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Marina Abramović: An art made of trust, vulnerability and connection
Marina Abramović: Umjetnost satkana od povjerenja, ranjivosti i povezanosti
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Umjetnost Marine Abramović ruši zid između publike i umjetnika u potrazi za povišenom sviješću i osobnom promjenom. U svom revolucionarnom djelu "Umjetnik je prisutan" samo je sjedila u stolcu nasuprot publici osam sati dnevno, što je polučilo dirljive i moćne rezultate. Njezino najodvažnije djelo možda tek dolazi - u obliku opsežnog instituta za umjetnost posvećenog eksperimentiranju i obavljanju jednostavnih radnji koje radimo potpuno koncentrirani. Marina tvrdi: "Ništa se ne mijenja ako uvijek radimo sve po starom. Moja metoda temelji se na tome da radim stvari kojih se bojim, nepoznate stvari, idem tamo gdje nitko prije mene nije kročio."
Marina Abramović - Performance artist
In her performances she’s been cut, burned, and nearly shot -- but Marina Abramović's boldest work yet is a gargantuan institute dedicated to transformation through art. Full bio
In her performances she’s been cut, burned, and nearly shot -- but Marina Abramović's boldest work yet is a gargantuan institute dedicated to transformation through art. Full bio
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Now...
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Sada...
00:21
let's go back in time.
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vratimo se u prošlost.
00:24
It's 1974.
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Godina je 1974.
00:29
There is the gallery somewhere
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U nekoj galeriji
00:33
in the world,
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negdje u svijetu
00:37
and there is a young girl, age 23,
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mlada 23-ogodišnjakinja
00:40
standing in the middle of the space.
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stoji nasred nekog prostora.
00:44
In the front of her is a table.
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Ispred nje je stol,
00:49
On the table there are 76 objects
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a na stolu 76 predmeta
00:54
for pleasure and for pain.
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koji mogu donijeti užitak i bol.
00:58
Some of the objects are
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Neki od tih predmeta su:
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a glass of water, a coat, a shoe, a rose.
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čaša vode, kaput, cipela, ruža;
01:07
But also the knife,
the razor blade, the hammer
the razor blade, the hammer
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ali i nož, žilet, čekić
01:13
and the pistol with one bullet.
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i pištolj s jednim metkom.
01:18
There are instructions which say,
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Upute kažu:
01:21
"I'm an object.
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"Ja sam predmet.
01:23
You can use everything on the table on me.
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Na meni možete koristiti
sve s ovoga stola.
sve s ovoga stola.
01:26
I'm taking all responsibility --
even killing me.
even killing me.
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Preuzimam odgovornost za sve --
pa čak i za to da me ubijete.
pa čak i za to da me ubijete.
01:30
And the time is six hours."
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Imate šest sati."
01:35
The beginning of this
performance was easy.
performance was easy.
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Početak ove izvedbe bio je jednostavan.
01:40
People would give me
the glass of water to drink,
the glass of water to drink,
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Ljudi bi mi davali čašu vode za piće
01:43
they'd give me the rose.
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ili ružu,
01:46
But very soon after,
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ali ubrzo je
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there was a man who took the scissors
and cut my clothes,
and cut my clothes,
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došao čovjek koji je uzeo škarice
i izrezao mi odjeću,
i izrezao mi odjeću,
01:52
and then they took the thorns of the rose
and stuck them in my stomach.
and stuck them in my stomach.
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a zatim su s ruže skinuli trnje
i zaboli mi ih u trbuh.
i zaboli mi ih u trbuh.
01:56
Somebody took the razor blade
and cut my neck and drank the blood,
and cut my neck and drank the blood,
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Netko je uzeo žilet,
porezao me po vratu i pio mi krv.
porezao me po vratu i pio mi krv.
02:01
and I still have the scar.
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Još uvijek nosim taj ožiljak.
02:04
The women would tell the men what to do.
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Žene su govorile muškarcima što da rade.
02:08
And the men didn't rape me
because it was just a normal opening,
because it was just a normal opening,
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Nisu me silovali jer je
to bilo obično otvorenje,
to bilo obično otvorenje,
02:12
and it was all public,
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a i bilo je javno
02:14
and they were with their wives.
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i bili su sa suprugama.
02:16
They carried me around
and put me on the table,
and put me on the table,
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Nosili su me okolo i stavili me na stol,
02:19
and put the knife between my legs.
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stavili su mi nož između nogu.
