ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Chris Abani - Novelist, poet
Imprisoned three times by the Nigerian government, Chris Abani turned his experience into poems that Harold Pinter called "the most naked, harrowing expression of prison life and political torture imaginable." His novels include GraceLand (2004) and The Virgin of Flames (2007).

Why you should listen

Chris Abani's first novel, published when he was 16, was Masters of the Board, a political thriller about a foiled Nigerian coup. The story was convincing enough that the Nigerian government threw him in jail for inciting a coincidentally timed real-life coup. Imprisoned and tortured twice more, he channeled the experience into searing poetry.

Abani's best-selling 2004 novel GraceLand is a searing and funny tale of a young Nigerian boy, an Elvis impersonator who moves through the wide, wild world of Lagos, slipping between pop and traditional cultures, art and crime. It's a perennial book-club pick, a story that brings the postcolonial African experience to vivid life.

Now based in Los Angeles, Abani published The Virgin of Flames in 2007. He is also a publisher, running the poetry imprint Black Goat Press.

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Chris Abani: On humanity

Razmišljanja Krisa Abanija o ljudskosti

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Kris Abani priča priče o ljudima: ljudima koji se suprotstavljaju vojnicima. Ljudima koji saosećaju. Ljudima koji su humani i koji vraćaju svoju humanost. To je, kako sam kaže, "ubuntu": jedini način za mene da budem human jeste da mi vi moju humanost vratite.
- Novelist, poet
Imprisoned three times by the Nigerian government, Chris Abani turned his experience into poems that Harold Pinter called "the most naked, harrowing expression of prison life and political torture imaginable." His novels include GraceLand (2004) and The Virgin of Flames (2007). Full bio

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My searchПретрага is always to find waysначини to chronicleHronika,
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Moja potraga je uvek za načinima da se pohrane,
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to shareОбјави and to documentдокумент storiesприче about people, just everydayсваки дан people.
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podele i dokumentuju priče o ljudima, svakodnevnim ljudima.
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StoriesPriče that offerпонуда transformationтрансформација, that leanнагнути into transcendencetranscendencija,
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Priče koje nude promenu, naginju ka transcendenciji,
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but that are never sentimentalсентиментална,
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ali koje nikada nisu sentimentalne,
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that never look away from the darkestnajtamniji things about us.
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koje nikada ne sklanjanju pogled sa najtamnijih stvari o nama.
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Because I really believe that we're never more beautifulЛепа
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Jer zaista verujem da smo najlepši
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than when we're mostнајвише uglyружно.
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onda kada smo najružniji.
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Because that's really the momentтренутак we really know what we're madeмаде of.
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Jer je to momenat kada zaista znamo od čega smo napravljeni.
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As ChrisKris said, I grewрастао up in NigeriaNigerija
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Kao što je Kris rekao, odrastao sam u Nigeriji
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with a wholeцела generationгенерације -- in the '80s --
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sa čitavom generacijom - u '80-im -
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of studentsстуденти who were protestingпротестујући a militaryвојска dictatorshipdiktatura, whichкоја has finallyконачно endedзавршио.
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studenata koji su protestovali protiv vojne diktature koja se konačno okončala.
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So it wasn'tније just me, there was a wholeцела generationгенерације of us.
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Dakle nisam samo ja bio u pitanju, bila je to čitava generacija.
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But what I've come to learnучи
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Ali ono što sam shvatio
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is that the worldсвет is never savedСачувана in grandгранд messianicmesijanski gesturesгестове,
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jeste da se svet se spašava velikim mesijanskim delima,
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but in the simpleједноставно accumulationакумулација of gentleнежно, softмеко, almostскоро invisibleневидљив actsделује of compassionсаосећање,
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već dugim nizom nežnih, mekanih i skoro nevidljivih dela saosećajnosti,
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everydayсваки дан actsделује of compassionсаосећање.
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svakodnevnim postupcima saosećajnosti.
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In SouthJug AfricaAfrika, they have a phraseфраза calledпозвани UbuntuUbuntu.
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U Južnoj Africi postoji izraz "ubuntu".
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UbuntuUbuntu comesдолази out of a philosophyфилозофија that saysкаже,
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"Ubuntu" dolazi iz učenja koje kaže,
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the only way for me to be humanљудско is for you to reflectодразити
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jedini način da ja budem čovek jeste da
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my humanityчовечанство back at me.
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mi ti vratiš tu moju ljudskost.
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But if you're like me, my humanityчовечанство is more like a windowпрозор.
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Ali ako ste poput mene, moja humanost je više poput prozora.
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I don't really see it, I don't payплатите attentionпажњу to it
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Zapravo je ne vidim, ne obraćam pažnju na nju
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untilсве док there's, you know, like a bugбуг that's deadмртав on the windowпрозор.
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sve dok ne vidim, znate, mrtvu bubu na prozoru.
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Then suddenlyизненада I see it, and usuallyобично, it's never good.
