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David Whyte: A lyrical bridge between past, present and future
David Whyte: Lirski most između prošlosti, sadašnjosti i budućnosti
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Prepoznatljivim šarmom i tražeći uvid, David Whyte razmišlja o granicama prošlosti, sadašnjosti i budućnosti, uz dvije svoje pjesme nadahnute hodočašćem nećakinje duž El Camina de Santiaga de Compostele u Španjolskoj.
David Whyte - Poet, author
David Whyte writes at the intersection of interior and exterior worlds, what he calls the conversational nature of reality, bringing new territory into view with his distinctly personal style. Full bio
David Whyte writes at the intersection of interior and exterior worlds, what he calls the conversational nature of reality, bringing new territory into view with his distinctly personal style. Full bio
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The youthful perspective on the future,
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Mlad pogled na budućnost,
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the present perspective on the future
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sadašnji pogled na budućnost
00:19
and the future, mature
perspective on the future --
perspective on the future --
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i budući, zreo pogled na budućnost --
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I'd like to try and bring
all those three tenses together
all those three tenses together
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Večeras ću pokušati
povezati ta tri glagolska vremena
povezati ta tri glagolska vremena
00:28
in one identity tonight.
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u jedan identitet.
00:31
And you could say
that the poet, in many ways,
that the poet, in many ways,
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Možemo reći da pjesnik
na mnoge načine
na mnoge načine
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looks at what I call
"the conversational nature of reality."
"the conversational nature of reality."
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razmatra "razgovornu prirodu stvarnosti".
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And you ask yourself:
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Pitate se:
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What is the conversational
nature of reality?
nature of reality?
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Što je razgovorna priroda stvarnosti?
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The conversational nature
of reality is the fact
of reality is the fact
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Razgovorna je priroda stvarnosti
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that whatever you desire of the world --
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činjenica da što god želite od svijeta --
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whatever you desire of your partner
in a marriage or a love relationship,
in a marriage or a love relationship,
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što god želite od bračnog partnera
ili ljubavne veze,
ili ljubavne veze,
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whatever you desire of your children,
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što god želite od svoje djece,
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whatever you desire of the people
who work for you or with you,
who work for you or with you,
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što god želite od ljudi
koji rade za vas ili s vama,
koji rade za vas ili s vama,
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or your world --
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ili od vašeg svijeta...
01:01
will not happen exactly
as you would like it to happen.
as you would like it to happen.
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ne ostvaruje se onako
kako biste vi to voljeli.
kako biste vi to voljeli.
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But equally,
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Jednako tako,
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whatever the world desires of us --
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što god svijet želi od nas --
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whatever our partner,
our child, our colleague,
our child, our colleague,
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što god naš partner,
naše dijete, naš kolega,
naše dijete, naš kolega,
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our industry,
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naša industrija,
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our future demands of us,
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naša budućnost zahtijeva od nas,
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will also not happen.
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jednako se tako neće ostvariti.
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And what actually happens
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Ono što se ostvaruje
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is this frontier
between what you think is you
between what you think is you
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jest granica između onoga
što mislite da vi jeste
što mislite da vi jeste
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and what you think is not you.
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i što mislite da niste.
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And this frontier of actual meeting
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A ta granica stvarnog susreta
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between what we call a self
and what we call the world
and what we call the world
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između onoga što zovemo bićem
i onoga što zovemo svijetom
i onoga što zovemo svijetom
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is the only place, actually,
where things are real.
where things are real.
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zapravo je jedino mjesto
na kojem se događa stvarnost.
na kojem se događa stvarnost.
01:37
But it's quite astonishing,
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No zapanjujuće je
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how little time we spend
at this conversational frontier,
at this conversational frontier,
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kako malo vremena trošimo
na toj razgovornoj granici,
na toj razgovornoj granici,
01:43
and not abstracted away from it
in one strategy or another.
in one strategy or another.
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kada nismo odvojeni od nje
drugim strategijama.
drugim strategijama.
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I was coming through immigration,
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Prošle godine prolazio sam kroz
imigracijsku kontrolu,
imigracijsku kontrolu,
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which is quite a dramatic
border at the moment,
border at the moment,
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što je danas
jedna vrlo dramatična granica,
jedna vrlo dramatična granica,
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into the US last year,
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da bih ušao u SAD,
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and, you know, you get off
an international flight
an international flight
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i prošli ste međunarodni let
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across the Atlantic,
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preko Atlantskog oceana,
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and you're not in the best place;
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i ne osjećate se baš najbolje,
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you're not at your most
spiritually mature.
spiritually mature.
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niste baš duhovno zreli.
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You're quite impatient
with the rest of humanity, in fact.
with the rest of humanity, in fact.
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Zapravo, nemate baš strpljenja
za druge.
za druge.
02:12
So when you get up to immigration
with your shirt collar out
with your shirt collar out
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I kada dođete do imigracijske
sa zgužvanim ovratnikom
sa zgužvanim ovratnikom
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and a day's growth of beard,
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i jednodnevnom bradom,
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and you have very little patience,
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nemate baš strpljenja,
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and the immigration officer
looked at my passport
looked at my passport
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a imigracijski službenik pogleda putovnicu
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and said, "What do you do, Mr. Whyte?"
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i upita: "Čime se bavite, g. Whyte?"
02:26
I said, "I work with the conversational
nature of reality."
nature of reality."