02:21
And somebody took the pistol and bullet
and put it against my temple.
and put it against my temple.
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Netko je uzeo pištolj s metkom
i uperio mi ga u sljepoočnicu.
i uperio mi ga u sljepoočnicu.
02:25
And another person took the pistol
and they started a fight.
and they started a fight.
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Zatim je druga osoba uzela pištolj
i počeli su se tući.
i počeli su se tući.
02:30
And after six hours were finished,
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Nakon tih šest sati
02:33
I...
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ja...
02:36
started walking towards the public.
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krenula sam prema publici.
02:39
I was a mess.
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Bila sam sva u kaosu.
02:40
I was half-naked, I was full of blood
and tears were running down my face.
and tears were running down my face.
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Polugola, krvava i suze su mi se
slijevale niz obraze.
slijevale niz obraze.
02:46
And everybody escaped, they just ran away.
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Svi su pobjegli, samo su zbrisali.
02:49
They could not confront myself,
with myself as a normal human being.
with myself as a normal human being.
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Nisu se mogli nositi sa mnom,
sa mnom kao s običnim ljudskim bićem.
sa mnom kao s običnim ljudskim bićem.
02:54
And then --
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I onda --
02:57
what happened
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onda sam otišla
02:59
is I went to the hotel,
it was at two in the morning.
it was at two in the morning.
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u hotel, bilo je dva ujutro.
03:05
And
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I
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I looked at myself in the mirror,
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pogledala sam se u ogledalo
03:10
and I had a piece of gray hair.
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i ugledala sijedu vlas.
03:16
Alright --
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Dobro --
03:18
please take off your blindfolds.
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molim vas, skinite poveze za oči.
03:22
Welcome to the performance world.
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Dobro došli u svijet performansa.
03:25
First of all, let's explain
what the performance is.
what the performance is.
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Najprije ću vam objasniti
što je to performans.
što je to performans.
03:29
So many artists,
so many different explanations,
so many different explanations,
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Koliko umjetnika, toliko i objašnjenja.
03:32
but my explanation
for performance is very simple.
for performance is very simple.
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No, moje objašnjenje performansa
vrlo je jednostavno.
vrlo je jednostavno.
03:35
Performance is a mental
and physical construction
and physical construction
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Performans je mentalna i
fizička konstrukcija
fizička konstrukcija
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that the performer makes
in a specific time
in a specific time
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koju izvođač izvodi u određeno vrijeme
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in a space in front of an audience
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u određenom prostoru pred publikom
03:46
and then energy dialogue happens.
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nakon čega uslijedi dijalog energija.
03:49
The audience and the performer
make the piece together.
make the piece together.
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Publika i izvođač zajedno stvaraju djelo.
03:53
And the difference between
performance and theater is huge.
performance and theater is huge.
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Razlika između performansa
i kazališta je ogromna.
i kazališta je ogromna.
03:58
In the theater, the knife is not a knife
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U kazalištu nož nije nož,
04:01
and the blood is just ketchup.
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a krv je samo kečap.
04:04
In the performance,
the blood is the material,
the blood is the material,
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U performansu krv je materija,
04:08
and the razor blade or knife is the tool.
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žilet i nož su alati.
04:11
It's all about being there
in the real time,
in the real time,
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Bitna je aktualnost događanja.
04:15
and you can't rehearse performance,
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Performans ne možete uvježbavati
04:17
because you can't do many
of these types of things twice -- ever.
of these types of things twice -- ever.
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jer mnoge ovakve stvari
nikada ne možete odraditi dvaput.
nikada ne možete odraditi dvaput.
04:23
Which is very important,
the performance is --
the performance is --
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To je jako važno, performans je --
04:25
you know, all human beings
are always afraid of very simple things.
are always afraid of very simple things.
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znate, svi se mi bojimo
iznimno jednostavnih stvari.
iznimno jednostavnih stvari.
04:30
We're afraid of suffering,
we're afraid of pain,
we're afraid of pain,
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Bojimo se patnje, bojimo se boli,
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we're afraid of mortality.
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bojimo se smrtnosti.
04:36
So what I'm doing --
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Ja
04:37
I'm staging these kinds of fears
in front of the audience.
in front of the audience.
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sve te strahove prikazujem pred publikom.
04:41
I'm using your energy,
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Koristim se vašom energijom
04:43
and with this energy I can go
and push my body as far as I can.
and push my body as far as I can.
