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Nathaniel Kahn: Scenes from "My Architect"
Nathaniel Kahn o "Mom arhitektu"
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Nathaniel Kahn prikazuje isječke iz svog dokumentarca "Moj arhitekt", o svom pohodu da razumije svog oca, legendarnog arhitekta Louisa Kahna. To je film sa značenjem za svakoga tko traži razumijevanje između umjetnosti i ljubavi.
Nathaniel Kahn - Filmmaker
Nathaniel Kahn is an Oscar- and Emmy-nominated maker of documentary films. His journey to understand his distant father -- the legendary modern architect Louis Kahn -- became the film "My Architect." Full bio
Nathaniel Kahn is an Oscar- and Emmy-nominated maker of documentary films. His journey to understand his distant father -- the legendary modern architect Louis Kahn -- became the film "My Architect." Full bio
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00:12
One thing I wanted to say about film making is -- about this film --
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Jedna stvar koju želim reći o snimanju filmova -- o tom filmu --
00:15
in thinking about some of the wonderful talks we've heard here,
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u razmišljanju o nekim od prekrasnih govora koje smo čuli ovdje,
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Michael Moschen, and some of the talks about music,
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Michael Moschen, i neki od govora o glazbi,
00:21
this idea that there is a narrative line,
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je ta ideja kako postoji pripovjedačka linija,
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and that music exists in time.
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i kako glazba postoji u vremenu.
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A film also exists in time; it's an experience
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Film isto tako postoji u vremenu, to je iskustvo
00:30
that you should go through emotionally.
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kroz koje biste trebali proći emocionalno.
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And in making this film I felt that so many of the documentaries I've seen
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A u izradi ovog filma osjećao sam kako su mnogi dokumentarni filmovi koje sam vidio
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were all about learning something,
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bili o učenju nečega,
00:38
or knowledge, or driven by talking heads, and driven by ideas.
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ili znanja, ili potaknuti glavama koje govore, i potaknuti idejama.
00:42
And I wanted this film to be driven by emotions,
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I želio sam da ovaj film bude potaknut osjećajima,
00:45
and really to follow my journey.
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i da doista slijedi moje putovanje.
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So instead of doing the talking head thing, instead it's composed of scenes,
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Dakle, umjesto glava koje govore, on je sastavljen od scena,
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and we meet people along the way.
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i mi susreće ljude duž našeg puta.
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We only meet them once.
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Srećemo ih samo jednom.
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They don't come back several times, so it really chronicles a journey.
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Oni se ne vraćaju natrag više puta, pa stoga to doista bilježi putovanje.
00:57
It's something like life, that once you get in it
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To je nešto poput života, jednom kada uđeš u njega
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you can't get out.
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ne možeš izaći van.
01:02
There are two clips I want to show you,
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Postoje dva video isječka koja vam želim pokazati,
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the first one is a kind of hodgepodge,
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prvi je neka vrsta čudne mješavine,
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its just three little moments, four little moments
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to je samo tri mala trenutka, četiri mala trenutka
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with three of the people who are here tonight.
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s tri osobe koje su večeras ovdje.
01:12
It's not the way they occur in the film,
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Nije način na koji se pojavljuju u filmu,
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because they are part of much larger scenes.
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jer su oni dio mnogo većih prizora.
01:16
They play off each other in a wonderful way.
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Oni izigravaju jedan drugoga na prekrasan način.
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And that ends with a little clip of my father, of Lou,
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A to završava s malim video isječkom mog oca, Lou-a,
01:21
talking about something that is very dear to him,
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koji priča o nečemu što je njemu vrlo drago,
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which is the accidents of life.
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a to su životne zgode.
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I think he felt that the greatest things in life were accidental,
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Mislim kako je osjećao kako su najveće stvari u životu slučajne,
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and perhaps not planned at all.
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i možda uopće nisu planirane.
01:31
And those three clips will be followed by a scene of
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A nakon ta tri isječka će slijediti prizor
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perhaps what, to me, is really his greatest building
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nečega što je po meni, njegova uistinu najbolja građevina
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which is a building in Dhaka, Bangladesh.
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a to je zgrada u Dhaki, Bangladešu.
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He built the capital over there.
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On je tamo izgradio glavni grad.
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And I think you'll enjoy this building, it's never been seen --
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I mislim kako ćete uživati u toj zgradi, nikada nije bila viđena,
01:44
it's been still photographed, but never photographed by a film crew.
