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Deeyah Khan: What we don't know about Europe's Muslim kids
Dija Kan (Deeyah Khan): Šta ne znamo o muslimanskoj deci iz Evrope
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Kao dete avganistanske majke i pakistanskog oca koje je odraslo u Norveškoj, Dija Kan zna kako je to biti mlada osoba zaglavljena između svoje zajednice i svoje države. U ovom snažnom, emotivnom govoru, rediteljka razotkriva odbijanje i izolaciju koju osećaju mnoga muslimanska deca koja odrastaju na Zapadu - kao i smrtonosne posledice kada ne prigrlimo našu omladinu pre nego što to urade ekstremisti.
Deeyah Khan - Filmmaker
Deeyah Khan is working to create intercultural dialogue and understanding by confronting the world's most complex and controversial topics. Full bio
Deeyah Khan is working to create intercultural dialogue and understanding by confronting the world's most complex and controversial topics. Full bio
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00:13
When I was a child,
I knew I had superpowers.
I knew I had superpowers.
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Kad sam bila dete,
znala sam da imam supermoći.
znala sam da imam supermoći.
00:18
That's right.
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To je tačno.
00:20
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
00:21
I thought I was absolutely amazing
because I could understand
because I could understand
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Mislila sam da sam potpuno neverovatna
jer sam mogla da razumem
jer sam mogla da razumem
00:25
and relate to the feelings
of brown people,
of brown people,
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i da saosećam sa smeđim ljudima,
00:27
like my grandfather,
a conservative Muslim guy.
a conservative Muslim guy.
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poput mog dede, konzervativnog muslimana.
00:31
And also, I could understand
my Afghan mother, my Pakistani father,
my Afghan mother, my Pakistani father,
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A takođe sam mogla da razumem moju majku
Avganistanku, mog oca Pakistanca,
Avganistanku, mog oca Pakistanca,
00:36
not so religious
but laid-back, fairly liberal.
but laid-back, fairly liberal.
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koji nisu bili naročito religiozni,
već opušteni, prilično liberalni.
već opušteni, prilično liberalni.
00:40
And of course, I could understand
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I naravno, mogla sam da razumem
00:42
and relate to the feelings
of white people.
of white people.
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i da saosećam sa belim ljudima.
00:44
The white Norwegians of my country.
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Belim Norvežanima iz svoje zemlje.
00:47
You know, white, brown, whatever --
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Znate, belim, smeđim, kako god -
00:50
I loved them all.
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sve sam ih volela.
00:51
I understood them all,
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Sve sam ih razumela,
00:53
even if they didn't always
understand each other,
understand each other,
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čak iako nisu uvek razumeli jedni druge,
00:55
they were all my people.
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svi su bili moji ljudi.
00:57
My father, though,
was always really worried.
was always really worried.
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Moj otac je ipak bio
stalno krajnje zabrinut.
stalno krajnje zabrinut.
01:00
He kept saying that
even with the best education,
even with the best education,
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Govorio bi da i uz najbolje obrazovanje
01:03
I was not going to get a fair shake.
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neću imati poštene šanse.
01:07
I would still face discrimination,
according to him.
according to him.
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Smatrao je da ću se i dalje
suočavati sa diskriminacijom.
suočavati sa diskriminacijom.
01:10
And that the only way
to be accepted by white people
to be accepted by white people
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I da je jedini način da me belci prihvate
01:13
would be to become famous.
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to da postanem poznata.
01:15
Now, mind you, he had this conversation
with me when I was seven years old.
with me when I was seven years old.
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Sad, možete misliti, ovako smo razgovarali
kad mi je bilo sedam godina.
kad mi je bilo sedam godina.
01:20
So while I'm seven years old, he said,
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Kad mi je bilo sedam godina, rekao je:
01:23
"Look, so it's either got to be sports,
or it's got to be music."
or it's got to be music."
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"Gledaj, biraj sport ili muziku."
01:26
He didn't know anything about sports --
bless him -- so it was music.
bless him -- so it was music.
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Nije znao bilo šta o sportu -
srećom - pa je odabrana muzika.
srećom - pa je odabrana muzika.
01:31
So when I was seven years old,
he gathered all my toys, all my dolls,
he gathered all my toys, all my dolls,
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Pa, kad mi je bilo sedam godina,
pokupio je dve moje igračke i lutke
pokupio je dve moje igračke i lutke
01:35
and he threw them all away.
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i sve ih bacio.
01:38
In exchange he gave me
a crappy little Casio keyboard and --
a crappy little Casio keyboard and --
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U zamenu mi je dao
bezveznu malu kasio klavijaturu i -
bezveznu malu kasio klavijaturu i -
01:42
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
01:43
Yeah. And singing lessons.
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Da. I časove pevanja.
01:45
And he forced me, basically, to practice
for hours and hours every single day.
for hours and hours every single day.
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I praktično me je naterao da vežbam
satima i satima svakog dana.
satima i satima svakog dana.
01:50
Very quickly, he also had me performing
for larger and larger audiences,
for larger and larger audiences,
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Veoma brzo, naterao me je da nastupam
pred sve većom i većom publikom,
pred sve većom i većom publikom,
01:54
and bizarrely, I became
almost a kind of poster child
almost a kind of poster child
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i, bizarno, ali postala sam
skoro kao dete sa letka
skoro kao dete sa letka
01:58
for Norwegian multiculturalism.
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norveškog multikulturalizma.
02:00
I felt very proud, of course.
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Bila sam veoma ponosna, naravno.
02:02
Because even the newspapers at this point
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Jer su čak i novine u tom momentu
02:05
were starting to write
nice things about brown people,
nice things about brown people,
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počele da pišu lepo o smeđim ljudima,
02:08
so I could feel
that my superpower was growing.
that my superpower was growing.
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pa sam osećala kako moja supermoć raste.
02:12
So when I was 12 years old,
walking home from school,
walking home from school,
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Pa, kad mi je bilo 12 godina,
vraćajući se iz škole,
vraćajući se iz škole,
02:15
I took a little detour
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malo sam skrenula s puta
02:17
because I wanted to buy
my favorite sweets called "salty feet."
my favorite sweets called "salty feet."
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jer sam želela da kupim
omiljeni slatkiš nazvan "slana stopala".
omiljeni slatkiš nazvan "slana stopala".
02:20
I know they sound kind of awful,
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Znam da zvuče nekako grozno,
02:23
but I absolutely love them.
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ali sam ih potpuno obožavala.