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Rekao sam "Bavim se
razgovornom prirodom stvarnosti."
razgovornom prirodom stvarnosti."
02:31
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
02:36
And he leaned forward over his podium
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Nagnuo se preko pulta
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and he said, "I needed you last night."
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i rekao "Dobro biste mi došli sinoć".
02:42
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
02:44
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
02:48
And I said, "I'm sorry,
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Odgovorio sam "Žao mi je,
02:49
my powers as a poet
and philosopher only go so far.
and philosopher only go so far.
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kao pjesnik i filozof,
imam ograničene mogućnosti.
imam ograničene mogućnosti.
02:52
I'm not sure I can --"
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Nisam siguran da mogu --"
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But before we knew it,
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I prije nego što smo se snašli,
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we were into a conversation
about his marriage.
about his marriage.
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razgovarali smo o njegovom braku.
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Here he was in his uniform,
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Stajao je tamo u svojoj odori,
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and the interesting thing was,
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i što je najzanimljivije,
03:02
he was looking up and down
the row of officers
the row of officers
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stalno je pogledavao u ostale službenike
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to make sure his supervisor didn't see
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kako bi se uvjerio da njegov nadređeni
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that we was having a real conversation.
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ne vidi da vodi stvaran razgovor.
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But all of us live
at this conversational frontier
at this conversational frontier
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No svi mi živimo na toj
razgovornoj granici
razgovornoj granici
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with the future.
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prema budućnosti.
03:16
I'd like to put you in the shoes
of my Irish niece,
of my Irish niece,
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Želim vam predstaviti pogled
svoje irske nećakinje
svoje irske nećakinje
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Marlene McCormack,
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Marlene McCormack,
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standing on a cliff edge
on the western coast of Spain,
on the western coast of Spain,
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koja stoji na rubu litice
na zapadnoj obali Španjolske
na zapadnoj obali Španjolske
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overlooking the broad Atlantic.
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i gleda u veliki Atlantski ocean.
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Twenty-three years old,
she's just walked 500 miles
she's just walked 500 miles
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Ima dvadeset i tri godine
i upravo je propješačila 800 km
i upravo je propješačila 800 km
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from Saint Jean Pied de Port
on the French side of the Pyrenees,
on the French side of the Pyrenees,
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od Saint Jean Pied de Porta
na francuskoj strani Pireneja,
na francuskoj strani Pireneja,
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all the way across Northern Spain,
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preko cijele sjeverne Španjolske,
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on this very famous,
old and contemporary pilgrimage
old and contemporary pilgrimage
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na poznatom, starom i suvremenom,
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called the Camino de Santiago
de Compostela --
de Compostela --
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hodočašću Camino de Santiago
de Compostela --
de Compostela --
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the Path to Santiago of Compostela.
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Put do Santiaga de Compostele.
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And when you get to Santiago, actually,
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A kada dođete do Santiaga,
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it can be something of an anticlimax,
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možete doživjeti antiklimaks,
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because there are 100,000
people living there
people living there
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jer tamo živi 100.000 ljudi
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who are not necessarily applauding you
as you're coming into town.
as you're coming into town.
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koji vam ne salutiraju kada dođete u grad.
03:58
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
03:59
And 10,000 of them are trying to sell you
a memento of your journey.
a memento of your journey.
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A njih 10.000 pokušava vam prodati
uspomenu na putovanje.
uspomenu na putovanje.
04:04
But you do have the possibility
of going on for three more days
of going on for three more days
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Ali imate mogućnost
nastaviti još tri dana
nastaviti još tri dana
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to this place where Marlene stood,
called, in Spanish, Finisterre,
called, in Spanish, Finisterre,
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do tog mjesta gdje je Marlene stajala,
na španjolskom se zove Finisterre,
na španjolskom se zove Finisterre,
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in English, Finisterre,
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i na engleskom Finisterre,
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from the Latin,
meaning "the ends of the earth,"
meaning "the ends of the earth,"
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iz latinskog, što znači "rubovi zemlje",
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the place where ground turns to ocean;
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mjesto gdje se zemlja pretvara u ocean;
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the place where your present
turns into the future.
turns into the future.
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mjesto gdje se sadašnjost
pretvara u budućnost.
pretvara u budućnost.
04:30
And Marlene had walked this way --
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I Marlene je propješačila do tamo --
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she just graduated as a 23-year-old
from the University of Sligo
from the University of Sligo
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23-godišnjakinja koja je
na Sveučilištu u Sligu
na Sveučilištu u Sligu
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with a degree in Irish drama.
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diplomirala irsku dramu,
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And she said to me, "I don't think
the major corporations of the world
the major corporations of the world
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rekla mi je "Ne vjerujem
da će me velike svjetske korporacije
da će me velike svjetske korporacije
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will be knocking on my door."
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tražiti."
04:43
I said, "Listen, I've worked
in corporations all over the world
in corporations all over the world
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Rekao sam "Slušaj, radio sam
za korporacije diljem svijeta
za korporacije diljem svijeta
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for decades;
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desetljećima;
04:47
a degree in drama is what would most
prepare you for the adult --
prepare you for the adult --
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studij drame najbolje te priprema
za odrasli --
za odrasli --
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
04:52
corporate world."
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korporativni svijet."
04:53
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
04:55
But she said, "I'm not
interested in that, anyway.
interested in that, anyway.
