ABOUT THE SPEAKERS
Naná Vasconcelos - Music icon
A jazz icon since the late 1960s, Naná Vasconcelos contributed Latin percussion to some of the world’s most cerebral, soulful music.

Why you should listen
Growing up absorbing a range of music, from classical Brazilian Villa-Lobos to Jimi Hendrix,  Naná Vasconcelos became an innovative percussionist who could pick up a beat on almost any instrument. He came to specialize in the berimbau, the single-stringed Brazillian percussion instrument, and in the polyrhythms typical of his home in northern Brazil.
 
Starting his career with a young Milton Nascimiento, he became a frequent collaborator with what came to be called (deeply over-simply, of course) jazz intellectuals -- bandleaders like Don Cherry and Pat Metheny and crossover artists like saxophonist and composer Jan Garbarek who play with silence, improv and a broad palette of sound. He released a slew of his own records as a bandleader, and throughout his life he sought fresh sounds with new collaborators. For a taste, try his 2009 collaboration with Joyce and Mauricio Maestro, Visions of Dawn: The Paris 1976 Project.
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Vincent Moon - Filmmaker
Global wanderer Vincent Moon explores and documents vanishing traditions with his evocative ethnomusical films.

Why you should listen
Vincent Moon rose to acclaim through the Take Away Show, a blog showcasing his videos of indie rock musicians ranging from The National to REM, shot in intimate (and often unusual) locations with camera phones and other everyday technologies.
 
In 2008, Moon embarked on a worldwide journey with only the possessions and video tools he could carry on his back, eschewing profit and a traditional career for a nomadic lifestyle. He has wandered from Central Europe through Africa and into Northern Brazil, documenting and filming traditional music and sacred traditions for his Creative Commons web publishing initiative, Collection Petites Planètes. The New York Times wrote that "Moon proved it’s possible to reinvent an old, tired format (the music video) using the very thing (the Internet) that supposedly killed it.”
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TEDGlobal 2014

Vincent Moon and Naná Vasconcelos: Hidden music rituals around the world

温什特莫和呐呐塞纳斯: 世界隐藏音乐仪式

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法国电影制作家,温什特莫走遍了世界,只带了一个背包,一个笔记本和一部相机。他录制了Arcade Frire在电梯中,Bon Iver在公寓厨房, 和一次录制完成的车臣苏菲的仪式,秘鲁的死藤水旅行。在这次演讲中,他展示了电影和音乐如何展示和帮助人们用一种新的方式去看到自己的文化。在演讲最后,这部录像将呈现爵士呐呐塞纳斯的表演。
- Music icon
A jazz icon since the late 1960s, Naná Vasconcelos contributed Latin percussion to some of the world’s most cerebral, soulful music. Full bio - Filmmaker
Global wanderer Vincent Moon explores and documents vanishing traditions with his evocative ethnomusical films. Full bio

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Vincent文森特 Moon月亮: How can we use computers电脑,
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我们如何使用电脑
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cameras相机, microphones麦克风 to represent代表 the world世界
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照相机,话筒来呈现这个世界
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in an alternative替代 way,
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以另一种方式,
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as much as possible可能?
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尽可能的展现?
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How, maybe, is it possible可能 to use the Internet互联网
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如何才能利用网络
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to create创建 a new form形成 of cinema电影?
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去制造一种新形式的电影院?
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And actually其实, why do we record记录?
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归根到底,我们为什么记录呢
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Well, it is with such这样 simple简单 questions问题 in mind心神
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让我们先把这个问题留一会
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that I started开始 to make films影片 10 years年份 ago,
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10年前我开始了制作电影
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first with a friend朋友, Christophe克里斯托夫 Abric阿布里克.
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刚开始是和一个朋友一起 他叫Christophe Abric
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He had a website网站, La BlogothBlogothèque,
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他曾经有一个网站叫 La Blogotheque
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dedicated专用 to independent独立 music音乐.