02:25
They're basically these little
salty licorice bits in the shape of feet.
salty licorice bits in the shape of feet.
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U suštini to su maleni slani
komadići slada u obliku stopala.
komadići slada u obliku stopala.
02:30
And now that I say it out loud,
I realize how terrible that sounds,
I realize how terrible that sounds,
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I sad dok to glasno izgovaram,
shvatam kako odvratno zvuči,
shvatam kako odvratno zvuči,
02:36
but be that as it may,
I absolutely love them.
I absolutely love them.
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ali kako god, ja sam ih potpuno obožavala.
02:38
So on my way into the store,
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Pa se na mom putu do radnje
02:40
there was this grown white guy
in the doorway blocking my way.
in the doorway blocking my way.
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našao odrasli belac,
stajao je na ulazu blokirajući mi prolaz.
stajao je na ulazu blokirajući mi prolaz.
02:45
So I tried to walk around him,
and as I did that, he stopped me
and as I did that, he stopped me
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Pa sam pokušala da ga obiđem,
i dok sam to radila, zaustavio me je
i dok sam to radila, zaustavio me je
02:51
and he was staring at me,
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i zurio je u mene,
02:54
and he spit in my face, and he said,
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i pljunuo mi je u lice, rekavši:
02:56
"Get out of my way
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"Skloni mi se s puta
02:57
you little black bitch,
you little Paki bitch,
you little Paki bitch,
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ti mala crna kučko,
ti mala pakistanska kučko,
ti mala pakistanska kučko,
03:00
go back home where you came from."
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vrati se u zemlju iz koje si došla."
03:03
I was absolutely horrified.
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Bila sam prestravljena.
03:06
I was staring at him.
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Zurila sam u njega.
03:08
I was too afraid
to wipe the spit off my face,
to wipe the spit off my face,
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Bilo me je suviše strah
da obrišem pljuvačku s lica,
da obrišem pljuvačku s lica,
03:11
even as it was mixing with my tears.
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čak i dok se mešala s mojim suzama.
03:14
I remember looking around,
hoping that any minute now,
hoping that any minute now,
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Sećam se da sam se osvrćala
u nadi da će svakog trena
u nadi da će svakog trena
03:17
a grown-up is going to come
and make this guy stop.
and make this guy stop.
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odrasla osoba prići
i naterati ovog čoveka da prestane.
i naterati ovog čoveka da prestane.
03:21
But instead, people kept hurrying past me
and pretended not to see me.
and pretended not to see me.
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No, umesto toga, ljudi su žurili mimo mene
i pretvarali se da me ne vide.
i pretvarali se da me ne vide.
03:26
I was very confused
because I was thinking, well,
because I was thinking, well,
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Bila sam veoma zbunjena
jer sam mislila, dobro:
jer sam mislila, dobro:
03:30
"My white people, come on!
Where are they? What's going on?
Where are they? What's going on?
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"Moji belci, hajde!
Gde su? Šta se dešava?"
Gde su? Šta se dešava?"
03:33
How come they're not
coming and rescuing me?
coming and rescuing me?
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Kako to da ne dolaze da me spase?
03:36
So, needless to say,
I didn't buy the sweets.
I didn't buy the sweets.
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Pa, bespotrebno je reći
da nisam kupila slatkiš.
da nisam kupila slatkiš.
03:39
I just ran home as fast as I could.
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Prosto sam što brže odjurila kući.
03:42
Things were still OK, though, I thought.
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I dalje je sve ipak bilo u redu,
mislila sam.
mislila sam.
03:44
As time went on,
the more successful I became,
the more successful I became,
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Kako je vreme prolazilo,
postajala sam sve uspešnija,
postajala sam sve uspešnija,
03:47
I eventually started also
attracting harassment from brown people.
attracting harassment from brown people.
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vremenom sam takođe počela
da privlačim maltretiranja smeđih ljudi.
da privlačim maltretiranja smeđih ljudi.
Neki muškarci iz zajednice mojih roditelja
su osećali da je neprihvatljivo
su osećali da je neprihvatljivo
03:53
Some men in my parent's community
felt that it was unacceptable
felt that it was unacceptable
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03:56
and dishonorable for a woman
to be involved in music
to be involved in music
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i nečasno za ženu da se bavi muzikom
04:01
and to be so present in the media.
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i da bude toliko prisutna u medijima.
04:05
So very quickly, I was starting
to become attacked at my own concerts.
to become attacked at my own concerts.
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Pa su, veoma brzo, počeli
da me napadaju na mojim koncertima.
da me napadaju na mojim koncertima.
04:10
I remember one of the concerts,
I was onstage, I lean into the audience
I was onstage, I lean into the audience
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Sećam se jednog od koncerata,
bila sam na sceni, nagela se prema publici
bila sam na sceni, nagela se prema publici
04:15
and the last thing I see
is a young brown face
is a young brown face
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i poslednje što sam videla
je mlado smeđe lice,
je mlado smeđe lice,
04:19
and the next thing I know is some sort
of chemical is thrown in my eyes
of chemical is thrown in my eyes
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a sledeće čega sam svesna
je da mi je neku hemikaliju bacio u oči,
je da mi je neku hemikaliju bacio u oči,
04:23
and I remember I couldn't really see
and my eyes were watering
and my eyes were watering
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i sećam se da skoro nisam mogla da vidim
i oči su mi suzile,
i oči su mi suzile,
04:26
but I kept singing anyway.
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ali sam ipak nastavila da pevam.
04:28
I was spit in the face in the streets
of Oslo, this time by brown men.
of Oslo, this time by brown men.
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Pljuvali su mi u lice na ulicama Osla,
ovog puta smeđi ljudi.
ovog puta smeđi ljudi.
04:34
They even tried to kidnap me at one point.
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Jednom su čak pokušali da me kidnapuju.
04:37
The death threats were endless.
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Pretnje smrću su bile beskonačne.
04:39
I remember one older bearded guy
stopped me in the street one time,
stopped me in the street one time,
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Sećam se da me je jednom stariji,
bradati čovek zaustavio na ulici
bradati čovek zaustavio na ulici
04:42
and he said, "The reason
I hate you so much
I hate you so much
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i rekao: "Mrzim te toliko
04:45
is because you make our daughters think
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jer zbog tebe naše kćerke misle
04:47
they can do whatever they want."
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da mogu da rade šta požele."
04:50
A younger guy warned me to watch my back.
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Mlađi čovek me je upozorio da se pripazim.
