TEDGlobal 2012
Ruby Wax: What's so funny about mental illness?
Ruby Wax: Zašto su mentalne bolesti tako smiješne?
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Bolesti tijela izazivaju suosjećanje, kaže komičarka Ruby Wax -- osim onih vezanih uz mozak. Zašto je to tako? Uz nevjerojatnu energiju i humor, Wax, kojoj je prije deset godina dijagnosticirana klinička depresija, poziva nas da stanemo na kraj stigmatizaciji mentalnih bolesti.
Ruby Wax - Comedian and Mental Health Activist
Ruby Wax is a loud, funny woman -- who spent much of her comedy career battling depression in silence. Now her work blends mental health advocacy and laughs. Full bio
Ruby Wax is a loud, funny woman -- who spent much of her comedy career battling depression in silence. Now her work blends mental health advocacy and laughs. Full bio
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00:15
One in four people suffer from some sort of mental illness,
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Jedno od četvero ljudi pati
od neke mentalne bolesti.
od neke mentalne bolesti.
00:19
so if it was one, two, three, four, it's you, sir.
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Jedan, dva, tri, četiri, to ste vi, gospodine.
00:24
You. Yeah. (Laughter)
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Vi. Da. (Smijeh)
00:25
With the weird teeth. And you next to him. (Laughter)
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S čudnim zubima. I vi kraj njega. (Smijeh)
00:29
You know who you are.
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Znate koji ste.
00:30
Actually, that whole row isn't right. (Laughter)
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Zapravo, taj cijeli red nije u redu. (Smijeh)
00:32
That's not good. Hi. Yeah. Real bad. Don't even look at me. (Laughter)
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To nije dobro. Bok. Da. Vrlo loše.
Nemojte me ni gledati. (Smijeh)
Nemojte me ni gledati. (Smijeh)
00:37
I am one of the one in four. Thank you.
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Ja sam jedna od onih "jedan od četvero". Hvala.
00:42
I think I inherit it from my mother, who,
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Mislim da sam to naslijedila od majke
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used to crawl around the house on all fours.
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koja je znala puzati po kući na sve četiri.
00:48
She had two sponges in her hand, and then she had two
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Imala je dvije spužve u ruci
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tied to her knees. My mother was completely absorbent. (Laughter)
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i dvije vezane za koljena.
Moja majka upijala je sve oko sebe. (Smijeh)
Moja majka upijala je sve oko sebe. (Smijeh)
00:56
And she would crawl around behind me going,
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Puzala bi oko mene govoreći:
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"Who brings footprints into a building?!"
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"Tko unosi otiske stopala u zgradu?"
01:02
So that was kind of a clue that things weren't right.
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To je dalo naslutiti da stvari nisu u redu.
01:04
So before I start, I would like to thank
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Prije nego počnem, htjela bih zahvaliti
01:09
the makers of Lamotrigine, Sertraline, and Reboxetine,
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proizvođačima Lamotrigina, Sertralina i Reboxetina
01:14
because without those few simple chemicals, I would not be vertical today.
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jer bez tih jednostavnih kemikalija
ne bih ovdje danas stajala.
ne bih ovdje danas stajala.
01:19
So how did it start?
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Kako je započelo?
01:24
My mental illness -- well, I'm not even going to talk about my mental illness.
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Moja mentalna bolest -- neću ni govoriti
o svojoj mentalnoj bolesti.
o svojoj mentalnoj bolesti.
01:28
What am I going to talk about? Okay.
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O čemu ću govoriti? U redu.
01:30
I always dreamt that, when I had my final breakdown,
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Uvijek sam sanjala da, kad budem imala konačni slom,
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it would be because I had a deep Kafkaesque
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da će to biti jer sam imala kafkijansko
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existentialist revelation,
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egzistencijalističko otkrivenje
01:39
or that maybe Cate Blanchett would play me and she would win an Oscar for it. (Laughter)
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i da će me možda glumiti Cate Blanchett
i dobiti Oscara za to. (Smijeh)
i dobiti Oscara za to. (Smijeh)
01:44
But that's not what happened. I had my breakdown
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Ali nije bilo tako. Imala sam slom živaca
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during my daughter's sports day.
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tijekom sportskog natjecanja svoje kćeri.
