TEDGlobal 2014
Vincent Moon and Naná Vasconcelos: Hidden music rituals around the world
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Vincent Moon travels the world with a backpack and a camera, filming astonishing music and ritual the world rarely sees -- from a powerful Sufi ritual in Chechnya to an ayahuasca journey in Peru. He hopes his films can help people see their own cultures in a new way, to make young people say: "Whoa, my grandfather is as cool as Beyoncé." Followed by a mesmerizing performance by jazz icon Naná Vasconcelos.
Naná Vasconcelos - Music icon
A jazz icon since the late 1960s, Naná Vasconcelos contributed Latin percussion to some of the world’s most cerebral, soulful music. Full bioVincent Moon - Filmmaker
Global wanderer Vincent Moon explores and documents vanishing traditions with his evocative ethnomusical films. Full bio
A jazz icon since the late 1960s, Naná Vasconcelos contributed Latin percussion to some of the world’s most cerebral, soulful music. Full bioVincent Moon - Filmmaker
Global wanderer Vincent Moon explores and documents vanishing traditions with his evocative ethnomusical films. Full bio
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Vincent Moon: How can we use computers,
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cameras, microphones to represent the world
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in an alternative way,
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as much as possible?
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How, maybe, is it possible to use the Internet
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to create a new form of cinema?
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And actually, why do we record?
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Well, it is with such simple questions in mind
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that I started to make films 10 years ago,
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first with a friend, Christophe Abric.
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He had a website, La Blogothèque,
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dedicated to independent music.
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We were crazy about music.
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We wanted to represent
music in a different way,
music in a different way,
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to film the music we love,
the musicians we admired,
the musicians we admired,
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as much as possible, far
from the music industry
from the music industry
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and far from the cliches attached to it.
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We started to publish every week
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sessions on the Internet.
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We are going to see a few extracts now.
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From Grizzly Bear in the shower
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to Sigur Ros playing in a Parisian cafe.
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From Phoenix playing by the Eiffel Tower
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to Tom Jones in his
hotel room in New York.
hotel room in New York.
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From Arcade Fire in an elevator
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in the Olympia
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to Beirut going down
a staircase in Brooklyn.
a staircase in Brooklyn.
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From R.E.M. in a car
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to The National around a table at night
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in the south of France.
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From Bon Iver playing with some friends
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in an apartment in Montmartre
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to Yeasayer having a long night,
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and many, many, many more
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unknown or very famous bands.
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We published all those films
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for free on the Internet,
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and we wanted to share
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all those films and represent music
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in a different way.
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We wanted to create
another type of intimacy
another type of intimacy
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using all those new technologies.
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At the time, 10 years ago actually,
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there was no such project on the Internet,
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and I guess that's why the project we
were making, the Take Away Shows,
were making, the Take Away Shows,
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got quite successful,
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reaching millions of viewers.
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After a while, I got a bit —
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I wanted to go somewhere else.
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I felt the need to travel and
to discover some other music,
to discover some other music,
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to explore the world,
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going to other corners,
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and actually it was also
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this idea of nomadic cinema,
sort of, that I had in mind.
sort of, that I had in mind.
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How could the use of new technologies
and the road fit together?
and the road fit together?
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How could I edit my films in a bus
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crossing the Andes?
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So I went on five-year travels
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around the globe.
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I started at the time in the digital film
and music label collection Petites Planètes,
and music label collection Petites Planètes,
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which was also an homage to
French filmmaker Chris Marker.
French filmmaker Chris Marker.
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We're going to see now a few more extracts
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of those new films.
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From the tecno brega diva of
northern Brazil, Gaby Amarantos
northern Brazil, Gaby Amarantos
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to a female ensemble in Chechnya.
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From experimental electronic music
in Singapore with One Man Nation
in Singapore with One Man Nation
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to Brazilian icon Tom Zé singing
on his rooftop in São Paolo.
on his rooftop in São Paolo.