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još uvijek se fotografira, ali nikada je nije fotografirala filmska ekipa.
01:49
We were the first film crew in there.
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Mi smo bili prva filmska ekipa tamo unutra.
01:52
So you'll see images of this remarkable building.
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Dakle, vidjet ćete snimke te izvanredne zgrade.
01:55
A couple of things to keep in mind when you see it,
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Par stvari koje trebate imati na umu kada je vidite,
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it was built entirely by hand,
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jest kako je u potpunosti izgrađena ručno,
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I think they got a crane the last year.
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mislim kako su prošle godine dobili dizalicu.
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It was built entirely by hand off bamboo scaffolding,
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U potpunosti je ručno izgrađena na skelama od bambusa,
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people carrying these baskets of concrete on their heads,
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i ljudi koji nose te košare betona na svojim glavama,
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dumping them in the forms.
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i odlažu ih u kalupe.
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It is the capital of the country,
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To je glavni grad zemlje,
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and it took 23 years to build,
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i trebalo je 23 godine da se izgradi,
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which is something they seem to be very proud of over there.
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što je nešto na što su tamo jako ponosni.
02:18
It took as long as the Taj Mahal.
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Trajalo je jednako dugo kao i izgradnja Taj Mahala.
02:20
Unfortunately it took so long that Lou never saw it finished.
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Nažalost, gradnja je trajala toliko dugo da Lou nikada nije dočekao završetak.
02:23
He died in 1974.
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Umro je 1974. godine.
02:26
The building was finished in 1983.
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Zgrada je završena 1983. godine.
02:29
So it continued on for many years
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Dakle, gradnja je nastavljena mnogo godina
02:31
after he died.
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nakon što je on umro.
02:34
Think about that when you see that building,
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Razmislite o tome kada vidite tu zgradu,
02:36
that sometimes the things we strive for so hard in life we never get to see finished.
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kako nekada stvari kojima težimo toliko marljivo cijeli život, nikada ne vidimo završene.
02:40
And that really struck me about my father,
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I to me doista pogodilo o mom ocu,
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in the sense that he had such belief
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na način da je imao takvo uvjerenje
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that somehow, doing these things
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kako će nekako, radeći te stvari,
02:48
giving in the way that he gave, that something good would come out of it,
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dajući na način na koji je on davao, kako će nešto dobro proizaći iz toga,
02:51
even in the middle of a war, there was a war with Pakistan at one point,
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čak i usred rata, u jednom trenutku vodio se rat s Pakistanom,
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and the construction stopped totally and he kept working,
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i gradnja je u potpunosti stala a on je nastavio raditi,
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because he felt, "Well when the war is done
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jer je osjećao, "Pa, kada rat završi,
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they'll need this building."
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trebat će im ova zgrada."
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So, those are the two clips I'm going to show.
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Dakle, to su dva video isječka koja vam želim pokazati.
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Roll that tape.
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Zavrtite tu vrpcu.
03:06
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
03:14
Richard Saul Wurman: I remember hearing him talk at Penn.
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Richard Saul Wurman: Sjećam se slušajući ga kako priča na Penn Sveučilištu.
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And I came home and I said to my father and mother,
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I došao sam doma i rekao svom ocu i majci,
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"I just met this man: doesn't have much work,
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"Upravo sam upoznao tog čovjeka, nema puno posla,
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and he's sort of ugly, funny voice,
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i ima prilično ružan, smiješan glas,
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and he's a teacher at school.
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i on je profesor na Sveučilištu.
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I know you've never heard of him, but just mark this day
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Znam kako nikada niste čuli o njemu, ali obilježite ovaj dan
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that someday you will hear of him,
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kako ćete jednom čuti za njega,
03:35
because he's really an amazing man."
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jer on je doista izniman čovjek."
03:38
Frank Gehry: I heard he had some kind of a fling with Ingrid Bergman. Is that true?
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Frank Gehry: Čuo sam kako je imao neku vrstu afere s Ingrid Bergman. Je li to istina?
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Nathaniel Kahn: If he did he was a very lucky man.
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Nathaniel Kahn: Ukoliko jest, on je bio doista sretan čovjek.
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
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NK: Did you hear that, really?
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NK: jeste li to čuli, doista?
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FG: Yeah, when he was in Rome.
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FG: Da, kada sam bio u Rimu.
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Moshe Safdie: He was a real nomad.
