even in a movie, like a romantic comedy, "The Graduate,"
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就算是在一部电影里，比如浪漫喜剧片《毕业生》
09:37
they're having that date, remember?
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他们有那样的约会，还记得吗？
09:39
And they're in the car, and it's loud, and so they put the top up.
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并且他们在车里，声音很大，所以他们开了顶棚。
09:42
They're in there -- you don't hear anything they're saying! You can't hear a word!
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他们在那儿－－ 你听不到任何他们说的话！你听不见一个字！
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But it's the most romantic date ever. And you love it because you don't hear it.
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但那却是最浪漫的约会，并且你爱看因为你什么也听不见。
09:49
So to me, there's that.
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于是对我来讲，就是那种感觉。
09:51
And then, finally, there's this idea -- stretching the sort of paradigm a little bit --
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最后，那就是这种想法－－ 用一个例子展来来讲－－
09:55
but the idea of the mystery box.
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这个神秘盒子的想法。
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Meaning, what you think you're getting, then what you're really getting.
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然后，你觉得你得到了什么，你真正得到了什么。
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And it's true in so many movies and stories.
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在这么多的电影和故事里。
10:03
And when you look at "E.T.," for example -- "E.T." is this, you know,
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当你看〈外星人〉时，比如〈外星人〉这种
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unbelievable movie about what? It's about an alien who meets a kid, right?
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难以置信的电影是在讲什么？ 它讲述的是外星人遇到一个小孩子对不对？
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Well, it's not. "E.T." is about divorce. "E.T." is about a heartbroken,
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好吧，它不是，〈外星人〉是在讲离婚。〈外星人〉是讲了一个心碎的，
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divorce-crippled family, and ultimately, this kid who can't find his way.
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支离破碎的家庭，并且最终，这个孩子找不到他的路。
10:15
"Die Hard," right? Crazy, great, fun, action-adventure movie in a building.
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〈虎胆龙威〉对吧？疯狂，伟大，搞笑，动作冒险的大作。
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It's about a guy who's on the verge of divorce.
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讲的是一个面对离婚的男人。
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He's showing up to L.A., tail between his legs.
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他夹着尾巴出现在洛杉矶。
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There are great scenes -- maybe not the most amazing dramatic
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那些是很棒的场景－－也许不是历史长河里
10:26
scenes in the history of time, but pretty great scenes.
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最惊人的戏剧作品，但一定是非常非常棒的场景。
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There's a half an hour of investment in character before you get to the stuff
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在你真正入戏之前，花半个小时在角色上
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that you're, you know, expecting.
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你知道，让你开始期待。
10:34
When you look at a movie like "Jaws,"
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当你看电影《大白鲨》的时候，
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the scene that you expect -- we have the screen?
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你期待的场景－－我们看屏幕？
10:38
These are the kind of, you know, scenes that you remember and expect from "Jaws."
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他们有点，你知道，《大白鲨》的这些场景给你造成了一种期望。
10:42
And she's being eaten; there's a shark.
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她被吃掉了；那儿有条鲨鱼。
10:47
The thing about "Jaws" is, it's really about a guy
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其实《大白鲨》真正讲的是一个男人
10:49
who is sort of dealing with his place in the world -- with his masculinity,
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用他自己的方法跟世界沟通－－大男子气概，
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with his family, how he's going to, you know, make it work in this new town.
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跟他的家庭沟通，他最后怎么样？你知道，在这个新城镇里吃的很香。
10:56
This is one of my favorite scenes ever,
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我最喜欢的一个场景，
10:58
and this is a scene that you wouldn't necessarily think of when you think of "Jaws."
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就是当你去想像《大白鲨》你不会想到，
11:01
But it's an amazing scene.
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但又很妙不可言的一个场景。
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Father: C'mere. Give us a kiss.
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父亲：来亲一亲。
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Son: Why?
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儿子：为什么？
12:09
Father: 'Cause I need it.
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父亲：因为我想亲你。
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JJA: C'mon. "Why? 'Cause I need it?" Best scene ever, right?