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Ali rekla je:
"To me ionako ne zanima.
"To me ionako ne zanima.
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I don't want to teach drama,
I want to become a dramatist.
I want to become a dramatist.
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Ne želim predavati dramu,
želim postati dramaturginja.
želim postati dramaturginja.
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I want to write plays.
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Želim pisati drame.
05:04
So I walked the Camino
in order to give myself some courage,
in order to give myself some courage,
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Prošla sam Camino
da bih se ohrabrila,
da bih se ohrabrila,
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in order to walk into my future."
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da bih išla prema svojoj budućnosti."
05:10
And I said, "What was the most powerful
moment you had on the whole Camino,
moment you had on the whole Camino,
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Pitao sam: "Koji ti je bio
najmoćniji trenutak u Caminu,
najmoćniji trenutak u Caminu,
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the very most powerful moment?"
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onaj baš najsnažniji trenutak?"
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She said, "I had many powerful moments,
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Rekla je: "Doživjela sam
mnoge snažne trenutke,
mnoge snažne trenutke,
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but you know, the most powerful
moment was post-Camino,
moment was post-Camino,
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ali onaj najmoćniji je
kada prođeš Camino,
kada prođeš Camino,
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was the three days you go on from Santiago
and come to this cliff edge.
and come to this cliff edge.
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ona tri dana kada prođeš Santiago
i dođeš do ruba litice.
i dođeš do ruba litice.
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And you go through three rituals.
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Prolaziš kroz tri rituala.
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The first ritual is to eat
a tapas plate of scallops" --
a tapas plate of scallops" --
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Prvi je pojesti platu kapica" --
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or if you're vegetarian,
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ili ako ste vegetarijanac,
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to contemplate the scallop shell.
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diviti se školjkama kapica.
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
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Because the scallop shell has been
the icon and badge of your walk,
the icon and badge of your walk,
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Ipak su školjke kapica
postale simbol hodočašća
postale simbol hodočašća
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and every arrow
that you have seen along that way
that you have seen along that way
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i sve strelice duž puta
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has been pointing underneath
a scallop shell.
a scallop shell.
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prikazane su ispod školjki kapica.
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So really, this first ritual is saying:
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Stoga se prvi ritual sastoji od pitanja:
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How did you get to this place?
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Kako sam došao ovamo?
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How did you follow the path to get here?
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Koji sam put slijedio da bih došao?
05:56
How do you hold the conversation of life
when you feel unbesieged,
when you feel unbesieged,
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Kako razmišljaš o životu
kada se osjećaš neopsjednut,
kada se osjećaš neopsjednut,
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when you're unbullied,
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nenapadnut,
06:03
when you're left to yourself?
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kada si prepušten sebi?
06:04
How do you hold the conversation of life
that brings you to this place?
that brings you to this place?
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Kako razmišljaš o životu
koji te doveo ovamo?
koji te doveo ovamo?
06:10
And the second ritual is that you burn
something that you've brought.
something that you've brought.
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A drugi je ritual spaliti
nešto što si donio sa sobom.
nešto što si donio sa sobom.
06:15
I said, "What did you burn, Marlene?"
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Pitao sam: "Što si spalila, Marlene?"
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She said, "I burned a letter
and two postcards."
and two postcards."
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Rekla je: "Spalila sam pismo
i dvije razglednice."
i dvije razglednice."
06:20
I said, "Astonishing.
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Rekao sam: "Zapanjujuće.
06:21
Twenty-three years old and you have paper.
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Imaš dvadeset i tri godine
i uza sebe papir.
i uza sebe papir.
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I can't believe it."
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Ne mogu vjerovati."
06:25
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
06:26
I'm sure there's a Camino app
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Siguran sam da postoji
aplikacija za Camino
aplikacija za Camino
06:28
where you can just delete
a traumatic text, you know?
a traumatic text, you know?
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u kojoj možeš jednostavno
izbrisati traumatičnu poruku.
izbrisati traumatičnu poruku.
06:32
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
06:34
It will engage the flashlight,
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Koja pali svjetiljku,
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imbue it with color
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ispunjava je bojom
06:37
and disappear in a firework of flames.
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i nestaje u vatrometu.
06:42
But you either bring a letter
or you write one there,
or you write one there,
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Ali možeš donijeti pismo
ili ga napisati tamo
ili ga napisati tamo
06:45
and you burn it.
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pa spaliti.
06:46
And of course we know intuitively
what is on those letters and postcards.
what is on those letters and postcards.
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A intuitivno naravno znamo što piše
u tim pismima i na tim razglednicama.
u tim pismima i na tim razglednicama.
06:50
It's a form of affection and love
that is now no longer extant, yeah?
that is now no longer extant, yeah?
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To je oblik privrženosti i ljubavi
koja više ne postoji, zar ne?
koja više ne postoji, zar ne?
06:58
And then the third ritual:
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A zatim treći ritual:
07:01
between all these fires
are large piles of clothes.
are large piles of clothes.
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između tih ognjišta
velike su hrpe odjeće.
velike su hrpe odjeće.
07:06
And you leave an item of clothing
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Ostavite odjevni predmet
07:08
that has helped you to get to this place.
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koji vam je pomogao stići.
07:12
And I said to Marlene,
"What did you leave at the cliff edge?"
"What did you leave at the cliff edge?"