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专门制作独立音乐
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We were crazy about music音乐.
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我们曾经疯狂的热爱音乐
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We wanted to represent代表
music音乐 in a different不同 way,
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我们想用不同的方式去展示音乐
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to film电影 the music音乐 we love,
the musicians音乐家 we admired尊敬的,
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用不同的方式去拍摄我们喜爱的音乐,我们崇敬的音乐家
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as much as possible可能, far
from the music音乐 industry行业
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尽可能的做的与音乐工业不同
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and far from the cliches陈词滥调 attached to it.
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远远的离开与之相关的陈词滥调
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We started开始 to publish发布 every一切 week
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我们开始每周在网络上发布音乐系列
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sessions会议 on the Internet互联网.
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We are going to see a few少数 extracts提取物 now.
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让我们看几个精彩片段
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From Grizzly灰熊 Bear in the shower淋浴
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从沐浴的Grizzy Bear乐队
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to Sigur西格尔 Ros罗斯 playing播放 in a Parisian巴黎的 cafe咖啡店.
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到在巴黎咖啡馆演奏的SigurRose
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From Phoenix凤凰 playing播放 by the Eiffel艾菲尔 Tower
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从在埃菲尔铁塔演奏的Phoenix
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to Tom汤姆 Jones琼斯 in his
hotel旅馆 room房间 in New York纽约.
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到在纽约酒店房间的Tom Johnes
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From Arcade拱廊 Fire in an elevator电梯
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从在奥林匹亚电梯中的Arcade Fire
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in the Olympia奥林匹亚
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to Beirut贝鲁特 going down
a staircase楼梯 in Brooklyn布鲁克林.
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到走下布鲁克林楼梯的Beirut
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From R.E.M. in a car汽车
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从在车中的R.E.M.
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to The National国民 around a table at night
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到法国南部夜晚圆桌边的The National
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in the south of France法国.
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From Bon盂兰盆 Iver艾弗 playing播放 with some friends朋友
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从跟几个朋友一起在蒙马特公寓的Bon Lver
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in an apartment公寓 in Montmartre蒙马特
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to Yeasayer乐天派 having a long night,
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到漫漫长夜中的Yeasayer
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and many许多, many许多, many许多 more
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还有很多很多很多
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unknown未知 or very famous著名 bands.
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不知名的或者非常知名的乐队。
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We published发表 all those films影片
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我们发布所有的电影
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for free自由 on the Internet互联网,
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到免费的网络上
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and we wanted to share分享
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我们希望去分享
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all those films影片 and represent代表 music音乐
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所有的片段并且展示音乐
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in a different不同 way.
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用一种不同的方式
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We wanted to create创建
another另一个 type类型 of intimacy亲密关系
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我们希望使用所有的心记住
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using运用 all those new technologies技术.
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去创造一种亲密
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At the time, 10 years年份 ago actually其实,
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在那时,事实上10年前
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there was no such这样 project项目 on the Internet互联网,
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网络上还没有这种项目
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and I guess猜测 that's why the project项目 we
were making制造, the Take Away Shows展会,
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我觉得这也是为什么我们制作的这个项目“Take Away Shows” (带走的演出)
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got quite相当 successful成功,
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能够如此的成功
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reaching到达 millions百万 of viewers观众.
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拥有了百万的观看者
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After a while, I got a bit
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一段时间以后,我有点
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I wanted to go somewhere某处 else其他.
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我希望开始做点别的什么
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I felt the need to travel旅行 and
to discover发现 some other music音乐,
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我觉得需要去旅行,去发现其他的音乐
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to explore探索 the world世界,
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去探索这个世界
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going to other corners角落,
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去到另一个角落
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and actually其实 it was also
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事实上也是
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this idea理念 of nomadic游牧 cinema电影,
sort分类 of, that I had in mind心神.
