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Nathaniel Kahn: Scenes from "My Architect"
薩尼康〈我的建築師〉
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薩尼康透過紀錄片〈我的建築師〉，追思已故的父親：傳奇建築師-路易斯康。這部紀錄片道出一段愛與藝術的動人故事
Nathaniel Kahn - Filmmaker
Nathaniel Kahn is an Oscar- and Emmy-nominated maker of documentary films. His journey to understand his distant father -- the legendary modern architect Louis Kahn -- became the film "My Architect." Full bio
Nathaniel Kahn is an Oscar- and Emmy-nominated maker of documentary films. His journey to understand his distant father -- the legendary modern architect Louis Kahn -- became the film "My Architect." Full bio
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00:12
One thing I wanted to say about film making is -- about this film --
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談這部電影前
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in thinking about some of the wonderful talks we've heard here,
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先回想過去的精彩演講
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Michael Moschen, and some of the talks about music,
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像是雜耍大師莫成 或跟音樂有關的
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this idea that there is a narrative line,
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都提到音樂背後有個故事
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and that music exists in time.
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音樂具有時代性
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A film also exists in time; it's an experience
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其實,電影也有時代性,是種體驗
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that you should go through emotionally.
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要投入情感去體會
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And in making this film I felt that so many of the documentaries I've seen
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這部紀錄片有別以往的是
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were all about learning something,
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以往紀錄片多是知識性的
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or knowledge, or driven by talking heads, and driven by ideas.
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不是專家談話,就是多面向分析
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And I wanted this film to be driven by emotions,
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但這部紀錄片跟著情緒走
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and really to follow my journey.
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實際紀錄我的探索旅程
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So instead of doing the talking head thing, instead it's composed of scenes,
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沒有專家,而是紀錄各種畫面
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and we meet people along the way.
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和形形色色
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We only meet them once.
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萍水相逢的人們
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They don't come back several times, so it really chronicles a journey.
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因此這部紀錄片如旅行記事
00:57
It's something like life, that once you get in it
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就像人生,一旦踏上旅途
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you can't get out.
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就沒辦法回頭
01:02
There are two clips I want to show you,
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接下來兩支短片
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the first one is a kind of hodgepodge,
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第一支有點像大雜燴
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its just three little moments, four little moments
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集結三,四個小片段
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with three of the people who are here tonight.
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畫面中三位人士今天有到場
01:12
It's not the way they occur in the film,
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但拍攝時我們完全沒安排
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because they are part of much larger scenes.
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我們的相遇完全是巧合
01:16
They play off each other in a wonderful way.
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但卻相輔相成,恰到好處
01:19
And that ends with a little clip of my father, of Lou,
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最後則是我父親的錄像
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talking about something that is very dear to him,
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他在影片中說道,此生最重視的
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which is the accidents of life.
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莫過於人生中的種種意外
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I think he felt that the greatest things in life were accidental,
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生命中最美好的事,都是機緣巧合
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and perhaps not planned at all.
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完全在計畫之外
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And those three clips will be followed by a scene of
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三個片段最後各位將看到
01:35
perhaps what, to me, is really his greatest building
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我心目中父親最偉大的建築
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which is a building in Dhaka, Bangladesh.
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它位於孟加拉達卡
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He built the capital over there.
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是該國的國會議堂
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And I think you'll enjoy this building, it's never been seen --
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相信會讓各位眼睛一亮
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it's been still photographed, but never photographed by a film crew.
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這棟建築過去只出現在照片上
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We were the first film crew in there.
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我們是首批來錄影的小組
01:52
So you'll see images of this remarkable building.
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影片將呈現這棟蘶峨的建築
01:55
A couple of things to keep in mind when you see it,
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觀賞影片時請記住幾點
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it was built entirely by hand,
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這棟建築完全手工打造
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I think they got a crane the last year.
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最後一年才有起重機
02:03
It was built entirely by hand off bamboo scaffolding,
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因此全靠工人爬上竹製鷹架蓋成
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people carrying these baskets of concrete on their heads,
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工人頭頂水泥桶
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dumping them in the forms.
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灌進模板構築骨幹
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It is the capital of the country,
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它是孟加拉的政治中心
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and it took 23 years to build,
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花了23年才竣工
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which is something they seem to be very proud of over there.
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當地人似乎皆引以為傲
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It took as long as the Taj Mahal.
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工程耗時可比泰姬瑪哈陵
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Unfortunately it took so long that Lou never saw it finished.
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只可惜那時父親已不在世
02:23
He died in 1974.
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他逝世於1974年
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The building was finished in 1983.
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而建築直到1983年才完成
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So it continued on for many years
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因此,工程持續直到完工
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after he died.