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Pitao sam Marlene:
"Što si ostavila na rubu litice?"
"Što si ostavila na rubu litice?"
07:15
She said, "I left my boots --
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Rekla je: "Ostavila sam čizme --
07:16
the very things
that I walked in, actually.
that I walked in, actually.
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upravo one u kojima sam došla.
07:18
They were beautiful boots,
I loved those boots,
I loved those boots,
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To su bile prekrasne čizme,
obožavala sam ih,
obožavala sam ih,
07:21
but they were finished
after seven weeks of walking.
after seven weeks of walking.
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ali bile su gotove nakon
sedam tjedana hoda.
sedam tjedana hoda.
07:24
So I walked away in my trainers,
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Stoga sam otišla u tenisicama,
07:25
but I left my boots there."
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a čizme sam ostavila tamo."
07:27
She said, "It was really incredible.
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Rekla je: "Bilo je nevjerojatno.
07:29
The most powerful moment was,
the sun was going down,
the sun was going down,
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Najsnažniji trenutak bio je
kada je sunce zalazilo,
kada je sunce zalazilo,
07:33
but the full moon was coming up behind me.
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a pun mjesec izlazio je iza mene.
07:37
And the full moon was illuminated
by the dying sun in such a powerful way
by the dying sun in such a powerful way
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Pun mjesec bio je osvijetljen
zalazećim suncem na tako moćan način
zalazećim suncem na tako moćan način
07:42
that even after the sun
had dropped below the horizon,
had dropped below the horizon,
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da je čak i nakon što je
zašlo iza obzora,
zašlo iza obzora,
07:45
the moon could still see that sun.
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mjesec i dalje vidio to sunce.
07:49
And I had a moon shadow,
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Imala sam sjenu od mjeseca,
07:52
and I was looking at my moon shadow
walking across the Atlantic,
walking across the Atlantic,
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i gledala sam svoju mjesečevu sjenu
kako ide preko Atlantika,
kako ide preko Atlantika,
07:57
across this ocean.
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preko tog oceana.
07:59
And I thought,
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I pomislila sam:
08:00
'Oh! That's my new self
going into the future.'
going into the future.'
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"O pa to sam nova ja
koja odlazim u budućnost."
koja odlazim u budućnost."
08:03
But suddenly I realized
the sun was falling further.
the sun was falling further.
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Odjedanput sam shvatila
da sunce i dalje zalazi.
da sunce i dalje zalazi.
08:09
The moon was losing its reflection,
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Mjesec je gubio odsjaj,
08:13
and my shadow was disappearing.
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a moja je sjena nestajala.
08:15
The most powerful moment
I had on the whole Camino
I had on the whole Camino
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Najsnažniji trenutak
koji sam doživjela u Caminu
koji sam doživjela u Caminu
08:18
was when I realized I myself
had to walk across that unknown sea
had to walk across that unknown sea
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bio je kada sam shvatila
da moram prijeći to nepoznato more
da moram prijeći to nepoznato more
08:24
into my future."
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prema svojoj budućnosti."
08:27
Well, I was so taken by this story,
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Toliko me obuzela ta priča
08:29
I wrote this piece for her.
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da sam napisao pjesmu za nju.
08:31
We were driving at the time;
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Vozili smo se;
08:32
we got home, I sat on the couch,
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došli smo kući, sjeo sam na kauč
08:34
I wrote until two in the morning --
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i pisao do dva ujutro --
08:36
everyone had gone to bed --
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svi su otišli na spavanje --
08:37
and I gave it to Marlene
at breakfast time.
at breakfast time.
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i dao sam je Marlene za doručkom.
08:40
It's called, "Finisterre,"
for Marlene McCormack.
for Marlene McCormack.
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Zove se "Finisterre"
za Marlene McCormack.
za Marlene McCormack.
08:46
"The road in the end
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"Cesta na kraju
08:47
the road in the end
taking the path the sun had taken
taking the path the sun had taken
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cesta na kraju
ide putem sunca
ide putem sunca
08:52
the road in the end
taking the path the run had taken
taking the path the run had taken
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cesta na kraju
ide putem hoda
ide putem hoda
08:56
into the western sea
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u zapadno more
08:58
the road in the end
taking the path the sun had taken
taking the path the sun had taken
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cesta na kraju
ide putem sunca
ide putem sunca
09:01
into the western sea
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u zapadno more
09:03
and the moon
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a mjesec
09:04
the moon rising behind you
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mjesec koji se diže iza tebe
09:07
as you stood where ground turned to ocean:
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dok stojiš na mjestu
gdje zemlja postaje ocean:
gdje zemlja postaje ocean:
sada nema puta prema budućnosti
09:11
no way to your future now
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09:13
no way to your future now
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sada nema puta prema budućnosti
09:14
except the way your shadow could take,
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osim onoga kojim bi išla tvoja sjena,
09:17
walking before you across water,
going where shadows go,
going where shadows go,
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koja ide ispred tebe preko vode,
ide kamo sjene idu,
ide kamo sjene idu,
09:20
no way to make sense of a world
that wouldn't let you pass
that wouldn't let you pass
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ne može se objasniti svijet
koji te ne bi pustio da prođeš
koji te ne bi pustio da prođeš
09:25
except to call an end
to the way you had come,
to the way you had come,
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osim da proglasiš kraj
puta kojim dolaziš,
puta kojim dolaziš,
09:30
to take out each letter you had brought
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izvadiš svako pismo koje donosiš
09:35
and light their illumined corners;
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i zapališ njegove osvijetljene rubove;
09:38
and to read them as they drifted
on the late western light;
on the late western light;
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i čitaš dok ga nosi
kasno zapadno svjetlo;
kasno zapadno svjetlo;
09:43
to empty your bags
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isprazniš torbe
09:44
to empty your bags;
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isprazniš torbe
09:45
to sort this and to leave that
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nešto razvrstaš, a nešto ostaviš
09:48
to sort this and to leave that;
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nešto razvrstaš, a nešto ostaviš;
09:52
to promise what you needed
to promise all along
to promise all along
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obećaš ono što si davno trebao
09:56
to promise what you needed
to promise all along,
to promise all along,
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obećaš ono što si davno trebao,
09:59
and to abandon the shoes
that brought you here
that brought you here
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i napustiš cipele kojima si došao
10:03
right at the water's edge,
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tamo na obali,
10:05
not because you had given up
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ne zato što odustaješ
10:07
not because you had given up
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ne zato što odustaješ
10:09
but because now,
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već zato što sada
10:10
you would find a different way to tread,
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znaš drugi put kojim bi išao,
10:13
and because, through it all,
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i zato što nakon svega,
10:14
part of you would still walk on,
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dio tebe želi ići dalje,
10:17
no matter how,
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na bilo koji način,
10:18
over the waves."
