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Alex Kipman: A futuristic vision of the age of holograms
Alex Kipman: 全息圖時代
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呢個得意嘅示範柔合當下科技同未來想像，帶出咗無螢幕嘅數碼世界係何奇壯觀！戴上全息眼鏡，Alex Kipman 講解佢想將立體全息圖帶到現實世界，從而令我哋嘅觸感都可以觸摸到數碼影像。影片特別收錄 TED 嘅編輯 Helen Walters 嘅問答環節。
Alex Kipman - Inventor
With his latest invention, HoloLens, Kinect creator Alex Kipman has opened a virtual holographic universe for users to explore -- and he may have changed the face of computing forever. Full bio
With his latest invention, HoloLens, Kinect creator Alex Kipman has opened a virtual holographic universe for users to explore -- and he may have changed the face of computing forever. Full bio
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幾千年後
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Thousands of years from now,
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當我哋睇返電腦誕生嗰時
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we'll look back at the first
century of computing
century of computing
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as a fascinating but very peculiar time --
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會覺得係一個令人著迷、好奇嘅時代
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the only time in history where humans
were reduced to live in 2D space,
were reduced to live in 2D space,
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係歷史上唯一一個
人類活喺二維空間嘅時代
人類活喺二維空間嘅時代
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interacting with technology
as if we were machines;
as if we were machines;
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人類好似機械咁同科技共處
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a singular, 100-year period
in the vastness of time
in the vastness of time
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亦都係時間長河裏邊嘅一個世紀
人類喺屏幕面前通訊、娛樂、生活
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where humans communicated,
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were entertained and managed their lives
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from behind a screen.
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Today, we spend most of our time
tapping and looking at screens.
tapping and looking at screens.
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如今，我哋大部分時間都睇同襟螢幕
但係，人與人之間嘅交流發生咩問題？
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What happened to interacting
with each other?
with each other?
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I don't know about you, but I feel limited
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我唔知你點諗，但我覺得有限制
感覺自己限制喺
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inside this 2D world
of monitors and pixels.
of monitors and pixels.
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只有螢幕同像素嘅二維世界裏邊
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And it is this very limitation
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就係咁樣嘅限制
同埋我想同人交流嘅想法
同埋我想同人交流嘅想法
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and my desire to connect with people
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that inspires me as a creator.
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令我成爲創作人
即係話，我想整一個全新嘅現實
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Put simply: I want
to create a new reality,
to create a new reality,
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科技可以無限拉近人與人之間距離
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a reality where technology brings
us infinitely closer to each other,
us infinitely closer to each other,
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係以人爲本
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a reality where people, not devices,
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而唔係以電子產品爲本
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are the center of everything.
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我想見到一個環境
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I dream of a reality where technology
senses what we see, touch and feel;
senses what we see, touch and feel;
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科技會感受到
人嘅所見所聞、所感覺嘅嘢
人嘅所見所聞、所感覺嘅嘢
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a reality where technology
no longer gets in our way,
no longer gets in our way,
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但科技又唔會阻住我哋生活
而係能夠令人類鍾意自己
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but instead embraces who we are.
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我用人類發展嘅過程去諗呢種科技
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I dream of technology
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on a human path.
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01:40
We have all experienced technology
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我哋所有人都用過
一啲令人更加似返人嘅科技
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that enables people
to act more like people,
to act more like people,
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一啲令人做到自然交流
聲控同埋生物統計嘅產品
聲控同埋生物統計嘅產品
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products that enable natural interactions,
voice controls or biometrics.
voice controls or biometrics.
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This is the next step in the evolution.
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但係科技發展嘅下一步係
微軟公司嘅全息眼鏡
微軟公司嘅全息眼鏡
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This is Microsoft HoloLens,
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the first fully untethered
holographic computer.
holographic computer.
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同埋第一個無線全息圖電腦
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Devices like this will bring
3D holographic content
3D holographic content
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呢類電子產品可以將三維全息影像
帶到嚟你眼前
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right into our world,
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係前所未有咁感知世界
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enhancing the way we experience life
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有助我哋感受生活
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beyond our ordinary range of perceptions.
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02:17
Now, I'm not thinking
about a distant future.
about a distant future.
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我講緊嘅唔係好遠嘅將來，而係現實
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I'm talking about today.