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From The Bambir, the great
rock band from Armenia
rock band from Armenia
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to some traditional songs
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in a restaurant in Tbilisi, Georgia.
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From White Shoes, a great retro
pop band from Jakarta, Indonesia
pop band from Jakarta, Indonesia
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to DakhaBrakha, the revolutionary
band from Kiev, Ukraine.
band from Kiev, Ukraine.
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From Tomi Lebrero
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and his bandoneon and his friends
in Buenos Aires, Argentina,
in Buenos Aires, Argentina,
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to many other places
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and musicians around the world.
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My desire was to make it as a trek.
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To do all those films,
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it would have been impossible
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with a big company behind me,
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with a structure or anything.
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I was traveling alone with a backpack —
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computer, camera, microphones in it.
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Alone, actually, but
just with local people,
just with local people,
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meeting my team, which was absolutely not
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professional people, on the spot there,
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going from one place to another
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and to make cinema as a trek.
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I really believed that cinema could be
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this very simple thing:
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I want to make a film and you're going
to give me a place to stay for the night.
to give me a place to stay for the night.
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I give you a moment of cinema
and you offer me a capirinha.
and you offer me a capirinha.
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Well, or other drinks,
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depending on where you are.
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In Peru, they drink pisco sour.
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Well, when I arrived in Peru, actually,
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I had no idea about what I would do there.
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And I just had one phone number, actually,
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of one person.
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Three months later,
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after traveling all around the
country, I had recorded 33 films,
country, I had recorded 33 films,
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only with the help of local people,
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only with the help of people
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that I was asking all the
time the same question:
time the same question:
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What is important to record here today?
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By living in such a way,
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by working without any structure,
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I was able to react to the moment
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and to decide, oh, this is
important to make now.
important to make now.
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This is important to
record that whole person.
record that whole person.
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This is important to create this exchange.
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When I went to Chechnya,
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the first person I met
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looked at me and was like,
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"What are you doing here?
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Are you a journalist? NGO? Politics?
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What kind of problems
are you going to study?"
are you going to study?"
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Well, I was there to research
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on Sufi rituals in Chechnya, actually —
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incredible culture of Sufism in Chechnya,
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which is absolutely unknown
outside of the region.
outside of the region.
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As soon as people understood
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that I would give them those films —
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I would publish them online for free
under a Creative Commons license,
under a Creative Commons license,
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but I would also really
give them to the people
give them to the people
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and I would let them do
what they want with it.
what they want with it.
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I just want to represent
them in a beautiful light.
them in a beautiful light.
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I just want to portray them in a way that
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their grandchildren are going
to look at their grandfather,
to look at their grandfather,
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and they're going to be like,
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"Whoa, my grandfather is as
cool as Beyoncé." (Laughter)
cool as Beyoncé." (Laughter)
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It's a really important thing.
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(Applause)
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It's really important,
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because that's the way
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people are going to look differently at
their own culture, at their own land.
their own culture, at their own land.
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They're going to think about it differently.
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It may be a way to maintain
a certain diversity.
a certain diversity.
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Why you will record?
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Hmm. There's a really good quote
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by American thinker Hakim Bey
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which says, "Every recording
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is a tombstone of a live performance."
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It's a really good
sentence to keep in mind
sentence to keep in mind
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nowadays in an era saturated by images.
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What's the point of that?
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Where do we go with it?
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I was researching. I was still
keeping this idea in mind:
keeping this idea in mind:
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What's the point?
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I was researching on music, trying to pull,
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trying to get closer to a certain origin of it.
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Where is this all coming from?
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I am French. I had no idea about
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what I would discover,
which is a very simple thing:
which is a very simple thing:
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Everything was sacred, at first,
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and music was spiritual healing.
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How could I use my camera,
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my little tool, to get closer
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and maybe not only capture the trance
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but find an equivalent,
a cine-trance, maybe,
a cine-trance, maybe,
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something in complete harmony
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with the people?
