Celeste Headlee: 10 ways to have a better conversation
Celeste Headlee: 10 reglas para conversar mejor
Celeste Headlee's years of interview experience give her a unique perspective on what makes for a good conversation. Full bio
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a alguien en Facebook
unfriended someone on Facebook
about politics or religion,
sobre política o religión,
know at least one person that you avoid
al menos a una persona que evitan
conversar con ella?
to talk to them?
una conversación cortés,
to have a polite conversation,
de Higgins en "My fair Lady":
of Henry Higgins in "My Fair Lady":
y la anti-vacunación, esos temas
and anti-vaxxing, those subjects --
to devolve into an argument,
derivar en una discusión
can't speak to one another
no pueden hablarse entre sí
de los temas tiene
for it and against it, it's not normal.
y a otro en contra. Eso no es normal.
of 10,000 American adults,
de 10 000 adultos de EE.UU.
we are more polarized,
estamos más polarizados,
not listening to each other.
no escuchamos al resto.
sobre dónde vivir,
who our friends are going to be,
quiénes serán nuestros amigos,
we're not listening to each other.
que no escuchamos al resto.
between talking and listening,
un equilibrio entre hablar y escuchar,
we lost that balance.
perdimos ese equilibrio.
se debe a la tecnología.
either have in your hands
ya sea en sus manos
para usarlos rápidamente.
grab them really quickly.
envían más de 100 SMS al día.
send more than a hundred texts a day.
are more likely to text their friends
son para escribir a sus amigos
to them face to face.
en The Atlantic.
secundaria, Paul Barnwell.
named Paul Barnwell.
una tarea de lenguaje.
a communication project.
un tema específico sin usar notas.
on a specific subject without using notes.
that conversational competence
la competencia verbal
most overlooked skill we fail to teach.
más ignorada que fracasamos en enseñar.
with ideas and each other through screens,
entre sí con ideas a través de pantallas,
communications skills.
comunicación interpersonal.
but we have to ask ourselves:
pero tenemos que preguntarnos:
coherent, confident conversation?"
una conversación coherente y firme?"
conversando con la gente:
profesores de pre-escolar,
I talk to people that I don't like.
Y con gente que no me agrada.
deeply on a personal level.
con gente que estoy en desacuerdo
a great conversation with them.
una gran conversación con ellos.
or so teaching you how to talk
10 minutos enseñándoles a conversar
a lot of advice on this,
varios consejos sobre esto,
to discuss in advance,
para discutir con anticipación,
that you're paying attention,
mostrar que prestan atención,
or summarize it.
how to show you're paying attention
a mostrar que se presta atención
same skills as a professional interviewer
como entrevistadora profesional
how to interview people,
cómo entrevistar a la gente,
learn how to be better conversationalists.
a aprender a ser mejores conversando.
without getting bored,
tiempo, sin aburrirse,
without offending anybody.
grandes conversaciones.
We know what it's like.
Sabemos cómo son.
walk away feeling engaged and inspired,
sintiéndote involucrado e inspirado,
like you've made a real connection
has hecho una conexión real
can't be like that.
interacciones no puedan ser así.
I'm going to walk you through all of them,
Y los guiaré a través de ellas.
one of them and master it,
una de ellas y la dominan,
mejores conversaciones.
just set down your cell phone
que dejen su móvil,
or whatever is in your hand.
o lo que que tengan en las manos.
you had with your boss.
que tuvieron con su jefe.
you're going to have for dinner.
van a comer para cenar.
of the conversation,
y mitad ausente.
and half out of it.
or argument or pushback or growth,
aportación o crecimiento,
why I don't allow pundits on my show:
no permito sabiondos en mi show:
hate Obama and food stamps and abortion.
al programa de comida y al aborto.
las petroleras y a Dick Cheney.
and Dick Cheney.
assuming that you have something to learn.
suponiendo que tienen algo que aprender.
a setting aside of oneself.
de ponerse uno mismo a un lado.
setting aside your personal opinion.
a un lado las opiniones personales.
less and less vulnerable
menos vulnerable
to open up the inner recesses
a abrir las represiones interiores
something to learn.
tienen algo que aprender.
knows something that you don't."
conocer, sabrá algo que tú no conoces".
what, when, where, why or how.
cuándo, dónde, por qué o cómo.
you're going to get a simple answer out.
van a obtener una respuesta simple.
powerful word in that sentence,
más enérgica en esa oración,
sería Sí o No me asusté.