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We are already seeing
car companies like Volvo
car companies like Volvo
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汽車製造商沃爾沃
已經用緊全息眼鏡設計汽車
已經用緊全息眼鏡設計汽車
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designing cars differently with HoloLens;
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universities like Case Western
redefining the way medical students learn;
redefining the way medical students learn;
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凱斯西儲大學嘅醫科生
用緊全息眼鏡學習
用緊全息眼鏡學習
我最鍾意嘅美國太空總署
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and my personal favorite,
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NASA is using HoloLens
to let scientists explore planets
to let scientists explore planets
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已經採用全息眼鏡
等科學家可以探索星球
等科學家可以探索星球
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holographically.
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Now, this is important.
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更加重要係
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By bringing holograms into our world,
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全息眼鏡唔剩係一款新產品
或者更高級嘅電腦
或者更高級嘅電腦
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I'm not just talking about a new device
or a better computer.
or a better computer.
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透過將全息圖帶到我哋日常生活當中
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I'm talking about freeing ourselves
from the 2D confines
from the 2D confines
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全息眼鏡能夠將人
喺傳統二維空間裏面解放出嚟
喺傳統二維空間裏面解放出嚟
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of traditional computing.
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打個比喻
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Put it this way:
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我哋就好似原始人
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temporally adjusted, we're like
cave people in computer terms.
cave people in computer terms.
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我哋啱啱搵到一嚿木炭
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We've barely discovered charcoal
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然後開始喺洞穴裏邊
畫第一幅線條圖畫
畫第一幅線條圖畫
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and started drawing
the first stick figures in our cave.
the first stick figures in our cave.
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03:14
Now, this is the perspective
I apply to my work every single day.
I apply to my work every single day.
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宜家，等我話畀你聽
我每日做嘢嘅情景
我每日做嘢嘅情景
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And now for the next few minutes,
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接住落嚟嘅時間
我邀請你哋一齊感受一下明日嘅科技
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I invite all of you to apply
the same perspective
the same perspective
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to the journey ahead of us.
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宜家，就等我戴上全息眼鏡
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Now, as I put this HoloLens on,
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等我解釋一下裝置問題
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let me explain the setup a little bit.
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我之前喺台上做過好多次全息眼鏡示範
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It's probably the most risky demo
we have ever done on any stage
we have ever done on any stage
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但今次可能係最危險嘅一次
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with HoloLens,
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and I can't think of a better place
to do it than here at TED.
to do it than here at TED.
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但我諗唔到比 TED
更加適合做示範嘅場所
更加適合做示範嘅場所
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Momentarily, I am going
to be seeing holograms
to be seeing holograms
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好快，我會喺台上面見到全息圖影像
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right on this stage,
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just as clearly as I can see all of you.
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影像清楚到同台下嘅你哋一樣
期間，會有攝影機
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Now at the same time,
we have also this special camera
we have also this special camera
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that just walked in onstage
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通過大屏幕播放我睇到嘅影像
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so that all of you can share
in this experience with me
in this experience with me
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等大家可以同我一齊感受
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up on all the monitors.
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So let's start our journey.
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咁宜家開始啦
呢樣嘢比起二維影像更加適合我哋
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And what better place
to begin our journey,
to begin our journey,
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than in the computer cave of 2D.
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04:14
Let's explore the world
all around us with this new lens,
all around us with this new lens,
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等我哋用新器材探索我哋周圍嘅世界
同埋用全新角度了解電腦世界
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and understand the computer world
from a brand new perspective.
from a brand new perspective.
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04:23
The computer universe
is both marvelous and primitive.
is both marvelous and primitive.
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電腦世界既不可思議、原始
又係基於因果定律
又係基於因果定律
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It's a universe based on causality.
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As developers, we dream
the different causes
the different causes
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作爲開發者
我哋要考慮唔同輸入嘅情況
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and then we program the different effects.
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然後設計出對應嘅畫面反應
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Double click on an icon, that's a cause.
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好似襟圖案兩下，就係輸入
打開一個程式，就係畫面輸出
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Open an application, that's an effect.
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當我哋將呢啲嘢同現實世界比嘅話
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Now when we compare this
to our physical universe,
to our physical universe,
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就會顯示出現實世界嘅局限
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it is overly constraining,
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因爲現實世界
唔似數碼世界嘅數字斷斷續續
唔似數碼世界嘅數字斷斷續續
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because our universe is not digital.
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Our universe is analog.
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而係好似指針一樣連續進行嘅
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Our universe doesn't think
in terms of zero or one,
in terms of zero or one,
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現實世界唔會用 0 或者 1
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true or false, or black or white.
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啱定錯、黑或白嘅方法去諗嘢
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We exist in a world
governed by quantum physics,
governed by quantum physics,
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但量子物理控制咗我哋嘅世界
我哋嘅世界會同時出現 0 同 1
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a universe of zero and one
both at the same time,
both at the same time,
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a reality based on infinite
probabilities and shades of gray.
probabilities and shades of gray.