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Moshe Safdie: On je bio pravi nomad.
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And you know, when I knew him when I was in the office,
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I znaš, kada sam ga poznavao kada sam bio u uredu,
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he would come in from a trip, and he would be in the office
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on bi se vratio s puta, i ostao bi u uredu
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for two or three days intensely, and he would pack up and go.
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intenzivno dva ili tri dana, i zatim bi se ponovno spakirao i otišao.
04:02
You know he'd be in the office till three in the morning working with us
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Znaš, on bi bio u uredu sve do tri ujutro radeći s nama
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and there was this kind of sense of the nomad in him.
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i postojao je taj osjećaj prisutnosti skitnice u njemu.
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I mean as tragic as his death was in a railway station,
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Mislim, koliko god njegova smrt na željezničkoj pruzi bila tragična,
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it was so consistent with his life, you know?
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bila je toliko dosljedna njegovu životu, znaš?
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I mean I often think I'm going to die in a plane,
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Mislim, ja često razmišljam kako ću umrijeti u avionu,
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or I'm going to die in an airport,
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ili ću umrijeti na aerodromu,
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or die jogging without an identification on me.
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ili ću umrijeti trčeći bez ikakve identifikacije na sebi.
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I don't know why I sort of carry that
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Ne znam zašto nosim to
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from that memory of the way he died.
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kao sjećanje na način na koji je umro.
04:28
But he was a sort of a nomad at heart.
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Ali u srcu je bio neka vrsta skitnice.
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Louis Kahn: How accidental our existences are really
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Louis Kahn: Koliko slučajna su uistinu naša postojanja
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and how full of influence by circumstance.
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i koliko puna utjecaja okolnosti.
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Man: We are the morning workers who come, all the time, here
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Čovjek: Mi smo jutarnji radnici koji dolaze, cijelo vrijeme, ovdje
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and enjoy the walking, city's beauty and the atmosphere
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i uživamo u šetnji, gradskoj ljepoti i atmosferi
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and this is the nicest place of Bangladesh.
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i ovo je najljepše mjesto u Bangladešu.
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We are proud of it.
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Ponosni smo na to mjesto.
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NK: You're proud of it?
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NK: Ponosni ste?
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Man: Yes, it is the national image of Bangladesh.
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Čovjek: Da, to je nacionalna slika Bangladeša.
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NK: Do you know anything about the architect?
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NK: Znate li išta o arhitektu?
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Man: Architect? I've heard about him; he's a top-ranking architect.
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Čovjek: Arhitektu? Čuo sam kako je on [nejasno] arhitekt.
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NK: Well actually I'm here because I'm the architect's son,
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NK: Pa, zapravo ja sam ovdje jer sam ja sin arhitekta,
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he was my father.
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on je bio moj otac.
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Man: Oh! Dad is Louis Farrakhan?
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Čovjek: O! Otac je Loius Farrakhan?
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NK: Yeah. No not Louis Farrakhan, Louis Kahn.
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NK: Da. Ne nije Louis Farrakhan, Louis Kahn.
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Man: Louis Kahn, yes!
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Čovjek: Louis Kahn, da!
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
06:41
Man: Your father, is he alive?
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Čovjek: Vaš otac, je li živ?
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NK: No, he's been dead for 25 years.
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NK: Ne, mrtav je već 25 godina.
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Man: Very pleased to welcome you back.
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Čovjek: Vrlo nam je drago što ste se vratili.
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NK: Thank you.
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NK: Hvala vam.
07:30
NK: He never saw it finished, Pop.
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NK: On nikada nije vidio završetak gradnje, Pop.
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No, he never saw this.
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Ne, nikada nije vidio ovo.
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Shamsul Wares: It was almost impossible, building for a country like ours.
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Shamsul Wares: Bilo je gotovo nemoguće, graditi za zemlju poput naše,
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In 30, 50 years back, it was nothing, only paddy fields,
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jer prije 50 godina, nije bilo ničega, samo rižina polja,
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and since we invited him here,
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a kako smo ga pozvali ovamo,
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he felt that he has got a responsibility.
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osjećao je kako ima odgovornost.
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He wanted to be a Moses here, he gave us democracy.
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On je želio ovdje biti Mojsije, dao nam je demokraciju.
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He is not a political man,
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On nije političar,
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but in this guise he has given us
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ali pod tom krinkom nam je dao
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the institution for democracy, from where we can rise.
