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Sue Klebold: My son was a Columbine shooter. This is my story
Sue Klebold: 我嘅仔係科倫拜高中槍擊案凶手，而呢個係我嘅故事
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Sue Klebold 係迪倫．克萊伯德嘅媽媽。迪倫係科倫拜高中槍擊案嘅兇手之一，殺咗 12 名學生同 1 名老師。Sue Klebold 用咗幾年嘅時間回憶家庭生活嘅細節，試著去了解佢當年到底可以做咩先可以防止個仔嘅暴行。Sue Klebold 嘅呢場演講難以開口嘅演講裡邊，探討咗精神健康同暴力行為嘅交匯點，仲向家長同專業人士倡導要繼續研討有關自殺念頭嘅嘢。
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00:26
The last time I heard my son's voice
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我最後一次聽到我仔把聲
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was when he walked out the front door
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佢出緊前門
00:30
on his way to school.
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去返學
門口好黑，佢就講咗一個字
00:33
He called out one word in the darkness:
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"Bye."
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「拜。」
1999 年
00:38
It was April 20, 1999.
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4 月 20 號朝早
我個仔迪倫同佢朋友艾瑞克
00:41
Later that morning,
at Columbine High School,
at Columbine High School,
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喺科倫拜高中
00:44
my son Dylan and his friend Eric
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00:47
killed 12 students and a teacher
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殺咗 12 個學生同一個老師
00:51
and wounded more than 20 others
before taking their own lives.
before taking their own lives.
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傷咗 20 幾個人之後自殺
00:56
Thirteen innocent people were killed,
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13 個無辜嘅人被殺
00:59
leaving their loved ones
in a state of grief and trauma.
in a state of grief and trauma.
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留畀佢哋嘅親友
無限悲痛同創傷
無限悲痛同創傷
01:03
Others sustained injuries,
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其他傷者
01:05
some resulting in disfigurement
and permanent disability.
and permanent disability.
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有人毁咗容，有人終生殘廢
01:10
But the enormity of the tragedy
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但係，呢個慘案嘅危害性
01:12
can't be measured only by the number
of deaths and injuries that took place.
of deaths and injuries that took place.
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唔可以用傷亡人數來衡量
01:17
There's no way to quantify
the psychological damage
the psychological damage
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我哋亦冇辦法去衡量佢
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of those who were in the school,
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對喺學校嘅目擊人同參與救援
01:23
or who took part
in rescue or cleanup efforts.
in rescue or cleanup efforts.
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同清理嘅人造成嘅心裡創傷
01:27
There's no way to assess
the magnitude of a tragedy like Columbine,
the magnitude of a tragedy like Columbine,
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亦冇辦法估量其他人模仿
01:31
especially when it can be a blueprint
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呢個槍殺案
01:33
for other shooters who go on
to commit atrocities of their own.
to commit atrocities of their own.
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會造成嘅影響
01:38
Columbine was a tidal wave,
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科倫拜慘案係個大浪
01:41
and when the crash ended,
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風波之後，社會需要好耐來
01:42
it would take years
for the community and for society
for the community and for society
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01:46
to comprehend its impact.
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消化、理解同認識佢嘅影響
01:49
It has taken me years
to try to accept my son's legacy.
to try to accept my son's legacy.
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我用咗好多年來接受
我個仔留低嘅問題
01:54
The cruel behavior
that defined the end of his life
that defined the end of his life
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暴行定義咗佢最後嘅人生
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showed me that he was a completely
different person from the one I knew.
different person from the one I knew.
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佢已經唔係我識嗰個人
02:02
Afterwards people asked,
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修尾有人問我
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"How could you not know?
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「你點解會唔知？
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What kind of a mother were you?"
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你到底點做媽咪？」
02:10
I still ask myself those same questions.
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我都猛咁問自己
02:14
Before the shootings,
I thought of myself as a good mom.
I thought of myself as a good mom.
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槍擊案之前，我自認係個好媽咪
02:17
Helping my children become caring,
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幫助我啲仔女成為體貼
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healthy, responsible adults
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健康、負責嘅成年人
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was the most important role of my life.
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係我一世人最重要嘅角色
02:26
But the tragedy convinced me
that I failed as a parent,
that I failed as a parent,
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但係呢個悲劇話我知
我做媽咪好失敗
我做媽咪好失敗
02:30
and it's partially this sense of failure
that brings me here today.
that brings me here today.