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令世界有灰色地帶
同無窮無盡嘅可能性
同無窮無盡嘅可能性
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You can see how these two worlds collide.
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你可以見到現實
同數碼兩個世界點樣有衝突
同數碼兩個世界點樣有衝突
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So why are screens so pervasive
in our analog life?
in our analog life?
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咁點解螢幕喺我哋
連貫嘅生活裏面咁普遍呢？
連貫嘅生活裏面咁普遍呢？
我哋一起身睇嘅嘢就係螢幕
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We see screens from the moment we wake up,
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瞓覺前睇嘅又係螢幕
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to the moment we fall asleep.
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Why?
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點解會咁呢？
我諗係因爲電腦畀我哋好多力量
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I think it's because computers
give us superpowers.
give us superpowers.
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喺數碼世界裏邊
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Within the digital universe,
we have the power to displace space
we have the power to displace space
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我哋有能力將空間替換，將時間替換
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and the power to displace time.
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無論你將科技用喺娛樂用途
工作上，抑或通訊上
工作上，抑或通訊上
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It doesn't matter if you're using
technology for entertainment,
technology for entertainment,
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productivity or communication.
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想像下
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Think of it this way:
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我哋今晚一齊返屋企
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let's all go home tonight
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睇我哋最鐘意嘅電視節目
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and watch our favorite show on television.
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This is theater -- time
and space displaced.
and space displaced.
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喺呢間戲院入面，時間同空間改變咗
當我好快完咗呢場 TED 演講之後
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As soon as I'm done with this TED Talk,
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我會即刻打畀我西雅圖嘅家人
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I'm going to immediately call
my lovely family in Seattle.
my lovely family in Seattle.
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That's displacement of space.
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呢個時候，空間改變咗
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Now, these are such great superpowers
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可以睇到影響好大
我哋仲可以將影響
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that we put up with
the two-dimensional limitations
the two-dimensional limitations
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同當今數碼世界嘅二維限制結合起黎
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of our current digital world.
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但係，如果我哋無需要咁做呢？
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But what if we didn't have to?
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What if we could have
these same digital powers
these same digital powers
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如果我哋嘅數碼世界有同樣嘅影響呢？
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in our world?
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其實你已經睇到少少個影響
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You can already see glimmers of this,
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但我深信二維科技會喺兩代之後消失
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but I believe our children's children
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will grow up in a world
devoid of 2D technology.
devoid of 2D technology.
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06:40
It's remarkable to dream of this world,
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到時將會係一個更加非凡嘅世界
當科技真真正正明白人類時
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a world where technology
truly understands us --
truly understands us --
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無論生活、工作定係通訊方面
06:46
where we live, work and communicate --
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我哋都會有工具提升體驗
06:49
with tools that enhance
the human experience,
the human experience,
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唔會再有機械阻礙人類體驗事物
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not machines that limit our humanity.
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So how do we get there?
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咁我哋點先可以提升體驗？
07:01
For me, the answer required
looking at the problem
looking at the problem
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對我嚟講
首先要從第二個角度搵出問題
07:05
from a different perspective.
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呢個需要我哋從機械角度
去睇呢個世界
去睇呢個世界
07:08
It required sensing the world
from the perspective of a machine.
from the perspective of a machine.
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07:14
If you're a machine trying
to sense our world,
to sense our world,
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如果你係一部機器睇世界
你會點樣拆解問題？
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how would you actually
break the problem down?
break the problem down?
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07:21
You'd probably try to classify things
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你可能將事物分為人類、環境同物件
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as a human,
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an environment
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or an object.
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But how would that machine
then interact with reality?
then interact with reality?
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但咁樣嘅機器
又點樣同現實世界互動呢？
又點樣同現實世界互動呢？
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And I can think of three ways.
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我諗到三種方式
第一，機器會觀察
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First, as a machine,
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I would observe or I would input reality.
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或者將現實世界嘅資料輸入
從輸入嘅角度睇，聲音辨認同生物認證
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Speech recognition
and biometric authentication
and biometric authentication
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are great examples of a machine
interacting with humans
interacting with humans
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就係機器同人類交流嘅好例子
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from an input perspective.
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Secondly, as a machine,
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第二，機器可以將電子訊息
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I could place digital information,
or output information,
or output information,
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或者輸出訊息帶到現實世界
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into reality.