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JJA: 拜托，“为什么？因为我想亲你？” 最妙的场景，对吗？
12:14
Come on! So you think of "Jaws" --
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拜托！你觉得《大白鲨》－－
12:17
so that's the kind of stuff that, like, you know, the investment of character,
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就是这一类的东西，你知道，角色的这些时间，
12:21
which is the stuff that really is inside the box, you know?
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是你真正在盒子里的东西。你知道吗？
12:24
It's why when people do sequels, or rip off movies, you know, of a genre,
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这就是为什么人们喜欢看续集或者外传，你知道，是一个类型的，
12:27
they're ripping off the wrong thing.
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他们剽窃错误的事情。
12:29
You're not supposed to rip off the shark or the monster.
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你不应该去剽窃鲨鱼或者怪物。
12:31
You gotta rip off -- you know, if you rip something off -- rip off the character.
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你剽窃它，你知道，如果你剽窃一个角色。
12:35
Rip off the stuff that matters. I mean, look inside yourself and figure out what is inside you.
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使用一些其它的东西，我是指，好好想想自己并且明白你心里想的是什么。
12:38
Because ultimately, you know, the mystery box is all of us. So there's that.
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因为最后，你知道，神秘的盒子是我们所有人的。所以它在那儿。
12:43
Then the distribution. What's a bigger mystery box than a movie theater?
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然后是传播。比影院更大的神秘盒子是什么？
12:46
You know? You go to the theater, you're just so excited to see anything.
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知道吗？你去影院的时候，你看什么东西都很兴奋。
12:48
The moment the lights go down is often the best part, you know?
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灯光暗下的那一该往往是最好的时刻，知道吗？
12:51
And you're full of that amazing --
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你会充满那种惊人的－－
12:54
that feeling of excited anticipation.
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参与其中的兴奋的感觉。
12:57
And often, the movie's, like, there and it's going, and then something happens
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然后，这电影开始，然后一些情节发生，
12:59
and you go, "Oh--" and then something else, and you're, "Mmm ..."
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然后你入戏，“哦~~” 然后其它情节跟上，你说“嗯嗯~~”
13:01
Now, when it's a great movie, you're along for the ride
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如果是一个很棒的电影，你会很入戏
13:03
'cause you're willing to give yourself to it.
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因为你希望入戏。
13:05
So to me, whether it's that, whether it's a TV, an iPod, computer, cell phone --
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对我来说都一样，不管是在电视，Ipod，电脑还是手机上。
13:10
it's funny, I'm an -- as I said, Apple fanatic -- and one day, about a year or so ago,
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搞笑的是，我是一个苹果迷－－一年前的某个早晨，
13:14
I was signing on online in the morning to watch Steve Jobs' keynote,
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我正上网去看乔布斯的主题演讲，
13:18
'cause I always do. And he came on, he was presenting the video iPod,
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因为我一直看他的主题演讲。然后他出来了，他展示了Ipod的视频，
13:23
and what was on the enormous iPod behind him?
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猜他身后的很多iPod上放的是什么东西?
13:25
"Lost"! I had no idea! And I realized, holy shit, it'd come full circle.
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《迷失》 我不知道！然后我发现，太牛X了，它会周而复始的出新产品。
13:30
Like, the inspiration I get from the technology is now using the stuff that I do,
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就像是，我从技术上的灵感就是从现有的东西得到的，
13:32
inspired by it, to sell technology. I mean, it's nuts! (Laughter)
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它激励我，去卖技术。我是指，很疯狂！（笑声）
13:36
I was gonna show you a couple of other things I'm gonna skip through.
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我要给你看一些其它的东西，把这段略去。
13:38
I just want to show you one other thing that has nothing to do with anything.
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我只是想让你看另一个东西，和任何事都没啥关联。
13:41
This is something online; I don't know if you've seen it before.
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这是在线的一个视频；我不知道你以前看过没有。
13:43
Six years ago they did this. This is an online thing done by guys
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他们6年前做的这视频。这个在线视频是被一些
13:47
who had some visual effects experience. But the point was,
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有些视觉效果经验的人用计算机做出来的。
13:49
that they were doing things that were using these mystery boxes that they had --
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这点上来讲，他们在使用的神秘的盒子－－
13:53
everyone has now.