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我心中的这个游牧电影院的想法,
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How could the use of new technologies技术
and the road fit适合 together一起?
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怎么去利用新技术和(这个)想法结合
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How could I edit编辑 my films影片 in a bus总线
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我如何能在我的汽车上剪辑电影
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crossing路口 the Andes安第斯山脉?
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当我驱车穿越安第斯山脉的时候
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So I went on five-year五年 travels旅行
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于是我去了一趟历时5年的旅行
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around the globe地球.
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穿越全球
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I started开始 at the time in the digital数字 film电影
and music音乐 label标签 collection采集 PetitesPETITES Plan计划ètesTES,
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我从一个数字电影和音乐的合集网站 开始 -Petites Planètes
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which哪一个 was also an homage尊敬 to
French法国 filmmaker电影制片人 Chris克里斯 Marker标记.
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它也是法国电影制作家 Chris Marker的主页
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We're going to see now a few少数 more extracts提取物
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我们将看到几个新的电影
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of those new films影片.
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其中的片段
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From the tecnoTECNO brega布雷加 diva耍大牌 of
northern北方 Brazil巴西, Gaby加比 AmarantosAmarantos
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从巴西北部盖比 的tecno brega diva
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to a female ensemble合奏 in Chechnya车臣.
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到车臣的女生合奏
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From experimental试验 electronic电子 music音乐
in Singapore新加坡 with One Man Nation国家
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从新加坡”One Man Nation“的实验电子音乐
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to Brazilian巴西人 icon图标 Tom汤姆singing唱歌
on his rooftop屋顶 in São Paolo保罗.
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到巴西正保罗的Tom Ze在自家房顶的歌唱
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From The BambirBambir, the great
rock band from Armenia亚美尼亚
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从著名的美国亚美尼亚摇滚乐队 The Bambir
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to some traditional传统 songs歌曲
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到一些在第比利斯格鲁吉亚的
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in a restaurant餐厅 in Tbilisi第比利斯, Georgia格鲁吉亚.
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From White白色 Shoes, a great retro复古
pop流行的 band from Jakarta雅加达, Indonesia印度尼西亚
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从印度尼西亚雅加达的复古流行乐队 White Shores (白鞋子)
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to DakhaBrakhaDakhaBrakha, the revolutionary革命的
band from Kiev基辅, Ukraine乌克兰.
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到乌克兰基辅的革命性乐队, DakhaBrakha
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From Tomi托米 LebreroLEBRERO
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从阿根廷艾利斯的Tomi Lebrero
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and his bandoneon手风琴 and his friends朋友
in Buenos布宜诺斯艾利斯 Aires布宜诺斯艾利斯, Argentina阿根廷,
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和他的乐队以及朋友
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to many许多 other places地方
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到很多其他的地方
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and musicians音乐家 around the world世界.
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以及世界各地的音乐家们
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My desire欲望 was to make it as a trek跋涉.
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我的渴望是把这个做成一个音乐游历
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To do all those films影片,
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制作所有这些电影短片
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it would have been impossible不可能
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如果有一个大公司在我的背后
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with a big company公司 behind背后 me,
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这些都可能会不能实现
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with a structure结构体 or anything.
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(因为公司的)结构或者别的什么的。
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I was traveling旅行 alone单独 with a backpack背包
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在我旅行的时候,我知道了一个背包
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computer电脑, camera相机, microphones麦克风 in it.
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里面有电脑,相机和麦克风
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Alone单独, actually其实, but
just with local本地 people,
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独自一人,事实上,和当地的群众
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meeting会议 my team球队, which哪一个 was absolutely绝对 not
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团队会议,绝对没有的
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professional专业的 people, on the spot there,
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职业人员,都是在现场的
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going from one place地点 to another另一个
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从一个地方到另一个地方
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and to make cinema电影 as a trek跋涉.