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08:03
Holograms are examples of a machine
interacting with an environment
interacting with an environment
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從輸出角度睇
全息眼鏡係機器同環境交流嘅例子
08:08
from an output perspective.
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最後，機械可以通過
觸覺同世界交換能量
觸覺同世界交換能量
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Finally, as a machine,
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I could exchange energy
with the world via haptics.
with the world via haptics.
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08:17
Now, imagine being able to feel
the temperature of a virtual object,
the temperature of a virtual object,
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想像下，你可以感受虛擬物件嘅溫度
或者可以推開一個虛擬圖像
08:22
or better yet, imagine pushing a hologram
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然後虛擬圖像用同樣嘅力推開你
08:25
and having it push you back
with equal force.
with equal force.
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08:29
With this perspective,
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從呢個角度睇
08:31
we are able to collapse reality
into a simple matrix.
into a simple matrix.
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我哋可以將現實世界
拆散爲一個簡單模組
拆散爲一個簡單模組
同你講個秘密
08:36
Now here's a secret:
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作爲一個程式員，令我興奮嘅
08:37
as an engineer, I get really excited
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08:39
anytime I can reduce
something to the matrix.
something to the matrix.
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係當我發現某樣嘢
可以簡化爲一個模組
可以簡化爲一個模組
08:42
From self-driving cars
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無論係自動駕駛汽車、智能手機
08:44
to smartphones
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定係我戴緊嘅全息圖電腦
08:46
to this holographic computer on my head,
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機器已經越嚟越了解我哋現實世界
08:48
machines are becoming capable
of understanding our world.
of understanding our world.
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08:53
And they are starting to interact with us
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而且，佢哋已經開始
用更加人性化嘅方式同我哋交流
08:55
in significantly more personal ways.
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09:00
Now, imagine having granular control
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想像一下用粒子形式
操控世上所有事物
操控世上所有事物
09:03
over everything in the world.
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09:06
Move the dial one way,
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只要轉動一下轉盤
現實世界就出現喺你面前
09:10
and you get reality.
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09:13
Move the dial the other way,
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如果轉個轉盤第二個方向
虛擬世界就會出現喺你面前
09:17
and you get virtual reality.
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09:21
Now, imagine dialing
your entire environment
your entire environment
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宜家想像一下
你游走於虛擬同現實世界
09:26
between virtual and real worlds.
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09:34
I love it down here.
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我太鍾意呢個景色啦
09:36
Now, imagine if I could look at all of you
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再想像下，我見到台下嘅你哋
只要我郁動轉盤，你哋就會變成精靈
09:40
and dial from real humans into elves.
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當科技真正了解我哋嘅世界時
09:44
When technology truly
understands our world,
understands our world,
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人嘅交流、工作、娛樂方式都會有變化
09:47
it will again transform
the ways we interact,
the ways we interact,
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09:51
the ways we work and the ways we play.
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09:59
Less than half a century ago,
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喺唔夠半個世紀之前
有兩位勇敢嘅人登陸月球
10:01
two courageous men landed on the moon,
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10:04
using computers that were less powerful
than the phones in your pockets.
than the phones in your pockets.
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當時電腦嘅性能比我哋嘅智能手機仲差
六億人透過黑白電視見證住歷史一刻
10:09
Six hundred million humans watched them
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10:12
on grainy, black-and-white televisions.
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咁個世界呢？
10:15
And the world?
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10:17
The world was mesmerized.
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當時世界被深深咁吸引住
10:20
Now imagine how our children
and their children
and their children
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想像一下我哋嘅後代會點利用
10:24
will experience the continued
exploration of space
exploration of space
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呢啲了解世界嘅科技繼續探索太空
10:28
with technology
that understands this world.
that understands this world.
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10:33
We already live in a world where
real-time universal translators exist.
real-time universal translators exist.
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今時今日嘅世界已經有即時空間轉換器
10:38
And I can squint, and I can already
see holographic telepresence
see holographic telepresence
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不久嘅將來就會有全息圖遙遠控制事物
10:43
in our near future.
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10:45
In fact, since we've been lucky
with our demo so far,
with our demo so far,
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好彩今次演範都好順利
咁不如再試其他更癲嘅嘢
10:48
let's try doing something else
even more crazy.
even more crazy.
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10:51
I invite you to experience,
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我邀請大家見證TED 舞臺上
10:53
for the first time anywhere in the world,
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10:56
here on the TED stage,
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全世界第一次做嘅即時全息圖影像傳輸
10:59
a real-life holographic teleportation,
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11:03
between me and my friend,
Dr. Jeffrey Norris,
Dr. Jeffrey Norris,
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同我一位朋友
嚟自 NASA 噴射推進實驗室嘅
Jeffrey Norris 博士傾計
Jeffrey Norris 博士傾計
11:07
from NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory.