04:53
He said music is un-Islamic
and the job of whores,
and the job of whores,
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Rekao je da je muzika neislamska
i posao za kurve,
i posao za kurve,
04:56
and if you keep this up,
you are going to be raped
you are going to be raped
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i ako nastavim s tim, da će me silovati
04:59
and your stomach will be cut out so that
another whore like you will not be born.
another whore like you will not be born.
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i da će mi raseći stomak
kako ne bih rodila kurvu sličnu sebi.
kako ne bih rodila kurvu sličnu sebi.
05:05
Again, I was so confused.
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Opet sam bila veoma zbunjena.
05:07
I couldn't understand what was going on.
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Nisam mogla da razumem šta se dešavalo.
05:09
My brown people now starting
to treat me like this -- how come?
to treat me like this -- how come?
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Moji smeđi ljudi su počeli
da me tako tretiraju - kako to?
da me tako tretiraju - kako to?
05:13
Instead of bridging the worlds,
the two worlds,
the two worlds,
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Umesto da premošćujem
svetove, dva sveta,
svetove, dva sveta,
05:16
I felt like I was falling
between my two worlds.
between my two worlds.
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osećala sam da padam
između moja dva sveta.
između moja dva sveta.
05:20
I suppose, for me, spit was kryptonite.
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Pretpostavljam da je za mene
pljuvačka bila kriptonit.
pljuvačka bila kriptonit.
05:24
So by the time I was 17 years old,
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Do moje 17 godine,
05:26
the death threats were endless,
and the harassment was constant.
and the harassment was constant.
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pretnje smrću su bile beskrajne,
a maltretiranje je bilo stalno.
a maltretiranje je bilo stalno.
05:29
It got so bad, at one point
my mother sat me down and said,
my mother sat me down and said,
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Toliko se pogoršalo, da mi je majka
u jednom momentu rekla:
u jednom momentu rekla:
05:32
"Look, we can no longer protect you,
we can no longer keep you safe,
we can no longer keep you safe,
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"Gledaj, ne možemo više da te štitimo
i da ti obezbedimo sigurnost,
i da ti obezbedimo sigurnost,
05:35
so you're going to have to go."
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moraćeš da ideš."
05:37
So I bought a one-way ticket to London,
I packed my suitcase and I left.
I packed my suitcase and I left.
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Pa sam kupila kartu u jednom pravcu
za London, spakovala kofer i otišla.
za London, spakovala kofer i otišla.
05:44
My biggest heartbreak at that point
was that nobody said anything.
was that nobody said anything.
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Najviše me je tada povredilo
to što niko nije rekao bilo šta.
to što niko nije rekao bilo šta.
05:47
I had a very public exit from Norway.
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Moj odlazak iz Norveške
je bio itekako javan.
je bio itekako javan.
05:51
My brown people, my white people --
nobody said anything.
nobody said anything.
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Moji smeđi ljudi, moji beli ljudi -
niko nije rekao bilo šta.
niko nije rekao bilo šta.
05:54
Nobody said, "Hold on, this is wrong.
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Niko nije rekao:
"Sačekaj, ovo je pogrešno.
"Sačekaj, ovo je pogrešno.
05:57
Support this girl, protect this girl,
because she is one of us."
because she is one of us."
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Podržimo ovu devojku, zaštitimo
ovu devojku jer je jedna od nas."
ovu devojku jer je jedna od nas."
06:01
Nobody said that.
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Niko to nije rekao.
06:03
Instead, I felt like --
you know at the airport,
you know at the airport,
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Umesto toga, osećala sam se -
znate na aerodromima,
znate na aerodromima,
06:07
on the baggage carousel
you have these different suitcases
you have these different suitcases
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na pokretnoj traci za prtljag
imate razne kofere
imate razne kofere
06:10
going around and around,
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koji kruže i kruže,
06:11
and there's always
that one suitcase left at the end,
that one suitcase left at the end,
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i uvek ima taj jedan kofer
koji ostane na kraju,
koji ostane na kraju,
06:13
the one that nobody wants,
the one that nobody comes to claim.
the one that nobody comes to claim.
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onaj koga niko ne želi,
koga niko ne traži.
koga niko ne traži.
06:16
I felt like that.
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Tako sam se osećala.
06:19
I'd never felt so alone.
I'd never felt so lost.
I'd never felt so lost.
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Nikad se nisam osećala tako usamljeno.
Nikad se nisam osećala tako izgubljeno.
Nikad se nisam osećala tako izgubljeno.
06:24
So, after coming to London,
I did eventually resume my music career.
I did eventually resume my music career.
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Pa, po dolasku u London,
vremenom sam nastavila muzičku karijeru.
vremenom sam nastavila muzičku karijeru.
06:29
Different place, but unfortunately
the same old story.
the same old story.
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Drugo mesto, ali nažalost
ista stara priča.
ista stara priča.
06:32
I remember a message sent to me
saying that I was going to be killed
saying that I was going to be killed
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Sećam se poruke koja mi je stigla
u kojoj je pisalo da će me ubiti
u kojoj je pisalo da će me ubiti
06:36
and that rivers of blood
were going to flow
were going to flow
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i da će reke krvi teći
06:39
and that I was going to be raped
many times before I died.
many times before I died.
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i da će me silovati više puta
pre nego što umrem.
pre nego što umrem.
06:43
By this point, I have to say,
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Do tad, moram da kažem,
06:44
I was actually getting used
to messages like this,
to messages like this,
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zapravo sam se navikla na ovakve poruke,
06:47
but what became different was that
now they started threatening my family.
now they started threatening my family.
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ali različito je bilo to
da su sad počeli da prete mojoj porodici.
da su sad počeli da prete mojoj porodici.
06:52
So once again, I packed my suitcase,
I left music and I moved to the US.
I left music and I moved to the US.
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Pa sam ponovo spakovala kofer,
napustila muziku i preselila se u SAD.
napustila muziku i preselila se u SAD.
06:58
I'd had enough.
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Bilo mi je dosta.
06:59
I didn't want to have anything
to do with this anymore.
to do with this anymore.
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Nisam želela više da imam bilo šta s ovim.
07:02
And I was certainly not
going to be killed for something
going to be killed for something
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I sigurno nisam želela
da poginem zbog nečega
da poginem zbog nečega
07:05
that wasn't even my dream --
it was my father's choice.
it was my father's choice.
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što nije ni bilo moj san -
to je bio izbor mog oca.
to je bio izbor mog oca.
07:10
So I kind of got lost.
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Pa sam se nekako izgubila.