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tu instituciju za demokraciju, iz koje se možemo uzdići.
08:20
In that way it is so relevant.
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U tom smislu je jako važna.
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He didn't care for how much money this country has,
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On nije mario koliko novca ova zemlja ima,
08:26
or whether he would be able to ever finish this building,
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ili hoće li ikada uspijeti završiti gradnju ove zgrade,
08:29
but somehow he has been able to do it, build it, here.
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ali nekako mu je uspjelo, izgraditi je, ovdje.
08:32
And this is the largest project he has got in here, the poorest country in the world.
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A ovo je najveći projekt koji je imao, upravo ovdje, u najsiromašnijoj zemlji svijeta.
08:37
NK: It cost him his life.
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NK: Stajala ga je života.
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SW: Yeah, he paid. He paid his life for this,
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SW: Da, platio je. Platio je životom za ovo,
08:42
and that is why he is great and we'll remember him.
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i upravo zato je on velik i mi ćemo ga se sjećati.
08:46
But he was also human.
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Ali ujedno je bio čovjek,
08:48
Now his failure to satisfy the family life,
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sada njegov neuspjeh da zadovolji obiteljski život,
08:53
is an inevitable association of great people.
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je bila neizbježna asocijacija velikih ljudi.
08:56
But I think his son will understand this,
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Ali mislim kako će njegov sin to razumijeti,
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and will have no sense of grudge,
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i neće imati nikakvu zamjerku,
09:01
or sense of being neglected, I think.
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ili osjećaj zanemarenosti, mislim.
09:04
He cared in a very different manner,
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On je mario na vrlo drugačiji način,
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but it takes a lot of time to understand that.
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ali potrebno je mnogo vremena kako bi se to razumijelo.
09:09
In social aspect of his life
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U društvenom aspektu svog života,
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he was just like a child, he was not at all matured.
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on je bio poput djeteta, nije uopće sazrio.
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He could not say no to anything,
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Nije mogao reći ne ničemu,
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and that is why, that he cannot say no to things,
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i zato, zbog toga što nije mogao reći ne stvarima,
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we got this building today.
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imamo ovu zgradu danas.
09:23
You see, only that way you can be able to understand him.
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Vidite, samo na taj način, moći ćete ga razumijeti.
09:26
There is no other shortcut,
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Ne postoji nijedan drugi prečac,
09:29
no other way to really understand him.
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niti jedan drugi način da ga se uistinu razumije.
09:32
But I think he has given us this building
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Ali mislim, kako nam je dao tu zgradu
09:40
and we feel all the time for him,
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i stalno imamo osjećaje prema njemu,
09:42
that's why, he has given love for us.
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zato jer je dao ljubav za nas.
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He could not probably give the right kind of love for you,
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Možda vama nije dao pravu vrstu ljubavi,
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but for us, he has given the people the right kind of love,
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ali nama, dao je nama ljudima pravu vrstu ljubavi,
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that is important.
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i to je važno.
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You have to understand that.
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Morate shvatiti to.
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He had an enormous amount of love,
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Imao je ogromnu količinu ljubavi,
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he loved everybody.
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sve je volio.
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To love everybody, he sometimes did not see
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Kako je sve volio, nekada nije primjetio
10:03
the very closest ones,
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svoje najbliže,
10:06
and that is inevitable for men of his stature.
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a to je neizbježno za ljude njegova ugleda.
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(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Nathaniel Kahn - FilmmakerNathaniel Kahn is an Oscar- and Emmy-nominated maker of documentary films. His journey to understand his distant father -- the legendary modern architect Louis Kahn -- became the film "My Architect."
Why you should listen
The architect Louis Kahn was known for formally brilliant modern buildings, but his personal life was utterly baroque: married with one child, he had two other children by two other women. His only son, Nathaniel, met him rarely; Louis died when Nathaniel was only 11. Nathaniel grew up to become a playwright and documentary filmmaker -- he worked on such award-winning films as 1996's My Father's Garden and Canary of the Ocean.
His 2002 film My Architect traveled the world to uncover the mysteries of his father, looking for clues in Louis Kahn's body of work, in his work relationships and his personal ones. It's a film with meaning to anyone who seeks to understand the relationship between art and love. After My Architect, Kahn directed the Oscar- and Emmy-nominated 2004 documentary Two Hands, about the pianist Leon Fleischer, and produced a mockumental look at the director M. Night Shyamalan.
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