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（手緊握）喂，Jeff！
11:10
Finger crossed. Hi, Jeff.
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Jeff Norris︰喂 Alex
11:14
Jeff Norris: Hey, Alex.
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講者︰（鬆一口氣）
成功咗，今日點樣呀，Jeff？
成功咗，今日點樣呀，Jeff？
11:15
Alex Kipman: Phew! That worked.
How are you doing today, Jeff?
How are you doing today, Jeff?
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（掌聲）
11:18
(Applause)
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Jeff Norris︰
好好呀我，過去個禮拜都唔錯
好好呀我，過去個禮拜都唔錯
11:20
JN: Doing great. I had an awesome week.
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講者︰可唔可以同我哋
講下你宜家喺邊？
講下你宜家喺邊？
11:23
AK: So, can you tell us a little bit,
Jeff, about where you are?
Jeff, about where you are?
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11:28
JN: Well, I'm actually in three places.
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Jeff Norris︰好
我宜家同時身處三個唔同嘅地方
11:31
I'm standing in a room across the street,
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我企緊喺街對面嘅一個房
11:34
while I'm standing on this stage with you,
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同時又喺 TED 講台同你一齊
同時又喺幾億里外嘅火星
11:37
while I'm standing on Mars,
a hundred million miles away.
a hundred million miles away.
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講者︰哇，幾億里距離，太勁啦
11:41
AK: Wow, a hundred million
miles away. This is crazy!
miles away. This is crazy!
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你可唔可以詳細講下
點樣收集到火星嘅數據？
點樣收集到火星嘅數據？
11:45
Can you tell us a little bit more
about where all this data
about where all this data
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11:48
from Mars is coming from?
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11:52
JN: Absolutely.
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Jeff Norris︰冇問題
呢幅係精確嘅火星全息圖
11:53
This is a precise
holographic replica of Mars,
holographic replica of Mars,
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基於 Curiosity-Mars-Rover 探測器
收集返嚟嘅數據
收集返嚟嘅數據
11:57
built from data captured
by the Curiosity Mars Rover,
by the Curiosity Mars Rover,
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有咗呢幅全息圖
身在地球都可以探索火星
身在地球都可以探索火星
12:00
that I can explore as easily
as a place on Earth.
as a place on Earth.
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人類天生本來就係探險家
12:05
Humans are natural explorers.
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通過模擬處身喺個環境
12:08
We can instantly
understand an environment,
understand an environment,
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我哋可以即時了解嗰度環境
12:10
just by being present in it.
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12:13
We've built tools like our Mars Rover
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我哋已經設計出類似
Mars Rover 嘅工具
Mars Rover 嘅工具
12:15
to extend our vision
and lengthen our reach.
and lengthen our reach.
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擴大我哋對火星嘅認識
幾十年嚟，我哋一直都透過
屏幕同鍵盤探索
屏幕同鍵盤探索
12:19
But for decades,
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12:21
we've explored from a seat
behind screens and keyboards.
behind screens and keyboards.
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12:26
Now, we're leaping over all of that,
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宜家，我哋可以唔受上述嘅嘢限制
唔受巨型天綫同人造衛星限制
12:29
over the giant antennas
and the relay satellites
and the relay satellites
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12:32
and the vastness between worlds
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並且克服世界嘅距離
虛擬咁第一次登陸火星
12:35
to take our first steps on this landscape
as if we were truly there.
as if we were truly there.
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12:41
Today, a group of scientists
on our mission
on our mission
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今時今日，我哋任務裏邊嘅一班科學家
12:44
are seeing Mars as never before --
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以前所未有嘅方式觀察火星
12:47
an alien world made
a little more familiar,
a little more familiar,
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因爲探索
令我哋走近呢個仲有好多未知嘅星球
12:50
because they're finally exploring it
as humans should.
as humans should.
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12:55
But our dreams don't have to end
with making it just like being there.
with making it just like being there.
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但係，我哋嘅夢想
未因為做到模擬身處火星而完結
12:59
When we dial this real world
to the virtual,
to the virtual,
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當我哋將現實世界虛擬化之後
13:02
we can do magical things.
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我哋做到好多神奇嘅嘢
我哋可以睇到肉眼睇唔到嘅光
13:05
We can see in invisible wavelengths
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13:07
or teleport to the top of a mountain.