07:13
I kind of fell apart.
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Nekako sam se slomila.
07:14
But I decided that what I wanted to do
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Ali sam odlučila da želim
07:17
is spend the next
however many years of my life
however many years of my life
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da provedem ostatak
nebitno koliko godina mog života
nebitno koliko godina mog života
07:20
supporting young people
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podržavajući mlade ljude
07:22
and to try to be there in some small way,
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i pokušavajući da budem prisutna
na neke sitne načine,
na neke sitne načine,
07:25
whatever way that I could.
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kako god mogla.
07:27
I started volunteering
for various organizations
for various organizations
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Počela sam da volontiram
za razne organizacije
za razne organizacije
07:30
that were working
with young Muslims inside of Europe.
with young Muslims inside of Europe.
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koje su radile s mladim muslimanima
unutar Evrope.
unutar Evrope.
07:36
And, to my surprise, what I found was
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I, na moje iznenađenje, otkrila sam
07:39
so many of these young people
were suffering and struggling.
were suffering and struggling.
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da se toliko tih mladih ljudi pati i muči.
07:44
They were facing so many problems
with their families and their communities
with their families and their communities
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Suočavali su se sa tolikim problemima
u svojim porodicama i zajednicama
u svojim porodicama i zajednicama
07:48
who seemed to care more
about their honor and their reputation
about their honor and their reputation
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koje su se činile da više mare
za svoju čast i ugled
za svoju čast i ugled
07:51
than the happiness
and the lives of their own kids.
and the lives of their own kids.
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nego za sreću i živote svoje dece.
07:55
I started feeling like maybe I wasn't
so alone, maybe I wasn't so weird.
so alone, maybe I wasn't so weird.
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Počela sam da osećam da možda nisam sama,
da možda nisam toliko čudna.
da možda nisam toliko čudna.
08:00
Maybe there are more
of my people out there.
of my people out there.
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Možda napolju ima još mojih ljudi.
08:03
The thing is, what most people
don't understand
don't understand
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Stvar je u tome,
nešto što mnogi ne razumeju,
nešto što mnogi ne razumeju,
08:05
is that there are so many of us
growing up in Europe
growing up in Europe
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da ima toliko nas koji odrastamo u Evropi
08:09
who are not free to be ourselves.
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koji nismo slobodni da budemo mi sami.
08:12
We're not allowed to be who we are.
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Nama nije dozvoljeno
da budemo to što jesmo.
da budemo to što jesmo.
08:15
We are not free to marry
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Nismo slobodni da se venčavamo
08:19
or to be in relationships
with people that we choose.
with people that we choose.
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ili da budemo u vezama
s ljudima koje odaberemo.
s ljudima koje odaberemo.
Ne možemo ni da biramo karijeru.
08:22
We can't even pick our own career.
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08:24
This is the norm in the Muslim
heartlands of Europe.
heartlands of Europe.
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Ovo je norma u muslimanskim
delovima Evrope.
delovima Evrope.
08:27
Even in the freest societies
in the world, we're not free.
in the world, we're not free.
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Čak i u najslobodnijim društvima u svetu,
mi nismo slobodni.
mi nismo slobodni.
08:31
Our lives, our dreams, our future
does not belong to us,
does not belong to us,
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Naši životi, naši snovi, naša budućnost
nam ne pripadaju,
nam ne pripadaju,
08:35
it belongs to our parents
and their community.
and their community.
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oni pripadaju našim roditeljima
i njihovim zajednicama.
i njihovim zajednicama.
08:38
I found endless stories of young people
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Otkrila sam bezbroj priča o mladim ljudima
08:42
who are lost to all of us,
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koje su promakle svima nama,
08:45
who are invisible to all of us
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koji su nevidljive za sve nas,
08:47
but who are suffering,
and they are suffering alone.
and they are suffering alone.
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ali koji pate i pate usamljeni.
08:51
Kids we are losing to forced marriages,
to honor-based violence and abuse.
to honor-based violence and abuse.
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Deca koju gubimo u ugovorenim brakovima,
u nasilju zbog časti i zlostavljanju.
u nasilju zbog časti i zlostavljanju.
08:57
Eventually, I realized after several
years of working with these young people,
years of working with these young people,
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Naposletku sam shvatila, nakon nekoliko
godina rada s ovim mladim ljudima,
godina rada s ovim mladim ljudima,
09:01
that I will not be able to keep running.
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da neću moći da nastavim da bežim.
09:03
I can't spend the rest of my life
being scared and hiding
being scared and hiding
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Ne mogu da provedem ostatak života
u strahu i skrivanju
u strahu i skrivanju
09:07
and that I'm actually
going to have to do something.
going to have to do something.
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i da ću zapravo morati da preduzmem nešto.
09:11
And I also realized
that my silence, our silence,
that my silence, our silence,
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Takođe sam shvatila
da moje ćutanje, naše ćutanje,
da moje ćutanje, naše ćutanje,
09:14
allows abuse like this to continue.
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omogućuje da se slično
zlostavljanje nastavi.
zlostavljanje nastavi.
09:18
So I decided that I wanted to put
my childhood superpower to some use
my childhood superpower to some use
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Pa sam odlučila da želim nekako
da iskoristim svoju supermoć iz detinjstva
da iskoristim svoju supermoć iz detinjstva
09:22
by trying to make people on the different
sides of these issues understand
sides of these issues understand
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tako što ću naterati ljude s različitih
strana ovih problema da razmeju
strana ovih problema da razmeju
09:27
what it's like to be a young person stuck
between your family and your country.
between your family and your country.
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kako je biti mlada osoba zaglavljena
između svoje porodice i svoje države.
između svoje porodice i svoje države.
09:32
So I started making films,
and I started telling these stories.
and I started telling these stories.
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Pa sam počela da pravim filmove,
i počela sam da pričam ove priče.
i počela sam da pričam ove priče.
09:36
And I also wanted people to understand
the deadly consequences of us
the deadly consequences of us
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Takođe sam želela da ljudi shvate
smrtonosne posledice kad mi
smrtonosne posledice kad mi
09:41
not taking these problems seriously.
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ne uzmemo ove probleme za ozbiljno.
09:44
So the first film I made was about Banaz.
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Pa je prvi film
koji sam napravila bio o Banaz.
koji sam napravila bio o Banaz.
09:47
She was a 17-year-old
Kurdish girl in London.
Kurdish girl in London.
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Bila je 17-ogodišnja Kurdkinja u Londonu.