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像游历一样制作电影
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I really believed相信 that cinema电影 could be
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我真实地相信电影制作是
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this very simple简单 thing:
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可以非常简单的
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I want to make a film电影 and you're going
to give me a place地点 to stay for the night.
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我希望能制作一部电影, 你能提供给我一个晚上能住的地方
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I give you a moment时刻 of cinema电影
and you offer提供 me a capirinhacapirinha.
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我提供给你一个短片,你能赠我一杯鸡尾酒
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Well, or other drinks饮料,
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或者别的什么喝的,
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depending根据 on where you are.
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看你在什么地方了
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In Peru秘鲁, they drink pisco皮斯科 sour.
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在秘鲁,他们喝皮斯科鸡尾酒(pisco sour)
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Well, when I arrived到达 in Peru秘鲁, actually其实,
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当我到达秘鲁
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I had no idea理念 about what I would do there.
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我不知道我到底想要做些什么
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And I just had one phone电话 number, actually其实,
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of one person.
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一个人的
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Three months个月 later后来,
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after traveling旅行 all around the
country国家, I had recorded记录 33 films影片,
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在走遍整个国家后,我录制了33个电影
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only with the help of local本地 people,
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只有当地居民的帮助
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only with the help of people
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只有当地居民的帮助
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that I was asking all the
time the same相同 question:
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我一直在问一个同样的问题
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What is important重要 to record记录 here today今天?
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今天,什么是值得记录的?
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By living活的 in such这样 a way,
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通过这样的生活
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by working加工 without any structure结构体,
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通过没有规矩的工作
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I was able能够 to react应对 to the moment时刻
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我做到了对(那些)时刻响应
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and to decide决定, oh, this is
important重要 to make now.
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决定这个时刻是重要的
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This is important重要 to
record记录 that whole整个 person.
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录制整个人是重要的
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This is important重要 to create创建 this exchange交换.
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这个场景是重要的
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When I went to Chechnya车臣,
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我去车臣的时候
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the first person I met会见
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我遇到的第一个人
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looked看着 at me and was like,
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看着我,像是说
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"What are you doing here?
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你在这里干嘛?
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Are you a journalist记者? NGO非政府组织? Politics政治?
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你是杂志记者吗?非政府组织?政界人士?
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What kind of problems问题
are you going to study研究?"
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你来研究什么问题的?
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Well, I was there to research研究
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当然,我是去研究的
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on Sufi苏菲 rituals仪式 in Chechnya车臣, actually其实
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(研究)车臣苏菲的仪式
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incredible难以置信 culture文化 of Sufism苏非主义 in Chechnya车臣,
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不可思议的苏菲的文化
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which哪一个 is absolutely绝对 unknown未知
outside of the region地区.
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对整个外界来说完全不知的(文化)
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As soon不久 as people understood了解
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当地人民很快知道
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that I would give them those films影片
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我在给他们制做电影
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I would publish发布 them online线上 for free自由
under a Creative创作的 Commons下议院 license执照,
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在创作知识共享许可协议的前提下发布到免费的网站
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but I would also really
give them to the people
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同时我也会将这些电音给到当地的人民
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and I would let them do
what they want with it.
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让他们决定怎样制作电影
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I just want to represent代表
them in a beautiful美丽 light.
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我只是想呈现给他们一束美丽的光
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I just want to portray写真 them in a way that
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我只是想去以一种方式描写
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their grandchildren孙子 are going
to look at their grandfather祖父,
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他们的子孙将会看到他们的祖父母
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and they're going to be like,
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将来有一天他们会有这样的时刻
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"Whoa, my grandfather祖父 is as
cool as Beyonc碧昂斯é." (Laughter笑声)
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哇,我的祖父像Beyonce (美国流行音乐歌唱家)一样的酷
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It's a really important重要 thing.
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这是一件很重要的事情
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(Applause掌声)
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(掌声)
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It's really important重要,
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这是非常重要的
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because that's the way
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因为就是这种方式
07:36
people are going to look differently不同 at
their own拥有 culture文化, at their own拥有 land土地.
