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Nathaniel Kahn: Scenes from "My Architect"
纳撒尼尔·康恩：“我的建筑师”
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纳撒尼尔·康恩分享他所制作的《我的建筑师》中的片段。这部纪录片讲述他如何寻求理解他父亲——传奇建筑师路易斯·康恩，它可以使那些正在探索艺术与爱之联系的人受益匪浅。
Nathaniel Kahn - Filmmaker
Nathaniel Kahn is an Oscar- and Emmy-nominated maker of documentary films. His journey to understand his distant father -- the legendary modern architect Louis Kahn -- became the film "My Architect." Full bio
Nathaniel Kahn is an Oscar- and Emmy-nominated maker of documentary films. His journey to understand his distant father -- the legendary modern architect Louis Kahn -- became the film "My Architect." Full bio
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00:12
One thing I wanted to say about film making is -- about this film --
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关于这部电影的制作，我想说的是——
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in thinking about some of the wonderful talks we've heard here,
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在听了这么多精彩的演讲后，
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Michael Moschen, and some of the talks about music,
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比如迈克尔·莫成，和其他关于音乐的演讲，
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this idea that there is a narrative line,
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其背后有一条故事线索，
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and that music exists in time.
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正如音乐具有时代性，
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A film also exists in time; it's an experience
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电影也有时代性，它是一种体验，
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that you should go through emotionally.
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是情绪上的。
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And in making this film I felt that so many of the documentaries I've seen
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而在制作这部电影的过程中，
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were all about learning something,
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我意识到过去所看到的很多纪录片，
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or knowledge, or driven by talking heads, and driven by ideas.
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不是关于求知，就是很理性的思考。
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And I wanted this film to be driven by emotions,
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但我希望这部电影能跟着情绪走，
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and really to follow my journey.
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真正跟随我的足迹。
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So instead of doing the talking head thing, instead it's composed of scenes,
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所以，不同于以往那种喋喋不休的纪录片，它由生活的一幕幕组成，
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and we meet people along the way.
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讲述途中与我们邂逅的人们。
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We only meet them once.
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他们在片子里只出现一次。
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They don't come back several times, so it really chronicles a journey.
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没有回放，就像一部按时间顺序写成的游记。
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It's something like life, that once you get in it
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这就好像人生，一旦开始，
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you can't get out.
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就没办法回头。
01:02
There are two clips I want to show you,
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我想给你们看两个片段，
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the first one is a kind of hodgepodge,
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第一个是个大杂烩，
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its just three little moments, four little moments
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它包含三个，四个小片段，
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with three of the people who are here tonight.
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其中的三个人今晚也在场。
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It's not the way they occur in the film,
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他们是碰巧出现在影片中的，
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because they are part of much larger scenes.
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因为他们有更重要的事。
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They play off each other in a wonderful way.
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但他们一唱一和，非常完美。
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And that ends with a little clip of my father, of Lou,
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最后是我父亲——路易的一个片段，
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talking about something that is very dear to him,
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他讲述了对他来说很重要的东西，
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which is the accidents of life.
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那就是生活中的意外。
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I think he felt that the greatest things in life were accidental,
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他认为生命中最伟大的事都是出于意外的，
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and perhaps not planned at all.
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从来不是计划好的。
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And those three clips will be followed by a scene of
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三个短片之后
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perhaps what, to me, is really his greatest building
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是孟加拉国达卡城内那栋大楼的场景，
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which is a building in Dhaka, Bangladesh.
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在我看来那是他最伟大的作品。
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He built the capital over there.
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他在那里建造了一座首都。
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And I think you'll enjoy this building, it's never been seen --
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我相信你们会喜欢这个建筑的，它从未被曝光过。
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it's been still photographed, but never photographed by a film crew.
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它一直以来只出现在照片中，从未有摄像团队对它进行过拍摄。
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We were the first film crew in there.
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我们是第一个在那里的摄像团队。
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So you'll see images of this remarkable building.
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你将看到这座令人叹为观止的建筑。
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A couple of things to keep in mind when you see it,
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当你看到它的时候，请记住
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it was built entirely by hand,
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它是完全用工人的双手建起来的。
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I think they got a crane the last year.
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他们最后一年才启用起重机。
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It was built entirely by hand off bamboo scaffolding,
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它是工人们在竹制脚手架上，
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people carrying these baskets of concrete on their heads,
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头顶一桶桶混凝土，
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dumping them in the forms.
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用双手建成的。
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It is the capital of the country,
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那是这个国家的首都，
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and it took 23 years to build,
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历经23年才建造完成，
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which is something they seem to be very proud of over there.
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之后便成为当地人的骄傲，
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It took as long as the Taj Mahal.
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它和泰姬陵花费了一样长的时间。
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Unfortunately it took so long that Lou never saw it finished.
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但可惜的是，路易未能亲眼看到它完成。
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He died in 1974.