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挫敗感使我今日企喺呢度
02:36
Aside from his father,
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除咗佢嘅爸爸
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I was the one person
who knew and loved Dylan the most.
who knew and loved Dylan the most.
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我係最了解同最愛迪倫嘅人
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If anyone could have known
what was happening,
what was happening,
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假使有人可以預料到呢件事
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it should have been me, right?
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嗰個人應該係我，係咪？
02:47
But I didn't know.
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但係我唔知
02:50
Today, I'm here to share the experience
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今日，我想分享下我作為
02:52
of what it's like to be the mother
of someone who kills and hurts.
of someone who kills and hurts.
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一個殺人兇手嘅媽咪嘅感受
02:57
For years after the tragedy,
I combed through memories,
I combed through memories,
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慘案之後好多年
我猛咁梳理我啲記憶
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trying to figure out
exactly where I failed as a parent.
exactly where I failed as a parent.
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諗我到底做錯咗咩
03:05
But there are no simple answers.
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我揾唔到明確嘅答案
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I can't give you any solutions.
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亦冇任何解決方案
03:10
All I can do
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我可以做嘅，唯有
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is share what I have learned.
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同你哋分享我嘅經驗同教訓
03:16
When I talk to people
who didn't know me before the shootings,
who didn't know me before the shootings,
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同槍擊案之後
先識我嘅人傾偈時
先識我嘅人傾偈時
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I have three challenges to meet.
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我要面對三個挑戰
03:22
First, when I walk into a room like this,
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第一，我行入類似宜家間房時
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I never know if someone there
has experienced loss
has experienced loss
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我冇辦法知道，有冇人因為我嘅仔
03:30
because of what my son did.
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受到過傷害
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I feel a need to acknowledge the suffering
caused by a member of my family
caused by a member of my family
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我要承認我個仔
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who isn't here to do it for himself.
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造成咗嘅災難
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So first, with all of my heart,
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首先，我誠摯咁
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I'm sorry if my son has caused you pain.
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為我個仔對你哋
造成嘅傷害道歉
造成嘅傷害道歉
03:48
The second challenge I have
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第二個挑戰
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is that I must ask for understanding
and even compassion
and even compassion
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係我講我個仔
係死於自殺時
係死於自殺時
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when I talk about
my son's death as a suicide.
my son's death as a suicide.
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我需要你哋嘅諒解，甚至同情
03:59
Two years before he died,
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喺佢過身前兩年
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he wrote on a piece of paper in a notebook
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佢曾經喺本日記度寫
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that he was cutting himself.
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佢係度自殘
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He said that he was in agony
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佢話佢好痛苦
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and wanted to get a gun
so he could end his life.
so he could end his life.
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想摞把槍了結自己
04:11
I didn't know about any of this
until months after his death.
until months after his death.
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我喺佢死後幾個月先知道
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When I talk about his death as a suicide,
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我講我個仔係自殺時
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I'm not trying to downplay the viciousness
he showed at the end of his life.
he showed at the end of his life.
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唔係想減輕佢嘅罪過
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I'm trying to understand
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我只係試圖去理解
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how his suicidal thinking
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點解佢自殺嘅意圖
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led to murder.
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會導致一場屠殺
04:30
After a lot of reading
and talking with experts,
and talking with experts,
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讀咗好多文章，同資訊專家之後
04:33
I have come to believe
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我逐漸相信
04:35
that his involvement in the shootings
was rooted not in his desire to kill
was rooted not in his desire to kill
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佢策劃槍擊案唔係想殺人
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but in his desire to die.
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而係想自殺
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The third challenge I have
when I talk about my son's murder-suicide
when I talk about my son's murder-suicide
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講我個仔嘅自殺謀殺時
第三個挑戰
第三個挑戰
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is that I'm talking about mental health --
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就係講心理健康
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excuse me --
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唔好意思
04:53
is that I'm talking about mental health,
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就係講心理健康
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or brain health, as I prefer to call it,
because it's more concrete.
because it's more concrete.
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稱為大腦健康會更準確
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And in the same breath,
I'm talking about violence.
I'm talking about violence.
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同时，我亦係度講緊暴力
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The last thing I want to do
is to contribute to the misunderstanding
is to contribute to the misunderstanding
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我當然唔想加重
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that already exists around mental illness.