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或者一瞬間上到某個山頂
13:10
Perhaps someday, we'll feel the minerals
in a rock just by touching it.
in a rock just by touching it.
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可能有朝一日
我哋可以觸摸到石頭入面嘅礦物質
13:17
We're taking the first steps.
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我哋宜家就係行緊第一步
13:19
But we want the whole world
to join us in taking the next,
to join us in taking the next,
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但我希望全世界可以
同我哋一齊踏出下一步
同我哋一齊踏出下一步
13:22
because this is not a journey for a few,
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因爲呢個唔剩係幾個人嘅事
而係關乎全人類
13:25
but for all of us.
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13:28
AK: Thank you Jeff, this was amazing.
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多謝 Jeff！太震撼啦！
多謝你同我哋傾計
13:30
Thank you so much for joining us
on the TED stage today.
on the TED stage today.
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（掌聲）
13:33
(Applause)
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Jeff Norris︰多謝你，Alex，拜拜
13:39
JN: Thank you Alex, bye bye.
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講者︰拜拜 Jeff
13:42
AK: Bye, Jeff.
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13:50
(Applause)
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（掌聲）
13:57
I dream about this future
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我每日都幻想緊呢一日會嚟
14:01
every single day.
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我嘅啟發都係喺祖先度嚟
14:04
I take inspiration from our ancestors.
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我哋嘅祖先都係圍埋一個部落
14:06
We used to live in tribes
where we interacted,
where we interacted,
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大家有交流、溝通，會一齊工作
14:09
communicated and worked together.
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14:12
We are all beginning to build technology
that will enable us to return
that will enable us to return
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而我哋，就喺度開發緊科技
令我哋可以回到
當初、成就今日我哋嘅時間
當初、成就今日我哋嘅時間
14:17
to the humanity that brought us
where we are today --
where we are today --
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我哋唔再活喺
14:21
technology that will let us stop living
inside this 2D world
inside this 2D world
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只有屏幕同像素嘅二維空間裏邊
14:26
of monitors and pixels,
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我哋會得到返三維空間嘅感覺
14:28
and let us start remembering
what it feels like
what it feels like
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14:33
to live in our 3D world.
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14:37
It's a phenomenal time to be human.
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呢個將會係人類重要嘅轉捩點
14:42
Thank you.
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多謝
（掌聲）
14:43
(Applause)
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Helen Walters︰
真係唔該曬。我有問題想問
真係唔該曬。我有問題想問
14:48
Helen Walters: Thanks so much.
I have some questions.
I have some questions.
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講者︰好
14:50
AK: OK.
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Helen Walters︰傳媒裏邊有啲問題
14:52
HW: So there's been
some talk in the press.
some talk in the press.
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我不妨直接問你，咁我哋有直接嘅答案
14:54
And I'll just ask you straight,
then we have a straight answer.
then we have a straight answer.
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我哋討論過示範裝置
同真正產品有咩唔同
同真正產品有咩唔同
14:57
There's been talk about the difference
between the demos
between the demos
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15:00
and the reality of the commercial product.
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15:02
Talk about this field of view issue.
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咁樣問題係
買咗呢件產品嘅人
係咪就可以有頭先嘅體驗？
係咪就可以有頭先嘅體驗？
15:04
Is this type of experience what someone
who buys the product will get?
who buys the product will get?
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15:08
AK: It's a great question,
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講者︰問得好
舊年開始
15:10
Or, said better, this is a question
we've been receiving
we've been receiving
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就有好多傳媒朋友
都有問過呢個問題
都有問過呢個問題
15:13
in the media for possibly the last year.
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如果你有睇返
15:16
If you do your research,
I haven't answered that question.
I haven't answered that question.
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你會發覺，我未曾答呢條問題
15:18
I've purposely ignored it,
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我係有心唔答
因爲我覺得問題本身係錯嘅
15:20
because ultimately,
it's the wrong question to ask.
it's the wrong question to ask.
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15:23
That's the equivalent of me showing
holograms to someone for the first time,
holograms to someone for the first time,
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就好似我第一次向某個人
展示全息圖之後
展示全息圖之後
嗰個人問我「你屋企電視有幾大」
15:29
and you then saying,
"What's the size of your television?"
"What's the size of your television?"
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15:33
The field of view for the product
is almost irrelevant.
is almost irrelevant.
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問題同件產品本身完全無關
我哋應該討論嘅係光嘅密度
15:36
What we should be talking about
is the density of lights,
is the density of lights,
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或者發出嚟嘅光度
15:40
or radiance, that shows up.