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There were all the parents sitting in a parking lot
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Svi su roditelji sjedili na parkiralištu
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eating food out of the back of their car -- only the English --
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i jeli hranu iz prtljažnika
svojih auta -- samo Englezi --
svojih auta -- samo Englezi --
01:57
eating their sausages. They loved their sausages. (Laughter)
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jeli su kobasice. Oni vole
svoje kobasice. (Smijeh)
svoje kobasice. (Smijeh)
02:03
Lord and Lady Rigor Mortis were nibbling on the tarmac,
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Lord i lady Rigor Mortis grickali su asfalt,
02:07
and then the gun went off and all the girlies started running,
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a tad je pištolj opalio
i sve su djevojčice počele trčati,
i sve su djevojčice počele trčati,
02:10
and all the mummies went, "Run! Run Chlamydia! Run!" (Laughter)
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a sve su majke vikale:
"Trči! Trči, Klamidijo! Trči!" (Smijeh)
"Trči! Trči, Klamidijo! Trči!" (Smijeh)
02:15
"Run like the wind, Veruca! Run!"
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"Trči kao vjetar, Bradavice! Trči!"
02:19
And all the girlies, girlies running, running, running,
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I sve su djevojčice trčale, trčale, trčale,
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everybody except for my daughter, who was just standing
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sve osim moje kćeri, koja je samo stajala
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at the starting line, just waving,
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na startnoj liniji, mašući,
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because she didn't know she was supposed to run.
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jer nije znala da treba trčati.
02:30
So I took to my bed for about a month, and when I woke up
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Pa sam zalegla u krevet na mjesec dana,
a kad sam se probudila
a kad sam se probudila
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I found I was institutionalized, and when I saw the other inmates,
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otkrila sam da sam smještena u bolnicu,
a kad sam vidjela druge pacijente,
a kad sam vidjela druge pacijente,
02:38
I realized that I had found my people, my tribe. (Laughter)
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shvatila sam da sam pronašla
svoje ljude, svoje pleme. (Smijeh)
svoje ljude, svoje pleme. (Smijeh)
02:43
Because they became my only friends, they became my friends,
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Oni su postali moji jedini prijatelji,
postali su moji prijatelji,
postali su moji prijatelji,
02:46
because very few people that I knew -- Well, I wasn't
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jer vrlo je malen broj ljudi koje sam poznavala --
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sent a lot of cards or flowers. I mean, if I had had a broken leg
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nisam dobila mnogo čestitki ni cvijeća.
Mislim, da sam slomila nogu
Mislim, da sam slomila nogu
02:53
or I was with child I would have been inundated,
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ili da sam bila trudna bila bih zatrpana njima,
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but all I got was a couple phone calls telling me to perk up.
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ali sve što sam dobila bilo je par poziva
s porukom da se malo živnem.
s porukom da se malo živnem.
02:59
Perk up.
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Živnem.
03:00
Because I didn't think of that. (Laughter)
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Jer ja se toga nisam sjetila. (Smijeh)
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(Laughter) (Applause)
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(Smijeh) (Pljesak)
03:08
Because, you know, the one thing, one thing that you get with this disease,
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Znate, jedna od stvari koje dođu s ovom bolešću,
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this one comes with a package, is you get a real sense of shame,
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to dolazi u paketu, jest osjećaj posramljenosti.
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because your friends go, "Oh come on, show me the lump,
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Vaši prijatelji govore: "Ma daj, pokaži mi kvržicu,
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show me the x-rays," and of course you've got nothing to show,
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pokaži mi rendgenske snimke",
a vi, naravno, nemate što pokazati
a vi, naravno, nemate što pokazati
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so you're, like, really disgusted with yourself because you're thinking,
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pa se gadite sami sebi jer mislite:
03:24
"I'm not being carpet-bombed. I don't live in a township."
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"Ne bombardiraju me. Ne živim u siromaštvu."
03:27
So you start to hear these abusive voices, but you don't hear one abusive voice,
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Počinjete čuti te uvredljive glasove,
ali ne čujete jedan uvredljiv glas,
ali ne čujete jedan uvredljiv glas,
03:31
you hear about a thousand -- 100,000 abusive voices,
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već njih oko tisuću -- 100.000 uvredljivih glasova,
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like if the Devil had Tourette's, that's what it would sound like.