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人民开始以一种不同的眼光去看待他们的文化,在他们自己的土地上
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They're going to think about it differently不同.
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他们会有不同的想法
07:42
It may可能 be a way to maintain保持
a certain某些 diversity多样.
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这可能是一种方式去维护一种不同多样性。
07:49
Why you will record记录?
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你为什么要记录?
07:52
Hmm. There's a really good quote引用
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有一个很好的引用
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by American美国 thinker思想家 Hakim哈基姆 Bey
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美国的思想家Hakim Bey
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which哪一个 says, "Every一切 recording记录
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的说法, “每一个记录
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is a tombstone墓碑 of a live生活 performance性能."
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都是一个生活表演的墓碑“
08:04
It's a really good
sentence句子 to keep in mind心神
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是一句很好的值得记在心里的话。
08:07
nowadays如今 in an era时代 saturated饱和的 by images图片.
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现在在充满图形的纪元里
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What's the point of that?
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真正的意义是什么呢?
08:12
Where do we go with it?
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我们拿它干什么呢?
08:15
I was researching研究. I was still
keeping保持 this idea理念 in mind心神:
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我曾经在探索,我仍然保持着这个想法
08:18
What's the point?
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是什么意义呢?
08:21
I was researching研究 on music音乐, trying to pull,
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我曾经在研究音乐,试图去拉
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trying to get closer接近 to a certain某些 origin起源 of it.
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试图去走进它的源头。
08:26
Where is this all coming未来 from?
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所有这些事从哪里来的?
08:28
I am French法国. I had no idea理念 about
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我是法国人,我不知道的
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what I would discover发现,
which哪一个 is a very simple简单 thing:
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我会发现什么,这是一件很简单的事情
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Everything was sacred神圣, at first,
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所有的事情刚开始都很神秘的,
08:36
and music音乐 was spiritual精神 healing复原.
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音乐是精神的治疗剂
08:41
How could I use my camera相机,
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我如何能使用我的相机
08:44
my little tool工具, to get closer接近
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我的小工具,去接近
08:49
and maybe not only capture捕获 the trance发呆
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又或者捕捉这个足迹
08:51
but find an equivalent当量,
a cine-trance电影恍惚, maybe,
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但是找到一个平衡,一个电影的影子,
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something in complete完成 harmony和谐
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在与人的完全的和谐中
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with the people?
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09:03
That is now my new research研究 I'm doing
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这是我现在做的研究
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on spirituality灵性, on new
spirits around the world世界.
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灵性上的,世界上新的精神
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Maybe a few少数 more extracts提取物 now.
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现在再看几个短片
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From the Tana塔纳 Toraja托拉雅
funeral葬礼 ritual仪式 in Indonesia印度尼西亚
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从印度里西亚塔纳托纳雅的葬礼仪式
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to an Easter复活节 ceremony仪式
in the north of Ethiopia埃塞俄比亚.
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到北埃塞尔比亚的复活节庆祝
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From jathilanjathilan, a popular流行 trance发呆 ritual仪式
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从Jathilan,一种流行恍惚的仪式
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on the island of JavaJava的,
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在爪洼的岛屿上
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to UmbandaUmbanda in the north of Brazil巴西.
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到巴西北部的尤班达
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The Sufi苏菲 rituals仪式 of Chechnya车臣
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在车臣的苏菲仪式
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to a mass in the holiest最神圣的
church教会 of Armenia亚美尼亚.
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到亚美尼亚一个圣神教堂中的弥撒
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Some Sufi苏菲 songs歌曲 in Harar哈勒尔,
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哈勒尔的苏菲歌曲
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the holy city of Ethiopia埃塞俄比亚,
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埃塞俄比亚的圣神之城
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to an ayahuasca死藤水 ceremony仪式
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死藤水仪式
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deep in the Amazon亚马逊 of
Peru秘鲁 with the ShipiboShipibo.