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即使建築師早已與世長辭
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Think about that when you see that building,
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欣賞這棟建築時,請試想
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that sometimes the things we strive for so hard in life we never get to see finished.
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有人窮盡畢生耕耘,卻等不及收穫
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And that really struck me about my father,
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我父親就是個例子
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in the sense that he had such belief
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父親一生秉持的信念是
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that somehow, doing these things
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追求夢想時
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giving in the way that he gave, that something good would come out of it,
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不惜豁出一切,這樣美夢就會成真
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even in the middle of a war, there was a war with Pakistan at one point,
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就算正值孟加拉獨立戰爭
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and the construction stopped totally and he kept working,
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工程無法進行,他仍堅持不懈
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because he felt, "Well when the war is done
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他深信 戰爭結束後
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they'll need this building."
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人們會需要這棟建築
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So, those are the two clips I'm going to show.
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接下來請各位欣賞這兩支短片
03:03
Roll that tape.
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請看
03:06
(Applause)
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(掌聲)("我的建築師" TED12精選片段)
03:14
Richard Saul Wurman: I remember hearing him talk at Penn.
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(資訊建築師理查伍爾曼)我還記得在賓大聽他講課
03:17
And I came home and I said to my father and mother,
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一回到家,我便告訴爸媽
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"I just met this man: doesn't have much work,
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我遇到一個人,他看起來無所事事
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and he's sort of ugly, funny voice,
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其貌不揚,聲音很怪
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and he's a teacher at school.
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是我們學校裡的老師
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I know you've never heard of him, but just mark this day
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他現在沒沒無聞,但有朝一日
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that someday you will hear of him,
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他一定會名聲遠播
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because he's really an amazing man."
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因為他真的與眾不同
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Frank Gehry: I heard he had some kind of a fling with Ingrid Bergman. Is that true?
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(建築大師法蘭克蓋瑞) 聽說他跟英格麗褒曼暗有來往?
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Nathaniel Kahn: If he did he was a very lucky man.
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(薩尼康) 若是真的，父親真是艷福不淺
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(Laughter)
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(笑)
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NK: Did you hear that, really?
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(薩) 真有此說?
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FG: Yeah, when he was in Rome.
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(蓋瑞) 是啊，聽說是在羅馬的時候
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Moshe Safdie: He was a real nomad.
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(建築師莫塞薩夫迪) 他是不折不扣的浪子
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And you know, when I knew him when I was in the office,
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跟他一起共事的時候
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he would come in from a trip, and he would be in the office
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他會突然遠遊歸來,出現在辦公室
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for two or three days intensely, and he would pack up and go.
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待沒兩三天,又打包走人
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You know he'd be in the office till three in the morning working with us
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他會留到凌晨三點,一起熬夜工作
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and there was this kind of sense of the nomad in him.
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他就是這麼個浪子
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I mean as tragic as his death was in a railway station,
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連死都要死在火車站
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it was so consistent with his life, you know?
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終其一生表裡如一,對吧？
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I mean I often think I'm going to die in a plane,
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我常想,說不定我會死在飛機上
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or I'm going to die in an airport,
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或死在機場裡
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or die jogging without an identification on me.
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或跑步中途斷氣身亡,成了無名屍
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I don't know why I sort of carry that
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我會這麼想
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from that memory of the way he died.
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多半是想起康的死
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But he was a sort of a nomad at heart.
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但他確實是位真性情的浪子
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Louis Kahn: How accidental our existences are really
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(路易斯康) 人的一生本就意外連連
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and how full of influence by circumstance.
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無時無刻不受周遭影響 (孟加拉恆河)
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Man: We are the morning workers who come, all the time, here
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(路人) 我們常早上來這裡
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and enjoy the walking, city's beauty and the atmosphere
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走路運動,欣賞風景,享受時光
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and this is the nicest place of Bangladesh.
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這是孟加拉最美的地方
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We are proud of it.
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我們很引以為傲
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NK: You're proud of it?
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(薩) 你們很引以為傲?
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Man: Yes, it is the national image of Bangladesh.
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(路人) 沒錯,這是孟加拉的精神指標
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NK: Do you know anything about the architect?
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(薩) 你們知道建築師是誰嗎?
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Man: Architect? I've heard about him; he's a top-ranking architect.
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(路人) 建築師?我知道是有位建築師
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NK: Well actually I'm here because I'm the architect's son,
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(薩) 其實我是這位建築師的兒子
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he was my father.
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他是我父親
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Man: Oh! Dad is Louis Farrakhan?
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(路人) 喔,你爸是路易斯富拉康?
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NK: Yeah. No not Louis Farrakhan, Louis Kahn.
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(薩) 是,但不是路易斯富拉康,是路易斯康
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Man: Louis Kahn, yes!