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preko valova."
10:22
"Finisterre."
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"Finisterre."
10:23
For Marlene McCormack --
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Za Marlene McCormack --
10:25
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
10:35
who has already had
her third play performed
her third play performed
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čija je treća predstava izvedena
10:37
in off-off-off-off-Broadway --
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u alternativnom alternativnom kazalištu --
10:41
in Dublin.
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u Dublinu.
10:42
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
10:43
But she's on her way.
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Ali slijedi svoj put.
10:45
This is the last piece.
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Ovo je zadnje djelo.
10:47
This is about the supposed arrival
at the sum of all of our endeavors.
at the sum of all of our endeavors.
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Ovo je pretpostavljeno ostvarenje
svih naših nastojanja.
svih naših nastojanja.
10:53
In Santiago itself --
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Dolazak u sam Santiago --
10:55
it could be Santiago,
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to može biti Santiago,
10:56
it could be Mecca,
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može biti Meka,
10:57
it could be Varanasi,
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može biti Benares,
10:59
it could be Kyoto,
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može biti Kyoto,
11:00
it could be that threshold
you've set for yourself,
you've set for yourself,
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može biti granica koju ste si postavili,
11:05
the disturbing approach
to the consummation of all your goals.
to the consummation of all your goals.
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uznemirujuć pristup
ispunjenju svih ciljeva.
ispunjenju svih ciljeva.
11:13
And one of the difficulties
about walking into your life,
about walking into your life,
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A jedna od teškoća
kod ulaska u život,
kod ulaska u život,
11:17
about coming into this body,
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ulaska u tijelo,
11:19
into this world fully,
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potpuno u svijet,
11:22
is you start to realize
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jest kada shvatite
11:24
that you have manufactured
three abiding illusions
three abiding illusions
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da ste proizveli tri trajne iluzije
11:30
that the rest of humanity has shared
with you since the beginning of time.
with you since the beginning of time.
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koje čovječanstvo dijeli
otpočetka svijeta.
otpočetka svijeta.
11:34
And the first illusion
is that you can somehow construct a life
is that you can somehow construct a life
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Prva je iluzija da nekako
stvarate život
stvarate život
11:39
in which you are not vulnerable.
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u kojem niste ranjivi.
11:42
You can somehow be immune
to all of the difficulties
to all of the difficulties
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Na neki način možete biti imuni
na sve poteškoće
na sve poteškoće
11:47
and ill health and losses
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i bolesti i gubitke
11:51
that humanity has been subject to
since the beginning of time.
since the beginning of time.
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kojima je čovječanstvo podložno
otpočetka svijeta.
otpočetka svijeta.
11:56
If we look out at the natural world,
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Ako pogledamo prirodni svijet,
11:57
there's no part of that world
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nema niti jednog njegovog dijela
11:59
that doesn't go through cycles
of, first, incipience,
of, first, incipience,
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koji ne ide kroz cikluse:
prvo je početak
prvo je početak
12:03
or hiddenness,
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ili skrivenost,
12:04
but then growth, fullness,
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zatim rast, potpunost,
12:07
but then a beautiful,
to begin with, disappearance,
to begin with, disappearance,
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za početak, prekrasno nestajanje,
12:11
and then a very austere,
full disappearance.
full disappearance.
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a zatim vrlo surovo, potpuno nestajanje.
12:14
We look at that, we say,
"That's beautiful,
"That's beautiful,
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Gledamo u to i kažemo:
"To je prekrasno,
"To je prekrasno,
12:16
but can I just have the first half
of the equation, please?
of the equation, please?
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ali mogu li dobiti
samo prvi dio jednadžbe?
samo prvi dio jednadžbe?
12:20
And when the disappearance is happening,
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A kada dođe do nestajanja,
12:22
I'll close my eyes and wait
for the new cycle to come around."
for the new cycle to come around."
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zatvorit ću oči i
čekati sljedeći ciklus."