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kao kad bi vrag imao
Touretteov sindrom, tako bi to zvučalo.
Touretteov sindrom, tako bi to zvučalo.
03:37
But we all know in here, you know, there is no Devil,
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Ali svi znamo da nema vraga,
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there are no voices in your head.
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nema glasova u vašoj glavi.
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You know that when you have those abusive voices,
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Kad imate te uvredljive glasove,
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all those little neurons get together and in that little gap
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skupe se svi oni mali neuroni i u toj maloj praznini
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you get a real toxic "I want to kill myself" kind of chemical,
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dobijete zaista otrovnu kemikaliju od koje se želite ubiti,
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and if you have that over and over again on a loop tape,
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a ako to doživljavate neprekidno,
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you might have yourself depression.
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mogli biste dobiti depresiju.
03:55
Oh, and that's not even the tip of the iceberg.
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A to nije ni vrh ledene sante.
03:58
If you get a little baby, and you abuse it verbally,
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Ako dobijete dijete i verbalno ga zlostavljate,
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its little brain sends out chemicals that are so destructive
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njegov mali mozak šalje kemikalije
koje su tako destruktivne
koje su tako destruktivne
04:05
that the little part of its brain that can tell good from bad just doesn't grow,
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da mali dijelovi njegova mozga koji razlikuju
dobro od lošeg jednostavno ne rastu
dobro od lošeg jednostavno ne rastu
04:09
so you might have yourself a homegrown psychotic.
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pa si doma možete uzgojiti psihopata.
04:12
If a soldier sees his friend blown up, his brain goes into
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Ako vojnik vidi kako njegovog prijatelja
raznese mina, njegov se mozak
raznese mina, njegov se mozak
04:15
such high alarm that he can't actually put the experience into words,
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tako uznemiri da ne može iskustvo pretočiti u riječi
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so he just feels the horror over and over again.
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pa samo opet i opet iznova osjeća užas.
04:22
So here's my question. My question is, how come
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Ovdje dolazi moje pitanje. Moje je pitanje kako to
04:24
when people have mental damage, it's always an active imagination?
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da se ljude s mentalnim oštećenjima
uvijek tretira kao da imaju bujnu maštu?
uvijek tretira kao da imaju bujnu maštu?
04:28
How come every other organ in your body can get sick
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Kako to da svaki drugi organ u vašm tijelu može oboljeti
04:31
and you get sympathy, except the brain?
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i dobit ćete sućut, osim ako se radi o mozgu?
04:34
I'd like to talk a little bit more about the brain,
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Voljela bih još malo govoriti o mozgu
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because I know you like that here at TED,
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jer znam da to volite ovdje na TED-u
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so if you just give me a minute here, okay.
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pa mi dajte samo tren, može?
04:42
Okay, let me just say, there's some good news.
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Samo bih vam rekla
da ima dobrih vijesti.
da ima dobrih vijesti.
04:44
There is some good news. First of all, let me say,
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Ima dobrih vijesti. Kao prvo,
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we've come a long, long way.
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daleko smo dogurali, daleko.
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We started off as a teeny, teeny little one-celled amoeba,
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Počeli smo kao sićušna, mala jednostanična ameba,
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tiny, just sticking onto a rock, and now, voila, the brain.
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malena, zalijepljena na kamen,
a sad, voilà, mozak!
a sad, voilà, mozak!
04:58
Here we go. (Laughter)
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Eto ga. (Smijeh)
05:00
This little baby has a lot of horsepower.
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Ovaj mali ima puno konjskih snaga.
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It comes completely conscious. It's got state-of-the-art lobes.
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Dolazi posve svjestan. Ima najsuvremenije režnjeve.
05:07
We've got the occipital lobe so we can actually see the world.
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Imamo zatiljni režanj da bismo mogli vidjeti svijet.
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We got the temporal lobe so we can actually hear the world.
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Imamo sljepoočni režanj da možemo čuti svijet.