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koja mi omogućava da svojim tijelom
ispitujem njegove krajnosti
ispitujem njegove krajnosti
04:49
And then I liberate myself
from these fears.
from these fears.
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te se tako oslobađam ovih strahova.
04:53
And I'm your mirror.
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Ja sam vaše ogledalo.
04:54
If I can do this for myself,
you can do it for you.
you can do it for you.
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Ako ja to mogu učiniti za sebe,
možete i vi za vas.
možete i vi za vas.
04:58
After Belgrade, where I was born,
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Poslije Beograda, u kojem sam rođena,
05:00
I went to Amsterdam.
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otišla sam u Amsterdam.
05:03
And you know, I've been doing performances
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Izvodim performanse
05:06
since the last 40 years.
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zadnjih četrdeset godina.
05:08
And here I met Ulay,
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Tu sam upoznala Ulaya,
05:09
and he was the person
I actually fell in love with.
I actually fell in love with.
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osobu u koju sam se zaista zaljubila.
05:13
And we made, for 12 years,
performances together.
performances together.
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Dvanaest godina zajedno smo
izvodili performanse.
izvodili performanse.
05:16
You know the knife
and the pistols and the bullets,
and the pistols and the bullets,
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Onaj nož, pištolje i metke
05:19
I exchange into love and trust.
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pretvaram u ljubav i povjerenje.
05:22
So to do this kind work
you have to trust the person completely
you have to trust the person completely
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Kako biste se mogli baviti ovako nečim,
morate u potpunosti vjerovati drugome
morate u potpunosti vjerovati drugome
05:26
because this arrow
is pointing to my heart.
is pointing to my heart.
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jer je ova strelica uperena u moje srce.
05:29
So, heart beating and adrenaline
is rushing and so on,
is rushing and so on,
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Lupanje srca, udar adrenalina i sl.
05:33
is about trust, is about total trust
to another human being.
to another human being.
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pitanje je povjerenja - potpunog
povjerenja u drugo ljudsko biće.
povjerenja u drugo ljudsko biće.
05:39
Our relationship was 12 years,
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Naša je veza trajala 12 godina
05:41
and we worked on so many subjects,
both male and female energy.
both male and female energy.
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i surađivali smo na mnogim temama,
i na muškoj i na ženskoj energiji.
i na muškoj i na ženskoj energiji.
05:45
And as every relationship
comes to an end, ours went too.
comes to an end, ours went too.
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I kako svakoj vezi jednom
dođe kraj, tako je došao i našoj.
dođe kraj, tako je došao i našoj.
05:49
We didn't make phone calls
like normal human beings do
like normal human beings do
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Nismo se zvali kao normalna ljudska bića
05:53
and say, you know, "This is over."
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da kažemo: "Među nama je gotovo."
05:55
We walked the Great Wall
of China to say goodbye.
of China to say goodbye.
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Za oproštaj smo prošetali Kineskim zidom.
05:58
I started at the Yellow Sea,
and he started from the Gobi Desert.
and he started from the Gobi Desert.
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Ja sam krenula od Žutog mora,
a on od pustinje Gobi.
a on od pustinje Gobi.
06:03
We walked, each of us, three months,
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Oboje smo šetali tri mjeseca
06:06
two and a half thousand kilometers.
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dvije i pol tisuće kilometara.
06:08
It was the mountains, it was difficult.
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Planinsko je to područje, teško je bilo.
06:10
It was climbing, it was ruins.
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Bilo je penjanja i ruševina.
06:13
It was, you know, going through
the 12 Chinese provinces,
the 12 Chinese provinces,
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Prošli smo dvanaest kineskih provincija,
06:16
this was before China was open in '87.
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a to je bilo '87. - prije otvaranja Kine.
06:20
And we succeeded to meet in the middle
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Uspjeli smo se sresti na sredini
06:23
to say goodbye.
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i oprostiti se.
06:26
And then our relationship stopped.
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Tada je naša veza prestala.
06:28
And now, it completely changed
how I see the public.
how I see the public.
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Sada se moje viđenje publike
potpuno promijenilo,
potpuno promijenilo,
06:33
And one very important piece
I made in those days
I made in those days
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a jedan od iznimno važnih komada
koje sam u to vrijeme izvela
koje sam u to vrijeme izvela
06:36
was "Balkan Baroque."
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bijaše "Balkanski barok" -
06:38
And this was the time of the Balkan Wars,
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u vrijeme balkanskih ratova.