09:51
She was obedient, she did
whatever her parents wanted.
whatever her parents wanted.
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Bila je poslušna, radila je sve
što su njeni roditelji želeli.
što su njeni roditelji želeli.
09:54
She tried to do everything right.
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Pokušavala je da sve uradi kako treba.
Udala se za nekog momka
koga su njeni roditelji odabrali,
koga su njeni roditelji odabrali,
09:57
She married some guy
that her parents chose for her,
that her parents chose for her,
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09:59
even though he beat
and raped her constantly.
and raped her constantly.
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iako ju je stalno tukao i silovao.
10:03
And when she tried to go
to her family for help, they said,
to her family for help, they said,
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Pokušavši da ode kod svoje porodice
za pomoć, rekli su:
za pomoć, rekli su:
10:06
"Well, you got to go back
and be a better wife."
and be a better wife."
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"Pa, moraš da se vratiš
i budeš bolja supruga."
i budeš bolja supruga."
10:09
Because they didn't want
a divorced daughter on their hands
a divorced daughter on their hands
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Zato što nisu želeli da imaju posla
sa razvedenom kćerkom
sa razvedenom kćerkom
10:11
because, of course, that would
bring dishonor on the family.
bring dishonor on the family.
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jer bi to, naravno,
bilo nečasno za porodicu.
bilo nečasno za porodicu.
10:15
She was beaten so badly
her ears would bleed,
her ears would bleed,
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Toliko ju je tukao da bi joj uši krvarile,
10:19
and when she finally left
and she found a young man that she chose
and she found a young man that she chose
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a kad ga je konačno napustila
i našla mladića kog je odabrala
i našla mladića kog je odabrala
10:24
and she fell in love with,
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i u kog se zaljubila,
10:26
the community and the family found out
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zajednica i porodica su otkrili,
10:28
and she disappeared.
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i ona je nestala.
10:30
She was found three months later.
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Pronađena je tri meseca kasnije.
10:33
She'd been stuffed into a suitcase
and buried underneath the house.
and buried underneath the house.
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Ugurana je u kofer i zakopana ispod kuće.
10:40
She had been strangled,
she had been beaten to death
she had been beaten to death
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Zadavila su je i tukla do smrti
10:44
by three men, three cousins,
on the orders of her father and uncle.
on the orders of her father and uncle.
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tri muškarca, tri rođaka,
po naređenju njenog oca i ujaka.
po naređenju njenog oca i ujaka.
10:49
The added tragedy of Banaz's story
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Dodatna tragedija u Banazinoj priči
10:52
is that she had gone to the police
in England five times asking for help,
in England five times asking for help,
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je da se pet puta obratila
engleskoj policiji za pomoć,
engleskoj policiji za pomoć,
10:58
telling them that she was
going to be killed by her family.
going to be killed by her family.
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rekavši im da će je njena porodica ubiti.
11:01
The police didn't believe her
so they didn't do anything.
so they didn't do anything.
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Policija joj nije verovala,
te nisu uradili bilo šta.
te nisu uradili bilo šta.
11:05
And the problem with this
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A problem s ovim
11:06
is that not only are so many of our kids
facing these problems
facing these problems
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je da ne samo da se mnoga naša deca
suočavaju s ovim problemima
suočavaju s ovim problemima
11:10
within their families
and within their families' communities,
and within their families' communities,
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unutar svojih porodica
i unutar zajednica svojih porodica,
i unutar zajednica svojih porodica,
11:13
but they're also meeting misunderstandings
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već takođe nailaze na nerazumevanje
11:18
and apathy in the countries
that they grow up in.
that they grow up in.
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i apatiju u državama u kojima su odrasli.
11:23
When their own families betray them,
they look to the rest of us,
they look to the rest of us,
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Kada ih sopstvene porodice izdaju,
obraćaju se nama ostalima,
obraćaju se nama ostalima,
11:28
and when we don't understand,
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a kad mi ne razumemo,
11:30
we lose them.
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gubimo ih.
11:33
So while I was making this film,
several people said to me,
several people said to me,
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Pa, dok sam radila na ovom filmu,
nekoliko ljudi mi je reklo:
nekoliko ljudi mi je reklo:
11:36
"Well, Deeyah, you know,
this is just their culture,
this is just their culture,
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"Pa, Dija, znaš,
to je prosto njihova kultura,
to je prosto njihova kultura,
to je prosto nešto
što ti ljudi rade svojoj deci
što ti ljudi rade svojoj deci
11:38
this is just what those people
do to their kids
do to their kids
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11:41
and we can't really interfere."
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i zaista se ne možemo mešati."
11:43
I can assure you
being murdered is not my culture.
being murdered is not my culture.
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Uveravam vas da biti ubijen
nije moja kultura.
nije moja kultura.
11:48
You know?
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Znate?
11:49
And surely people who look like me,
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I zasigurno ljudi kao ja,
11:51
young women who come
from backgrounds like me,
from backgrounds like me,
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mlade žene koje potiču
iz sličnih sredina kao ja,
iz sličnih sredina kao ja,
11:53
should be subject to the same rights,
the same protections
the same protections
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bi trebalo da podležu
istim pravima, istoj zaštiti
istim pravima, istoj zaštiti
11:57
as anybody else in our country, why not?
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kao i bilo ko u našoj državi, zašto ne?
12:02
So, for my next film,
I wanted to try and understand
I wanted to try and understand
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Dakle, u svom sledećem filmu
sam pokušala da razumem
sam pokušala da razumem
12:07
why some of our young
Muslim kids in Europe
Muslim kids in Europe
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zašto neke od naših mladih
muslimanskih klinaca u Evropi
muslimanskih klinaca u Evropi
12:10
are drawn to extremism and violence.
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privlači ekstremizam i nasilje.
12:12
But with that topic,
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Međutim, uz tu temu
12:14
I also recognized that I was going
to have to face my worst fear:
to have to face my worst fear:
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sam takođe spoznala da ću morati
da se suočim s najvećim strahom:
da se suočim s najvećim strahom:
12:19
the brown men with beards.
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smeđim bradatim muškarcima.
12:22
The same men, or similar men,
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Istim muškarcima ili sličnim muškarcima
12:25
to the ones that have hounded me
for most of my life.
for most of my life.
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onim koji su me šikanirali
veći deo mog života.
veći deo mog života.
12:29
Men that I've been afraid of
most of my life.
most of my life.
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Muškarcima kojih se plašim
veći deo svog života.
veći deo svog života.