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在秘鲁的亚马逊深处
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Then to my new project项目,
the one I'm doing now
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然后到我的新项目,我正在做的
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here in Brazil巴西, named命名 "Híbridosbridos."
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在这里,巴西,叫做"Híbridos."
10:27
I'm doing it with Priscilla普里西拉 TelmonTelmon.
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我和Priscilla Telmon一起做的
10:29
It's research研究 on the new
spiritualitiesspiritualities all around the country国家.
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研究整个国家的新的精神
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This is my quest寻求, my own拥有 little quest寻求
of what I call experimental试验 ethnography民族志,
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这是我的请求,我自己的小请求, 我叫做实验性的民族性
10:40
trying to hybrid混合动力 all
those different不同 genres流派,
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试图去融合这些不同的流派
10:48
trying to regain恢复 a certain某些 complexity复杂.
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试图去成就一定的复杂度。
10:53
Why do we record记录?
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我们为什么记录?
10:56
I was still there.
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我还在问这个问题
10:58
I really believe cinema电影 teaches us to see.
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我真实的相信,摄像机教我们去看
11:02
The way we show显示 the world世界
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我们呈现给世界的方式
11:04
is going to change更改 the
way we see this world世界,
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将会改变我们看待世界的方式,
11:08
and we live生活 in a moment时刻 where the mass media媒体
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和我们生活的时刻,当大量的媒体
11:10
are doing a terrible可怕, terrible可怕 job工作
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正在做的极差的时候
11:13
at representing代表 the world世界:
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在呈现世界
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violence暴力, extremists极端分子,
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暴力,极端主义分子,
11:19
only spectacular壮观 events事件,
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只有美妙的事件
11:21
only simplifications简化 of everyday每天 life.
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只有每天生活的简单性
11:23
I think we are recording记录
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我觉得我们在记录
11:25
to regain恢复 a certain某些 complexity复杂.
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去获取一种繁复
11:29
To reinvent重塑 life today今天,
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去重塑生活
11:34
we have to make new forms形式 of images图片.
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我们必须制作新的印象
11:38
And it's very simple简单.
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同时也是很简单的
11:40
MuitoMUITO obrigadoobrigado.
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谢谢(Muito obrigado)
11:43
(Applause掌声)
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(掌声)
11:54
Bruno布鲁诺 Giussani吉萨尼: Vincent文森特, Vincent文森特, Vincent文森特.
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布努诺吉萨尼: Vincent, Vincent, Vincent.
11:57
Merci留言Merci. We have to prepare准备 for
the following以下 performance性能,
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我们需要准备接下来的表演
12:00
and I have a question for you,
and the question is this:
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我有一个问题想要问你,
12:03
You show显示 up in places地方 like the
ones那些 you just have shown显示 us,
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你出现在就像你给我们看的那些地方
12:07
and you are carrying携带 a camera相机
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你带了摄像机吗?
12:09
and I assume承担 that you are welcome欢迎
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我假设你是被欢迎的
12:11
but you are not always absolutely绝对 welcome欢迎.
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但是你不是总是被完全欢迎的吧
12:14
You walk步行 into sacred神圣 rituals仪式,
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你走进恐怖的仪式
12:16
private私人的 moments瞬间 in a village, a town,
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在乡村中某个私人的时刻,
12:20
a group of people.
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一群人
12:22
How do you break打破 the barrier屏障
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你怎么打破障碍的
12:24
when you show显示 up with a lens镜片?
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当你到这镜头出现的时候?
12:30
VMVM: I think you break打破 it with your body身体,
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VM:我觉得你更多时候用你的身体进入
12:32
more than with your knowledge知识.