06:41
and I wanted to create
some very strong, charismatic image,
some very strong, charismatic image,
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Htjela sam stvoriti snažnu
karizmatičnu sliku,
karizmatičnu sliku,
06:44
something that could serve
for any war at any time,
for any war at any time,
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nešto što bi moglo poslužiti
u vrijeme svakog rata
u vrijeme svakog rata
06:48
because the Balkan Wars are now finished,
but there's always some war, somewhere.
but there's always some war, somewhere.
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jer je balkanskim ratovima sada došao
kraj, ali uvijek se neki rat negdje vodi.
kraj, ali uvijek se neki rat negdje vodi.
06:52
So here I am washing
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Ovdje perem
06:54
two and a half thousand
dead, big, bloody cow bones.
dead, big, bloody cow bones.
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dvije i pol tisuće ogromnih
krvavih kostiju mrtvih krava.
krvavih kostiju mrtvih krava.
06:57
You can't wash the blood,
you never can wash shame off the wars.
you never can wash shame off the wars.
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Ne možete isprati krv,
ne možete sprati ljagu s ratova.
ne možete sprati ljagu s ratova.
07:01
So I'm washing this six hours, six days,
and wars are coming off these bones,
and wars are coming off these bones,
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Ja perem te kosti šest sati, šest dana
i rat se s njih polako skida
i rat se s njih polako skida
07:06
and becoming possible --
an unbearable smell.
an unbearable smell.
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i postaje moguće -- neizdrživ smrad.
07:09
But then something stays in the memory.
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Ali nešto ostaje i u sjećanju.
07:12
I want to show you the one
who really changed my life,
who really changed my life,
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Pokazat ću vam performans
koji mi je promijenio život,
koji mi je promijenio život,
07:15
and this was the performance in MoMa,
which I just recently made.
which I just recently made.
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a radi se o nedavnom performansu
u njujorškom muzeju MoMa.
u njujorškom muzeju MoMa.
07:19
This performance --
when I said to the curator,
when I said to the curator,
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Kustosu sam rekla:
07:22
"I'm just going to sit at the chair,
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"Samo ću sjediti na stolcu,
07:24
and there will be
an empty chair at the front,
an empty chair at the front,
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a ispred mene će biti prazan stolac
07:27
and anybody from the public
can come and sit as long as they want."
can come and sit as long as they want."
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i bilo tko iz publike moći će doći
i sjediti koliko god budu htjeli."
i sjediti koliko god budu htjeli."
07:30
The curator said to me,
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Kustos mi je rekao:
07:32
"That's ridiculous, you know,
this is New York,
this is New York,
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"To je suludo! Ovo je New York,
07:34
this chair will be empty,
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stolac će ostati prazan.
07:36
nobody has time to sit in front of you."
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Nitko nema vremena sjediti pred tobom."
07:37
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
07:39
But I sit for three months.
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Ali sjedila sam tamo tri mjeseca.
07:41
And I sit everyday, eight hours --
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Svaki dan po osam sati --
07:43
the opening of the museum --
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koliko muzej inače radi --
07:44
and 10 hours on Friday
when the museum is open 10 hours,
when the museum is open 10 hours,
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i 10 sati petkom
kada je otvoren deset sati.
kada je otvoren deset sati.
07:47
and I never move.
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I ne mičem odatle.
07:48
And I removed the table
and I'm still sitting,
and I'm still sitting,
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Kad sam maknula stol i nastavila sjediti,
07:51
and this changed everything.
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sve se promijenilo.
07:53
This performance,
maybe 10 or 15 years ago --
maybe 10 or 15 years ago --
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Prije 10 ili 15 godina ovim performansom
07:56
nothing would have happened.
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ništa ne bih postigla.
07:57
But the need of people to actually
experience something different,
experience something different,
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Zahvaljujući ljudskoj potrebi
za iskušavanjem nečeg drugačijeg,
za iskušavanjem nečeg drugačijeg,
08:02
the public was not anymore the group --
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publika više nije bila skupina -
08:04
relation was one to one.
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bili smo u odnosu jedan naprema jedan.
08:07
I was watching these people,
they would come and sit in front of me,
they would come and sit in front of me,
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Gledala sam te ljude, dolazili su
i sjedili preda mnom,
i sjedili preda mnom,
08:10
but they would have to wait
for hours and hours and hours
for hours and hours and hours
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ali morali su čekati satima da dođu
08:13
to get to this position,
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do praznog stolca
08:14
and finally, they sit.