čekati sljedeći ciklus."
12:25
Which means most human beings
are at war with reality
are at war with reality
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Što znači da većina ljudi
ratuje sa stvarnošću
ratuje sa stvarnošću
12:29
50 percent of the time.
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50 posto svog vremena.
12:32
The mature identity
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Zreli identitet
12:37
is able to live in the full cycle.
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može živjeti u punom krugu.
12:40
The second illusion is,
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Druga je iluzija
12:42
I can construct a life
in which I will not have my heart broken.
in which I will not have my heart broken.
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da mogu izgraditi život
u kojem moje srce neće biti slomljeno.
u kojem moje srce neće biti slomljeno.
12:47
Romance is the first place
we start to do it.
we start to do it.
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Zaljubljenost je prva točka.
12:49
When you're at the beginning
of a new romance or a new marriage,
of a new romance or a new marriage,
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Kada ste na početku
nove veze ili novog braka,
nove veze ili novog braka,
12:53
you say, "I have found the person
who will not break my heart."
who will not break my heart."
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govorite: "Pronašao sam osobu
koja mi neće slomiti srce."
koja mi neće slomiti srce."
12:57
I'm sorry;
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Žao mi je:
12:59
you have chosen them out unconsciously
for that exact core competency.
for that exact core competency.
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odabrali ste ju nesvjesno
upravo zbog te sposobnosti.
upravo zbog te sposobnosti.
13:04
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
13:05
They will break your heart.
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Slomit će vam srce.
13:07
Why?
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Zašto?
13:08
Because you care about them.
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Zato što vam je stalo do nje.
13:10
You look at parenting, yeah?
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Pogledajmo roditeljstvo.
13:12
Parenting: "I will be
the perfect mother and father."
the perfect mother and father."
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Roditeljstvo: "Bit ću
savršena majka, savršen otac."
savršena majka, savršen otac."
13:16
Your children will break your heart.
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Djeca će vam slomiti srce.
13:18
And they don't even have to do
anything spectacular or dramatic.
anything spectacular or dramatic.
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A ne moraju nužno učiniti
ništa spektakularno ni dramatično.
ništa spektakularno ni dramatično.
13:23
But usually, they do do something
spectacular or dramatic --
spectacular or dramatic --
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Obično učine nešto
spektakularno ili dramatično...
spektakularno ili dramatično...
13:27
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
13:28
to break your heart.
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i slome vam srce.
13:30
And then they live with you
as spies and saboteurs for years,
as spies and saboteurs for years,
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I žive s vama kao
špijuni ili saboteri godinama,
špijuni ili saboteri godinama,
13:33
watching your every psychological move,
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prate svaki vaš psihološki korak,
13:36
and spotting your every weakness.
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i uočavaju svaku vašu slabost.
13:39
And one day,
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I jednog dana,
13:40
when they're about 14 years old,
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kada napune 14 godina,
13:42
with your back turned to them,
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dok ste im okrenuti leđima
13:43
in the kitchen,
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u kuhinji,
13:45
while you're making something for them --
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dok im nešto pripremate --
13:47
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
13:48
the psychological stiletto goes in.
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psihološki nož dolazi na scenu.
13:50
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
13:53
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
13:58
And you say, "How did you know
exactly where to place it?"
exactly where to place it?"
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Pitate: "Kako si znao kamo ubosti?"
14:02
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
14:03
And they say,
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A on kaže:
14:04
"I've been watching you for --
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"Pratim te već --
14:06
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
14:07
a good few years."
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nekoliko godina."
14:11
And then we hope that our armored,
professional personalities
professional personalities
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Zatim se nadamo da smo
stvorili profesionalni oklop
stvorili profesionalni oklop
14:17
will prevent us from having our
heart broken in work.
heart broken in work.
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koji će nas zaštititi od
slomljenog srca na poslu.
slomljenog srca na poslu.
14:20
But if you're sincere about your work,
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Ali ako ste iskreni u svom poslu,
14:23
it should break your heart.
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trebao bi vam slomiti srce.
14:26
You should get to thresholds
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Trebate doći do granica
14:27
where you do not know how to proceed.
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gdje ne znate kako dalje.
14:32
You do not know how to get
from here to there.
from here to there.
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Ne znate kako doći
od točke A do točke B.
od točke A do točke B.
14:36
What does that do?
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Čemu to služi?
14:37
It puts you into a proper
relationship with reality.
relationship with reality.
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Stavlja vas
u ispravan odnos sa stvarnošću.
u ispravan odnos sa stvarnošću.
14:41
Why?
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Zašto?
14:42
Because you have to ask for help.
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Zato što morate tražiti pomoć.
14:50
Heartbreak.
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Slomljeno srce.
14:52
We don't have a choice about heartbreak,
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Nemamo izbora oko slomljenog srca,
14:54
we only have a choice
of having our hearts broken
of having our hearts broken
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imamo samo izbor
da nam srce slome
da nam srce slome
14:58
over people and things and projects
that we deeply care about.
that we deeply care about.
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ljudi i stvari i projekti
za koje marimo.
za koje marimo.
15:05
And the last illusion is,
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A zadnja je iluzija
15:07
I can somehow plan enough
and arrange things
and arrange things
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da mogu dovoljno planirati i organizirati
15:11
that I will be able to see
the path to the end
the path to the end
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tako da vidim cestu do kraja
15:15
right from where I'm standing,
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upravo s ovog mjesta
na kojem stojim,
na kojem stojim,
15:17
right to the horizon.