12:32
Men that I've also deeply disliked,
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Muškaracima koje takođe
istinski nisam volela
istinski nisam volela
12:35
for many, many years.
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dugo, dugo godina.
12:37
So I spent the next two years
interviewing convicted terrorists,
interviewing convicted terrorists,
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Pa sam provela sledeće dve godine
intervjuišući osuđene teroriste,
intervjuišući osuđene teroriste,
12:41
jihadis and former extremists.
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džihadiste i bivše ekstremiste.
12:43
What I already knew,
what was very obvious already,
what was very obvious already,
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Otpre sam znala
nešto što je već očigledno,
nešto što je već očigledno,
12:47
was that religion, politics,
Europe's colonial baggage,
Europe's colonial baggage,
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a to je da religija, politika,
evropsko kolonijalno breme,
evropsko kolonijalno breme,
12:52
also Western foreign policy
failures of recent years,
failures of recent years,
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kao i skorašnji neuspesi
zapadne inostrane politike,
zapadne inostrane politike,
12:56
were all a part of the picture.
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da je sve to deo slike.
12:58
But what I was more interested
in finding out was what are the human,
in finding out was what are the human,
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No više sam bila zainteresovana
za otkrivanje šta su ljudski,
za otkrivanje šta su ljudski,
13:01
what are the personal reasons
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šta su lični razlozi
13:03
why some of our young people
are susceptible to groups like this.
are susceptible to groups like this.
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zbog kojih su neki mladi ljudi
podložni ovim grupama.
podložni ovim grupama.
13:09
And what really surprised me
was that I found wounded human beings.
was that I found wounded human beings.
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A istinski me je iznenadilo
to što sam otkrila povređena ljudska bića.
to što sam otkrila povređena ljudska bića.
13:15
Instead of the monsters
that I was looking for,
that I was looking for,
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Umesto čudovišta za kojima sam tragala,
koje sam se nadala da ću naći -
13:18
that I was hoping to find --
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13:19
quite frankly because
it would have been very satisfying --
it would have been very satisfying --
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iskreno jer bi to bilo
veoma zadovoljavajuće -
veoma zadovoljavajuće -
13:22
I found broken people.
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pronašla sam urušene ljude.
13:25
Just like Banaz,
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Baš poput Banaz,
13:27
I found that these young men
were torn apart
were torn apart
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otkrila sam da su ovi mladići rastrgnuti
13:30
from trying to bridge the gaps
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u pokušaju premošćavanja jaza
13:32
between their families
and the countries that they were born in.
and the countries that they were born in.
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između svojih porodica
i država u kojima su rođeni.
i država u kojima su rođeni.
13:37
And what I also learned
is that extremist groups, terrorist groups
is that extremist groups, terrorist groups
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Naučila sam i da ekstremističke grupe,
terorističke grupe
terorističke grupe
13:41
are taking advantage
of these feelings of our young people
of these feelings of our young people
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iskorišćavaju ova osećanja kod mladih
13:44
and channeling that -- cynically --
channeling that toward violence.
channeling that toward violence.
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i usmeravaju ih - cinično -
usmeravaju sve to ka nasilju.
usmeravaju sve to ka nasilju.
13:48
"Come to us," they say.
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"Priđite nama", kažu.
13:50
"Reject both sides,
your family and your country
your family and your country
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"Odbacite obe strane,
vaše porodice i vaše države
vaše porodice i vaše države
13:53
because they reject you.
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jer vas oni odbacuju.
13:54
For your family, their honor
is more important than you
is more important than you
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Vašoj porodici je čast važnija od vas,
13:57
and for your country,
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a vašoj državi,
13:59
a real Norwegian, Brit or a French person
will always be white and never you."
will always be white and never you."
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pravi Norvežanin, Britanac ili Francuz
će uvek da bude belac, nikad vi."
će uvek da bude belac, nikad vi."
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They're also promising our young people
the things that they crave:
the things that they crave:
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Takođe obećavaju našim mladim ljudima
ono za čim žude:
ono za čim žude:
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significance, heroism,
a sense of belonging and purpose,
a sense of belonging and purpose,
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značaj, herojstvo,
osećaj pripadanja i svrhe,
osećaj pripadanja i svrhe,
14:13
a community that loves and accepts them.
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zajednicu koja ih voli i prihvata.
14:17
They make the powerless feel powerful.
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Nemoćnima daju osećanje moći.
14:20
The invisible and the silent
are finally seen and heard.
are finally seen and heard.
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Nevidljivi i utišani
su konačno vidljivi i saslušani.
su konačno vidljivi i saslušani.
14:27
This is what they're doing
for our young people.
for our young people.
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Eto šta oni rade našim mladim ljudima.
14:29
Why are these groups doing this
for our young people and not us?
for our young people and not us?
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Zašto ove grupe to rade
našim mladima, a ne mi?
našim mladima, a ne mi?
14:34
The thing is,
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Radi se o tome,
14:36
I'm not trying to justify
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ne pokušavam da opravdam
14:39
or excuse any of the violence.
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ili da nađem izgovor za bilo koje nasilje.
14:43
What I am trying to say
is that we have to understand
is that we have to understand
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Pokušavam da kažem
da moramo da razumemo
da moramo da razumemo
14:47
why some of our young people
are attracted to this.
are attracted to this.
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zašto neke naše mlade ljude privlači ovo.
14:51
I would like to also show you, actually --
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Takođe bih volela
da vam pokažem, zapravo -
da vam pokažem, zapravo -
14:54
these are childhood photos
of some of the guys in the film.
of some of the guys in the film.
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ovo su slike iz detinjstva
nekih od momaka iz filma.
nekih od momaka iz filma.
14:59
What really struck me
is that so many of them --
is that so many of them --
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Zateklo me je to da mnogi od njih -
15:02
I never would have thought this --
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nikada ne bih pomislila to -
15:04
but so many of them
have absent or abusive fathers.
have absent or abusive fathers.
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ali mnogi od njih
imaju odsutne ili nasilne očeve.
imaju odsutne ili nasilne očeve.
15:08
And several of these young guys
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A nekoliko ovih mladića
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ended up finding caring
and compassionate father figures
and compassionate father figures
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je na kraju otkrilo brižljive
i saosećajne očinske figure
i saosećajne očinske figure
15:14
within these extremist groups.
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unutar ovih ekstremističkih grupa.