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i sjednu na njega.
08:16
And what happened?
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Što se dogodilo?
08:18
They are observed by the other people,
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Drugi ih ljudi promatraju,
08:20
they're photographed,
they're filmed by the camera,
they're filmed by the camera,
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slikaju, snimaju,
08:23
they're observed by me
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promatram ih i ja
08:24
and they have nowhere to escape
except in themselves.
except in themselves.
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i nemaju gdje pobjeći osim u sebe same.
08:28
And that makes a difference.
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To mijenja sve.
08:29
There was so much pain and loneliness,
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Toliko je boli i usamljenosti,
08:31
there's so much incredible things
when you look in somebody else's eyes,
when you look in somebody else's eyes,
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nevjerojatnih stvari koje primijetite
gledajući u nečije oči
gledajući u nečije oči
08:35
because in the gaze
with that total stranger,
with that total stranger,
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jer u pogledu koji dijele
dva potpuna stranca,
dva potpuna stranca,
08:38
that you never even say one word --
everything happened.
everything happened.
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bez ijedne izgovorene riječi
dogodi se sve.
dogodi se sve.
08:42
And I understood when I stood up
from that chair after three months,
from that chair after three months,
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Kada sam nakon tri mjeseca ustala
iz tog stolca, shvatila sam
iz tog stolca, shvatila sam
08:47
I am not the same anymore.
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da više nisam ista.
08:48
And I understood
that I have a very strong mission,
that I have a very strong mission,
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Shvatila sam da imam snažan poziv,
08:51
that I have to communicate this experience
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da moram svima govoriti
08:54
to everybody.
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o svome iskustvu.
08:56
And this is how, for me, was born the idea
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Tako sam nadošla na ideju
08:59
to have an institute
of immaterial performing arts.
of immaterial performing arts.
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da osnujem institut umjetnosti
nematerijalnog performansa.
nematerijalnog performansa.
09:03
Because thinking about immateriality,
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Nematerijalnost, tj.
nematerijalni performans
nematerijalni performans
09:06
performance is time-based art.
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temelji se na vremenu.
09:07
It's not like a painting.
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Nije poput slikanja.
09:09
You have the painting on the wall,
the next day it's there.
the next day it's there.
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Imate sliku na zidu
koja će i sutradan biti tamo.
koja će i sutradan biti tamo.
09:11
Performance, if you are missing it,
you only have the memory,
you only have the memory,
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Ako propustite performans,
imat ćete samo sjećanje
imat ćete samo sjećanje
09:16
or the story of somebody else telling you,
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ili priču koju će vam netko drugi pričati,
09:18
but you actually missed the whole thing.
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ali sve ste propustili.
09:20
So you have to be there.
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Morate biti ondje.
09:22
And in my point,
if you talk about immaterial art,
if you talk about immaterial art,
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S mog gledišta, kad govorimo
o nematerijalnoj umjetnosti,
o nematerijalnoj umjetnosti,
09:25
music is the highest --
absolutely highest art of all,
absolutely highest art of all,
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glazba je najuzvišenija umjetnost
09:28
because it's the most immaterial.
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jer je najnematerijalnija.
09:30
And then after this is performance,
and then everything else.
and then everything else.
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Nakon glazbe slijedi performans,
a nakon njega sve ostalo.
a nakon njega sve ostalo.
09:33
That's my subjective way.
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To je moje subjektivno viđenje.
09:34
This institute is going to happen
in Hudson, upstate New York,
in Hudson, upstate New York,
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Institut će se nalaziti u Hudsonu,
na sjeveru New Yorka,
na sjeveru New Yorka,
09:38
and we are trying to build
with Rem Koolhaas, an idea.
with Rem Koolhaas, an idea.
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a s Remom Koolhaasom
pokušavamo stvoriti ideju.
pokušavamo stvoriti ideju.
09:41
And it's very simple.
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Vrlo je jednostavno.
09:43
If you want to get experience,
you have to give me your time.
you have to give me your time.
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Ukoliko nešto želite iskusiti,
morate mi povjeriti svoje vrijeme.
morate mi povjeriti svoje vrijeme.
09:47
You have to sign the contract
before you enter the building,
before you enter the building,
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Morate potpisati ugovor
prije nego što uđete u zgradu.
prije nego što uđete u zgradu.
09:51
that you will spend there
a full six hours,
a full six hours,
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Ugovor koji kaže da ćete tamo
provesti punih šest sati.
provesti punih šest sati.