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Odjednom je vidim i obično, nije dobra.
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It's usuallyобично when I'm cussingpsuje in trafficсаобраћај
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Obično onda kada psujem na nekoga u saobraćaju
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at someoneнеко who is tryingпокушавајући to driveпогон theirњихова carауто and drinkпиће coffeeкафу
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ko pokušava da vozi svoj auto i pije kafu
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and sendпошаљи emailsемаилс and make notesбелешке.
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i šalje email i pravi beleške.
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So what UbuntuUbuntu really saysкаже
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Dakle, ono što ubuntu zaista govori
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is that there is no way for us to be humanљудско withoutбез other people.
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jeste da ne postoji način da budemo humani bez drugih ljudi.
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It's really very simpleједноставно, but really very complicatedкомпликован.
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Ustvari je vrlo jednostavno, ali zapravo vrlo komplikovano.
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So, I thought I should startпочетак with some storiesприче.
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Tako sam pomislimo kako bih mogao da počnem sa nekim pričama.
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I should tell you some storiesприче about remarkableизузетно people,
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Trebalo bi da vam ispričam nekoliko priča o značajnim ljudima,
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so I thought I'd startпочетак with my motherмајка.
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pa sam odlučio da počnem sa svojom majkom.
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(LaughterSmeh)
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(smeh)
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And she was darkтамно, too.
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I ona je bila tamna.
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My motherмајка was Englishengleski.
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Bila je engleskinja.
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My parentsродитељи metиспуњен in OxfordOxford in the '50s,
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Moji roditelji su se upoznali u Oksfordu '50-ih,
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and my motherмајка movedпреселила се to NigeriaNigerija and livedживели there.
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i moja majka se preselila u Nigeriju i tamo živela.
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She was fiveпет footстопала two, very feistysvadljiva and very Englishengleski.
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Bila je visoka oko metar šezdeset, vrlo živahna i prava Engleskinja.
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This is how Englishengleski my motherмајка is -- or was, she just passedположио.
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Evo kolika je Engleskinja - ili je bila, nedavno je preminula.
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She cameДошао out to CaliforniaCalifornia, to LosLos AngelesAngelesu, to visitпосетите me,
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Došla je u Kaliforniju, Los Anđeles da me poseti
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and we wentотишао to MalibuMalibu, whichкоја she thought was very disappointingrazočaravajuće.
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i otišli smo u Malibu, za koji je mislila da je razočaravajući.
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(LaughterSmeh)
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(smeh)
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And then we wentотишао to a fishриба restaurantРесторан,
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A onda smo otišli u riblji restoran,
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and we had ChadChad, the surfersurfer dudeBrate, servingслужи us,
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i posluživao nas je Čed, surfer,
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and he cameДошао up and my motherмајка said,
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i došao je, a moja majka je rekla,
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"Do you have any specialsspecijaliteti, youngмлади man?"
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"Mladiću, da li imate neke specijalitete?"
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And ChadChad saysкаже, "Sure, like, we have this, like, salmonlosos,
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A Čed je rekao, "Naravno, kao, imamo taj losos,
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that's, like, rolledprevrnuo in this, like, wasabiwasabi, like, crustKora.
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to je kao rolovano u ovoj kao, kao vasabi, kori.
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It's totallyтотално radrad."
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Ludilo."
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And my motherмајка turnedокренуо се to me and said,
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I moja majka se okrenula i rekla:
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"What languageЈезик is he speakingговорећи?"
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"Na kom jeziku on govori?"
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(LaughterSmeh)
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(smeh)
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I said, "Englishengleski, mumMama."
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Rekao sam: "Na Engleskom, mama."
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And she shookprotresao her headглава and said,
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Protresla je glavom i rekla:
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"Oh, these AmericansAmerikanci. We gaveдала them a languageЈезик,
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"Oh, ovi Amerikanci, dali smo im jezik.
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why don't they use it?"
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Zašto ga ne koriste?"
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(LaughterSmeh)
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(smeh)
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So, this womanжена, who convertedkonvertuje from the ChurchCrkva of EnglandEngleska
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Dakle, ova žena, koje se preobratila iz engleske crkve
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to CatholicismKatolicizam when she marriedожењен my fatherотац --
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u katolicizam kada se udala za mog oca -
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and there's no one more rabidbesni than a CatholicKatolik convertпретворити --
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i nijedan preobrat nije toliko fanatičan kao katolički -
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decidedодлучио to teachнаучити in the ruralсеоски areasобласти in NigeriaNigerija,
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odlučila je da predaje u ruralnim oblastima Nigerije,
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particularlyпосебно amongмеђу IgboIgbo womenЖене,
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naročito među Igbo ženama,
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the BillingsBillings ovulationovulacija methodметода,
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Bilings metod ovulacije,
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whichкоја was the only approvedодобрена birthрођење controlконтрола by the CatholicKatolik ChurchCrkva.