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大家對心理疾病嘅誤解
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Only a very small percent of those
who have a mental illness
who have a mental illness
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只有好少有心理疾病嘅人
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are violent toward other people,
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對其他人有暴力傾向
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but of those who die by suicide,
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但係，自殺嘅群體
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it's estimated that about 75
to maybe more than 90 percent
to maybe more than 90 percent
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有 75%，甚至 90%
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have a diagnosable
mental health condition of some kind.
mental health condition of some kind.
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有可以被診斷嘅心理健康狀況
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As you all know very well,
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眾所周知，我哋嘅心理健康
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our mental health care system
is not equipped to help everyone,
is not equipped to help everyone,
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醫療機制照顧唔到每一個人
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and not everyone with destructive thoughts
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同時，唔係每個有破壞性傾向嘅人
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fits the criteria
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都會診斷到嘅
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for a specific diagnosis.
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心理病
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Many who have ongoing feelings
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好多覺得恐懼、憤怒、或者絕望嘅人
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of fear or anger or hopelessness
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從來都冇
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are never assessed or treated.
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俾診斷或者治療過
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Too often, they get our attention
only if they reach a behavioral crisis.
only if they reach a behavioral crisis.
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等到有行為危機時
我哋先注意到佢哋
我哋先注意到佢哋
05:58
If estimates are correct
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根據統計數據
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that about one
to two percent of all suicides
to two percent of all suicides
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大概百分之一到二嘅自殺
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involves the murder of another person,
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會導致另一個人嘅死亡
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when suicide rates rise,
as they are rising for some populations,
as they are rising for some populations,
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一個群體嘅自殺率上升時
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the murder-suicide rates
will rise as well.
will rise as well.
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佢嘅自殺加謀殺率亦會上升
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I wanted to understand what was going on
in Dylan's mind prior to his death,
in Dylan's mind prior to his death,
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我好想了解，迪倫喺死前諗緊咩
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so I looked for answers
from other survivors of suicide loss.
from other survivors of suicide loss.
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於是我去研究啲自殺未遂嘅人
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I did research and volunteered
to help with fund-raising events,
to help with fund-raising events,
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我做調查，又幫手籌款
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and whenever I could,
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一有機會
06:33
I talked with those who had
survived their own suicidal crisis
survived their own suicidal crisis
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就同啲自殺未遂
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or attempt.
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或者有自殺傾向嘅人倾偈
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One of the most helpful
conversations I had
conversations I had
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我一個同事
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was with a coworker
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畀我好大嘅啟發
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who overheard me talking to someone else
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佢之前喺辦公室
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in my office cubicle.
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偶然聽到我同人講
06:47
She heard me say
that Dylan could not have loved me
that Dylan could not have loved me
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迪倫肯定唔愛我，唔係嘅話
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if he could do something
as horrible as he did.
as horrible as he did.
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佢點會做出咁恐怖嘅事
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Later, when she found me alone,
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之後，我呢個同事單獨嚟搵我
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she apologized for overhearing
that conversation,
that conversation,
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佢話，唔好意思，無意中聽到我講嘢
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but told me that I was wrong.
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同時間話我知，我係錯嘅
07:02
She said that when she was
a young, single mother
a young, single mother
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佢係個後生嘅單身媽咪時
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with three small children,
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佢要湊住三個細蚊仔
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she became severely depressed
and was hospitalized to keep her safe.
and was hospitalized to keep her safe.
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佢變得好抑鬱，需要住院來確保安全
07:13
At the time, she was certain
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嗰個時候，佢堅信
07:15
that her children
would be better off if she died,
would be better off if she died,
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如果佢死咗，佢嘅细路仔會更好
07:18
so she had made a plan to end her life.
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於是佢準備自殺
07:21
She assured me that a mother's love
was the strongest bond on Earth,
was the strongest bond on Earth,
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佢話，母愛係世界上最堅韌嘅紐帶
07:25
and that she loved her children
more than anything in the world,
more than anything in the world,
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佢愛佢嘅仔女，多於世上嘅一切
07:29
but because of her illness,
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但係因為佢個病
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she was sure that they
would be better off without her.
would be better off without her.
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佢堅信佢啲仔女冇佢仲好
07:36
What she said and what
I've learned from others
I've learned from others
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我從佢同其他人身上學到
07:39
is that we do not make
the so-called decision or choice
the so-called decision or choice
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我哋對自殺嘅抉擇
07:43
to die by suicide
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同我哋諗買邊駕車
07:45
in the same way
that we choose what car to drive
that we choose what car to drive
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或者星期六去邊度玩嘅嗰種選擇
07:48
or where to go on a Saturday night.