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That is now my new research I'm doing
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on spirituality, on new
spirits around the world.
spirits around the world.
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Maybe a few more extracts now.
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From the Tana Toraja
funeral ritual in Indonesia
funeral ritual in Indonesia
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to an Easter ceremony
in the north of Ethiopia.
in the north of Ethiopia.
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From jathilan, a popular trance ritual
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on the island of Java,
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to Umbanda in the north of Brazil.
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The Sufi rituals of Chechnya
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to a mass in the holiest
church of Armenia.
church of Armenia.
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Some Sufi songs in Harar,
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the holy city of Ethiopia,
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to an ayahuasca ceremony
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deep in the Amazon of
Peru with the Shipibo.
Peru with the Shipibo.
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Then to my new project,
the one I'm doing now
the one I'm doing now
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here in Brazil, named "Híbridos."
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I'm doing it with Priscilla Telmon.
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It's research on the new
spiritualities all around the country.
spiritualities all around the country.
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This is my quest, my own little quest
of what I call experimental ethnography,
of what I call experimental ethnography,
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trying to hybrid all
those different genres,
those different genres,
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trying to regain a certain complexity.
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Why do we record?
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I was still there.
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I really believe cinema teaches us to see.
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The way we show the world
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is going to change the
way we see this world,
way we see this world,
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and we live in a moment where the mass media
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are doing a terrible, terrible job
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at representing the world:
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violence, extremists,
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only spectacular events,
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only simplifications of everyday life.
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I think we are recording
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to regain a certain complexity.
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To reinvent life today,
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we have to make new forms of images.
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And it's very simple.
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Muito obrigado.
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(Applause)
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Bruno Giussani: Vincent, Vincent, Vincent.
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Merci. We have to prepare for
the following performance,
the following performance,
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and I have a question for you,
and the question is this:
and the question is this:
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You show up in places like the
ones you just have shown us,
ones you just have shown us,
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and you are carrying a camera
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and I assume that you are welcome
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but you are not always absolutely welcome.
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You walk into sacred rituals,
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private moments in a village, a town,
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a group of people.
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How do you break the barrier
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when you show up with a lens?
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VM: I think you break it with your body,
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more than with your knowledge.
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That's what it taught me to travel,
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to trust the memory of the body
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more than the memory of the brain.
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The respect is stepping forward,
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not stepping backward, and I really think that
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by engaging your body in the
moment, in the ceremony,
moment, in the ceremony,
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in the places, people welcome you
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and understand your energy.
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BG: You told me that most of the videos
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you have made are
actually one single shot.
actually one single shot.
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You don't do much editing.
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I mean, you edited the ones for us
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at the beginning of the sessions
because of the length, etc.
because of the length, etc.
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Otherwise, you just go in and capture
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whatever happens in front of your eyes
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without much planning, and so is that the case?
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It's correct?
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VM: My idea is that I think that
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as long as we don't cut, in a way,
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as long as we let the viewer watch,
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more and more viewers
are going to feel closer,
are going to feel closer,
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are going to get closer to the moment,
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to that moment and to that place.
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I really think of that as a matter
of respecting the viewer,
of respecting the viewer,
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to not cut all the time from one place to another,
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to just let the time go.
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BG: Tell me in a few words
about your new project,
about your new project,
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"Híbridos," here in Brazil.
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Just before coming to
TEDGlobal, you have actually
TEDGlobal, you have actually
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been traveling around
the country for that.
the country for that.
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Tell us a couple of things.
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VM: "Híbridos" is —
I really believe Brazil,
I really believe Brazil,
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far from the cliches, is the greatest
religious country in the world,
religious country in the world,
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the greatest country
in terms of spirituality
in terms of spirituality
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and in experimentations in spiritualities.
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And it's a big project I'm
doing over this year,
doing over this year,
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which is researching in very
different regions of Brazil,
different regions of Brazil,
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in very different forms of cults,
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and trying to understand
how people live together
how people live together
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with spirituality nowadays.