09:53
you have to give me your word of honor.
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Morate mi dati svoju časnu riječ.
09:56
It's something so old-fashioned,
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Staromodno je,
09:58
but if you don't respect your own
word of honor and you leave before --
word of honor and you leave before --
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ali ako ne poštujete vlastitu
časnu riječ i odete ranije,
časnu riječ i odete ranije,
10:01
that's not my problem.
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to nije moj problem.
10:03
But it's six hours, the experience.
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No, to iskustvo traje šest sati,
10:05
And then after you finish,
you get a certificate of accomplishment,
you get a certificate of accomplishment,
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a kad završite, dobijete priznanje
10:08
so get home and frame it if you want.
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koje možete i uramiti ako želite.
10:10
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
10:11
This is orientation hall.
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Ovo je dvorana
za usmjeravanje.
za usmjeravanje.
10:13
The public comes in, and the first thing
you have to do is dress in lab coats.
you have to do is dress in lab coats.
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Kad publika dođe,
najprije moraju obući kute.
najprije moraju obući kute.
10:17
It's this importance
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Važno je
10:19
of stepping from being
just a viewer into experimenter.
just a viewer into experimenter.
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odmaknuti se od uloge promatrača
do uloge istraživača.
do uloge istraživača.
10:23
And then you go to the lockers
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U svlačionici
10:25
and you put your watch,
your iPhone, your iPod, your computer
your iPhone, your iPod, your computer
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ostavite sad, iPhone, iPod, računalo
10:29
and everything digital, electronic.
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i sve digitalno, elektronsko.
10:31
And you are getting free time
for yourself for the first time.
for yourself for the first time.
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Tada prvi put imate vremena za sebe.
10:35
Because there is nothing
wrong with technology,
wrong with technology,
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U tehnologiji nema ništa loše,
10:39
our approach to technology is wrong.
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loš je naš pristup tehnologiji.
10:41
We are losing the time
we have for ourselves.
we have for ourselves.
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Gubimo vrijeme koje imamo za sebe.
10:44
This is an institute
to actually give you back this time.
to actually give you back this time.
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Ovo je institut koji će vam
vratiti to izgubljeno vrijeme.
vratiti to izgubljeno vrijeme.
10:47
So what you do here,
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Ovdje
10:48
first you start slow walking,
you start slowing down.
you start slowing down.
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najprije počnete polagano koračati,
počnete usporavati.
počnete usporavati.
10:51
You're going back to simplicity.
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Vraćate se jednostavnosti.
10:53
After slow walking, you're going
to learn how to drink water --
to learn how to drink water --
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Nakon toga naučit ćete piti vodu.
10:57
very simple, drinking water
for maybe half an hour.
for maybe half an hour.
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Jednostavno vodu pijete nekih pola sata.
11:01
After this, you're going to
the magnet chamber,
the magnet chamber,
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Zatim odlazite u magnetne odaje
11:03
where you're going to create
some magnet streams on your body.
some magnet streams on your body.
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gdje stvarate magnetske tokove
po svom tijelu.
po svom tijelu.
11:07
Then after this,
you go to crystal chamber.
you go to crystal chamber.
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Zatim slijede kristalne odaje,
11:10
After crystal chamber,
you go to eye-gazing chamber,
you go to eye-gazing chamber,
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a nakon njih odaje razmjenjivanja pogleda
11:13
after eye-gazing chamber, you go to
a chamber where you are lying down.
a chamber where you are lying down.
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nakon čega slijede odaje za ležanje.
11:17
So it's the three basic positions
of the human body,
of the human body,
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Dakle, imamo tri osnovna
položaja ljudskog tijela,
položaja ljudskog tijela,
11:19
sitting, standing and lying.
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sjedenje, stajanje, ležanje.
11:21
And slow walking.
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I polagano koračanje.
11:22
And there is a sound chamber.
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I zvučne odaje.
11:24
And then after you've seen all of this,
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Nakon što sve to vidite
11:26
and prepared yourself
mentally and physically,
mentally and physically,
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i pripremite se mentalno i fizički,
11:29
then you are ready to see
something with a long duration,
something with a long duration,
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spremni ste vidjeti nešto što dugo traje,
11:31
like in immaterial art.
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nešto poput nematerijalne umjetnosti.
11:34
It can be music, it can be opera,
it can be a theater piece,
it can be a theater piece,
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To može biti glazba, može biti opera,
može biti kazališni komad,
može biti kazališni komad,
11:38
it can be film, it can be video dance.