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係好唔同
07:51
When someone is
in an extremely suicidal state,
in an extremely suicidal state,
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喺一個人極度想自殺時
07:54
they are in a stage four
medical health emergency.
medical health emergency.
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佢處於最嚴重嘅醫學緊急狀態
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Their thinking is impaired and they've
lost access to tools of self-governance.
lost access to tools of self-governance.
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佢嘅思考能力受損，冇曬自律能力
08:05
Even though they can
make a plan and act with logic,
make a plan and act with logic,
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儘管佢哋計劃同執行時好有逻辑
08:08
their sense of truth
is distorted by a filter of pain
is distorted by a filter of pain
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佢嘅是非觀已經俾痛苦扭曲
08:12
through which they
interpret their reality.
interpret their reality.
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呢種痛苦改變咗
佢哋對現實嘅理解
佢哋對現實嘅理解
08:15
Some people can be very good
at hiding this state,
at hiding this state,
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有哋人好識掩飾自己
08:19
and they often have
good reasons for doing that.
good reasons for doing that.
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因為迫不得已
08:23
Many of us have
suicidal thoughts at some point,
suicidal thoughts at some point,
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好多人都諗過自殺
08:27
but persistent,
ongoing thoughts of suicide
ongoing thoughts of suicide
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如果呢個念頭揮之唔去
08:30
and devising a means to die
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仲會諗點去執行
08:32
are symptoms of pathology,
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呢就好似其他疾病
08:35
and like many illnesses,
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係一種病態
08:37
the condition has to be
recognized and treated
recognized and treated
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呢種病況需要、喺仲有得救時
08:40
before a life is lost.
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辨認同治療
08:43
But my son's death
was not purely a suicide.
was not purely a suicide.
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但係我個仔唔單止自殺
08:47
It involved mass murder.
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佢仲導致咗一場屠殺
08:50
I wanted to know how his
suicidal thinking became homicidal.
suicidal thinking became homicidal.
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我想知，佢嘅自殺傾向
點變成謀殺傾向
點變成謀殺傾向
08:56
But research is sparse
and there are no simple answers.
and there are no simple answers.
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呢方面嘅研究好少
冇簡單同直接嘅答案
09:01
Yes, he probably had ongoing depression.
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冇錯，佢一直都有抑鬱症
09:05
He had a personality
that was perfectionistic and self-reliant,
that was perfectionistic and self-reliant,
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佢係個完美主義者，唔鍾意依靠人
09:12
and that made him less likely
to seek help from others.
to seek help from others.
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佢嘅性格使佢
好少向其他人求助
好少向其他人求助
09:16
He had experienced
triggering events at the school
triggering events at the school
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佢曾經喺學校經歷過使佢覺得
09:20
that left him feeling
debased and humiliated and mad.
debased and humiliated and mad.
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羞愧，屈辱同憤怒嘅觸發事件
09:27
And he had a complicated friendship
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而且，佢同一個
係憤怒同孤獨嘅男仔
係憤怒同孤獨嘅男仔
09:30
with a boy who shared his feelings
of rage and alienation,
of rage and alienation,
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有個複雜嘅關係
09:34
and who was seriously disturbed,
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呢個男仔處於極度不安嘅狀態
09:37
controlling and homicidal.
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有強烈嘅控制慾同嗜殺慾
09:41
And on top of this period in his life
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喺佢哋人生裡邊
09:44
of extreme vulnerability and fragility,
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最脆弱嘅時候
09:48
Dylan found access to guns
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即使我哋屋企冇槍
09:50
even though we'd never
owned any in our home.
owned any in our home.
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迪倫都有其他渠道摞到咗槍支
09:53
It was appallingly easy
for a 17-year-old boy to buy guns,
for a 17-year-old boy to buy guns,
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一個十七歲嘅男仔，合法或者非法
09:59
both legally and illegally,
without my permission or knowledge.
without my permission or knowledge.
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唔使我知道或允許
就輕易摞到槍支
就輕易摞到槍支
10:04
And somehow, 17 years
and many school shootings later,
and many school shootings later,
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過去十七年嚟嘅校園槍擊
10:10
it's still appallingly easy.
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買賣槍支依然係
令人膽寒嘅容易
令人膽寒嘅容易
10:14
What Dylan did that day broke my heart,
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迪倫嗰日做嘅嘢令我心碎
10:18
and as trauma so often does,
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創傷就係有咁嘅後果
10:20
it took a toll on my body and on my mind.