15:17
I also found men
brutalized by racist violence,
brutalized by racist violence,
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Takođe sam naišla na muškarce
žrtve brutalnog rasnog nasilja,
žrtve brutalnog rasnog nasilja,
ali su pronašli način
da se više ne osećaju kao žrtve
da se više ne osećaju kao žrtve
15:21
but who found a way
to stop feeling like victims
to stop feeling like victims
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15:24
by becoming violent themselves.
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tako što su i sami postali nasilni.
15:25
In fact, I found something,
to my horror, that I recognized.
to my horror, that I recognized.
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Zapravo, otkrila sam nešto,
na moje zaprepašćenje, što sam prepoznala.
na moje zaprepašćenje, što sam prepoznala.
15:30
I found the same feelings that I felt
as a 17-year-old as I fled from Norway.
as a 17-year-old as I fled from Norway.
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Otkrila sam ista osećanja koja sam osećala
kao 17-ogodišnjakinja, bežeći iz Norveške.
kao 17-ogodišnjakinja, bežeći iz Norveške.
15:38
The same confusion, the same sorrow,
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Istu zbunjenost, istu tugu,
15:41
the same feeling of being betrayed
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isti osećaj izdaje
15:46
and not belonging to anyone.
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i nepripadanja bilo kome.
15:50
The same feeling of being lost
and torn between cultures.
and torn between cultures.
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Isto osećanje izgubljenosti
i rastrgnutosti između kultura.
i rastrgnutosti između kultura.
15:54
Having said that,
I did not choose destruction,
I did not choose destruction,
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S tim u vezi, nisam izabrala uništavanje,
15:57
I chose to pick up a camera
instead of a gun.
instead of a gun.
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izabrala sam kameru umesto puške.
16:00
And the reason I did that
is because of my superpower.
is because of my superpower.
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A razlog tome je moja supermoć.
16:03
I could see that understanding
is the answer, instead of violence.
is the answer, instead of violence.
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Videla sam da je razumevanje
odgovor, umesto nasilja.
odgovor, umesto nasilja.
16:08
Seeing human beings
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Videti ljudska bića
16:10
with all their virtues and all their flaws
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sa svim svojim vrlinama i manama,
16:13
instead of continuing the caricatures:
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umesto održavanja karikatura:
16:15
the us and them, the villains and victims.
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mi i oni, zlikovci i žrtve.
16:18
I'd also finally
come to terms with the fact
come to terms with the fact
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Takođe sam se pomirila sa činjenicom
16:20
that my two cultures
didn't have to be on a collision course
didn't have to be on a collision course
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da moje dve kulture
ne moraju da se sudaraju,
ne moraju da se sudaraju,
16:24
but instead became a space
where I found my own voice.
where I found my own voice.
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već mogu da postanu prostor
na kom pronalazim sopstveni glas.
na kom pronalazim sopstveni glas.
16:27
I stopped feeling
like I had to pick a side,
like I had to pick a side,
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Prestala sam da se osećam
kao da moram da izaberem stranu,
kao da moram da izaberem stranu,
16:30
but this took me many, many years.
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ali za to su mi bile potrebne
godine i godine.
godine i godine.
16:33
There are so many
of our young people today
of our young people today
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Ima toliko naših mladih ljudi danas
16:35
who are struggling with these same issues,
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koji se bore sa istim ovim pitanjima,
16:37
and they're struggling with this alone.
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i s tim se bore sami.
16:41
And this leaves them open like wounds.
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A zbog toga su izloženi kao rane.
16:44
And for some, the worldview
of radical Islam
of radical Islam
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A za neke pogled na svet radikalnog islama
16:47
becomes the infection
that festers in these open wounds.
that festers in these open wounds.
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postaje zaraza koja se gnoji
u ovim otvorenim ranama.
u ovim otvorenim ranama.
16:53
There's an African proverb that says,
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Ima jedna afrička poslovica koja glasi:
16:57
"If the young are not
initiated into the village,
initiated into the village,
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"Ako mlade ne uvedete u selo,
17:01
they will burn it down
just to feel its warmth."
just to feel its warmth."
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spaliće ga, samo da osete
njegovu toplinu."
njegovu toplinu."
17:05
I would like to ask --
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Volela bih da pitam -
17:07
to Muslim parents and Muslim communities,
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muslimanske roditelje
i muslimanske zajednice,
i muslimanske zajednice,
17:10
will you love and care for your children
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hoćete li da volite
i brinete za vašu decu,
i brinete za vašu decu,
17:12
without forcing them
to meet your expectations?
to meet your expectations?
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a da ih ne primoravate
da ispune vaša očekivanja?
da ispune vaša očekivanja?
17:15
Can you choose them instead of your honor?
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Možete li da odaberete njih,
umesto vaše časti?
umesto vaše časti?
17:18
Can you understand
why they're so angry and alienated
why they're so angry and alienated
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Možete li da razumete
zašto su tako besni i otuđeni
zašto su tako besni i otuđeni
17:21
when you put your honor
before their happiness?
before their happiness?
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kad stavite svoju čast
ispred njihove sreće?
ispred njihove sreće?
17:24
Can you try to be a friend to your child
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Možete li da pokušate
da budete prijatelj svom detetu
da budete prijatelj svom detetu
17:27
so that they can trust you
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kako bi moglo da vam veruje
17:28
and want to share with you
their experiences,
their experiences,
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i moglo da deli sa vama svoja iskustva,
17:31
rather than having
to seek it somewhere else?
to seek it somewhere else?
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umesto da mora to da traži negde drugde.
17:34
And to our young people
tempted by extremism,
tempted by extremism,
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A našim mladim ljudima
koje privlači ekstremizam:
koje privlači ekstremizam:
17:38
can you acknowledge
that your rage is fueled by pain?
that your rage is fueled by pain?
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možete li da priznate
da je vaš bes pokrenut bolom?
da je vaš bes pokrenut bolom?
17:43
Will you find the strength
to resist those cynical old men
to resist those cynical old men
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Hoćete li da nađete snage
da odolite tim ciničnim starim muškarcima
da odolite tim ciničnim starim muškarcima
17:47
who want to use your blood
for their own profits?
for their own profits?
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koji žele vašom krvlju
da ostvare sopstveni profit?
da ostvare sopstveni profit?
17:51
Can you find a way to live?
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Možete li da pronađete način da živite?
17:53
Can you see that the sweetest revenge
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Možete li da uvidite da je najslađa osveta
17:56
is for you to live
a happy, full and free life?
a happy, full and free life?
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da vi živite srećne,
ispunjene i slobodne živote?
ispunjene i slobodne živote?
17:59
A life defined by you and nobody else.