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što je bio jedini odobren vid kontracepcije od strane katoličke crkve.
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But her IgboIgbo wasn'tније too good.
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Ali njen Igbo nije bio previše dobar.
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So she tookузела me alongзаједно to translateпревести.
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Pa je povela mene da joj prevodim.
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I was sevenседам.
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Imao sam sedam godina.
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(LaughterSmeh)
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(smeh)
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So, here are these womenЖене,
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Dakle, tu su te žene,
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who never discussдискутовати theirњихова periodраздобље with theirњихова husbandsmuževi,
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koje nikada sa svojim muževima nisu razgovarale o svojim menstruacijama,
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and here I am tellingговорећи them, "Well, how oftenчесто do you get your periodраздобље?"
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i ja koji im govorim: "Pa, koliko često dobijate menstruaciju?"
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(LaughterSmeh)
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(smeh)
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And, "Do you noticeобјава any dischargesIsprazni struju?"
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I da li je nekada izostala?
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(LaughterSmeh)
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(smeh)
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And, "How swollenотечено is your vulvaStidnica?"
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I koliko je otečena vaša vulva?
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(LaughterSmeh)
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(smeh)
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She never would have thought of herselfона сама as a feministфеминист,
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Nikada ne bi o sebi razmišljala kao o feministkinji,
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my motherмајка, but she always used to say,
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moja majka, ali je uvek govorila,
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"Anything a man can do, I can fixпоправи."
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"Sve što muškarac može da uradi, ja mogu da popravim."
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(ApplauseAplauz)
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(aplauz)
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And when my fatherотац complainedse žalio about this situationситуација,
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I kada se moj otac žalio na ovu situaciju,
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where she's takingузимајући a seven-year-oldsedam godina boyдечко
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gde ona vodi svog sedmogodišnjeg sina
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to teachнаучити this birthрођење controlконтрола, you know,
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da podučava o kontracepciji, znate,
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he used to say, "Oh, you're turningокретање him into --
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imao je običaj da kaže: "Pa ti ga pretvaraš u,
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you're teachingУчити him how to be a womanжена."
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učiš ga kako da bude žena."
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My motherмајка said, "SomeoneNeko has to."
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Moja majka reče: "Neko mora."
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(LaughterSmeh)
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(smeh)
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This womanжена -- duringу току the BiafranBiafran warрат,
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Ova žena - za vreme rata u Bijafri,
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we were caughtухваћен in the warрат.
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bili smo u sred rata.
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It was my motherмајка with fiveпет little childrenдеца.
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Moja majka sa petoro male dece.
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It takes her one yearгодине, throughкроз refugeeизбеглица campкамп after refugeeизбеглица campкамп,
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Bila joj je potrebna godina provlačenja kroz izbegličke kampove,
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to make her way to an airstripPista where we can flyлети out of the countryземљу.
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da dođe do neke piste sa koje možemo da poletimo izvan zemlje.
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At everyсваки singleједно refugeeизбеглица campкамп, she has to faceлице off soldiersвојници
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U svakom od tih izbegličkih kampova, morala je da se suoči sa vojnicima
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who want to take my elderстарији brotherбрате MarkMark, who was nineдевет,
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koji su hteli da odvedu mog starijeg brata Marka, koji je imao devet godina,
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and make him a boyдечко soldierвојник.
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i da naprave od njega dečaka vojnika.
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Can you imagineзамислити this five-foot-twodva 5 metra womanжена,
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Možete li da zamislite ovu metar i po visoku ženu,
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standingстојећи up to menмушкарци with gunsоружје who want to killубиј us?
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kako se suprotstavlja muškarcima sa puškama koji hoće da nas ubiju?
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All throughкроз that one yearгодине,
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Kroz čitavu tu godinu,
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my motherмајка never criedplakao one time, not onceједном.
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moja majka nijednom nije zaplakala, nijednom.
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But when we were in LisbonLisabon, in the airportаеродром,
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Ali kada smo bili u Lisabonu, na aerodromu,
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about to flyлети to EnglandEngleska,
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pred poletanje za Englesku,
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this womanжена saw my motherмајка wearingноси this dressхаљина,
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neka žena je primetila haljinu koju je nosila moja majka,
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whichкоја had been washedопрали so manyмноги timesпута it was basicallyу основи see throughкроз,
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koja je toliko puta bila oprana da je praktično bila providna,
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with fiveпет really hungry-lookingIzgleda gladan kidsклинци,
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sa petoro izgladnele dece,
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cameДошао over and askedпитао her what had happenedдесило.
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došla je i upitala šta se dogodilo.
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And she told this womanжена.
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I ispričala je toj ženi.
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And so this womanжена emptiedispraznio out her suitcasekofer
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I onda je ta žena ispraznila svoj kofer
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and gaveдала all of her clothesОдећа to my motherмајка, and to us,
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i svu odeću poklonila mojoj majci i nama,
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and the toysigračke of her kidsклинци, who didn't like that very much, but --
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i igračke svoje dece, kojima se to nije baš dopalo, ali -
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(LaughterSmeh) --
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(smeh)
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that was the only time she criedplakao.