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時刻折磨住我嘅身心
10:24
Two years after the shootings,
I got breast cancer,
I got breast cancer,
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槍擊事件後兩年，我得咗乳腺癌
10:28
and two years after that,
I began to have mental health problems.
I began to have mental health problems.
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再過咗两年，我得咗心理病
10:33
On top of the constant, perpetual grief
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同永久嘅悲哀
10:36
I was terrified that I would run
into a family member
into a family member
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我好驚我會撞見
10:40
of someone Dylan had killed,
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被害人嘅家屬
10:42
or be accosted by the press
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或者媒體
10:45
or by an angry citizen.
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或者一個憤怒嘅市民
10:47
I was afraid to turn on the news,
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我怕開電視睇新聞
10:50
afraid to hear myself being called
a terrible parent or a disgusting person.
a terrible parent or a disgusting person.
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驚人哋鬧我衰，鬧我核突
10:58
I started having panic attacks.
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我開始有恐慌發作
11:02
The first bout started
four years after the shootings,
four years after the shootings,
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第一發作喺槍擊案後四年
11:06
when I was getting ready
for the depositions
for the depositions
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我準備去法庭作證
11:09
and would have to meet
the victims' families face to face.
the victims' families face to face.
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要面對被害人家屬嗰
11:12
The second round started
six years after the shootings,
six years after the shootings,
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第二次發作，喺槍擊案後六年
11:16
when I was preparing
to speak publicly about murder-suicide
to speak publicly about murder-suicide
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我生來第一次
11:19
for the first time at a conference.
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公開參加討論自殺加謀殺
11:22
Both episodes lasted several weeks.
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兩次發作，每次延續幾個星期
11:27
The attacks happened everywhere:
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恐慌發作隨時會發生
11:29
in the hardware store, in my office,
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喺五金店，喺寫字樓
11:32
or even while reading a book in bed.
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甚至喺床上睇書嗰時
11:35
My mind would suddenly lock
into this spinning cycle of terror
into this spinning cycle of terror
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我會突然充滿恐懼
11:40
and no matter how I hard I tried
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無論我點試住
11:42
to calm myself down
or reason my way out of it,
or reason my way out of it,
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冷靜落來
11:46
I couldn't do it.
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我做唔到
11:49
It felt as if my brain
was trying to kill me,
was trying to kill me,
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感覺好似，我嘅大腦整死我
11:52
and then, being afraid of being afraid
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之後，我一直
11:55
consumed all of my thoughts.
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好驚自己咁驚
11:58
That's when I learned firsthand
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呢個就係我嘅
12:00
what it feels like
to have a malfunctioning mind,
to have a malfunctioning mind,
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大腦失常嘅親身經歷
12:03
and that's when I truly
became a brain health advocate.
became a brain health advocate.
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所以，我係大腦健康嘅擁護者
12:08
With therapy and medication and self-care,
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用藥物治療同自我護理
12:11
life eventually returned
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我嘅生活慢慢返到正軌
12:13
to whatever could be thought of
as normal under the circumstances.
as normal under the circumstances.
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變到相對嘅正常
12:18
When I looked back
on all that had happened,
on all that had happened,
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我諗下過去， 逐漸明白
12:20
I could see that my son's
spiral into dysfunction
spiral into dysfunction
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我個仔臨死前兩年可能
12:24
probably occurred
over a period of about two years,
over a period of about two years,
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因為機能失調過得好辛苦
12:28
plenty of time to get him help,
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嗰時，哪怕有一個人知道佢需要幫助
12:31
if only someone had known
that he needed help
that he needed help
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又知道點做
12:34
and known what to do.
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兩年時間咁長，肯定有機會幫到佢
12:40
Every time someone asks me,
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每一次有人問我
12:43
"How could you not have known?",
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「你點會唔知？」
12:45
it feels like a punch in the gut.
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好似重重一拳打落我個心度
12:48
It carries accusation
and taps into my feelings of guilt
and taps into my feelings of guilt
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指責我，引發我嘅負罪感
12:53
that no matter how much therapy I've had
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無論我接受幾多治療
12:55
I will never fully eradicate.
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永遠都唔會完全好返
12:58
But here's something I've learned:
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從中我學到
13:01
if love were enough
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如果愛就夠曬
13:03
to stop someone who is suicidal
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去打消一個人自殺
13:05
from hurting themselves,
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同傷人嘅念頭
13:08
suicides would hardly ever happen.