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film ili snimka plesa.
11:40
You go to the long duration chairs
because now you are comfortable.
because now you are comfortable.
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Sjednete u stolce u kojima ćete biti dugo
jer vam je konačno ugodno.
jer vam je konačno ugodno.
11:44
In the long duration chairs,
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U njima se transportirate
11:46
you're transported to the big place
where you're going to see the work.
where you're going to see the work.
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u veliko mjesto
na kojem ćete gledati taj komad.
na kojem ćete gledati taj komad.
11:49
And if you fall asleep,
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A ako zaspete,
11:51
which is very possible
because it's been a long day,
because it's been a long day,
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što je lako moguće jer je dan bio dug,
11:53
you're going to be
transported to the parking lot.
transported to the parking lot.
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transportirat ćemo vas na parkiralište.
11:56
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
11:57
And you know, sleeping is very important.
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Znate da je san važan.
12:00
In sleeping, you're still receiving art.
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I u snu primate umjetnost.
12:03
So in the parking lot you stay
for a certain amount of time,
for a certain amount of time,
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Na parkiralištu ostanete neko vrijeme,
12:07
and then after this
you just, you know, go back,
you just, you know, go back,
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a nakon toga se vraćate,
12:10
you see more of the things you like to see
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gledate više onoga što vam se sviđa
12:12
or go home with your certificate.
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ili se vraćate kući sa svojim priznanjem.
12:15
So this institute right now is virtual.
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Institut je trenutno virutalan.
12:18
Right now, I am just
making my institute in Brazil,
making my institute in Brazil,
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Trenutno će postojati samo u Brazilu,
12:21
then it's going to be in Australia,
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ali kasnije će biti i u Australiji,
12:23
then it's coming here,
to Canada and everywhere.
to Canada and everywhere.
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a onda dolazi i ovdje: u Kanadu i posvuda
12:26
And this is to experience
a kind of simple method,
a kind of simple method,
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kako biste mogli iskusiti
ovu pomalo jednostavnu metodu,
ovu pomalo jednostavnu metodu,
12:29
how you go back to simplicity
in your own life.
in your own life.
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kako biste svom životu
povratili jednostavnost.
povratili jednostavnost.
12:32
Counting rice will be another thing.
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Druga metoda bit će brojanje zrna riže.
12:35
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
12:37
You know, if you count rice
you can make life, too.
you can make life, too.
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Znate, brojeći zrna riže
također možete živjeti.
također možete živjeti.
12:40
How to count rice for six hours?
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Kako brojati zrna riže šest sati?
12:42
It's incredibly important.
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Iznimno je važno.
12:44
You know, you go through this whole range
of being bored, being angry,
of being bored, being angry,
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Znate, prođete raspon osjećaja
od dosade, ljutnje,
od dosade, ljutnje,
12:48
being completely frustrated, not finishing
the amount of rice you're counting.
the amount of rice you're counting.
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potpune frustriranosti, nemogućnosti
dovršavanja brojanja zrna riže
dovršavanja brojanja zrna riže
12:52
And then this unbelievable
amount of peace you get
amount of peace you get
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do nevjerojatnog
osjećaja mira koji dobijete
osjećaja mira koji dobijete
12:55
when satisfying work is finished --
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kad završite sa zadovoljavajućim poslom --
12:58
or counting sand in the desert.
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ili brojanje zrna pijeska u pustinji.
13:00
Or having the sound-isolated situation --
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Ili bivanja u zvučnoj izolaciji --
13:04
that you have headphones,
that you don't hear anything,
that you don't hear anything,
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nosite slušalice, ništa ne čujete
13:06
and you're just there
together without sound,
together without sound,
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i samo ste tamo bez ijednog zvuka
13:09
with the people experiencing silence,
just the simple silence.
just the simple silence.
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s ljudima koji doživljavaju tišinu,
jednostavnu tišinu.
jednostavnu tišinu.
13:14
We are always doing things
we like in our life.
we like in our life.
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Tijekom života uvijek radimo
ono što nam se sviđa
ono što nam se sviđa
13:18
And this is why you're not changing.
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i zbog toga se ne mijenjamo.
13:20
You do things in life --
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Radite te stvari --
13:22
it's just nothing happens
if you always do things the same way.
if you always do things the same way.
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a ništa se ne mijenja
ako uvijek radite sve po starom.
ako uvijek radite sve po starom.