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每个人现在都拥有。
13:54
What I've realized is what my grandfather did for me when I was a kid,
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但我意识到我爷爷在我小时候给我做。
13:58
everyone has access to now.
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现在每个人都能用到了。
14:00
You don't need to have my grandfather, though you wished you had.
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即使你希望，但你不是非得有这样的爷爷。
14:02
But I have to tell you -- this is a guy doing stuff on a Quadra 950 computer
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但我告诉你，他当时还玩Quadra 950电脑。
14:06
-- the resolution's a little bit low --
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分辨率有点低－－
14:07
using Infinity software they stopped making 15 years ago.
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使用15年前就停止销售的infinity 软件。
14:10
He's doing stuff that looks as amazing as stuff I've seen released from Hollywood.
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他做的东西看起来相当酷，我看到在好莱坞发布。
14:16
The most incredible sort of mystery, I think, is now the question of what comes next.
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最难以置信的神秘，我觉得，是下一个问题。
14:22
Because it is now democratized. So now, the creation of media is -- it's everywhere.
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因为它是民主化的。现在，媒体无处不在。
14:26
The stuff that I was lucky and begging for to get when I was a kid is now ubiquitous.
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我很幸运并且我小时候想得到的东西现在无处不在。
14:31
And so, there's an amazing sense of opportunity out there.
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于是，那是最令人惊奇的事情.
14:34
And when I think of the filmmakers who exist out there now who would have
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当我想我是电影制作人，以后会保持安静。
14:39
been silenced, you know -- who have been silenced in the past --
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你知道－－过去电影制作人都很安静。
14:42
it's a very exciting thing.
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这是非常令人兴奋的事情。
14:43
I used to say in classes and lectures and stuff,
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我过去常在班里说，你知道，讲座和材料，
14:46
to someone who wants to write, "Go! Write! Do your thing." It's free,
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－－对想写作的人“去！写去！做你的事。” 多自由，
14:49
you know, you don't need permission to go write. But now I can say,
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你知道，你不需要批准才去写作。但现在我可以说，
14:51
"Go make your movie!" There's nothing stopping you
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“去做一个电影！” 没能东西能阻止你
14:53
from going out there and getting the technology.
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从外拍到使用相关的技术。
14:55
You can lease, rent, buy stuff off the shelf
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你可以租，借，买…
14:58
that is either as good, or just as good, as the stuff that's being used by the, you know,
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那相当不错，这些东西被使用为，你知道，
15:04
quote unquote "legit people."
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加引号的合法人士。
15:06
No community is best served when only the elite have control.
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最好的服务不是给社区，而仅仅提供给懂得克制的精英。
15:10
And I feel like this is an amazing opportunity to see what else is out there.
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这是一个特别好的机会出现看看别人。
15:13
When I did "Mission: Impossible III," we had amazing visual effects stuff.
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当我完成《碟中谍3》的时候，我们有很令人吃惊的视觉特效。
15:16
ILM did the effects; it was incredible.
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ILM做的特效；那效果真难以置信！
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And sort of like my dream to be involved.
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有点像我的一个梦。
15:20
And there are a couple of sequences in the movie,
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这个电影里有一连串的镜头，
15:23
like these couple of moments I'll show you.
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我给你看看。
15:31
There's that.
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这就是，
15:52
Okay, obviously I have an obsession with big crazy explosions.
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好吧，很显然我对疯狂大爆炸很困惑。
15:55
So my favorite visual effect in the movie is the one I'm about to show you.
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现在我们看我在这部电影中最喜欢的特效。
15:59
And it's a scene in which Tom's character wakes up. He's drowsy. He's crazy
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是汤姆克鲁斯醒来的镜头。他被麻醉了。
16:01
-- out of it. And the guy wakes up,
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然后这哥们把他弄醒，
16:03
and he shoves this gun in his nose and shoots this little capsule into his brain
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他要用气钉枪塞到他的鼻子里，然后把胶囊射到他的脑子里。
16:06
that he's going to use later to kill him, as bad guys do.
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之后Tom用这玩意把那哥们干掉了，就像坏蛋一样。
16:16
Bad Guy: Good morning.