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BG: The man who is going to
appear onstage momentarily,
appear onstage momentarily,
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and Vincent's going to introduce him,
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is one of the subjects of
one of his past videos.
one of his past videos.
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When did you do a video with him?
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VM: I guess four years ago,
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four years in my first travel.
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BG: So it was one of
your first ones in Brazil.
your first ones in Brazil.
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first ones in Brazil, yeah.
first ones in Brazil, yeah.
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I shot the film in Recife,
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in the place where he is from.
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BG: So let's introduce him.
Who are we waiting for?
Who are we waiting for?
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VM: I'll just make it very short.
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It's a very great honor for
me to welcome onstage
me to welcome onstage
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one of the greatest Brazilian
musicians of all time.
musicians of all time.
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Please welcome Naná Vasconcelos.
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BG: Naná Vasconcelos!
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Naná Vasconcelos: Let's go to the jungle.
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ABOUT THE SPEAKERS
Naná Vasconcelos - Music iconA jazz icon since the late 1960s, Naná Vasconcelos contributed Latin percussion to some of the world’s most cerebral, soulful music.
Why you should listen
Growing up absorbing a range of music, from classical Brazilian Villa-Lobos to Jimi Hendrix, Naná Vasconcelos became an innovative percussionist who could pick up a beat on almost any instrument. He came to specialize in the berimbau, the single-stringed Brazillian percussion instrument, and in the polyrhythms typical of his home in northern Brazil.
Starting his career with a young Milton Nascimiento, he became a frequent collaborator with what came to be called (deeply over-simply, of course) jazz intellectuals -- bandleaders like Don Cherry and Pat Metheny and crossover artists like saxophonist and composer Jan Garbarek who play with silence, improv and a broad palette of sound. He released a slew of his own records as a bandleader, and throughout his life he sought fresh sounds with new collaborators. For a taste, try his 2009 collaboration with Joyce and Mauricio Maestro, Visions of Dawn: The Paris 1976 Project.
More profile about the speakerStarting his career with a young Milton Nascimiento, he became a frequent collaborator with what came to be called (deeply over-simply, of course) jazz intellectuals -- bandleaders like Don Cherry and Pat Metheny and crossover artists like saxophonist and composer Jan Garbarek who play with silence, improv and a broad palette of sound. He released a slew of his own records as a bandleader, and throughout his life he sought fresh sounds with new collaborators. For a taste, try his 2009 collaboration with Joyce and Mauricio Maestro, Visions of Dawn: The Paris 1976 Project.
Naná Vasconcelos | Speaker | TED.com
Vincent Moon - Filmmaker
Global wanderer Vincent Moon explores and documents vanishing traditions with his evocative ethnomusical films.
Why you should listen
Vincent Moon rose to acclaim through the Take Away Show, a blog showcasing his videos of indie rock musicians ranging from The National to REM, shot in intimate (and often unusual) locations with camera phones and other everyday technologies.
In 2008, Moon embarked on a worldwide journey with only the possessions and video tools he could carry on his back, eschewing profit and a traditional career for a nomadic lifestyle. He has wandered from Central Europe through Africa and into Northern Brazil, documenting and filming traditional music and sacred traditions for his Creative Commons web publishing initiative, Collection Petites Planètes. The New York Times wrote that "Moon proved it’s possible to reinvent an old, tired format (the music video) using the very thing (the Internet) that supposedly killed it.”
More profile about the speakerIn 2008, Moon embarked on a worldwide journey with only the possessions and video tools he could carry on his back, eschewing profit and a traditional career for a nomadic lifestyle. He has wandered from Central Europe through Africa and into Northern Brazil, documenting and filming traditional music and sacred traditions for his Creative Commons web publishing initiative, Collection Petites Planètes. The New York Times wrote that "Moon proved it’s possible to reinvent an old, tired format (the music video) using the very thing (the Internet) that supposedly killed it.”
Vincent Moon | Speaker | TED.com