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他于1974年去世。
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The building was finished in 1983.
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大楼于1983年竣工。
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So it continued on for many years
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工程在他去世之后
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after he died.
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又进行了好多年。
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Think about that when you see that building,
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当你看到这大楼的时候，
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that sometimes the things we strive for so hard in life we never get to see finished.
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想像一下我们为它倾尽毕生的心血，却不能目睹它的完成。
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And that really struck me about my father,
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最触动我的
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in the sense that he had such belief
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是我父亲的那种信仰，
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that somehow, doing these things
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以他特有的方式去投入这些事，
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giving in the way that he gave, that something good would come out of it,
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相信最后可以取得成就。
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even in the middle of a war, there was a war with Pakistan at one point,
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即使在孟加拉和巴基斯坦陷入战争时，
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and the construction stopped totally and he kept working,
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工程不得不暂停，但他还是坚持他的工作，
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because he felt, "Well when the war is done
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因为他相信，“战争会结束，
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they'll need this building."
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他们会需要这座建筑。“
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So, those are the two clips I'm going to show.
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接下来就是我要为大家展现的两个片段。
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Roll that tape.
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开始吧。
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(Applause)
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03:14
Richard Saul Wurman: I remember hearing him talk at Penn.
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理查德·索尔·沃尔曼：我记得在宾夕法尼亚大学听他讲课。
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And I came home and I said to my father and mother,
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回到家后我对父母说，
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"I just met this man: doesn't have much work,
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”我刚刚遇到一个人，看起来无所事事，
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and he's sort of ugly, funny voice,
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其貌不扬，声音古怪，
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and he's a teacher at school.
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他是我们的老师。
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I know you've never heard of him, but just mark this day
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你们也许从未听说过他，但请记住这一天，
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that someday you will hear of him,
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终有一天他会出名的，
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because he's really an amazing man."
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因为他真的是一个令人惊叹的人。"
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Frank Gehry: I heard he had some kind of a fling with Ingrid Bergman. Is that true?
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弗兰克·盖里：我听说他和英格丽·褒曼有过一段艳遇，是真的么？
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Nathaniel Kahn: If he did he was a very lucky man.
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纳撒尼尔·康恩：如果那是真的，那么他很幸运。
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(Laughter)
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（笑）
03:48
NK: Did you hear that, really?
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康恩：你真的听说了？
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FG: Yeah, when he was in Rome.
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盖里：是的，当他在罗马的时候。
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Moshe Safdie: He was a real nomad.
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摩西·萨夫迪：他是个真正的浪子。
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And you know, when I knew him when I was in the office,
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我在他的办公室第一次认识他，
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he would come in from a trip, and he would be in the office
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他可能刚刚旅行回来，
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for two or three days intensely, and he would pack up and go.
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也许就会在办公室里连续呆两三天，然后打包再出发。
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You know he'd be in the office till three in the morning working with us
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他会在办公室里和我们一起工作直到3点，
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and there was this kind of sense of the nomad in him.
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而他骨子里是个浪子。
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I mean as tragic as his death was in a railway station,
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这很有悲剧色彩，就如同他在火车站的死亡一样，
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it was so consistent with his life, you know?
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他的生活就是这样，你明白么？
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I mean I often think I'm going to die in a plane,
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我经常想像自已死在飞机上，
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or I'm going to die in an airport,
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或者是机场，
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or die jogging without an identification on me.
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或者在慢跑的时候死去，连确认身份的方法都没有。
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I don't know why I sort of carry that
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不知什么原因，
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from that memory of the way he died.
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从他去世之后我一直有这样的念头。
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But he was a sort of a nomad at heart.
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他是个彻头彻尾的浪子。
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Louis Kahn: How accidental our existences are really
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路易·康恩：人生充满意外，
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and how full of influence by circumstance.
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并且受到周围的影响。
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Man: We are the morning workers who come, all the time, here
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路人：我们早上总是过来这边散步，
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and enjoy the walking, city's beauty and the atmosphere
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城市很美，环境很好，
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and this is the nicest place of Bangladesh.
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这是孟加拉国最美的地方。
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We are proud of it.
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我们很自豪。
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NK: You're proud of it?
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康恩：你们感到自豪？
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Man: Yes, it is the national image of Bangladesh.
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路人：是的，这是孟加拉国的标志。
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NK: Do you know anything about the architect?
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康恩：你知道这个建筑师么？
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Man: Architect? I've heard about him; he's a top-ranking architect.
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路人：建筑师？我听说过他。
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NK: Well actually I'm here because I'm the architect's son,
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康恩：其实我是他的儿子，
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he was my father.
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他是我父亲。
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Man: Oh! Dad is Louis Farrakhan?
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路人：哦！你父亲是路易·法拉康恩？
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NK: Yeah. No not Louis Farrakhan, Louis Kahn.