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即係話，物件嘅角分辨率係幾多
15:41
Better said, what the angular resolution
is of the things that you see.
is of the things that you see.
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咁樣諗嘅話…
15:45
So from that perspective, what you saw --
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你應該留意到攝影機裝咗全息眼鏡
15:47
you know, the camera
is wearing a HoloLens.
is wearing a HoloLens.
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15:49
So even if I wanted to cheat, I can't.
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所以我想出古惑都唔得
Helen Walters︰但攝影機嘅鏡頭
同你眼睛嘅晶體係唔同嘅
同你眼睛嘅晶體係唔同嘅
15:51
HW: But the camera has a different lens
on it than our eye. Right?
on it than our eye. Right?
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15:54
AK: The camera has a fish-eye lens on it.
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講者︰攝影機有魚眼鏡頭
攝影機嘅視角比人更加廣
15:57
It's seeing a much wider view
than the human eye is.
than the human eye is.
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所以如果你諗下攝影機睇到嘅光
16:00
So if you think about the points of light
that show up radially
that show up radially
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係會從四方八面射出嚟嘅話
16:05
from the vision of the camera,
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就會嚟到一個重點
16:06
which is the thing that matters:
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我可以喺一個特定空間裏面
得到幾多光點？
得到幾多光點？
16:08
how many points of light
can I get in a given volume?
can I get in a given volume?
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答案係我喺全息眼鏡得到嘅光點
同攝影機嘅一樣
同攝影機嘅一樣
16:11
That's the same as I get
on this HoloLens as I will on that one.
on this HoloLens as I will on that one.
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咁攝影機可以睇到
更加廣嘅角度，係咪？
更加廣嘅角度，係咪？
16:15
Now, this camera sees
a much wider view of the world, right?
a much wider view of the world, right?
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Helen Walters︰嚇死我！
16:20
HW: Jesus Christ!
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（笑聲）
16:21
(Laughter)
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講者︰佢頭先真係有出現，我已經講咗
16:22
AK: He did show up!
I told you he'd show up.
I told you he'd show up.
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16:24
Come this way.
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過嚟呢邊
16:25
(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
Helen Walters︰（粗口）！
16:27
HW: Oh, shit.
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16:29
AK: And there's holographic Jeff Norris.
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講者︰呢個就係 Jeff Norris 嘅全息圖
16:32
HW: I knew something was happening,
but I really wasn't sure what.
but I really wasn't sure what.
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Helen Walters︰我頭先知道有嘢發生
但我唔肯定係咩
16:35
AK: So in short: to be super crisp,
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講者︰簡單嚟講
你見到嘅攝影機影像
有人眼視角更加廣嘅視角
有人眼視角更加廣嘅視角
16:37
the camera that you see on the screen
has a wider field of view
has a wider field of view
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16:40
than the human eye.
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But the angular resolution
of the holograms that you see,
of the holograms that you see,
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但係，全息圖角分辨率
即係每個面積嘅物體光點都係一樣嘅
16:45
the points of light per unit of area,
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are actually the same.
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Helen Walters︰所以你… Jeff
我陣間會再同你講
我陣間會再同你講
16:50
HW: So you spent -- Jeff,
I'll get to you in a minute --
I'll get to you in a minute --
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so you spent a lot of time
mapping the stage --
mapping the stage --
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所以你用咗好多時間去圖像繪製個台？
16:58
AK: That's right.
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講者︰冇錯
Helen Walters︰咁請問
16:59
HW: So help me out here:
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如果我買咗個全息眼鏡，然後喺屋企用
17:00
if I buy a HoloLens and have it at home,
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I don't need to map my apartment, right?
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我唔需要特登圖像繪製
我間屋，係咪？
我間屋，係咪？
講者︰全息眼鏡用上空間繪製技術
17:04
AK: The HoloLens maps in real time
at about five frames per second,
at about five frames per second,
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圖像繪製速度大概係每秒五張
17:08
with this technology
that we call spatial mapping.
that we call spatial mapping.
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所以喺屋企，只要戴上全息眼鏡
17:11
So in your home, as soon as you put it on,
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全息圖就會出現
17:13
holograms will start showing up,
and you'll start placing them
and you'll start placing them
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然後你可以開始控制物件
全息眼鏡開始學習屋企環境
17:16
and they'll start learning your home.
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17:17
In a stage environment where we're trying
to get something on my head
to get something on my head
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至於台上面
雖然戴上全息眼鏡可以遠距離同人通訊
17:21
to communicate with something over there
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但當要用到可能拖冧會議嘅無線連接
17:23
with all of the wireless connectivity
that usually brings all conferences down,
that usually brings all conferences down,
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我哋就唔想冒險用無線連接
17:27
we don't take the risk
of trying to do this live.
of trying to do this live.