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sve do obzora.
15:20
But when you think about it,
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Ali kada razmislite malo,
15:22
the only environment
in which that would be true
in which that would be true
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jedino okruženje u kojemu
to može biti tako
to može biti tako
15:25
would be a flat desert,
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jest ravna pustinja,
15:28
empty of any other life.
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bez ikakvog oblika života.
15:33
But even in a flat desert,
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No čak i u praznoj pustinji,
15:34
the curvature of the earth
would take the path away from you.
would take the path away from you.
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zaobljenost zemlje oduzela bi vam put.
15:38
So, no;
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Stoga, ne;
15:40
you see the path,
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vidite put,
15:41
and then you don't
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a zatim više ne,
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and then you see it again.
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zatim ga opet vidite.
15:45
So this is "Santiago,"
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To je, dakle, "Santiago",
15:48
the supposed arrival,
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pretpostavljeni dolazak,
15:51
which is a kind of return
to the beginning all at the same time.
to the beginning all at the same time.
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koji je istovremeno oblik povratka
na početak.
na početak.
15:55
We have this experience of the journey,
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Imamo doživljaj putovanja,
15:58
which is in all of our great
spiritual traditions,
spiritual traditions,
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koji se pojavljuje u svim
duhovnim tradicijama,
duhovnim tradicijama,
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of pilgrimage.
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hodočašća.
16:02
But just by actually standing
in the ground of your life fully,
in the ground of your life fully,
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Ali ako potpuno
stojite na zemlji
stojite na zemlji
16:06
not trying to abstract yourself
into a strategic future
into a strategic future
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i ne pokušavate se
strateški dohvatiti budućnosti,
strateški dohvatiti budućnosti,
16:10
that's actually just an escape
from present heartbreak;
from present heartbreak;
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to je zapravo samo bijeg
od slomljenog srca u sadašnjosti;
od slomljenog srca u sadašnjosti;
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the ability to stand
in the ground of your life
in the ground of your life
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mogućnost stajanja na zemlji
16:16
and to look at the horizon
that is pulling you --
that is pulling you --
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i gledanja u obzor koji vas privlači...
16:20
in that moment,
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u tom trenutku,
16:21
you are the whole journey.
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vi ste cijelo putovanje.
16:23
You are the whole conversation.
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Vi ste cijeli razgovor.
16:27
"Santiago."
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"Santiago".
16:28
"The road seen, then not seen
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"Cesta koju vidiš pa ne vidiš
16:31
the road seen, then not seen
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cesta koju vidiš pa ne vidiš
16:36
the hillside hiding then revealing
the way you should take
the way you should take
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brdo koje skriva pa otkriva
put kojim moraš ići
put kojim moraš ići
16:40
the road seen, then not seen
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cesta koju vidiš pa ne vidiš
16:43
the hillside hiding then revealing
the way you should take,
the way you should take,
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brdo koje skriva pa otkriva
put kojim moraš ići,
put kojim moraš ići,
16:48
the road dropping away from you
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cesta koja te odvlači od tebe
16:52
as if leaving you to walk on thin air,
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kao da te stavlja na tanak led,
16:57
then catching you,
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zatim hvata,
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catching you,
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hvata,
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holding you up,
when you thought you would fall,
when you thought you would fall,
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zadržava
kad pomisliš da padaš,
kad pomisliš da padaš,
17:02
catching you,
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hvata,
17:03
holding you up,
when you thought you would fall,
when you thought you would fall,
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zadržava
kad pomisliš da padaš,
kad pomisliš da padaš,
17:05
and the way forward
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a put prema naprijed
17:07
the way forward always in the end
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put prema naprijed uvijek na kraju
17:11
the way that you came,
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put kojim si došao,
17:12
the way forward always in the end
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put prema naprijed uvijek na kraju
17:14
the way that you came,
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put kojim si došao,
17:15
the way that you followed,
the way that carried you into your future,
the way that carried you into your future,
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put koji si slijedio
put koji te nosi u budućnost,
put koji te nosi u budućnost,
17:19
that brought you to this place,
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koji te doveo ovamo,
17:20
that brought you to this place,
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koji te doveo ovamo,
17:23
no matter that it sometimes
had to take your promise from you,
had to take your promise from you,
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bez obzira što je ponekad
tražio obećanja,
tražio obećanja,
17:28
no matter that it always
had to break your heart along the way:
had to break your heart along the way:
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bez obzira što uvijek
lomi tvoje srce;
lomi tvoje srce;
17:34
the sense
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osjećaj
17:35
the sense of having walked
from deep inside yourself
from deep inside yourself
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osjećaj da si došao
iz dubine sebe
iz dubine sebe
17:40
out into the revelation,
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u otkrivenje,
17:43
to have risked yourself
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da si se doveo u opasnost
17:45
for something that seemed to stand
both inside you and far beyond you,
both inside you and far beyond you,
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radi nečega što je postojalo
u tebi i daleko izvan tebe,
u tebi i daleko izvan tebe,
17:51
and that called you back in the end
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i što te dovelo natrag na kraju
17:53
to the only road you could follow,
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na jedini put kojim možeš ići,