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To je bio jedini put kada je plakala.
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And I rememberзапамтити yearsгодине laterкасније, I was writingписање about my motherмајка,
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I setio sam se godinama kasnije, kada sam pisao o svojoj majci,
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and I askedпитао her, "Why did you cryплач then?"
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i upitao je: "Zašto si plakala tada?"
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And she said, "You know, you can steelчелик your heartсрце
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Odgovorila je: "Znaš, možeš da zamrzneš svoje srce
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againstпротив any kindкинд of troubleневоље, any kindкинд of horrorхорор.
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protiv svake nevolje, bilo kog terora.
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But the simpleједноставно actчинити of kindnessljubaznost from a completeкомплетан strangerстранац
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Ali jednostavan čin dobrote od potpunog stranca
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will unstitchunstitch you."
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će ga odlediti."
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The oldстари womenЖене in my father'sотац villageсело, after this warрат had happenedдесило,
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Stare žene iz očevog sela, nakog ovog rata,
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memorizedZapamtio the namesимена of everyсваки deadмртав personособа,
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zapamtile su imena svake osobe koja je poginula,
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and they would singпевати these dirgesdirges, madeмаде up of these namesимена.
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i pevale bi žalopojke sastavljene od ovih imena.
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DirgesDirges so melancholicmelanholiиan that they would scorchSkorи you.
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Žalopojke toliko melanholične da bi vas opekle.
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And they would singпевати them only when they plantedзасадјен the riceпиринач,
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I pevale bi ih samo dok su sejale rižu,
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as thoughипак they were seedingсјеме the heartsсрца of the deadмртав
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kao da tako seju srca umrlih
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into the riceпиринач.
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u nju.
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But when it cameДошао for harvestжетва time,
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Ali kada je došlo vreme žetve,
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they would singпевати these joyfulradosni trenuci songsпесме,
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pevale bi te živahne pesme,
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that were madeмаде up of the namesимена of everyсваки childдете
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sastavljene od imena svakog deteta
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who had been bornрођен that yearгодине.
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rođenog te godine.
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And then the nextследећи plantingSadnja seasonгодишње доба, when they sangpevao the dirgemisu za goruжi,
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I onda sledeće sejne sezone, kada bi pevale žalopojke,
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they would removeуклонити as manyмноги namesимена of the deadмртав
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uklonile bi toliko imena mrtvih,
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that equaledjednako as manyмноги people that were bornрођен.
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koliko je dece rođeno.
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And in this way, these womenЖене enactedsproveden a lot of transformationтрансформација,
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I na ovaj način, ove bi žene napravile mnogo promena,
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beautifulЛепа transformationтрансформација.
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prelepih promena.
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Did you know, that before the genocideгеноцид in RwandaRuanda,
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Da li ste znali, da je pre genocida u Ruandi
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the wordреч for rapeсиловање and the wordреч for marriageбрак
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reč za silovanje i reč za brak
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was the sameисти one?
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zapravo bila jedna te ista?
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But todayданас, womenЖене are rebuildingобнова RwandaRuanda.
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Ali danas žene ponovo izgrađuju Ruandu.
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Did you alsoтакође know that after apartheidапартхеид,
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Da li ste isto tako znali da nakon aparthejda,
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when the newново governmentвлада wentотишао into the parliamentпарламент housesкуће,
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kada je nova vlada prešla u parlament,
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there were no femaleзенски пол toiletsтоалети in the buildingзграде?
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nije bilo toaleta za žene u zgradi?
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WhichŠto would seemИзгледа to suggestпредлажем that apartheidапартхеид
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Što bi sugerisalo da je aparthejd
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was entirelyу потпуности the businessбизнис of menмушкарци.
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u potpunosti bio muški posao.
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All of this to say, that despiteупркос the horrorхорор, and despiteупркос the deathсмрт,
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To je sve da istaknem kako uprkos hororu i smrti,
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womenЖене are never really countedбројање.
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žene zapravo nikada nisu ubrajane.
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TheirNjihova humanityчовечанство never seemsИзгледа to matterматерија very much to us.
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Njihova humanost izgleda nam nikada ne znači mnogo.
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When I was growingрастуће up in NigeriaNigerija --
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Dok sam odrastao u Nigeriji -
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and I shouldn'tне би требало say NigeriaNigerija, because that's too generalгенерално,
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i ne bi trebalo da kažem Nigerija, jer je to suviše opširno,
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but in AfikpoAfikpo, the IgboIgbo partдео of the countryземљу where I'm from --
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veću Urhobu, Igbo deo zemlje, odakle potičem,
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there were always ritesритуали of passageпролаз for youngмлади menмушкарци.
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postojali su ti ritualni obredi za mlade momke.