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所以我哋事先以每秒五張相嘅速度
圖像繪製咗成個舞臺
圖像繪製咗成個舞臺
17:32
So what we do is pre-map the stage
at five frames per second
at five frames per second
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with the same spatial-mapping technology
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用嘅就係空間繪製技術
同你屋企用到嘅一樣
17:37
that you'll use with the product at home,
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然之後就儲存資料
17:39
and then we store it,
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所以，萬一無線出現咗咩問題
17:40
so that when there's shenanigans
of wireless in an environment like this,
of wireless in an environment like this,
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between the camera's HoloLens
and the one on my head,
and the one on my head,
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攝影機同我頭上嘅全息眼鏡
都唔會有圖像消失
都唔會有圖像消失
17:46
we don't have things disappear.
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Because ultimately, the holograms
are coming from this HoloLens,
are coming from this HoloLens,
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因爲講到底，全息圖都係嚟自全息眼鏡
攝影機上面嘅只係用嚟播放畫面
17:51
and that one is just viewing the HoloLens.
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如果連接斷咗
17:53
So if I lose connectivity,
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屏幕上面嘅畫面就會消失
17:55
you would stop seeing
beautiful things on the screen.
beautiful things on the screen.
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Helen Walters︰太犀利啦。Jeff？
17:58
HW: And it was beautiful.
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18:00
Um ... Jeff?
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18:02
JN: Yes?
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Jeff Norris︰係
18:04
HW: Hi.
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Helen Walters︰喂
18:07
AK: I'll take a step back.
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講者︰我褪後先
Helen Walters︰咁 Jeff
你頭先喺火星
你頭先喺火星
18:08
HW: So Jeff, you were on Mars,
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同時你又喺 TED 台上
又喺對面街一間房
又喺對面街一間房
18:11
you were here, you were
in a room across the street.
in a room across the street.
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同我哋講下
18:14
Tell me more about the fact that,
with holograms, you have sight
with holograms, you have sight
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如果你全息圖裏面嘅嘢睇得到
18:18
but you don't have touch,
you don't have smell.
you don't have smell.
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但聞唔到，又摸唔到
咁全息圖係咪對科學真係有用架？
18:21
Is this scientifically useful now?
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18:24
That's my question for a hologram.
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呢點係我對全息圖嘅疑慮
18:27
JN: Thanks for the question.
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Jeff Norris︰多謝你嘅問題
我絕對相信呢種科技對科學係好有用
18:28
Absolutely, I believe
that these technologies
that these technologies
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are scientifically useful right now,
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18:33
and that's why we're using them
in multiple parts of our work at NASA.
in multiple parts of our work at NASA.
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亦都係點解我哋用全息眼鏡完成
部分美國太空總署嘅任務
部分美國太空總署嘅任務
全息眼鏡幫我哋探索火星
18:38
So we're using it to improve
the ways that we explore Mars.
the ways that we explore Mars.
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我哋嘅太空站嘅人員都會用到佢
18:41
We're also using it for our astronauts
on the space station.
on the space station.
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我哋甚至用緊佢設計下一代飛船
18:45
We're even using it now to design
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the next generation of our spacecraft.
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18:50
HW: Amazing. OK, Jeff, please go away.
Thank you very much.
Thank you very much.
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Helen Walters︰太勁啦
Jeff，你宜家可以收線啦，唔該曬！
18:53
(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
Alex，冇錯，真係犀利，唔該曬！
18:56
Alex, really, that was amazing.
Thank you so much.
Thank you so much.
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18:59
AK: Thank you.
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講者︰唔該你
Helen Walters︰唔該你
19:00
HW: Thank you. Thank you.
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(Applause)
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Alex Kipman - InventorWith his latest invention, HoloLens, Kinect creator Alex Kipman has opened a virtual holographic universe for users to explore -- and he may have changed the face of computing forever.
Why you should listen
In 2001, after graduating from RIT, Technical Fellow and inventor Alex Kipman joined Microsoft. In 2008 he created Kinect, the motion controller that revolutionized gaming and became the fastest-selling consumer device of all time, selling one million units on its first day of release.
Now Kipman has unveiled HoloLens, a jaw dropping device that turns everyday environments into interactive holographic worlds, mixing digital content right into our world. In addition to marking Microsoft's first foray into HMDs, HoloLens has the potential to turn computing as we know it inside out
Alex Kipman | Speaker | TED.com