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超过于你的知识
12:35
That's what it taught me to travel旅行,
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这是在旅行中学到的
12:37
to trust相信 the memory记忆 of the body身体
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相信身体的记忆力
12:40
more than the memory记忆 of the brain.
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多过于大脑的记忆
12:43
The respect尊重 is stepping步进 forward前锋,
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尊重就是向前走,
12:45
not stepping步进 backward落后, and I really think that
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而不是向后退,我真是的认为
12:48
by engaging your body身体 in the
moment时刻, in the ceremony仪式,
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通过你的身体在仪式去沟通
12:51
in the places地方, people welcome欢迎 you
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在那些地方,人民欢迎你
12:53
and understand理解 your energy能源.
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并且理解你的意图
12:55
BGBG: You told me that most of the videos视频
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你告诉我,很多你制作的录像
12:57
you have made制作 are
actually其实 one single shot射击.
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都是单次录制完成的
12:59
You don't do much editing编辑.
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不太会剪辑
13:01
I mean, you edited编辑 the ones那些 for us
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我的意思是,你为我们剪辑了一部
13:03
at the beginning开始 of the sessions会议
because of the length长度, etc等等.
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在我们的节目开始的时候,因为太长了。
13:05
Otherwise除此以外, you just go in and capture捕获
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如果一般情况,你都是直接拍摄了
13:07
whatever随你 happens发生 in front面前 of your eyes眼睛
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任何在你眼前发生的事情
13:09
without much planning规划, and so is that the case案件?
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也没有计划什么的,对吗?
13:12
It's correct正确?
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是这样的
13:13
VMVM: My idea理念 is that I think that
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我的想法是
13:15
as long as we don't cut, in a way,
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只要我不剪辑,
13:19
as long as we let the viewer观众 watch,
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只要我让观众看到
13:22
more and more viewers观众
are going to feel closer接近,
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越来越的观众会觉得离(演出)更近一些,
13:25
are going to get closer接近 to the moment时刻,
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离那些时刻更近一些,
13:28
to that moment时刻 and to that place地点.
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离那些地方更近一些
13:32
I really think of that as a matter
of respecting关于 the viewer观众,
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我真的相信这是尊重观众的方式
13:36
to not cut all the time from one place地点 to another另一个,
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不去剪裁和拼接
13:39
to just let the time go.
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而是让时间一直跑
13:41
BGBG: Tell me in a few少数 words
about your new project项目,
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用几个字告诉我你的项目
13:43
"Híbridosbridos," here in Brazil巴西.
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在巴西叫做“混合动力车” (Híbridos)
13:45
Just before coming未来 to
TEDGlobalTEDGlobal, you have actually其实
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事实上,在成为来TED全球之前
13:47
been traveling旅行 around
the country国家 for that.
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你还在全国旅行
13:49
Tell us a couple一对 of things.
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告诉我们几件事情
13:51
VMVM: "Híbridosbridos" is —
I really believe Brazil巴西,
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“混合动力车” 是 (我相信是巴西)
13:53
far from the cliches陈词滥调, is the greatest最大
religious宗教 country国家 in the world世界,
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是世界上做大的宗教国家,远离尘世
13:57
the greatest最大 country国家
in terms条款 of spirituality灵性
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在精神层面来讲,最大的国家
14:00
and in experimentations性实验 in spiritualitiesspiritualities.
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在实践上,在灵魂上
14:03
And it's a big project项目 I'm
doing over this year,
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这是我今年做的大项目
14:06
which哪一个 is researching研究 in very
different不同 regions地区 of Brazil巴西,
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是探索到不同的巴西宗教
14:11
in very different不同 forms形式 of cults邪教,
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在完全不同的文化形式上
14:13
and trying to understand理解
how people live生活 together一起
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试图去理解人们是怎么生活在一起的
14:15
with spirituality灵性 nowadays如今.