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MenLjudi were taughtнаучио to be menмушкарци in the waysначини in whichкоја we are not womenЖене,
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Muškarci su učeni kako budu muškarci na načine na koje nismo žene
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that's essentiallyУ суштини what it is.
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i to je u suštini to.
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And a lot of ritualsrituali involvedукључени killingубијање, killingубијање little animalsЖивотиње,
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I mnogi rituali su uključivali ubijanje, ubijanje malih životinja,
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progressingnapreduje alongзаједно, so when I turnedокренуо се 13 --
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pa sve većih, tako kada sam napunio 13 -
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and, I mean, it madeмаде senseсмисао, it was an agrarianagrarne communityзаједница,
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i mislim, imalo je smisla, bila je to zemljoradnička zajednica,
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somebodyнеко had to killубиј the animalsЖивотиње,
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neko je morao da ubije životinje,
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there was no WholeCela FoodsHrana you could go and get kangarookengur steakodrezak at --
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nije postojao "Whole Foods" gde ste mogli da kupite šniclu od kengura -
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so when I turnedокренуо се 13, it was my turnред now to killубиј a goatкоза.
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tako da kada sam napunio 13, bio je red na mene da ubijem kozu.
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And I was this weirdчудан, sensitiveосетљив kidклинац, who couldn'tније могао really do it,
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A ja sam bio to čudno, osetljivo dete, koje to nije moglo da učini,
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but I had to do it.
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ali sam morao.
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And I was supposedпретпостављено to do this aloneсами.
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I trebalo je da to uradim sam.
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But a friendпријатељ of mineмој, calledпозвани EmmanuelEmanuel,
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Međutim, moj prijatelj, Emauel,
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who was significantlyзначајно olderстарији than me,
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koji je bio znatno stariji od mene,
08:22
who'dко би been a boyдечко soldierвојник duringу току the BiafranBiafran warрат,
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i bio je dečak vojnik za vreme rata u Bijafri,
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decidedодлучио to come with me.
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odlučio je da krene sa mnom.
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WhichŠto sortврста of madeмаде me feel good,
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Što je na neki način učinilo da se osećam dobro,
08:30
because he'dон би seenвиђено a lot of things.
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jer je on video mnoge stvari.
08:32
Now, when I was growingрастуће up, he used to tell me
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Sad, dok sam odrastao, imao bi običaj da mi priča
08:34
storiesприче about how he used to bayonetbajonet people,
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priče o tome kako bi rasporio ljude bajonetom,
08:36
and theirњихова intestinescreva would fallпасти out, but they would keep runningтрчање.
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i njihova creva bi ispala, ali bi nastavljali da trče.
08:39
So, this guy comesдолази with me.
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Dakle, taj momak krene sa mnom,
08:42
And I don't know if you've ever heardслушао a goatкоза, or seenвиђено one --
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i ne znam da li ste ikada čuli kozu ili je videli -
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they soundзвук like humanљудско beingsбића,
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zvuče poput ljudi,
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that's why we call tragediesтрагедије "a songпесма of a goatкоза."
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zato tragedije zovemo "kozja pesma".
08:50
My friendпријатељ BradBrad KesslerKessler saysкаже that we didn't becomeпостати humanљудско
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Moj prijatelj Bred Kesler kaže da nismo postali ljudi
08:55
untilсве док we startedпочела keepingчување goatsкозе.
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dok nismo počeli da čuvamo koze.
08:57
AnywayIonako, a goat'skoza je eyesочи are like a child'sdete je eyesочи.
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Kako god, kozije oči su poput očiju deteta.
09:02
So when I triedПокушали to killубиј this goatкоза and I couldn'tније могао,
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Tako da kada sam probao da ubijem ovu kozu, i nisam mogao,
09:04
EmmanuelEmanuel bentsavio down, he putsставља his handруку over the mouthуста of the goatкоза,
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Emanuel se nagnuo prema dole, stavio ruke preko kozjih usta,
09:09
coversпокрива its eyesочи, so I don't have to look into them,
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prekrio oči, kako ne bih morao u njih da gledam,
09:12
while I killубиј the goatкоза.
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dok ubijam kozu.
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It didn't seemИзгледа like a lot, for this guy who'dко би seenвиђено so much,
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Nije izgledalo previše zahtevno, za ovog momka koji je toliko toga video,
09:19
and to whomкога the killingубијање of a goatкоза mustмора have seemedизгледало је
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i koji - kojem je ubijanje koze sigurno izgledalo
09:21
suchтаква a quotidiantrese experienceискуство,
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kao sasvim obično iskustvo,
09:23
still foundнашао it in himselfсам to try to protectзаштитити me.
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ipak je probao da me zaštiti.
09:29
I was a wimpSro.
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Bio sam slabić.
09:31
I criedplakao for a very long time.
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Plakao sam još dugo vremena.
09:33
And afterwardsпосле тога, he didn't say a wordреч.