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坏蛋：早上好。
16:20
JJA: OK, now. When we shot that scene, we were there doing it,
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JJA: 好吧，现在，当我们拍开枪的场景时，我们做的是，
16:22
the actor who had the gun, an English actor, Eddie Marsan -- sweetheart, great guy
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这个拿枪的英国演员，叫Eddie Marsan－－热心肠的好男人
16:26
-- he kept taking the gun and putting it into Tom's nose, and it was hurting Tom's nose.
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他拿着这把枪并放汤姆克鲁斯的鼻子里，然后弄疼了汤姆克鲁斯的鼻子。
16:31
And I learned this very early on in my career: Don't hurt Tom's nose. (Laughter)
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在我职业生涯的早期我就学过：千万别弄伤汤姆克鲁斯的鼻子。（笑声）
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There are three things you don't want to do. Number two is: Don't hurt Tom's nose.
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有三件事情绝对不能干。第二条就是：别弄伤汤姆克鲁斯的鼻子。
16:39
So Eddie has this gun -- and he's the greatest guy -- he's
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所以Eddie拿着这把枪－－ 他也是个好人－－他就像
16:41
this really sweet English guy. He's like, "Sorry, I don't want to hurt you."
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非常贴心的英国男人。他说：“抱歉，我不想伤害你。”
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I'm like -- you gotta -- we have to make this look good.
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我说－－你知道－－我们不得不让电影看起来更逼真一些。
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And I realized that we had to do something 'cause it wasn't working just as it was.
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我意识到我们必须做一些事情来让这个场景更真实。
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And I literally, like, thought back to what I would have done using
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于是我认真的想我们应该怎么去拍
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the Super 8 camera that my grandfather got me sitting in that room,
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用这种爷爷用的Super 8大相机
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and I realized that hand didn't have to be Eddie Marsan's. It could be Tom's.
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然后我意识到，不一样非得是Eddie Marsan的手去握枪。也可以是汤姆克鲁斯的。
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And Tom would know just how hard to push the gun. He wouldn't hurt himself.
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然后汤姆克鲁斯非常用力的拿着枪。他当然不会伤害自己。
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So we took his hand and we painted it to look a little bit more like Eddie's.
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于是我们把他的手画的更像Eddie的手。
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We put it in Eddie's sleeve,
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又把他放在Eddie的袖子里，
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and so the hand that you see -- I'll show you again,
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所以你现在看到的手－－我再给你放一下，
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that's not Eddie's hand, that's Tom's.
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不是Eddier的手，那是汤姆克鲁斯的。
17:12
So Tom is playing two roles. (Laughter)
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所以汤姆克鲁斯演了两个角色。（笑声）
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And he didn't ask for any more money.
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并且他并没有要求多付钱。
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So here, here. Watch it again.
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这里这里，我们再看一遍。
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There he is. He's waking up. He's drowsy, been through a lot.
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这就是他。从昏迷中醒来，昏昏欲睡，受了很多折磨。
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Tom's hand. Tom's hand. Tom's hand. (Laughter) Anyway.
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汤姆克鲁斯的手，汤姆克鲁斯的手。（笑声）
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So.
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所以，
17:34
(Applause)
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谢谢。
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Thanks.
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在电影中你不需要用伟大最牛的技术去实现。
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So you don't need the greatest technology to do things that can work in movies.
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还有神秘的盒子，为纪念我的爷爷，仍然不会打开。
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And the mystery box, in honor of my grandfather, stays closed.
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谢谢你。（掌声）
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Thank you. (Applause)
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
J.J. Abrams - FilmmakerWriter, director and producer J.J. Abrams makes smart, addictive dramas like TV's Lost, and films like Cloverfield and the new Star Trek.
Why you should listen
As the Emmy-winning creator of the smart, addictive TV dramas Lost, Alias and Felicity, J.J. Abrams' name looms large on the small screen. As the writer/director behind the blockbuster explode-a-thon Mission: Impossible III, Cloverfield and the new Star Trek movie, these days Abrams also rules the big screen -- bringing his eye for telling detail and emotional connection to larger-than-life stories.
Abrams' enthusiasm -- for the construction of Kleenex boxes, for the quiet moments between shark attacks in Jaws, for today's filmmaking technologies, and above all for the potent mystery of an unopened package -- is incredibly infectious.
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