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在当代的精神下
14:16
BGBG: The man who is going to
appear出现 onstage在舞台上 momentarily瞬间,
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在接下来即将上台的人是
14:20
and Vincent's文森特的 going to introduce介绍 him,
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温什特将会介绍
14:22
is one of the subjects主题 of
one of his past过去 videos视频.
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他项目中的一个主角
14:26
When did you do a video视频 with him?
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你什么时候完成对他的拍摄的?
14:27
VMVM: I guess猜测 four years年份 ago,
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我记得是4年前
14:30
four years年份 in my first travel旅行.
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我四年前的第一次旅行
14:32
BGBG: So it was one of
your first ones那些 in Brazil巴西.
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所以是你第一次在巴西?
14:35
VMVM: It was amongst其中包括 the
first ones那些 in Brazil巴西, yeah.
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是的,是我在第一次到巴西期间
14:38
I shot射击 the film电影 in Recife累西腓,
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我在累西腓拍摄他的,
14:39
in the place地点 where he is from.
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他是从那里出来的
14:41
BGBG: So let's introduce介绍 him.
Who are we waiting等候 for?
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让我们介绍他,我们还等什么?
14:44
VMVM: I'll just make it very short.
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让我简短的讲两句
14:45
It's a very great honor荣誉 for
me to welcome欢迎 onstage在舞台上
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我非常的荣幸能来到这个舞台
14:48
one of the greatest最大 Brazilian巴西人
musicians音乐家 of all time.
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巴西最好的音乐家之一
14:51
Please welcome欢迎 Naná Vasconcelos德瓦斯康塞洛斯.
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请欢迎 呐呐塞洛斯 “Naná Vasconcelos”
14:53
BGBG: Naná Vasconcelos德瓦斯康塞洛斯!
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呐呐塞洛斯 Naná Vasconcelos!
14:55
(Applause掌声)
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(掌声)
15:02
(Music音乐)
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(音乐)
19:19
Naná Vasconcelos德瓦斯康塞洛斯: Let's go to the jungle丛林.
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呐呐塞洛斯,让我们进入丛林
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(Applause掌声)
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Naná Vasconcelos - Music icon
A jazz icon since the late 1960s, Naná Vasconcelos contributed Latin percussion to some of the world’s most cerebral, soulful music.

Why you should listen
Growing up absorbing a range of music, from classical Brazilian Villa-Lobos to Jimi Hendrix,  Naná Vasconcelos became an innovative percussionist who could pick up a beat on almost any instrument. He came to specialize in the berimbau, the single-stringed Brazillian percussion instrument, and in the polyrhythms typical of his home in northern Brazil.
 
Starting his career with a young Milton Nascimiento, he became a frequent collaborator with what came to be called (deeply over-simply, of course) jazz intellectuals -- bandleaders like Don Cherry and Pat Metheny and crossover artists like saxophonist and composer Jan Garbarek who play with silence, improv and a broad palette of sound. He released a slew of his own records as a bandleader, and throughout his life he sought fresh sounds with new collaborators. For a taste, try his 2009 collaboration with Joyce and Mauricio Maestro, Visions of Dawn: The Paris 1976 Project.
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Vincent Moon - Filmmaker
Global wanderer Vincent Moon explores and documents vanishing traditions with his evocative ethnomusical films.

Why you should listen
Vincent Moon rose to acclaim through the Take Away Show, a blog showcasing his videos of indie rock musicians ranging from The National to REM, shot in intimate (and often unusual) locations with camera phones and other everyday technologies.
 
In 2008, Moon embarked on a worldwide journey with only the possessions and video tools he could carry on his back, eschewing profit and a traditional career for a nomadic lifestyle. He has wandered from Central Europe through Africa and into Northern Brazil, documenting and filming traditional music and sacred traditions for his Creative Commons web publishing initiative, Collection Petites Planètes. The New York Times wrote that "Moon proved it’s possible to reinvent an old, tired format (the music video) using the very thing (the Internet) that supposedly killed it.”
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