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Nije rekao ni reč nakon toga,
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He just satсат there watchingгледа me cryплач for an hourсат.
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samo je sedeo i gledao me kako plačem čitav sat.
09:37
And then afterwardsпосле тога he said to me,
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Nakon toga mi je rekao,
09:39
"It will always be difficultтешко, but if you cryплач like this everyсваки time,
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da će uvek biti teško, ali ako budem uvek ovoliko plakao,
09:44
you will dieумрети of heartbreakslomljeno srce.
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umreću od infarkta.
09:46
Just know that it is enoughдовољно sometimesпонекад
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Samo biti svestan da je ponekad
09:49
to know that it is difficultтешко."
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dovoljno znati da je teško.
09:54
Of courseкурс, talkingпричају about goatsкозе makesчини me think of sheepовце,
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Naravno, razgovor o kozama me tera da razmišljam o ovcama,
09:57
and not in good waysначини.
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i to ne na dobar način.
09:59
(LaughterSmeh)
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(smeh)
10:01
So, I was bornрођен two daysдана after ChristmasBožić.
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Dakle, rođen sam dva dana nakon Božića.
10:05
So growingрастуће up, you know, I had a cakeторта and everything,
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I dok sam odrastao, znate, imao sam tortu i sve ostalo,
10:08
but I never got any presentsпредставља, because, bornрођен two daysдана after ChristmasBožić.
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ali nikada nisam dobijao poklone, jer - rođen sam dva dana nakon Božića.
10:13
So, I was about nineдевет, and my uncleујак had just come back from GermanyNemačka,
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Dakle, imao sam oko 9, a moj ujak se tek vratio iz Nemačke,
10:16
and we had the CatholicKatolik priestсвештеник over,
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i došao je i katolički sveštenik,
10:19
my motherмајка was entertainingзабавно him with teaчај.
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moja majka ga je zabavljala sa čajem,
10:21
And my uncleујак suddenlyизненада saysкаже, "Where are Chris'Chrisov presentsпредставља?"
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a moj ujak je iznenada rekao: "Gde su Krisovi pokloni?"
10:25
And my motherмајка said, "Don't talk about that in frontфронт of guestsгостима."
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Majka je odgovorila: "Ne spominji to pred gostima."
10:29
But he was desperateочајнички to showсхов that he'dон би just come back,
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Ali bio je očajan da pokaže da se tek vratio,
10:32
so he summonedpozvan me up, and he said,
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pozvao me je i rekao:
10:34
"Go into the bedroomспаваћа соба, my bedroomспаваћа соба.
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"Idi u spavaću sobu, moju spavaću sobu.
10:36
Take anything you want out of the suitcasekofer.
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Uzmi šta god poželiš iz mog kofera.
10:38
It's your birthdayрођендан presentпоклон."
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To je tvoj rođendanski poklon."
10:40
I'm sure he thought I'd take a bookкњига or a shirtкошуља,
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Siguran sam da je pomislio da ću uzeti knjigu ili košulju,
10:42
but I foundнашао an inflatableнадувавање sheepовце.
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ali sam našao ovcu na naduvavanje.
10:45
(LaughterSmeh)
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(smeh)
10:51
So, I blewUpropastio it up and ranтрчао into the livingживи roomсоба,
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Pa sam je naduvao i otrčao u dnevnu sobu,
10:53
my fingerпрст where it shouldn'tне би требало have been,
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sa prstom gde mu nije mesto,
10:55
I was wavingмахање this buzzingзујање sheepовце around,
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i mahao sam tom zviždućom ovcom naokolo,
10:58
and my motherмајка lookedпогледао like she was going to dieумрети of shockшок.
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a moja majka je izgledala kao da će da umre od šoka.
11:01
(LaughterSmeh)
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(smeh)
11:04
And FatherOtac McGetrickMcGetrick was completelyу потпуности unflusteredunflustered,
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A otac MecGetrik je bio potpuno neuzbuđen,
11:07
just stirredizazvao je his teaчај and lookedпогледао at my motherмајка and said,
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mešao svoj čaj i pogledao moju majku i rekao:
11:09
"It's all right DaphneDaphne, I'm ScottishŠkotski."
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"U redu je Dafne, ja sam Škot."
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(LaughterSmeh)
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(smeh)
11:14
(ApplauseAplauz)
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(aplauz)
11:28
My last daysдана in prisonзатвор, the last 18 monthsмесеци,
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Moji poslednji dani u zatvoru, poslednjih 18 meseci,
11:34
my cellmatecimera -- for the last yearгодине, the first yearгодине of the last 18 monthsмесеци --
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moj cimer - tokom poslednje godine, prve godine poslednjih 18 meseci -
11:38
my cellmatecimera was 14 yearsгодине oldстари.
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Moj cimer je imao 14 godina.