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Živote koje određujete vi i niko drugi.
18:02
Why do you want to become
just another dead Muslim kid?
just another dead Muslim kid?
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Zašto želite da postanete
tek još jedno mrtvo muslimansko dete?
tek još jedno mrtvo muslimansko dete?
18:07
And for the rest of us, when will we start
listening to our young people?
listening to our young people?
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A što se tiče nas ostalih: kada ćemo
da počnemo da slušamo naše mlade?
da počnemo da slušamo naše mlade?
18:12
How can we support them
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Kako da ih podržimo
18:13
in redirecting their pain
into something more constructive?
into something more constructive?
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da bi preusmerili bol
u nešto konstruktivnije?
u nešto konstruktivnije?
18:18
They think we don't like them.
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Misle da nam se ne sviđaju.
18:20
They think we don't care
what happens to them.
what happens to them.
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Misle da ne marimo šta će da im se desi.
18:23
They think we don't accept them.
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Misle da ih ne prihvatamo.
18:24
Can we find a way
to make them feel differently?
to make them feel differently?
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Možemo li da pronađemo način
da se osećaju drugačije?
da se osećaju drugačije?
18:29
What will it take for us
to see them and notice them
to see them and notice them
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Šta nam je potrebno
da ih vidimo i prepoznamo
da ih vidimo i prepoznamo
18:32
before they become either the victims
or the perpetrators of violence?
or the perpetrators of violence?
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pre nego što postanu bilo žrtve
ili počinioci nasilja?
ili počinioci nasilja?
18:37
Can we make ourselves care about them
and consider them to be our own?
and consider them to be our own?
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Možemo li se naterati da brinemo za njih
i da ih smatramo našima?
i da ih smatramo našima?
18:40
And not just be outraged when the victims
of violence look like ourselves?
of violence look like ourselves?
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A da ne budemo prosto zgroženi
kad žrtve nasilja liče na nas?
kad žrtve nasilja liče na nas?
18:45
Can we find a way to reject hatred
and heal the divisions between us?
and heal the divisions between us?
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Možemo li da nađemo način da odbacimo
mržnju i zacelimo podele između nas?
mržnju i zacelimo podele između nas?
18:50
The thing is we cannot afford
to give up on each other or on our kids,
to give up on each other or on our kids,
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Radi se o tome da ne možemo da priuštimo
da odustanemo jedni od drugih i naše dece,
da odustanemo jedni od drugih i naše dece,
18:54
even if they've given up on us.
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čak iako ona odustanu od nas.
18:56
We are all in this together.
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Svi smo u ovome zajedno.
18:59
And in the long term, revenge and violence
will not work against extremists.
will not work against extremists.
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A na duže staze, osveta i nasilje
neće funkcionisati protiv ekstremista.
neće funkcionisati protiv ekstremista.
19:05
Terrorists want us
to huddle in our houses in fear,
to huddle in our houses in fear,
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Teroristi žele da budemo
šćućureni od straha u našim kućama,
šćućureni od straha u našim kućama,
19:09
closing our doors and our hearts.
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da zatvaramo naša vrata i srca.
19:11
They want us to tear open
more wounds in our societies
more wounds in our societies
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Žele da razjapimo
još rana u našim društvima
još rana u našim društvima
19:15
so that they can use them
to spread their infection more widely.
to spread their infection more widely.
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kako bi mogli da ih koriste
i što više šire svoju zarazu.
i što više šire svoju zarazu.
19:18
They want us to become like them:
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Žele da postanemo poput njih:
19:21
intolerant, hateful and cruel.
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netolerantni, puni mržnje i okrutni.
19:26
The day after the Paris attacks,
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Dan nakon napada u Parizu,
19:28
a friend of mine
sent this photo of her daughter.
sent this photo of her daughter.
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moja prijateljica je poslala
ovu sliku njene kćerke.
ovu sliku njene kćerke.
19:32
This is a white girl and an Arab girl.
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Ovo je bela devojčica i arapska devojčica.
19:35
They're best friends.
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Najbolje su prijateljice.
19:37
This image is the kryptonite
for extremists.
for extremists.
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Ova slika je kriptonit za ekstremiste.
19:43
These two little girls
with their superpowers
with their superpowers
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Ove dve devojčice sa svojim supermoćima
19:46
are showing the way forward
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nam pokazuju put napred
19:47
towards a society
that we need to build together,
that we need to build together,
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ka društvu koje moramo
zajedno da izgradimo,
zajedno da izgradimo,
19:52
a society that includes and supports,
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društvu koje uključuje i podržava,
19:56
rather than rejects our kids.
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umesto da odbija našu decu.
19:59
Thank you for listening.
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Hvala vam na pažnji.
20:01
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Deeyah Khan - FilmmakerDeeyah Khan is working to create intercultural dialogue and understanding by confronting the world's most complex and controversial topics.
Why you should listen
Deeyah Khan is an Emmy and Peabody award-winning documentary film director and founder of Fuuse, a media and arts company that puts women, people from minorities and third-culture kids at the heart of telling their own stories. In 2016, Khan became the first UNESCO Goodwill Ambassador for artistic freedom and creativity. She has received many honors for her work supporting freedom of expression, human rights and peace, including the Ossietzky Prize, the University of Oslo's Human Rights Award and the Peer Gynt Prize from the Parliament of Norway.
Born in Norway to immigrant parents of Pashtun and Punjabi ancestry, Khan's experience of living between different cultures, both the beauty and the challenges, shapes her artistic vision. Her 2012 multi-award winning documentary, Banaz: A Love Story, chronicles the life and death of Banaz Mahmod, a young British Kurdish woman murdered by her family in a so-called honor killing. Khan's second film, the Grierson and Bafta award-nominated Jihad, involved two years of interviews and filming with Islamic extremists, convicted terrorists and former jihadis. One of Fuuse's recent initiatives, born of Deeyah’s own experiences, is sister-hood, a digital magazine and series of live events spotlighting the voices of women of Muslim heritage. Khan has also produced a number of critically acclaimed albums, including Listen to the Banned, a compilation that brought together musicians from around the world who have been subject to persecution, 'censorship and imprisonment.
The focus of Khan's work and access to voices that are often overlooked and misunderstood has led to increasing demand as a speaker at international human rights events and platforms including the United Nations. She was described by The Times of London thus: "To say Deeyah Khan is an inspiration is an understatement. She is one of the bravest, most indomitable women … facing down bullies and extremists with intelligence and unflinching spirit."
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