05:13
Here we've got a little bit of long-term memory,
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Ovdje imamo nešto dugotrajnog pamćenja
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so, you know that night you want to forget, when you got really drunk? Bye-bye! Gone. (Laughter)
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pa, znate onu noć koju želite zaboraviti, kad ste se
jako napili? Doviđenja! Nestalo! (Smijeh)
jako napili? Doviđenja! Nestalo! (Smijeh)
05:20
So actually, it's filled with 100 billion neurons
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Popunjen je sa 100 milijardi neurona
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just zizzing away, electrically transmitting information,
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koji samo zuje električno prenoseći informacije,
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zizzing, zizzing. I'm going to give you a little side view here.
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zuje i zuje. Dat ću vam bočni pogled.
05:29
I don't know if you can get that here. (Laughter)
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Ne znam vidite li to odatle. (Smijeh)
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So, zizzing away, and so — (Laughter) —
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Pa, zujeći, i tako -- (Smijeh) --
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And for every one — I know, I drew this myself. Thank you.
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A za svaki -- Znam, sama sam to nacrtala. Hvala.
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For every one single neuron, you can actually have
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Za svaki neuron možemo imati
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from 10,000 to 100,000 different connections
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od 10 do 100 tisuća različitih veza
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or dendrites or whatever you want to call it, and every time
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ili dendrita ili kako ih već zovete, a svaki put
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you learn something, or you have an experience,
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kad nešto naučite ili iskusite,
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that bush grows, you know, that bush of information.
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taj grm raste, grm informacija.
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Can you imagine, every human being is carrying
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Možete li zamisliti da
svako ljudsko biće nosi tu opremu,
svako ljudsko biće nosi tu opremu,
05:59
that equipment, even Paris Hilton? (Laughter)
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čak i Paris Hilton? (Smijeh)
06:04
Go figure.
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Tko bi rekao.
06:06
But I got a little bad news for you folks. I got some bad news.
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Ali imam i malo loših vijesti
ljudi. Imam loše vijesti.
ljudi. Imam loše vijesti.
06:09
This isn't for the one in four. This is for the four in four.
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To nije za jednog od četiri. To je za četiri od četiri.
06:12
We are not equipped for the 21st century.
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Nismo opremljeni za 21. stoljeće.
06:16
Evolution did not prepare us for this. We just don't have the bandwidth,
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Evolucija nas nije pripremila za ovo.
Mi nemamo propusnost,
Mi nemamo propusnost,
06:20
and for people who say, oh, they're having a nice day,
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a ljudi koji kažu da lijepo provode dan,
06:23
they're perfectly fine, they're more insane than the rest of us.
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da su savršeno u redu -- oni su luđi od nas ostalih.
06:26
Because I'll show you where there might be a few glitches
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Pokazat ću vam gdje bi mogli biti neki propusti
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in evolution. Okay, let me just explain this to you.
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u evoluciji. U redu, evo da vam objasnim.
06:31
When we were ancient man — (Laughter) —
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Kad smo bili špiljski ljudi -- (Smijeh) --
06:35
millions of years ago, and we suddenly felt threatened
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prije nekoliko milijuna godina i kad smo osjetili
06:39
by a predator, okay? — (Laughter) —
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da smo u opasnosti od predatora, u redu? -- (Smijeh) --
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we would — Thank you. I drew these myself. (Laughter)
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mi bismo -- Hvala vam, sama sam to crtala. (Smijeh)
06:45
Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. (Applause)
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Hvala vam puno. Hvala. Hvala. (Pljesak)
06:49
Thank you. Anyway, we would fill up with our own adrenaline
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Hvala. Dakle, napunili bismo se adrenalinom
06:53
and our own cortisol, and then we'd kill or be killed,
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i kortizolom i onda bismo ubili ili bili ubijeni,
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we'd eat or we'd be eaten, and then suddenly we'd de-fuel,
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pojeli ili bili pojedeni te bi se tad iznenada iscrpili
06:59
and we'd go back to normal. Okay.
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i vratili u normalu.
07:01
So the problem is, nowadays, with modern man— (Laughter) —
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A problem, danas, s modernim čovjekom -- (Smijeh) --
07:06
when we feel in danger, we still fill up with our own chemical
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kad osjetimo da smo u opasnosti,
još uvijek se punimo vlastitim kemikalijama,
još uvijek se punimo vlastitim kemikalijama,
07:10
but because we can't kill traffic wardens — (Laughter) —
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ali zato što ne možemo ubiti prometnike -- (Smijeh) --
07:15
or eat estate agents, the fuel just stays in our body
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ili pojesti agente nekretninama,
gorivo ostaje u našem tijelu,
gorivo ostaje u našem tijelu,
07:19
over and over, so we're in a constant state of alarm,
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i tako stalno, pa smo neprestano u stanju uznemirenosti,
07:22
a constant state. And here's another thing that happened.