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咁自殺就幾乎唔會發生
13:11
But love is not enough,
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但係如果有愛仲唔夠
13:14
and suicide is prevalent.
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咁自殺會普遍咁發生
13:16
It's the second leading cause of death
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自殺喺 10 至 34 歲嘅群體
13:19
for people age 10 to 34,
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係第二大致死原因
舊年 2016 年
13:22
and 15 percent of American youth
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13:25
report having made a suicide plan
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百分之十五嘅美國青少年
話自己計劃過自殺
13:28
in the last year.
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我認識到，無論我哋幾想做到
13:31
I've learned that no matter
how much we want to believe we can,
how much we want to believe we can,
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我哋永遠都唔知道，亦控制唔到
13:36
we cannot know or control
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我哋愛嘅人嘅所有諗法同感覺
13:38
everything our loved ones think and feel,
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我哋堅信，我哋同其他人唔同
13:41
and the stubborn belief
that we are somehow different,
that we are somehow different,
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所以我愛嘅人唔會去自殘
13:45
that someone we love
would never think of hurting themselves
would never think of hurting themselves
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或者傷害其他人
13:49
or someone else,
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呢個觀念會導致我哋忽視
13:51
can cause us to miss
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平靜嘅表面下邊嘅嘢
13:53
what's hidden in plain sight.
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假使最壞嘅事發生咗
13:56
And if worst case scenarios
do come to pass,
do come to pass,
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我哋要學識
原諒自己唔知嘅嘢
原諒自己唔知嘅嘢
14:01
we'll have to learn
to forgive ourselves for not knowing
to forgive ourselves for not knowing
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原諒自己冇發現嘅問題
14:05
or for not asking the right questions
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14:08
or not finding the right treatment.
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原諒自己冇搵到對策
我哋應該假設
14:12
We should always assume
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14:13
that someone we love may be suffering,
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我哋所愛嘅人可能受緊折磨
14:16
regardless of what they say
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即使佢嘅言行
14:19
or how they act.
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好正常
14:21
We should listen with our whole being,
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我哋應該用成個身心咁
唔帶任何偏見咁
14:24
without judgments,
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未必畀到解決方法咁去傾聽
14:26
and without offering solutions.
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我好清楚，我成世都
14:32
I know that I will live with this tragedy,
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會帶著呢個悲劇
14:35
with these multiple tragedies,
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呢幾個悲劇，一直行落去
14:37
for the rest of my life.
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我知道，好多人諗
14:40
I know that in the minds of many,
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我嘅損失嘅
遠唔及受害者家屬
遠唔及受害者家屬
14:46
what I lost can't compare
to what the other families lost.
to what the other families lost.
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我嘅掙扎
唔會減輕佢哋嘅痛苦
唔會減輕佢哋嘅痛苦
14:51
I know my struggle
doesn't make theirs any easier.
doesn't make theirs any easier.
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有人認為，我冇痛苦嘅權利
14:56
I know there are even some who think
I don't have the right to any pain,
I don't have the right to any pain,
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只有用成世去贖罪
15:01
but only to a life of permanent penance.
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我嘅總結係
15:06
In the end what I know comes down to this:
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15:10
the tragic fact is that even
the most vigilant and responsible of us
the most vigilant and responsible of us
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我哋就算再負責再警覺
15:16
may not be able to help,
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最尾都可能
防止唔到悲劇嘅發生
防止唔到悲劇嘅發生
15:19
but for love's sake,
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但係為咗愛
15:22
we must never stop trying
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我哋絕唔可以放棄嘗試
15:24
to know the unknowable.
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去了解現實背後嘅未知
15:26
Thank you.
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多謝
15:27
(Applause)
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Sue Klebold - ActivistSue Klebold has become a passionate agent working to advance mental health awareness and intervention.
Why you should listen
Sue Klebold is the mother of Dylan Klebold, one of the two shooters at Columbine High School in 1999. Since the massacre, Sue has spent years excavating every detail of her family life, and trying to understand what she could have done to prevent it. In 2016, after years of evading public scrutiny, Klebold published A Mother's Reckoning: Living In the Aftermath of Tragedy, a powerful memoir in which she explores the crucial intersection between mental health and violence. As a passionate advocate for brain health awareness and intervention, she is donating any profits from the book to mental health charities, research and suicide prevention, hoping for solutions that will help parents and professionals spot and thwart signs of trouble.
Sue Klebold | Speaker | TED.com