17:56
walking as you did, in your rags of love
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dok hodaš kao uvijek u dronjcima ljubavi
18:00
walking as you did, in your rags of love
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dok hodaš kao uvijek u dronjcima ljubavi
18:03
and speaking in the voice that by night
became a prayer for safe arrival,
became a prayer for safe arrival,
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i govoriš glasom koji noću
postaje molitva za siguran uspjeh,
postaje molitva za siguran uspjeh,
18:10
so that one day
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tako da jednog dana
18:12
one day you realized
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jednog dana shvatiš
18:14
that what you wanted
had actually already happened
had actually already happened
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da se sve što si želio
već ostvarilo
već ostvarilo
18:18
one day you realized
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jednog dana shvatiš
18:20
that what you wanted
had actually already happened
had actually already happened
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da se sve što si želio
već ostvarilo
već ostvarilo
18:22
and long ago
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i to davno
18:23
and in the dwelling place
in which you lived before you began,
in which you lived before you began,
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i na mjestu na kojem si
prije živio, s kojeg si krenuo
prije živio, s kojeg si krenuo
18:27
and that
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i da
18:28
and that every step along the way,
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i da si svakim korakom
18:31
every step along the way,
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svakim korakom
18:33
you had carried the heart
and the mind and the promise
and the mind and the promise
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nosio srce i um i obećanje
18:36
that first set you off
and then drew you on,
and then drew you on,
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koji su te pokrenuli i održavali
18:39
and that
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i da
18:41
and that you were more marvelous
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i da si bio čarobniji
18:45
in your simple wish to find a way
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u jednostavnoj želji da pronađeš put
18:48
you were more marvelous
in your simple wish to find a way
in your simple wish to find a way
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bio si čarobniji
u jednostavnoj želji da pronađeš put
u jednostavnoj želji da pronađeš put
18:52
than the gilded roofs
of any destination you could reach
of any destination you could reach
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od pozlaćenih krovova
bilo kojeg odredišta
bilo kojeg odredišta
18:56
you were more marvelous
in that simple wish to find a way
in that simple wish to find a way
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bio si čarobniji
u jednostavnoj želji da pronađeš put
u jednostavnoj želji da pronađeš put
19:00
than the gilded roofs
of any destination you could reach:
of any destination you could reach:
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od pozlaćenih krovova
bilo kojeg odredišta:
bilo kojeg odredišta:
19:03
as if, all along,
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kao da si cijelim putem
19:04
you had thought the end point
might be a city with golden domes,
might be a city with golden domes,
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mislio da je krajnji cilj
grad sa zlatnim kupolama,
grad sa zlatnim kupolama,
19:07
and cheering crowds,
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i razdragano mnoštvo,
19:08
and turning the corner
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a kad si skrenuo iza ugla
19:10
at what you thought
was the end of the road,
was the end of the road,
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tamo gdje si mislio da je kraj puta,
19:15
you found just a simple reflection,
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stajao je jednostavan odraz,
19:19
and a clear revelation
beneath the face looking back
beneath the face looking back
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i jasno otkrivenje
ispod lica koja te gleda,
ispod lica koja te gleda,
19:22
and beneath it another invitation,
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i ispod toga još jedan poziv,
19:27
all in one glimpse
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sve u jednom pogledu
19:29
all in one glimpse:
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sve u jednom pogledu:
19:31
like a person
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poput osobe
19:33
like a person or a place
you had sought forever
you had sought forever
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poput osobe ili mjesta
koje oduvijek tražiš
koje oduvijek tražiš
19:37
like a person or a place
you had sought forever,
you had sought forever,
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poput osobe ili mjesta
koje oduvijek tražiš,
koje oduvijek tražiš,
19:40
like a bold field of freedom
that beckoned you beyond;
that beckoned you beyond;
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poput hrabrog polja slobode
koje te doziva;
koje te doziva;
19:45
like another life
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poput drugog života
19:46
like another life,
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poput drugog života,
19:48
and the road
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a cesta
19:49
the road still stretching on."
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cesta nastavlja dalje."
19:54
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
19:55
Thank you.
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Hvala.
19:56
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
20:01
Thank you.
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Hvala.
20:02
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
20:07
Thank you very much. Thank you.
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Puno hvala. Hvala.
20:10
You're very kind. Thank you.
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Jako ste dragi. Hvala.
20:11
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
David Whyte - Poet, authorDavid Whyte writes at the intersection of interior and exterior worlds, what he calls the conversational nature of reality, bringing new territory into view with his distinctly personal style.
Why you should listen
David Whyte grew up amid the grounded practicalities of Yorkshire, England, of a very imaginative, storytelling Irish mother. Not choosing between these two sides is what perhaps gave him his first insight into the complexities of human identity. He is quoted as saying that all of his poetry and philosophy is based on what he calls "the conversational nature of reality." His time as a scientist and naturalist fuide in the Galapagos Islands led him to explore what he calls the frontier nature of human identity. Whyte draws from this diverse background and a deep philosophical curiosity to craft poetry and prose that is at once highly relatable, yet altogether new. His work spans the worlds of literature, philosophy and organizational leadership, making him a clear, wise voice in an increasingly complex world.
His books include The Sea in You: Twenty Poems of Requited and Unrequited Love; The Three Marriages: Reimagining Work, Self and Relationship; River Flow: New & Selected Poems; Consolations: The Solace, Nourishment and Underlying Meaning of Everyday Words and Pilgrim.
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