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to je stalno stanje. I još se jedna stvar dogodila.
07:24
About 150,000 years ago, when language came online,
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Prije 150.000 godina, kad se pojavio jezik,
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we started to put words to this constant emergency,
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počeli smo dodavati riječi toj stalnoj alarmiranosti,
07:29
so it wasn't just, "Oh my God, there's a saber-toothed tiger,"
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pa to nije bilo samo: "O Bože, eno sabljastog tigra",
07:32
which could be, it was suddenly, "Oh my God, I didn't send the email. Oh my God, my thighs are too fat.
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nego je to odjednom postalo: "O Bože, nisam poslao mail.
O Bože, bedra su mi predebela."
O Bože, bedra su mi predebela."
07:36
Oh my God, everybody can see I'm stupid. I didn't get invited to the Christmas party!"
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O Bože, svi vide da sam glup.
Nisu me pozvali na božićnu zabavu!"
Nisu me pozvali na božićnu zabavu!"
07:40
So you've got this nagging loop tape that goes
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Postoji ta dosadna petlja koja se neprestano vrti
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over and over again that drives you insane, so,
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i izluđuje vas.
07:45
you see what the problem is? What once made you safe
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Vidite u čemu je problem?
Što nas je nekad činilo sigurnima,
Što nas je nekad činilo sigurnima,
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now drives you insane.
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sada nas izluđuje.
07:50
I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but somebody has to be.
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Žao mi je što nosim loše vijesti, ali netko i to mora.
07:53
Your pets are happier than you are. (Laughter)
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Vaši ljubimci sretniji su od vas. (Smijeh)
07:59
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
08:02
So kitty cat, meow, happy happy happy, human beings, screwed. (Laughter)
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Mica maca, mijau -- sretna sretna sretna;
ljudska bića -- zeznuta. (Smijeh)
ljudska bića -- zeznuta. (Smijeh)
08:07
Completely and utterly -- so, screwed.
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Potpuno i sasvim -- zeznuta.
08:09
But my point is, if we don't talk about this stuff,
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Želim reći da, ako ne govorimo o ovim stvarima
08:12
and we don't learn how to deal with our lives, it's not going
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i ne naučimo kako se nositi s našim životima,
08:14
to be one in four. It's going to be four in four
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neće to biti jedan od četvero. Bit će četiri od četiri
08:16
who are really, really going to get ill in the upstairs department.
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koji će zaista oboljeti ovdje gore.
08:20
And while we're at it, can we please stop the stigma?
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I kad smo kod toga, možemo li odbaciti stigme?
08:22
Thank you. (Applause)
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Hvala. (Pljesak)
08:29
(Applause) Thank you.
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(Pljesak) Hvala.
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Ruby Wax - Comedian and Mental Health ActivistRuby Wax is a loud, funny woman -- who spent much of her comedy career battling depression in silence. Now her work blends mental health advocacy and laughs.
Why you should listen
Winston Churchill called it "the Black Dog" -- a depression that settled over him and drained the flavor from life. Ruby Wax knows the Black Dog well; throughout the '80s and '90s, during a flourishing career as a brash comedian and interviewer in the UK, it trotted at her heels, even while she was interviewing the Duchess of York and sorting through Imelda Marcos' shoes.
After taking a timeout to learn how to manage the condition, Wax produced a stand-up comedy show called "Losing It" that directly addresses her mental health experiences, hilariously but powerfully. And she's started up a new social network called the Black Dog Tribe, which offers a community and support to people with depression. Meanwhile, she's working on her Master's in cognitive therapy.
Also, this year, Ruby was honored as an Officer of the Order of the British Empire (OBE) for her mental health work.
As she says: "I've always said to myself, if you've got a disability, use it." Read our Q&A with Ruby Wax >>
Ruby is also a visiting professor at The University of Surrey.
Ruby Wax | Speaker | TED.com