13:26
But my method is to do things
I'm afraid of, the things I fear,
I'm afraid of, the things I fear,
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Moja metoda temelji se na tome
da radim stvari kojih se bojim,
da radim stvari kojih se bojim,
13:31
the things I don't know,
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nepoznate stvari,
13:32
to go to territory
that nobody's ever been.
that nobody's ever been.
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idem tamo gdje nitko
prije mene nije kročio.
prije mene nije kročio.
13:35
And then also to include the failure.
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I kako bih uključila i neuspjeh.
13:38
I think failure is important
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Mislim da je neuspjeh važan
13:40
because if you go,
if you experiment, you can fail.
if you experiment, you can fail.
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jer ako pokušate,
možete doživjeti neuspjeh.
možete doživjeti neuspjeh.
13:44
If you don't go into that area
and you don't fail,
and you don't fail,
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Ako ne odete tamo
i ne doživite neuspjeh,
i ne doživite neuspjeh,
13:46
you are actually repeating yourself
over and over again.
over and over again.
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radite sve po starom.
13:50
And I think that human beings
right now need a change,
right now need a change,
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Treba nam promjena, i to odmah,
13:54
and the only change to be made
is a personal level change.
is a personal level change.
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a jedina promjena koju možemo kontrolirati
jest promjena na individualnoj razini.
jest promjena na individualnoj razini.
13:58
You have to make the change on yourself.
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Morati mijenjati sebe
14:00
Because the only way
to change consciousness
to change consciousness
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jer svijest
14:03
and to change the world around us,
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i svijet oko nas možemo promijeniti
14:05
is to start with yourself.
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jedino počevši od sebe.
14:07
It's so easy to criticize
how it's different,
how it's different,
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Lako je kritizirati
trenutno stanje u svijetu
trenutno stanje u svijetu
14:09
the things in the world
and they're not right,
and they're not right,
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i reći da je drugačije,
i to negativnom smislu.
i to negativnom smislu.
14:11
and the governments are corrupted
and there's hunger in the world
and there's hunger in the world
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Reći da su vlade korumpirane,
u svijetu vladaju glad
u svijetu vladaju glad
14:15
and there's wars -- the killing.
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i ratovi, ubijanja.
14:18
But what we do on the personal level --
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No, što mi činimo na individualnoj razini?
14:21
what is our contribution
to this whole thing?
to this whole thing?
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Čime mi doprinosimo cjelokupnoj situaciji?
14:24
Can you turn to your neighbor,
the one you don't know,
the one you don't know,
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Okrenite se osobi do sebe,
onoj koju ne poznajete
onoj koju ne poznajete
14:28
and look at them for two full minutes
in their eyes, right now?
in their eyes, right now?
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i gledajte ih u oči
pune dvije minute. Može?
pune dvije minute. Može?
14:33
(Chatter)
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(Brbljanje)
14:38
I'm asking two minutes
of your time, that's so little.
of your time, that's so little.
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Tražim samo dvije minute vašeg vremena.
14:42
Breathe slowly, don't try to blink,
don't be self-conscious.
don't be self-conscious.
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Polagano dišite, pokušajte ne treptati,
nemojte se sramiti.
nemojte se sramiti.
14:47
Be relaxed.
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Opustite se
14:49
And just look a complete
stranger in your eyes, in his eyes.
stranger in your eyes, in his eyes.
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i gledajte potpunog stranca u oči.
14:55
(Silence)
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(Tišina)
15:35
Thank you for trusting me.
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Hvala vam što ste mi vjerovali.
15:37
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
15:45
Chris Anderson: Thank you.
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Chris Anderson: Hvala vam.
15:48
Thank you so much.
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Puno vam hvala.
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Marina Abramović - Performance artistIn her performances she’s been cut, burned, and nearly shot -- but Marina Abramović's boldest work yet is a gargantuan institute dedicated to transformation through art.
Why you should listen
Marina Abramović burst onto the '70s art scene with cathartic performances that tested the limits of spectator participation and personal safety. The Artist Is Present, a Museum of Modern Art performance in which thousands of viewers queued for hours to face Abramović across a table, moved many to tears, and launched Abramović into mainstream celebrity.
Her latest work-in-progress is the MAI (Marina Abramović Institute), a sprawling upstate New York complex devoted to the preservation of durational performance pieces, arts education and the pursuit of heightened consciousness through Abramović’s artistic practices.
Marina Abramović | Speaker | TED.com