11:41
The nameиме was JohnJohn JamesJames,
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Zvao se Džon Džejms,
11:44
and in those daysдана, if a familyпородица memberчлан committedпосвећен a crimeзлочин,
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i u to vreme, ukoliko je član porodice počinio zločin,
11:48
the militaryвојска would holdдржати you as ransomotkup
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vojska bi vas držala kao otkup
11:51
tillдо your familyпородица turnedокренуо се themselvesсами in.
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sve dok se vaša porodica ne preda.
11:53
So, here was this 14-year-old-година стар kidклинац on deathсмрт rowред.
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I tu je bilo to dete od 14 godina, osuđeno na smrt.
11:56
And not everybodyсвима on deathсмрт rowред was a politicalполитички prisonerzatvorenik.
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I nisu svi smrtno osuđeni bili politički zatvorenici -
11:58
There were some really badлоше people there.
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bili su tu i neki zaista loši ljudi.
12:01
And he had smuggledкријумчарено in two comicsstripove, two comicстрип booksкњиге --
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I on je prokrijumčario dva stripa -
12:04
"SpidermanSpiderman" and "X-MenX-Men."
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"Spajdermena" i "X -mena".
12:06
He was obsessedопседнут.
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Bio je opsednut.
12:07
And when he got tiredуморан of readingчитање them,
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I kada se umorio od njihovog čitanja,
12:09
he startedпочела to teachнаучити the menмушкарци in deathсмрт rowред how to readчитати,
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počeo je da uči ljude na smrtnoj kazni da čitaju,
12:13
with these comicстрип booksкњиге.
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uz pomoć ovih stripova.
12:15
And so, I rememberзапамтити night after night,
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I tako, sećam se da bi svake noći,
12:19
you'dти би hearчујеш all these menмушкарци, these really hardenedојачан criminalskriminalci,
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čuli te muškarce, ove tvrdokorne kriminalce,
12:21
huddledzbijena around JohnJohn JamesJames, recitingrecitovanje, "Take that, SpideySpajdi!"
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skupljene oko Džona Džejmsa, kako recituju, "Tako treba, Spajdi!"
12:26
(LaughterSmeh)
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(smeh)
12:28
It's incredibleневероватан.
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Neverovatno je.
12:31
I was really worriedзабринуто.
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Zaista sam bio zabrinut.
12:33
He didn't know what deathсмрт rowред meantмислио.
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Nije znao šta smrtna kazna znači.
12:35
I'd been there twiceдва пута,
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Ja sam bio tu dva puta,
12:37
and I was terriblyстрашно afraidуплашен that I was going to dieумрети.
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i užasno sam se bojao smrti.
12:39
And he would always laughсмех, and say,
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I uvek bi se nasmejao i rekao:
12:41
"Come on, man, we'llдобро make it out."
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"Ma daj čoveče, izvući ćemo se."
12:43
Then I'd say, "How do you know?"
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Onda bih ja rekao: "Kako znaš?"
12:45
And he said, "Oh, I heardслушао it on the grapevinevinova loza."
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A on je rekao: " E, pa saznao sam."
12:49
They killedубијен him.
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Pogubili su ga.
12:51
They handcuffedsa lisicama na rukama him to a chairстолица,
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Zavezali su ga za stolicu
12:54
and they tackednaslagano his penisпенис to a tableсто with a six-inchšest inča nailноктију,
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i zakucali njegov penis za sto ekserom dugim 15 centimetara.
13:00
then left him there to bleedkrvarenje to deathсмрт.
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A onda su ga ostavili da tu iskrvari na smrt.
13:03
That's how I endedзавршио up in solitaryusamljeni, because I let my feelingsосећања be knownпознат.
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Tako sam završio u samoći, jer sam dozvolio mojim osećanjima da se vide.
13:12
All around us, everywhereсвуда, there are people like this.
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Svuda oko nas, svuda, postoje ljudi poput ovih.
13:17
The IgboIgbo used to say that they builtизграђен theirњихова ownвластити godsбогови.
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Igbo narod je imao običaj da kaže da su sagradili sopstvene bogove.
13:23
They would come togetherзаједно as a communityзаједница,
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Došli bi skupa, kao zajednica,
13:25
and they would expressизразити a wishжелети.
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i izrazili želju.
13:28
And theirњихова wishжелети would then be broughtдоведен to a priestсвештеник,
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A onda bi njihova želja bila doneta pred sveštenika
13:30
who would find a ritualритуал objectобјекат,
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koji bi pronašao ritualni objekat,
13:33
and the appropriateприкладан sacrificesžrtve would be madeмаде,
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i odgovarajuće žrtve bi bile prinete,
13:35
and the shrinehram would be builtизграђен for the god.
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i hram za boga bi bio izgrađen.
13:38
But if the god becameпостао unrulyobesni and beganпочела to askпитати for humanљудско sacrificeжртвовање,
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Ali ako bi bog postao neposlušan i tražio ljudsku žrtvu,
13:43
the IgbosIgbos would destroyуништити the god.