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(路人) 喔對,是路易斯康
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(Laughter)
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(笑)
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Man: Your father, is he alive?
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(路人) 你爸還活著?
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NK: No, he's been dead for 25 years.
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(薩) 不,去世25年了
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Man: Very pleased to welcome you back.
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(路人) 很高興你能回來
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NK: Thank you.
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(薩) 謝謝
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NK: He never saw it finished, Pop.
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(薩) 波普,他沒看過完工的樣子
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No, he never saw this.
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從沒看過
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Shamsul Wares: It was almost impossible, building for a country like ours.
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(山蘇威爾斯) 簡直不可能在孟加拉蓋這種建築
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In 30, 50 years back, it was nothing, only paddy fields,
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50年前,這裡除了稻田,一無所有
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and since we invited him here,
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不過既然他受邀前來
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he felt that he has got a responsibility.
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他就覺得自己附有使命
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He wanted to be a Moses here, he gave us democracy.
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要作我們的先知,帶來民主
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He is not a political man,
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他不熱衷政治
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but in this guise he has given us
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卻仍為孟加拉蓋了這棟
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the institution for democracy, from where we can rise.
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民主的殿堂,立國的根基
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In that way it is so relevant.
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對我們而言意義深遠
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He didn't care for how much money this country has,
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他不在意孟加拉資金有限
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or whether he would be able to ever finish this building,
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也不在乎蓋不蓋得成
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but somehow he has been able to do it, build it, here.
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但他真的做到了
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And this is the largest project he has got in here, the poorest country in the world.
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艱鉅的工程在最窮的國家完成
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NK: It cost him his life.
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(薩) 他用生命換來的
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SW: Yeah, he paid. He paid his life for this,
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(山蘇威爾斯) 是啊,真的是用生命換來的
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and that is why he is great and we'll remember him.
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也因此,他的偉大我們永不忘記
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But he was also human.
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當然,人不是完美的
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Now his failure to satisfy the family life,
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他沒顧好家庭生活
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is an inevitable association of great people.
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偉人往往都有此缺憾
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But I think his son will understand this,
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但我相信,他的兒子能諒解
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and will have no sense of grudge,
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不再有一絲埋怨
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or sense of being neglected, I think.
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不再覺得自己被忽略
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He cared in a very different manner,
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他只是關心的方式不同
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but it takes a lot of time to understand that.
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要花些時間才能理解
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In social aspect of his life
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社交生活方面
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he was just like a child, he was not at all matured.
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他就像個孩子,一點也不成熟
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He could not say no to anything,
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不懂得拒絕
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and that is why, that he cannot say no to things,
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但也因為他不擅拒絕
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we got this building today.
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我們才有這棟建築
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You see, only that way you can be able to understand him.
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這是瞭解他唯一最好的方式
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There is no other shortcut,
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從別的角度
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no other way to really understand him.
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都無法真正瞭解他
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But I think he has given us this building
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但我想,他給我們這棟建築
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and we feel all the time for him,
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我們對他只有無限感激
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that's why, he has given love for us.
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或許那是他愛我們的方式
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He could not probably give the right kind of love for you,
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這樣的愛對你來說或許沒意義
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but for us, he has given the people the right kind of love,
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對我們來說卻意義深重
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that is important.
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這點相當重要
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You have to understand that.
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你必須要能瞭解
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He had an enormous amount of love,
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他心存大愛
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he loved everybody.
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普愛眾人
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To love everybody, he sometimes did not see
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因而也忽視了
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the very closest ones,
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身邊最親密的人
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and that is inevitable for men of his stature.
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但這是全天下偉人都會犯的錯誤
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(Applause)
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(掌聲)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Nathaniel Kahn - FilmmakerNathaniel Kahn is an Oscar- and Emmy-nominated maker of documentary films. His journey to understand his distant father -- the legendary modern architect Louis Kahn -- became the film "My Architect."
Why you should listen
The architect Louis Kahn was known for formally brilliant modern buildings, but his personal life was utterly baroque: married with one child, he had two other children by two other women. His only son, Nathaniel, met him rarely; Louis died when Nathaniel was only 11. Nathaniel grew up to become a playwright and documentary filmmaker -- he worked on such award-winning films as 1996's My Father's Garden and Canary of the Ocean.
His 2002 film My Architect traveled the world to uncover the mysteries of his father, looking for clues in Louis Kahn's body of work, in his work relationships and his personal ones. It's a film with meaning to anyone who seeks to understand the relationship between art and love. After My Architect, Kahn directed the Oscar- and Emmy-nominated 2004 documentary Two Hands, about the pianist Leon Fleischer, and produced a mockumental look at the director M. Night Shyamalan.
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