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康恩：恩。不是路易·法拉康恩，是路易·康恩。
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Man: Louis Kahn, yes!
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路人：路易·康恩，是的！
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(Laughter)
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（笑）
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Man: Your father, is he alive?
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路人：你父亲还健在么？
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NK: No, he's been dead for 25 years.
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康恩：他去世已有25年了。
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Man: Very pleased to welcome you back.
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路人：欢迎你回来。
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NK: Thank you.
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康恩：谢谢。
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NK: He never saw it finished, Pop.
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康恩：他未能看到它竣工，
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No, he never saw this.
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他没有看到。
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Shamsul Wares: It was almost impossible, building for a country like ours.
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沙姆斯·维尔斯：在我们这样的国家搞建设几乎是不可能的。
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In 30, 50 years back, it was nothing, only paddy fields,
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50年以前这里除了稻田什么都没有，
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and since we invited him here,
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而自从我们邀请他到来之后，
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he felt that he has got a responsibility.
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他就感到身负重任。
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He wanted to be a Moses here, he gave us democracy.
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他想要成为这里的摩西，他要给我们带来民主。
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He is not a political man,
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他并不是政客，
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but in this guise he has given us
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但他却通过自己的方式
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the institution for democracy, from where we can rise.
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给我们带来了民主，从此我们站起来了。
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In that way it is so relevant.
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这十分重要。
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He didn't care for how much money this country has,
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他并不在乎这个国家是多么穷困，
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or whether he would be able to ever finish this building,
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也不在乎他能否完成这座大楼，
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but somehow he has been able to do it, build it, here.
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但他最终做到了，他完成了它，在这个国家。
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And this is the largest project he has got in here, the poorest country in the world.
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这是他最伟大的项目，在这个世上最穷的国家。
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NK: It cost him his life.
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康恩：他为此献出生命。
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SW: Yeah, he paid. He paid his life for this,
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维尔斯：是的，他为此付出生命。
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and that is why he is great and we'll remember him.
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这正是他的伟大之处，我们也会为此铭记他。
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But he was also human.
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但他毕竟是个凡人，
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Now his failure to satisfy the family life,
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牺牲了他的家庭。
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is an inevitable association of great people.
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此于伟人，无可避免。
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But I think his son will understand this,
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但我相信他的儿子能够理解，
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and will have no sense of grudge,
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而不至于去怨恨，
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or sense of being neglected, I think.
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或感到被忽略。
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He cared in a very different manner,
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他的关爱与众不同，
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but it takes a lot of time to understand that.
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这需要时间才能理解。
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In social aspect of his life
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在社交上，
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he was just like a child, he was not at all matured.
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他就像的小孩，并不成熟。
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He could not say no to anything,
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他从不能说“不”，
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and that is why, that he cannot say no to things,
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也正因如此，
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we got this building today.
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我们今天才有了这座建筑。
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You see, only that way you can be able to understand him.
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只有这样，你才能够去理解他。
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There is no other shortcut,
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没有捷径可走，
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no other way to really understand him.
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没有其他方法去理解他。
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But I think he has given us this building
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他给了我们这座建筑，
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and we feel all the time for him,
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我们一直很感激他，
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that's why, he has given love for us.
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他给了我们爱。
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He could not probably give the right kind of love for you,
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他可能无法给你足够的父爱，
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but for us, he has given the people the right kind of love,
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但为我们，他给了我们全心全意的关爱，
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that is important.
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这很重要。
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You have to understand that.
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你必须明白。
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He had an enormous amount of love,
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他相当博爱，
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he loved everybody.
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他爱每一个人。
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To love everybody, he sometimes did not see
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而为了爱每个人，
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the very closest ones,
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他有时候却忽略了最亲近的人，
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and that is inevitable for men of his stature.
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这是像他这样的人所无法避免的。
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(Applause)
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(观众鼓掌)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Nathaniel Kahn - FilmmakerNathaniel Kahn is an Oscar- and Emmy-nominated maker of documentary films. His journey to understand his distant father -- the legendary modern architect Louis Kahn -- became the film "My Architect."
Why you should listen
The architect Louis Kahn was known for formally brilliant modern buildings, but his personal life was utterly baroque: married with one child, he had two other children by two other women. His only son, Nathaniel, met him rarely; Louis died when Nathaniel was only 11. Nathaniel grew up to become a playwright and documentary filmmaker -- he worked on such award-winning films as 1996's My Father's Garden and Canary of the Ocean.
His 2002 film My Architect traveled the world to uncover the mysteries of his father, looking for clues in Louis Kahn's body of work, in his work relationships and his personal ones. It's a film with meaning to anyone who seeks to understand the relationship between art and love. After My Architect, Kahn directed the Oscar- and Emmy-nominated 2004 documentary Two Hands, about the pianist Leon Fleischer, and produced a mockumental look at the director M. Night Shyamalan.
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