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Igboi bi ga uništili.
13:45
They would knockKucaj down the shrinehram,
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Srušili bi hram,
13:48
and they would stop sayingговорећи the god'sБогова nameиме.
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i prestali da izgovaraju božje ime.
13:50
This is how they cameДошао to reclaimповратити theirњихова humanityчовечанство.
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Ovako bi povratili svoju ljudskost.
13:55
EverySvaki day, all of us here,
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Svakoga dana, svi mi ovde,
13:57
we're buildingзграде godsбогови that have goneотишла rampantneobuzdane,
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gradimo bogove koji se osile,
14:00
and it's time we startedпочела knockingkuca them down
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i vreme je da počnemo da ih rušimo
14:03
and forgettingзаборављајући theirњихова namesимена.
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i zaboravljamo njihova imena.
14:06
It doesn't requireзахтевати a tremendousстрашно thing.
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To ne zahteva neverovatnu stvar.
14:09
All it requiresзахтева is to recognizeпрепознати amongмеђу us, everyсваки day --
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Sve što zahteva jeste da prepoznamo među sobom, svakoga dana,
14:13
the fewнеколико of us that can see -- are surroundedокружен by people
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nekoliko nas koji to možemo da vidimo, okruženi smo ljudima
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like the onesоне I've told you.
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poput onih o kojima sam vam pričao.
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There are some of you in this roomсоба, amazingНевероватно people,
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Neki od vas u ovoj sobi, neverovatni ljudi,
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who offerпонуда all of us the mirrorогледало to our ownвластити humanityчовечанство.
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nude nam svima ogledalo da prepoznamo svoju humanost.
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I want to endкрај with a poemпесма by an AmericanAmerikanac poetpesnik calledпозвани LucilleLucille CliftonClifton.
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Želim da završim sa pesmom američke pesnikinje, Lusile Klifton.
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The poemпесма is calledпозвани "LibationUbrzajmo," and it's for my friendпријатељ VusiVusi
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Pesma se zove "Libation" (žrtva livenica) i to je za mog prijatelja Vusija
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who is in the audienceпублика here somewhereнегде.
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koji se nalazi negde u publici.
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"LibationUbrzajmo,
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"Libation",
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NorthSever CarolinaCarolina, 1999.
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Severna Karolina, 1999.
14:47
I offerпонуда to this groundземља, this ginDžin.
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"Nudim ovoj zemlji, ovaj džin.
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I imagineзамислити an oldстари man cryingplakanje here,
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Zamišljam starca kako ovde plače,
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out of the sightвид of the overseernadzornik.
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izvan pogleda čuvara.
15:01
He pushesгура his tongueјезик throughкроз a holeрупа
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Gura svoj jezik kroz rupu
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where his toothzub would be, if he were wholeцела.
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gde bi zub njegov trebalo biti, da je on ceo.
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It achesboli in that spaceпростор where his toothzub would be,
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Boli, tamo gde bi zub trebalo biti,
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where his landземљиште would be,
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gde bi njegova zemlja bila,
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his houseкућа, his wifeжена, his sonсин, his beautifulЛепа daughterћерка.
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njegova kuća, žena, sin, prelepa kći.
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He wipesmaramice sorrowтуга from his faceлице,
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On briše tugu sa svog lica,
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and putsставља his thirstyžedan fingerпрст to his thirstyžedan tongueјезик,
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stavlja svoj žedni prst na svoj žedni jezik,
15:31
and tastesукус the saltсо.
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i oseća so.
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I call a nameиме that could be his.
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Zovem ime koje bi moglo biti njegovo,
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This is for you, oldстари man.
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ovo je za tebe, stari čoveče.
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This ginDžin, this saltyslano earthземља."
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Ovaj džin, ova slana zemlja."
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Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
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(ApplauseAplauz)
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(aplauz)
Translated by Sandra Gojic
Reviewed by Ivana Korom

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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Chris Abani - Novelist, poet
Imprisoned three times by the Nigerian government, Chris Abani turned his experience into poems that Harold Pinter called "the most naked, harrowing expression of prison life and political torture imaginable." His novels include GraceLand (2004) and The Virgin of Flames (2007).

Why you should listen

Chris Abani's first novel, published when he was 16, was Masters of the Board, a political thriller about a foiled Nigerian coup. The story was convincing enough that the Nigerian government threw him in jail for inciting a coincidentally timed real-life coup. Imprisoned and tortured twice more, he channeled the experience into searing poetry.

Abani's best-selling 2004 novel GraceLand is a searing and funny tale of a young Nigerian boy, an Elvis impersonator who moves through the wide, wild world of Lagos, slipping between pop and traditional cultures, art and crime. It's a perennial book-club pick, a story that brings the postcolonial African experience to vivid life.

Now based in Los Angeles, Abani published The Virgin of Flames in 2007. He is also a publisher, running the poetry imprint Black Goat Press.

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