"Yes, I was" or "No, I wasn't."
"Sí, lo estaba".
They're the ones that know.
"What was that like?"
como, "¿Cómo fue eso?"
for a moment and think about it,
detenerse un tiempo y pensar en ello,
a much more interesting response.
mucho más interesante.
will come into your mind
pensamientos a su mente
go out of your mind.
salir de su mente.
for several minutes
está hablando por minutos
and asks a question
y hace una pregunta
or it's already been answered.
o que ya ha sido contestada.
stopped listening two minutes ago
dejado de escuchar hace 2 minutos
of this really clever question,
realmente ingeniosa,
and determined to say that.
y determinado a decirla.
a conversation with someone,
conversando con alguien,
a Hugh Jackman en una cafetería.
that we met Hugh Jackman in a coffee shop.
are going to come to you.
say that you don't know.
digan que no lo saben.
especially on NPR,
especialmente en NPR
that they're going on the record,
de que está siendo grabada,
about what they claim to be an expert in
en lo que aseguran ser expertos
saber con seguridad.
your experience with theirs.
sus experiencias con las de ellos.
about having lost a family member,
perdida de un familiar,
you lost a family member.
que perdieron un familiar.
they're having at work,
how much you hate your job.
it is not about you.
to prove how amazing you are
para probar cuán sorprendente son
cuál era si CI, y él dijo:
what his IQ was, and he said,
sobre su CI es un perdedor".
about their IQs are losers."
a promotional opportunity.
una oportunidad promocional.
and it's really boring,
y es en verdad aburrido,
or in conversations with our kids,
de trabajo o con nuestros hijos.
over and over.
una y otra vez.
to come up with in your mind.
What they care about is you.
Les importan Uds.
but it is the most important one.
pero es la más importante.
really important people have said
personas importantes han dicho
the number one most important skill
la capacidad más importante
you're not learning."
no estás aprendiendo".
ever listened his way out of a job."
despedido por escuchar demasiado".
I'm not interested in.
en lo que no esté interesado.
at about 225 word per minute,
unas 225 palabras por minuto,
500 words per minute.
500 palabras por minutos.
those other 275 words.
llenando esas otras 275 palabras.
it takes effort and energy
esfuerzo y energía
you're not in a conversation.
no están en una conversación.
barely related sentences
oraciones apenas relacionadas
with the intent to understand.
con la intención de entender.
and it's this one: Be brief.
y es esta: Sean breves.
short enough to retain interest,
corta como para captar interés,
the subject. -- My Sister]
para cubrir el tema – mi hermana]
basic concept, and it is this one:
concepto básico, y es este:
with a very famous grandfather,
un abuelo muy famoso,
to talk to my grandparents,
hablar con mis abuelos,
my mother would come over to us,
a Miss America.
He's a Russian ballet dancer."
Él es un bailarín de ballet ruso".
amazing thing about them.
sorprendente y oculto en sí.
me hace una mejor conductora.
it's what makes me a better host.
as often as I possibly can,
tanto como pueda,
para sorprenderme,
be prepared to be amazed.
preparadas para sorprenderse.
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Celeste Headlee - Writer and radio hostCeleste Headlee's years of interview experience give her a unique perspective on what makes for a good conversation.
Why you should listen
Celeste Headlee hosts a daily news/talk show, On Second Thought, on Georgia Public Broadcasting.
Headlee has worked in public radio since 1999, as a reporter, host and correspondent. She was the Midwest Correspondent for NPR before becoming the co-host of the PRI show "The Takeaway.” After that, she guest hosted a number of NPR shows including "Tell Me More,” "Talk of the Nation,” "Weekend All Things Considered” and "Weekend Edition". Headlee also anchored election coverage for PBS World in 2012 and was a regular guest on CNN.
Headlee holds multiple degrees in music and still performs as a professional opera singer. She appears on the album “Classically Blue” from gospel artist Lea Gilmore. She's the granddaughter of composer William Grant Still.
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